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Ashoka's Wheel

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Ashoka's Wheel is an Appreciation of the qualities of India and its rich history which inform the 21st Century. This quality is not a belief or religion or a spirituality or ideology but the quality of the human spirit when best represented by the renaissance of India that could inform wisdom in a 21st Century India, and in that regard the true Ashoka's Wheel is the emergence of brilliant minds flowering from Indian centers of new media, education and technology development..
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  1. ProducerSweta Parmar

    Sweta Parmar

    08/04/2017
    FLAG OF INDIA (Tiranga)
    FLAG OF INDIA (Tiranga)Mahatma Gandhi said, β€˜A flag is a necessity for all nations. Millions have died for it. It is no doubt a kind of idolatry which would be a sin to destroy. For, a flag represents an Ideal.’ The national flag is the banner that imparts a nation its...
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    Sweta Parmar
    08/04/2017 #2 Sweta Parmar
    #1thank you
    siraj shaik
    08/04/2017 #1 siraj shaik
    Interesting
  2. Producerdebasish majumder
    FALLACY IN IDEOLOGY!
    FALLACY IN IDEOLOGY!Babri is a lovely place, a small town in the outskirts of rural India, where people from various religious beliefs live in absolute harmony and peace. It is a perfect example of unity in diversity, keeping the colorful fabric with an essence of...
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    Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
    06/04/2017 #17 Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
    Miscreants, religious leaders, politicians only trigger the undercurrents of anger.

    Have you ever wondered why there is no communal violence in Delhi or Hilly areas, forest outskirts or certain non transferable lands.

    Our society is greedy and desperate, it gets compounded by socio economic strains built by politicians as well as micromanaging proxies in society, to trigger all this for profit or power.

    We let the anger grow inside, this does not happen overnight, it is built up over centuries of mutual contempt and it is not hard to trigger such events for miscreants.

    People just need an excuse to kill each other, peace is often just a pretence while people struggle to survive.
    Susan Rooks
    06/04/2017 #16 Susan Rooks
    I cannot fathom the hatred that is spreading around the planet. This is a powerful and sad message from @debasish majumder.
    Susan Rooks
    06/04/2017 #15 Susan Rooks
    I can't fathom that kind of hatred, @debasish majumder! Just can't. What a horror for both the family and the community -- on both sides. I guess the hate must make some feel more powerful, more in control, less afraid. I just don't know, and I'm so sorry for anyone involved.

    Thank you for a powerful and sad message.
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    06/04/2017 #14 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Debasish, you do an excellent job of sending a message. I believe the most thought-provoking question for these times is WHY? It seems those that hate and spread hate don't know the WHY, nor do they care. Tunnel-visioned beliefs with no light at the end of the tunnel.
    Heenay Patel
    05/04/2017 #12 Heenay Patel
    Beautiful quote.
    Ali Anani
    05/04/2017 #11 Ali Anani
    This is a sad story in which a small pebble grew into a big stone and sent the river of peace into agony. Small acts may grow and diminish long-standing cooperation. Nature truly favors disorder and we help in accelerating and increasing the disorder.

    Thank you dear @debasish majumder for writing on a hugely important issue.
    Pascal Derrien
    05/04/2017 #10 Pascal Derrien
    @debasish majumder I am constantly puzzled by those who act in the name of.... whatever the thing is it is unlikely to change anytime soon as Robert rightly points out :-(
    Paul Walters
    05/04/2017 #9 Paul Walters
    @dabasish majumder a sobering read proving yet again we live in a complex society....anywhere
    Robert Cormack
    05/04/2017 #8 Robert Cormack
    It's a common theme of fables, @debasish majumder, that hatred and change occur without reason. Something happens, a small incident, and suddenly otherwise peaceful communities show fear and violence. It remains an area of great interest for historians, trying to understand how this happens. Whole civilizations have been destroyed, yet nothing seems to explain the root cause. Yet there must be a root causeβ€”just not one that carries through history like the events themselves. Interesting piece. Thanks for posting.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    05/04/2017 #7 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    You sir are a 21st Century Indian, addressing the India that live in the past and the systems of politics that has learned not one thing from divide and rule and the independence of India from British rule. The sectarian nature of the political fuse of extremism in India is the one thing that endangers what is otherwise has been a far more multicultural country than America can ever pretend to be.

    The danger of perverse politics is that it is rather easy to awaken the savage side of being and thus lose the human being. The culture I am from as already seen atrocities created in the name of politics and this is the orchestrated murder of thousands of Sikhs after the assassination of Indira Gandhi and at that point it is not a fallacy in ideology, it is a fallacy in this idea of being "Indian".

    This ideological fallacy is as always the work of the few that uses the emotional poison of fear to turn the many against each other. The good news is that India has resisted a grave inter-communal bloodbath and that says that the minority is not succeeding - but nationalism is poisoning the fabric of India as we speak and the extremes of populism in India are just as rife as they are in Europe and America.

    That is why it is important to find the Ashoka spirit of India and even here (the very symbols used in the Indian Flag and passport) are being questioned by extremists, and if they were ever to win, then the world loses. As it is, India does have an emerging middle class that is being educated with 21st Century skills, the politics of India needs leaders who will educate a nation to develop a 21st Century heart.
    Gert 🐝 Scholtz
    05/04/2017 #6 Gert 🐝 Scholtz
    @debasish majumder Your tales of life have all have a message to make us more aware and think about the world around us. Thank you for a great share Debasish.
    debasish majumder
    05/04/2017 #3 debasish majumder
    @Milos Djukic, @Melissa Hughes, @Melissa Hefferman, @Randy Keho, @Donna-Luisa Eversley, @Don 🐝 Kerr, @David B. Grinberg,@David Navarro López
  3. ProducerTausif Mundrawala
    Unfurl the Magnificence of India
    Unfurl the Magnificence of India(Image courtesy- www.123rf.com)Let him compose himself correctly in the pose of a Pranayam. Seated in the state of meditation on earth he loosely crossed his legs by resting both feet below the opposite thigh or knee. He rested his hands on the lap...
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    Tausif Mundrawala
    04/04/2017 #36 Tausif Mundrawala
    #34 There were many unexplored parts of India which I didn't explore in this buzz because it was not possible to do so. Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback, @Paul Walters
    Tausif Mundrawala
    04/04/2017 #35 Tausif Mundrawala
    #33 So nice of you to pen such wonderful words. Thanks once again my friend, @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Paul Walters
    04/04/2017 #34 Paul Walters
    @Tausif Mundrawala the more I go the more I am amazed ...guess thats why they call it , incredible india !!!
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    04/04/2017 #33 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    You have painted a beautiful picture of India, Tausif. Thank you for sharing.
    Tausif Mundrawala
    03/04/2017 #32 Tausif Mundrawala
    #31 You are invited to visit this wonderful country my friend, @Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador
    Tausif Mundrawala
    03/04/2017 #30 Tausif Mundrawala
    Thanks for reading and finding this buzz relevant my friend, @Breno Barreto
    Tausif Mundrawala
    03/04/2017 #29 Tausif Mundrawala
    Thank you so much my friend for liking and sharing it with our fellow bees. Thank you once again, @Donna-Luisa Eversley
    Tausif Mundrawala
    01/04/2017 #28 Tausif Mundrawala
    #23 What else would one ask for if someone fills our day with delight. I am elated. Thank you so much, @Jerry Fletcher
    Tausif Mundrawala
    01/04/2017 #27 Tausif Mundrawala
    #22 You are always welcome to visit this vibrant country. Your and Sir Ali Anani's willingness to visit India after reading this buzz have served its purpose. Thank you so much, Sir @Alan Culler
    Tausif Mundrawala
    01/04/2017 #26 Tausif Mundrawala
    #21 I would surely make it a point to pen the second part. I am glad that you requested. Thank you so much, @Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Tausif Mundrawala
    01/04/2017 #25 Tausif Mundrawala
    #20 This statement was a kind of felicitation in the form of a constructive feedback. You are always welcome, Sir @Ali Anani
    Tausif Mundrawala
    01/04/2017 #24 Tausif Mundrawala
    #19 This brief statement have spoken volumes, Sir. I am wondering what would be best way to thank you. But as of now am speechless.
    Jerry Fletcher
    01/04/2017 #23 Jerry Fletcher
    My saturday morning is now awash with wonder. Thank you Tausif!
    Alan Culler
    01/04/2017 #22 Alan Culler
    Wow! @Tausif Mundrawala
    So many rich images -I have always wanted to visit India and now even more
    Thanks you.
    Alan
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    01/04/2017 #21 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Good one Tauseef! Waiting for Turbanator II ;)
    Ali Anani
    01/04/2017 #20 Ali Anani
    Time to visit India dear @Tausif Mundrawala
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    01/04/2017 #19 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    A sophisticated tapestry that ignites my Ashoka DNA.
    Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
    01/04/2017 #18 Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
    #17 no apologies my friend. You cant overstuff it in one buzz.
    Tausif Mundrawala
    01/04/2017 #17 Tausif Mundrawala
    #15 I would definitely form a buzz on hill states. My sincere apologies for not penning about it but I'll surely will. Thank you so much for your support my friend, @Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
  4. Yogesh Sukal

    Yogesh Sukal

    11/03/2017
    Buzz of Gratitude from Nervi, Genova.
    Thanks to beBee - Yogesh Sukal
    Thanks to beBee - Yogesh Sukal
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    Yogesh Sukal
    15/03/2017 #17 Yogesh Sukal
    #15 Thank you so much @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher, indeed one side full moon and sunset on other
    and now I am really happy that I captured it to share the same with all 🐝s
    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    15/03/2017 #16 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    Beautiful sunset and the view is amazing @Yogesh Sukal Thank you for sharing this with us.
    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    15/03/2017 #15 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    Quite beautiful @Yogesh Sukal, the sunset was lovely. Thanks for sharing!
    Yogesh Sukal
    13/03/2017 #14 Yogesh Sukal
    #13 Thank you @John White, MBA Happy to do that...
    John White, MBA
    13/03/2017 #13 John White, MBA
    Wow, thank you so much for sharing this with us!
    Yogesh Sukal
    12/03/2017 #12 Yogesh Sukal
    Ciao @David B. Grinberg @Susan Botello Thank you so much for inspiration. what I can say,

    Its not only my thoughts who inspires me make such post,
    but actually its love with this beautiful ocean utmost... :)

    https://www.bebee.com/content/1300955/1173724#c1
    Susan Botello
    12/03/2017 #11 Susan Botello
    Beautiful views! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Ciao!
    David B. Grinberg
    12/03/2017 #10 David B. Grinberg
    I love this stunning video along with your astute commentary, Yogesh, on point as always. Grazie!
    Yogesh Sukal
    12/03/2017 #8 Yogesh Sukal
    #6 Aggree and Thank you @Pamela 🐝 Williams

    We are all influencers with our thoughts and experiences If admire the beauty of it in absolute way. And sharing it enhances its enrichment in cyclic way like addiction but amazing, beautiful, positive and enlightening.
    Pamela 🐝 Williams
    12/03/2017 #6 Pamela 🐝 Williams
    You're so right Yogesh; nature is the inspiration for our lives. A beautiful shot of the sunset in Genoa. Cherish every moment of your time. Be always vigilant, be in every moment. Don't let nature and life just pass by you. It is not what WAS inspired, but what inspired that is to be held on to, protected, and cherished. We all exist but a moment in time. In that moment let each of us absorb as much as we can of everything and everyone that passes through our lives.
    Yogesh Sukal
    12/03/2017 #5 Yogesh Sukal
    #4 Thank you @CityVP 🐝 Manjit Indeed, Knowledge is supreme power ans its gives you sense of wonder when you relate with nature and inspire thoughts adding to your current knowledge, making you wiser and wiser in autocatalytic way.

    And yes the idea was to try bebee live buzz.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    12/03/2017 #4 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    What this video shows me is more than just a support of beBee as an emergent platform for how we engage contribution to the 21st Century, it is also showing me that you are capturing your relationship with Genoa, which in itself means that you are making the most of your "university" education, in the moment you are engaging it.

    I have a section at beBee where I had planned to reflect on Ashoka's Wheel and this particular hive is my personal exploration into the mindset and lives of talent emerging from India and the transformation of India towards embracing parts of the 21st Century economy (and realizing also that this part of India is only a microcosm of that country in all its good and bad, and I have actually not paid too much attention to that hive.

    One thing I would encourage you to do is to get involved with Italian bee's because you are also engaged in a purely Italian experience in that city and thus the point in the video about Christopher Columbus becomes a voyage of discovery in itself and one which you can spiritually embrace, and that is something that expands your beBee experience, but above all in terms of Ashoka's Wheel, yours is a part of the story of the advanced side of the emerging nation of India also. What you are engaged in is what I truly would describe as a "UNIVERSITY" education. Well done.
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    12/03/2017 #2 Javier 🐝 beBee
    Very nice @Yogesh Sukal ! Keep buzzing!
  5. ProducerCityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Return to the Foothills of Himalayas
    Return to the Foothills of HimalayasThree happy wanderers walked into beBee today and unwittingly walked straight into my personal learning journey.Β  There was Ranjeet, Rinki and Amrinder, three people who work in a town I had never heard of before, and the only geographical reference...
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    Dean Owen
    11/02/2017 #1 Dean Owen
    Wow, it is not too far from New Delhi. I've done the New Delhi to Jaipur train ride and it is about the same distance (about 5 hours). I would love to approach the Himalayas from that side. Maybe one day when I set up a new tech company and need some talent!
  6. CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Venkataraman Ramachandran is someone I have seen grow up from a student to a young man running his business in India. Originally he wrote a blog called Venkenisis. It has been great watching his growth as an individual for the best part 12 years+ His latest post is another ode to his mentor - a professor in India who also served as an inspiration to a large body of other Indian students. Here is Venky talking about mentoring and in the comments other people from India that inspire him.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    The Story of my mentor who messed up my life
    www.linkedin.com It was myΒ first day in B2B Marketing Class.Β He walked inside carryingΒ two glasses of hot water, bringing an air of intrigue to the noisy classroom...
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  7. CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Indian National Anthem on the day @🐝 Fatima G. Williams celebrated India's 68th Anniversary in UAE. as portrayed as in the Hollywood hit movie "Kabhi Kushi Kabhie Gham"

    Fatima's Link is here
    https://www.bebee.com/content/1175129/1077328
    Indian National Anthem Scene from Kabhi Kushi Kabhie Gham.wmv
    Indian National Anthem Scene from Kabhi Kushi Kabhie Gham.wmv Copyright of EMI Records UK Limited, The Orchard Music and Sony Music India http://www.sonymusic.com/ and Yash Raj Films and Dharma Productions...
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    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    27/01/2017 #1 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    This is a very beautiful scene. Loved it Thank you @CityVP 🐝 Manjit
  8. 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    Today the world's tallest building the Burj Khalifa lit up with the Indian Nation Flag to commemorate the 68th Republic Day of India. Felt proud to be a part of the celebration πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€— Thank you UAE πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€— 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
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    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    27/01/2017 #13 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    #12 The Burj Khalifa is gorgeous LisaπŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€— I'm super tired after working the whole day ☺☺ but It was worth a Visit☺☺
    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    27/01/2017 #11 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    Thank you everyone.πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—
    Ali Anani
    27/01/2017 #10 Ali Anani
    Sheer beauty dear @🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    Claire L Cardwell
    27/01/2017 #9 Claire L Cardwell
    This looks fantastic!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    27/01/2017 #8 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    I love how beBee enables me to be a global citizen in ways I could never even imagine.

    What a gorgeous person sharing a momentous occasion!
    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    26/01/2017 #7 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    The Indian flag is the first flag to be displayed after the country's own national UAE flag. Hence the excitement as this goes down in History πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—
    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    26/01/2017 #6 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    #5 The UAE Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed Bin Zayed of Abu Dhabi was the guest of honor to India for it's Republic day celebrations. He had visited India on business ties as well so in honour of this strong growing relationship. This was a sweet gesture by UAE.
    Dean Owen
    26/01/2017 #5 Dean Owen
    Is this in appreciation of the many Indian migrant workers who are helping transform Dubai into a Middle Eastern Singapore? Or do they do this for numerous countries?
    🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    26/01/2017 #4 🐝 Fatima G. Williams
    Ya it felt great too. Had good fun with some Indian music being played.
    Preston 🐝 Vander Ven
    26/01/2017 #3 Preston 🐝 Vander Ven
    That's looks great.
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    26/01/2017 #1 Javier 🐝 beBee
    Nice !
  9. CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Hyderbad interests me in the way that it has attracted new technology companies and become an emerging hub for Indian startups. CNN provide a 3 minute video why they think Hyderbad is evolving in these new digital frontiers with their piece about "How this Indian city is attracting startups" by Melissa Hassett
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    How this Indian city is attracting startups
    money.cnn.com Makuta VFX is a boutique animation company behind the Indian...
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    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    04/12/2016 #2 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #1 Hydrabad is interesting both as a center that is attracting startups but also the challenges facing it due to effects of growth, so it can call itself a smart city but the challenge is ensuring it remains a livable city. The caveat as a livable city is that in the Indian context it is ranked high, but in the global context it has challenges to overcome http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hyderabad-the-most-liveable-city-in-india-survey/article8273978.ece so I take more stock in looking at this slideshare user's perspective http://www.slideshare.net/maitreyiy/critical-analysis-of-the-planning-scenario-in-hyderabad-city

    China and India now have burgeoning middle class populations full of highly energetic, self-driven and purposeful young people both due to longer-term policies. Undercutting those policies are the cultural quirks such as guanxi in China and jugaad in India - but at least China is in a position to have a better handle on managing endemic macro problems like corruption and over-regulation. The irony here being that appropriate regulation is required for fighting corruption and common sense is required in quirky cultural practices.

    I also need to learn how to spell Hyderabad :-)
    Dean Owen
    04/12/2016 #1 Dean Owen
    What initially impressed me when I first came to China was how the population were so driven. I see that in India too. The drive to succeed is so strong for the current generation, short term prospects can only be good. The up and coming generations will be spoilt and have less appreciation for money. I have never been to Hyderabad, but must make a note next time to check out the startup scene (and to try the Biriani!)
  10. Malini Chaudhri  Ph.D
    Linkedin Publishing
    www.linkedin.com
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    Malini Chaudhri  Ph.D
    28/11/2016 #2 Malini Chaudhri Ph.D
    Hello Sir.
    Thank you for your interest in my page.
    I have associated with Living Masters, and follow their teachings.
    I also have a study plan ongoing, towards an essential book on Energetics, in relation to spas, Origin and Dharma
    Saints and mystics are keen healers. Tibet has a lot to offer in alternative medicine and spa.
    I will join your hives if I can, and look forward to your news
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    27/11/2016 #1 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Hi Malini, the link above is an edit link (i.e. it has edit in the URL hence it opens up a blank document. I have found your pulse article https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-heritage-dharma-malini-chaudhri-ph-d-l-ac- about Indian Heritage and Dharma.

    I welcome your connection here at beBee and you add to the strength of intelligence emerging out of India and it is an area that I have sought to delve into more here at beBee but I need to have more time in order to develop this part of my learning journey, so currently it is on hold or at least when I finally get around to it.

    The hives I have created are for my own learning journey, so they differ in purpose to what beBee hopes hives do in terms of personal and professional interest or affinity informing each other to produce a more well rounded picture of a person. The two hives that are time bound right now are

    Public Library
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-heritage-dharma-malini-chaudhri-ph-d-l-ac-

    Ashoka's Wheel
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-heritage-dharma-malini-chaudhri-ph-d-l-ac-

    It is the latter where my interests will definitely cross with some of what you are discussing in terms of India, though rather than heritage or legacy - I am interested in what means to be Indian in the 21st Century utilizing India's history as a symbol to that.
  11. ProducerCityVP 🐝 Manjit
    India Doubles its Olympics Haul
    India Doubles its Olympics HaulThe nation that has the 2nd largest population in the world tonight doubled its medal count, but unfortunately to 2. That means that they have one more medal than Puerto Rico, but Puerto Rico has one more gold than India.Β  Usain Bolt gained 9 Golds...
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    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #26 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #21 The fact that India is not playing in the big time is a combination of in-built systemic limitation and no path for its brightest leaders to get through an established order of politicians who have learned how to play the game and stifle or prevent progress. If the system is broken at the core, it is not going to produce at the edges. The article points to the obvious things any of us can see at first glance - the writer is looking at outcomes and not root causes going back 70 years.

    There has been moments of potential breakthrough at the State level, such as the Kerela model, which did two things absolutely right but failed on a huge third piece. The two things they did right were to invest in education and health - and that was applauded by Oxfam in 2008 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11698148 but there was a huge missing piece that made what they did right into a nightmare - and that was not having the jobs for the upwardly mobile citizens - so much so that people in Kerela had to take jobs overseas. The act of taking jobs overseas led to families being split which led to dysfunction in households - the net result of which was an increase in the suicide rate http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/sunday-times/deep-focus/In-Kerala-suicide-runs-in-the-entire-family/articleshow/7485596.cms

    Yet one must congratulate the state government of Kerela for trying to make a difference, even if the initiative led to unintended consequences. The weakness of the Indian system is that it has democracy when it is better for it to be a 2 party country. With so many parties the entire democratic system of India is based on making political calculations and deals. Kind of ironic but in 1948 when it got independence, its leaders lacked vision except for one area of development, which was Nehru's dream to focus on developing technological capability - finally realized through the 1961 iniatitive for IIT's.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #25 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #24 Ultimately the Pierre de Coubertin Medal represents the ultimate spirit of the Olympics as we would like to think the Olympics to be. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11698148

    The reality of the Olympics is that it is a huge commercial enterprise and if beBee scales to monumental levels, that is the real marker of playing in the big time, when beBee can reach the level of an Olympic sponsor.
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    20/08/2016 #24 Javier 🐝 beBee
    #21 @Dean Owen, very interesting. In fact I am going to post an article about the real countries winners of Olympic games based on population. Obviously in terms of size, the US always win, but not in terms of quality ( metals versus population)
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    20/08/2016 #22 Javier 🐝 beBee
    #19 @CityVP 🐝 Manjit we all also wish the best to Catalonia because they are Spaniards :).. All the best!
    Dean Owen
    20/08/2016 #21 Dean Owen
    I just read this piece in the Economic Times. Some interesting comments below the piece. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/sports/why-india-wins-only-a-few-olympic-medals/articleshow/53785641.cms
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #19 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #16 Dear @Mamen 🐝 Delgado of course, the voice of the majority should be respected, but that will never stop me wishing the best to the people of Catalonia, and the people of Scotland and the people of Quebec - that no well their individual ruling governments succeed in keeping their unions together, that their right to self-determination is one day realized. Especially Scotland because Catalonia and Quebec don't have a Mel Gibson that filmed Braveheart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yis-VeOA6QM In that regard if self-determination is the will of the people, then let it be so - whether that be Catalonia, Scotland, Quebec, Hawaii, Kashmir or where-ever bloodshed free revolution is possible and the democracy of a vote is honoured as a 21st Century value.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #18 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #17 Dear Pamela, the younger generation has created change, but they have created change in the area of technology and not in the area of politics. IMHO the systemic design failure was baked in back in 1948 by simply stepping into the instruments of governance created by the British. It is a system that suits a British sensibility and not an Indian way and Nehru was the first Indian leader who led as an Indian but was born of a British sensibility. The Indian way is naturally chaotic, that is why Alexander the Great stumbled when he got exasperated trying to bring India to order. The British figured that out through Divide and Rule.

    Through Nehru's dynasty the instruments of the British Raj are now the instruments of the Indian political elite. When the opportunity came to Prime Minister Modi to create revolutionary action, he was given the classified documents on the life of Subhash Chandra Bose, and came to the conclusion that releasing that information would first risk civil unrest and secondly embarrass a global Indian partner.

    Bose's gamble was to think that the enemy of my enemy is my friend and so took his Azad Hind army and offered to fight the British in alliance with Hitlers Germany. It is the creation of the Azad Hind army and not the hunger strikes of Gandhi that made the British realize that their time was up. The nationalism of Modi adds a new chink and distraction to revolutionizing the Indian political system. The purpose of Ashoka's Wheel here is not to promulgate my views of India, but to explore my own learning because I am exploring fundamentally my own roots here - and so I explore what is flowing from my heart versus a political view.
    Pamela 🐝 Williams
    20/08/2016 #17 Pamela 🐝 Williams
    @CityVP 🐝 Manjit, I have worked with several India nationals over the last few years, several of them I keep in contact with via Facebook or LinkedIn. This is what I came to realize about these visitors to America; they love their home country but like you they see so much corruption in the government and so much negative associations with business going 'offshore' from the U.S. it affects them. One young man told me he would love to go home and be with his family but he knows that his opportunities are here. He is also in love with a young woman in his country but their marriage was (the last time we talked) was in doubt because of the class system that is still existent. Despite his successful professional endeavors her family still had doubts. I saw the sadness in him. It must be the younger generations that must push past and change the cultural and political so that the national pride that produces the support of elite athletes spreads through the heats of all Indians.
    Mamen 🐝 Delgado
    20/08/2016 #16 Mamen 🐝 Delgado
    #15 My dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit, I suppose you mean you hope one day that "the Catalans that want the independence" achieve their independence. That's at least what I hope. Nowadays they are not more than half population in Catalonia as we could see in the last elections. ;)
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #15 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #12 Dear Mamen and do not forget that as a lifetime supporter of Tottenham Hotspurs football club, it is Real Madrid who end up taking our best players, so for sure I would love to see Spain focus on other things than football :-)

    When it comes to Barcelona - I am sorry to say to all those people at BeBee who are Madrid based - but I support the idea of Catalonia and hope one day that the Catalans achieve their independence. In this regard I wish to celebrate Mireia Belmonte http://www.catalannewsagency.com/sports/item/catalan-swimmer-mireia-belmonte-brings-first-gold-for-spain-at-rio-olympics

    I also support the idea of a modern India that is emerging as a 21st Century power but which is hindered by an Imperial system that should be more like a Republic like the United States of America, rather than a nation that left the infrastructure of the British Raj intact - but as a technology movement that can potentially revolutionize that infrastructure. Sorry I can't help thinking big :-)
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #14 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #13 Dear Gert the 2nd largest democracy in the world is the United States of America, the largest democracy in the world is India. The size of the emerging middle class of India is the size of the ENTIRE population of the United States. What I am saying is that the failure of the Indian Olympic Committee is fully reflective of the failure of the Indian political system and its systemic corruption. Moreover this political system is simply the inheritance of the British Raj and not a transformation of independence. When the Americans threw the British out they thought carefully what their new system of governance shall be and their Declaration of Independence was an Declaration of Independence.

    The decay of the Indian Railway System is not just a failure of investment, it is a failure of imagination - tell me what you see in the picture of the BBC report about India's railway system http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28156439 I see a huge silver medal, where the gold medal metaphorically speaking is still the legacy of the Britsh Raj. Praveen see's a silver medal of national pride, but I see a silver lining for national transformation. Praveen see's himself as a proud Indian, but I see myself as an Indian born exiled abroad, no different to the whitewash of the history and tragic story of Subhas Chandra Bose. The corruption of India begins with the delusional and apathetic deference to a broken system of governance which in my mind ghostly symbols of the British Raj. That India celebrates like Fiji and Puerto Rico and not the largest democracy in the world is the point of this buzz.
    Gert 🐝 Scholtz
    20/08/2016 #13 Gert 🐝 Scholtz
    @CityVP 🐝 Manjit Great sporting nations and are so largely because of governmental and institutional support for sport. Infrastructure, training facilities, incentives and access to coaching and international events all contribute to that nations' sporting prowess. What you say of India applies to many countries - and the converse as well. Great Buzz Manjit.
    Mamen 🐝 Delgado
    20/08/2016 #12 Mamen 🐝 Delgado
    Completely agree @CityVP 🐝 Manjit, here in Spain the sports media give practically all relevance to football, more importance to the new hair cut a player than to global successes of any other sports called "minority". Now during the Olympic Games they are giving voice to all sports, but it is a blip and when the Games finish the media will return to the dictatorship of football (and I say this being a great fan of football, but not only).
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #11 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #8 Dear Mamen, and that is why I joked that the Spanish gold medalist must surely wish she was Indian, because the Silver medalist is going to be treated like superstar when she gets back to India, especially since there is a huge emerging middle class of young people that do have prosperity but do want Indians to engage in globally recognized achievement. It is however a bit delusional to celebrate a Silver medal in a manner that one would expect Usain Bolt to be celebrated and it is this lack of proportionality which I am addressing - until Indians realize the reason they can't celebrate more is because they have an archaic model of governance that continues to bleed corruption and self-interest. I would love Carolina Marin of Spain to visit India so she could at least explain to the taxi driver, that she was the one who won the Gold.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #10 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #6 The problem of Indian government is that it is not Indian, it is a homage to the system of British rule left after Independence in 1948. One cannot end the British Raj and then do very little to modify the system of governance so it suits the Indian psyche.

    Where there has been modifications India has moved into the 21st Century and that is the jewel of its technology mandate, that arose with the formation of IIT's - it was the brilliance of the governance framework - i.e. The Institutes of Technology Act 1961 that was the catalyst to create autonomous institutes of higher public education. What it could do in governance arrangements that now empowers thousands of world leading technologists, it has never done with its own sacred cow of government. For a country which calls itself a Republic, why has it kept the political systems of the British Raj? Even America spent time framing its governance for a true Declaration of Independence, that is why India today needs (and they do exist) dynamic young leaders - and not more leaders like Modi, who at one time could not travel to the United States http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303380004579520041301275638 So long as India keeps the ghost of the British Raj as its constitution, the brilliant capability it can unleash will remain mollycoddled by imperial and corrupt politicians.

    Commercially it's media has the same mechanisms as America, the rise of Hollywood and Edward Bernays in PR all contributed to the commercial America we know now and the rise of globalization and Bollywood is creating a commercial India with a middle class that rivals the entire population of the United States (about 300 million+ strong) That middle class is where the new generation of Indian leaders can emerge but they require an imagination and a will to transform the existing system of governance, which today is a multi-party mess of chaos.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    20/08/2016 #9 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    All the more worthy of praise are these twin achievements, considering that from such ''chaos'' has sprung such brilliant talent and ability! The Girl Child is once again cherished...Womanity is acknowledged. I heard someone say the other day that the contingent accompanying our Rio contestant has three radiologists in it. I was nonplussed! Radiologists? Why? What for? How did they get in? We know how dubious the selections can be and how much red tape needs to be cut through, but talent destined to shine, will shine through. Haven't we had geniuses like Dhyan Chand ''The Wizard'' (Gold in Field Hockey in 1928.32,36...Hitler was so impressed by him that he even offered him a Colonel's post in his army apparently...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp5BIHbZJwU ) Milkha Singh, and many many more, including a host of those who never go the opportunities they deserved so well to compete on a global arena. We have heard many tales of national champions in less popular national sports reduced to abject poverty and suffering in later years. Progress in sports and other non-industrial/corporate activities is possible only when the government recognises them enough (not just cricket where we have been world champions many a time, beating the best black in blue ;) and engages the RIGHT KIND of people to manage these portfolios down to the granularities. There is hope, thanks to these superwomen!
    Mamen 🐝 Delgado
    20/08/2016 #8 Mamen 🐝 Delgado
    Just yesterday watching the badminton final at home we were discussing about how strange it is that India, a country with such population, have so few elite athletes. Everything you explain in your article gives to PV Shindu much merit. Enjoy it!!
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    20/08/2016 #7 Javier 🐝 beBee
    Great article and congratulations to the Indian and Spanish women for reaching the final! I will write an article about the results of countries on Olympics games after they are finished. Badminton is a very important sport in Asia and it is the first time that a "outsider" wins. Congratulations again to Carolina Marin!
    Dean Owen
    20/08/2016 #6 Dean Owen
    #4 #4 Harsh words, but true. Back when people started using BRIC, I knew China was different. China has Five Year Plans which are not going to be reversed due to changing administrations every 4 years. They covered infrastructure, education, urbanization, you name it. India lacked, and still lacks critical infrastructure. 2008 marked China's debut onto the world stage with the Beijing Olympics and Shanghai Expo. They made sure of it and topped the medals list in Gold medals. When I came to China in 2008 the first thing I noticed was that people are driven. I see that with the Indian people too, but the people need the support of govt and that was the difference. Great comments CityVP Manjit.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    20/08/2016 #4 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #1 #1 Part 2 of 2 : Such a dysfunctional system coupled with rudimentary training facilities lead to a focus on short-term thinking and then the small c of Culture can be introduced because that induces subservience rather than excellence. Parents want to know how much money their kids will make and yes there are those who think non-sports careers are the way to go, so that has an effect also.

    If an athlete could rely that basic rules can be followed, that will at least create the foundation of structure to aid the development process. These are ruthless conditions in a country that also can have a ruthless climate.

    Now China - with its one party state, unlike India with its 6 recognized national parties and a whole host unrecognized parties, has mowed through its corruption problems, identified its high potentials, developed sports coaching systems, built first-class facilities and goes into the Olympic games with expectations of gold - and the price for 2nd is massive sense of shame. In this regard the shambolic Indian system is less ruthless - but at least with Chinese athletes they have their moment in the sun - and ultimately China realizes the geopolitical value of Sports. Instead of calling China Chinese and India Indian - China should be called the Land of Order, and India called the Land of Chaos.
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