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Basic Instincts

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Why do we do the things the way we do them?
Do we obey to immutable patterns, out of our control, or do we really have freewill to choose?
  1. ProducerDavid Navarro López
    Car Washing with Papa
    Car Washing with PapaEvery time I wash my car, it comes to my mind when my father asked me to help him washing the family’s car. It was always a fun moment to make something useful side by side with him. From him, I learned many things, as well as painting,...


    Katja Bader
    01/12/2016 #4 Katja Bader
    Very true! It makes me sad seeing that kids are learning more from the internet than from their parents, teachers, other kids etc. It seems that the human cooperation is getting lost. It´s our duty as parents and human beings to avert this.
    Ali Anani
    01/12/2016 #3 Ali Anani
    You are an excellent observer dear @David Navarro López. Yes, comparing what your father did with what you witnessed is a terrific example of my we have less talented people. Fathers tend to encourage distractions, lack of focus and the consequences are they buy solutions instead of training their kids to work with their minds and hands. Where are we heading to, I don't know.
    Dean Owen
    01/12/2016 #2 Dean Owen
    Like you I have fond memories of washing my father's car. All lost now as someone washes my car every night for $30 a month (benefits of living in China). Nice buzz and a timely reminder to buy my daughter a hose in the near future!
    Mohammed A. Jawad
    01/12/2016 #1 Mohammed A. Jawad
    Parents ought to play a greater role towards their children. ..sometimes, they have to mingle with them like kids, sometimes, like mentors, they need to teach them. After all, with right tutelage we parents have to mold our children with right manners.
  2. ProducerAli Anani

    Ali Anani

    Iteration of Ideas
    Iteration of IdeasOur world is full of surprises. The expected and simple interactions may lead to complex behaviors with unpredictability that surpasses our imagination. The behavior of many systems shows this "anomalies". They include the weather, the...


    Steve Brady
    02/12/2016 #41 Steve Brady
    #40 Dear Ali, thank you for your encouraging reply. Your thoughtful posts have certainly been a catalyst for fascinating discussion. If I may also encourage you: the way you genuinely interact with commenters on your posts is a blessing. You are gifted with the ability to articulate wisdom and at the same time engage with your readers to search for further wisdom.
    Ali Anani
    01/12/2016 #40 Ali Anani
    #39 @Steve Brady- amazing comment with its potential and practical examples.Led it and read it few times. Each time I ponder on this part "From my growing understanding of Fractal Perspectives it is from this state that we can see beautiful symmetries emerge and iterated patterns of coherent relationships emerge". Well, I see the patterns emerging when I read a comment by you. SOon, I am responding in a buzz to your very great comment.
    While reading this comment you really got me curious to read your comment on my following buzz. I feel you have so much to add:
    Steve Brady
    01/12/2016 #39 Steve Brady
    #33 Thank you, @Ali Anani. I too remain curious, as a life-long learner from published works, but also the "textbooks" of human beings in inter-relatedness. When I was trained in Restorative Justice, we were urged to interview thoroughly so as to aim for "no surprises". Thorough empathic conversations with affected parties is so often therapeutic in themselves, however, I am still amazed that every "circle" we formed in order to facilitate meetings between stakeholders, seemed full of potentialities...ranging from complex abreactions and fearful responses to wonderful unscripted reconciliations. One important key for me is that whenever people are gathered in community, even a private Restorative Justice meeting, is an open system, rather than a closed one. A second key that is important for me is to not fear "chaos". No one wants mayhem of course, but as I learned from reading "A Different Drum" by the late Dr M. Scot Peck, true community can emerge from the "chaos" of people feeling safe enough to lay down their facades and pretences, and be "real". From my growing understanding of Fractal Perspectives it is from this state that we can see beautiful symmetries emerge and iterated patterns of coherent relationships emerge. The lesson for me is to encourage potentialities, to be open and resist habitual control. Instead, be more like a true scientist, an explorer of truth. Herein lies the essence of respectful and powerful peace making.
    David Navarro López
    30/11/2016 #38 Anonymous
    @Katja Bader have a look here. Your point of view is requested
    Ali Anani
    30/11/2016 #37 Ali Anani
    #35 Your snowball example is simply genius. I know you wrote this comment partly from your own experiences, dear @David Navarro López. What a lovely illustration this is! Yes, we have nor control on the path of the snowball. es, we may have no control over the stones that may change the trajectory of the snowball, but we may always try again. Like you said, an oak tree doesn't produce pears. I feel you may extend this to a great buzz. You added a new meannig o the behavior of snowballs. We always need a fresh start.
    Ali Anani
    30/11/2016 #36 Ali Anani
    #34 #34 Dear @David Navarro López- this is a gem and your observation struck me too to the bones "One thought it shocked me to the bones, is that the day I stopped looking for explanations, is the day I started understanding life". SOmetimes we get over-stressed trying to understand and by doing that we are actually reducing our ability to understand. When things become too complex to understand, this is the time to relax and only then we may think of new approaches, new ideas and new thinking. There are so many things in life that we still don't understand. That is why I introduced the term "passionate curiosity".
    David Navarro López
    30/11/2016 #35 Anonymous
    #32 Part 2 But one thing was clear to me. (Again, a Spanish saying) You can not expect pears from an oak. So in order to promote the best scenario for both bees and hives, the only way I have found which is always certain, is to influence every action and ideas coming out with the highest human values. Here is, and only here, where we can have a part of control and responsibility about how things are going to develope, but just at the initial stage. You love analogies, and I like to look at it as a snow ball rolling down a hill. One can't know how it's going to end, but if one makes a big ball of "positive snow" and throws it aiming it in the right direction, it is more than probable it will end as you wished. Or maybe not. And if not, we can not run down to the hill and try to put away the stones that modified the trajectory of the ball. The ball will go faster, and stones are countless. Much better, make a new ball and aim it differently. If you are lucky, you will succeed. If not, better keeping "enhancing the ball" (which is under your direct control) rather than loosing the time asking why, as we can't be in two places at the same time.
    David Navarro López
    30/11/2016 #34 Anonymous
    #32 Part 1 Dear Ali, you know I am very interested in human behaviour, and I have been digging on it in any possible way a long time. One thought it shocked me to the bones, is that the day I stopped looking for explanations, is the day I started understanding life. Because as you are pointing out, "Humans interact and ideas may become heavily populated and their growth may be limited by our capacity to fully comprehend them" The feedback to our actions (or ideas), the more reach they achieve, the more complex they become. Being a practical man as I am, and having in mind the mentioned interacting between bees and hives, I switched from trying to understand the process, to trying to provoke the process in a trend it suited the mutual benefit fo bees and hives, due to the unavoidable fact that our energies and capabilitiy of comprehension are far too limited to reveal the ultimate consequences that feedback might cause modeling and transforming the original inception of it.
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #33 Ali Anani
    #22 9 @Steve Brady- your comment is a source of huge curiosity for me to find more from your experience ".what a thought provoking post. I have found many times that a simple, single social interaction, personal or virtual, can lead to pleasing complexities". Your examples shall be mind-provoking and I sincerely hope you share dew of them with us.
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #32 Ali Anani
    #31 You are good for the bee and the hive my friend @David Navarro López. I am expecting a great comment from you
    David Navarro López
    29/11/2016 #31 Anonymous
    Only as an advance of a longer comment i will do later to your challenging buzz, (you know i like to ruminate) a Spanish saying says, what is good for the bee, is good for the hive, and what is good for the hive, is good for the bee.
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #30 Ali Anani
    #25 Always I am motivated by your comments @David B. Grinberg- thank you
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #29 Ali Anani
    #20 Lovely example @Deb🐝 Lange. The population equation sows when we may observe a linear growth. Yes, it is when the this rate goes high that we experience the complexity we observe.
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #28 Ali Anani
    #18 Much obliged to your "oxygenated-comment" dear @debasish majumder
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #27 Ali Anani
    #17 @Mohammed Sultan- it is simple rules that generate complexity. Changing the rate of population growth in the simple population equation led to complexity. We don't plan for it because it is an emerging one.
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #26 Ali Anani
    #16 Thank you dearly @Tausif Mundrawala
    David B. Grinberg
    29/11/2016 #25 David B. Grinberg
    Ali, your deep thinking and intellect never cease to amaze. Thanks for more brilliant buzz!
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    29/11/2016 #24 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #23 Birthcontrol is cop out option in my opinion when the human is perfectly capable of exercising self discipline and i think a reworking of sex education focusing on why one should be selective from a deer understanding the effects could be more effective and reduce a lot of other issues .

    I think of it as a modified. ttantra teaching n the schools covering the base concepts of why you respect the act no matter how pleasurable it is as something you do with responsibility and respect for yourself and your partner. All birth control does is allow us to continue to give in just because we can and it weakens self discipline in other areas of life.
    Mohammed Sultan
    29/11/2016 #23 Mohammed Sultan
    #19 By birth control I mean putting a strategy aiming at raising per capita income with the same available resources and so too bettering people's health ,educational and job opportunities.I mean also giving people more chance to participate in public life.Simplicity is not also built on being alone ,isolating yourself from the current of events.If you have a vision and continuous and self-monitoring then you will realize that the simple formula about human development would be Sharing=Caring.
    Steve Brady
    29/11/2016 #22 Steve Brady
    Wow @Ali Anani...what a thought provoking post. I have found many times that a simple, single social interaction, personal or virtual, can lead to pleasing complexities. I am a Restorative Practices and legal reform advocate. The human behavioural equation you include is very helpful. "Scripted" approaches that ignore or even suppress potentialities very often stifle the rich and deep Justice and healing that is possible between people and in communities.
  3. ProducerDavid Navarro López
    Basic Instincts: The hive
    Basic Instincts: The hiveI have always been interested on understanding the human behaviour. Why do we do the things the way we do them? Is it that we are “programmed”, that the “bad boys” will always be bad? Do we obey to immutable patterns, out of our control,...


    Marta García Quijada
    10/10/2016 #9 Marta García Quijada
    I think that education and all that you see and learn the first years of life will build the adult you will be, so people have to be very careful to teach their children in this period.It' s the basis to give you "tools" to manage future experiences and choices. And humans only use the 10% of brain... Can you imagine if we use the other 90%? Good buzz!
    DILMA BALBI -📃 Engenharia&gestão
    10/10/2016 #8 DILMA BALBI -📃 Engenharia&gestão
    #7 thanks for your comment. My pleasure to read your posts. Frequently I dig into my inner thoughts after reading then.
    David Navarro López
    10/10/2016 #7 Anonymous
    #6 I will be honored if you read and comment the next posts. In fact, I am already on it, but it will take some time. It will speak about love, on which I know you have a lot to say.
    Above all, I agree that fear and hope walk together. When you achieve to win to fears with hope, this is sometimes called bravery.
    And the world belongs to the braves.
    DILMA BALBI -📃 Engenharia&gestão
    10/10/2016 #6 DILMA BALBI -📃 Engenharia&gestão
    Fear and hope walk together hand by hand.I wondered if we can pick just one of then.Thanks for sharing this stuff to think...If you dont mind I "ll follow the next posts
    Ali Anani
    09/10/2016 #5 Ali Anani
    #4 HOPE is another of the human and basic factors to be considered in future posts....this is worthy my friend David
    David Navarro López
    09/10/2016 #4 Anonymous
    #3 I really appreciate your wisdom, Dear Ali, when pointing out the difference between complicated and complex. Both in English and Spanish language have the same difference between them. As in the Spanish definition, Complex is "a system composed of several interconnected or interwoven parts whose links between them contain additional information and hidden from the observer. As a result of interactions between elements, new properties that can not be explained from the properties of individual elements emerge. These properties are called emergent properties."
    And this is precisely what the human mind is: Complex, due to its emergent properties which are completely random and therefore, impossible to establish a pattern.
    We can only try to "bombard" ourselves with the things which are proven to be "good", and hope somehow that a "good result" comes out.
    By the way, I see now that HOPE is another of the human and basic factors to be considered in future posts. You can only find it in humans, as is a factor which can change everything, and be successful even against the most logical thinking.
    Ali Anani
    09/10/2016 #3 Ali Anani
    @David Navarro López- you wrote "But the biggest challenge is to build ourselves.

    As it is so complicated to consider all the factors, like culture and education background, social environment, life experiences, the only way I see to influence and upgrade myself, is to work on the basic factors, common to all human beings". This is exactly the difference between complicated and complex. Complicated systems like aeroplanes are programmed and work within rules and instructions. Humans are complex. Small changes in behavior might lead to different outcomes. In your previous buzzes you mentioned the ice cream case and how offering ice cream to employees during a hot day made you and the employees jubilant and more productive. This kind of butterfly effect doesn't exist in complicated systems.
    David Navarro López
    09/10/2016 #2 Anonymous
    #1 Good point, José Ramón. I am sure you have seen "The Matrix" (red pill or blue pill).
    We cannot have absolute freedom. We can only choose on the options we get. But on those we are the ones who decides. Making our decisions, or taking choices, based on good human values is a way to give life a chance to return "good" to you.
    José Ramón  🐝 López
    09/10/2016 #1 José Ramón 🐝 López
    Choise= Freedom. Really not all the people have the freedom to choise.