- Producer11/08/2017Starting over when it's probably too lateLearning a language is learning a culture. A language’s syntax offers clues to the way a society thinks, and the changes (over centuries) reflect the evolution of social interactions and the shifts in the way people view their local culture and the...
Comments12/08/2017 #17 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand AmbassadorIt's unfortunate we do not appreciate the English language, meaning we seem to conform it to the latest trend or what works to communicate. Even colloquial expressions vary from region to region, which must bring on confusion for those attempting to learn English.11/08/2017 #16 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess#13 As do I sometimes, @Dominuque! Of course, others are far smarter than I in so many ways . . . they probably shake their head and sigh when I do something kind of dumb in the tech world . . . or the music world . . . or the travel world . . .11/08/2017 #15 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess#14 And that's one of the oddities of the language, @Peter Altschuler, although I suspect it's universal with other languages as well. Why a sweater in American is called a jumper in England (and perhaps other countries) is a mystery. But a fun one at that.11/08/2017 #14 Peter Altschuler#9 For several years, @Susan Rooks, I edited the English-language version of "Buongiorno Venezia," a weekly newsletter about Venice, Italy. Yet the Italian publisher insisted that the text use British English.
Switching gears from U.S. to U.K. often sent me on lengthy quests to find the British equivalent of ordinary words; "jumper" instead of "sweater," for instance. The use of plurals, too, is different, as is the placement of punctuation and, obviously, the spelling.
It did, however, come in handy when clients needed copy to be Anglicized for use in British English-speaking countries.11/08/2017 #13 Dominique 🐝 Petersen#9 It's different when you're an editor; you HAVE to know all the rules. What I mean is my reading an email or a post and trying to figure out what the writer is trying to convey. For example, incorrect spelling or wrong word usage makes it difficult to follow. I can accept that from a foreign writer as they have another language. I find it hard to accept from someone who only has ONE Language—English! ;o)11/08/2017 #12 Peter Altschuler#6 Ah, @Dominique Petersen, that is a bit of a problem. Yet it may explain why audiobooks are so popular. I can speak from experience about that medium, since I've recorded several wonderful titles -- "Major Pettigrew's Last Stand," "The Peculiar," and "Creativity, Inc." among them.
That may not qualify as actual book reading, but it's better than reading articles about the Kardashians.11/08/2017 #10 Peter Altschuler#5 Math, @Lisa Vanderburg, is far more logical than language, but the rules are not meant to be broken.
My youngest daughter was absolutely convinced that she wasn't going to graduate from high school because she was sure she was going to fail math. The anxiety didn't help. Her eldest sister suggested that she spend a single weekend with her husband Ron, a man I referred to as a mathemagician.
In two days, he made everything so clear, so straightforward, and so unintimidating that my daughter walked away with a B+ for the class... and went on to graduate magna cum laude from college.
I placed out of college-level math because I'd taken calculus in high school, but I never cared a bit about mathematics. It was only my teachers' skill that gave me an appreciation of numbers, equations, and theorems and allowed me to excel.
So my guess is that you just need to find the right "interpreter" -- someone who's fluent in the language of math and knows how to translate it for others.11/08/2017 #9 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess#1 To be fair, @Dominique Petersen, it's not just the young.
Many of my copyediting clients are in their 40s, 50s, or 60s. They just have forgotten some things they knew, or perhaps they weren't paying much attention back in school.
And if I hadn't decided about 25 years ago to really study this topic of American grammar and usage, I'd be among them! I was really surprised at the rules I'd either never known or had forgotten.11/08/2017 #7 Peter Altschuler#2 My life's an endless litany of grammatical affronts, @Susan Rooks. From billboards proclaiming, "Most 747's to Paris," to the now thankfully diminished use of "persons" ("The rally was attended by 500 persons of various backgrounds") instead of "people," my days are pocked with blemishes on English.
English, to its credit, is a sponge. It readily absorbs words and phrases from other languages and makes itself a little more expressive in the process. (The Académie Française doesn't feel the same way about French.) Yet it's not an easy language to master. Its pronunciation makes no sense, its possessives are unique, and its genders don't really exist, which results in a lot of "theirs" there.
H-o-w-e-v-e-r... I'd never propose that people must have a command of every nuance to be masterful writers. All they have to do is be able to be understood in print. Granted, that requires the ability to think about and organize what's to be said, and that's a discipline that begins at the beginning -- with the input a child gets from its parents.
As with any apprenticeship, it's vital to learn which tools to use, how to use them, and how to care for and maintain them. Grammar, punctuation, and syntax are the toolkit of language, and they can help transform misshapen ideas into ones that make sense.
Of course, we don't get to choose to become an apprentice of language. We're forced into it and, frequently, we're tutored by those who never made it to the level of Master. But that's what public schools are for... if they invest in great teaching and do the job they're intended to do.11/08/2017 #4 Peter Altschuler#1 I almost understand the mounting flaws among the young, @Dominique Petersen. Their schooling and their parents and the culture bear the blame (along with cuts to local education budgets, of course). What's inexplicable is the inability -- by people who should know better -- to write even simple declarative sentences. Yet maybe they're just trying to be young and hip and not so oh-so-20-minutes-ago.
But I have another target in my scope: the media. Their adoption and use of contemporary idiocies only perpetuates the notion that those phrases and words might be right. Examples? "Fail" as a noun, as in "an epic fail." Or "go missing," as if missing were a destination, instead of a state of (non)being. Apparently, "vanish" and "disappear" have, ahem... gone missing.11/08/2017 #2 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess"Take grammar. Americans seem to think it’s absorbed by osmosis. That’s true, in a sense, but if the source is incorrect or corrupted, so are the lessons passed along to the children. If you be learned that this sentence done satisfies what you knows about English, well… you’re going to be at a distinct disadvantage."
Love, love, LOVE this, @Peter Altschuler! I know that there are a lot of ways to be smart and to be seen as being smart, and I realize that English grammar and usage may not be among someone's top strengths.
That being said, it is learnable. And it's necessary that we all learn it. The basics are everywhere -- in my posts and those of others -- because presenting ourselves as professionals means showing our ability to communicate in a professional manner. Otherwise, our smarts may not shine through; they may be buried under poorly constructed sentences or errors in word usage that turn readers or listeners away.
OK, enough. Yes. I wish more folks would pay attention to this basic way of showing their worth to others. Thanks for being such a strong voice here.
- Producer14/11/2016Zombee, Buzz Off, & Wannabee (beBee Slang)Zombee: in beBee this refers to some bee that has been put out to rest and rises from the dead to come back and wreak havoc amongst us. They will try to eat your money, your brains, and anything else of yours that they can feed off of.Rowan, seen in...
Comments14/11/2016 #2 Ben PintoThank you @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher. I really appreciate the share. I have since this put out a very serious article (with the exception of my usual way of trying to bring some happiness back in the world with a little humor at the end of the otherwise depressing piece) I tried to tag you and other but it wouldn't take my comment. I tried that 4 times and have given up for tonight. Unless you fee that Nine-Eleven and "9.1.1. Emergency" are merely a coincidence would you perhaps tag some people and share the it a few times. I am really frightened about what could happen exactly one month from now. I would love some feedback from some of our philosophers like yourself. I like beBee, but I am not very good at getting my stuff seen. #1
- Producer29/08/2016The Unofficial Guide to beBee Jargon for Beginners or Busy Bees Hey all you buzz heads out there; this is Bo Buzzbee with your, unofficial and totally unsanctioned, Guide to beBee Jargon for beginners. It’s about time someone came up with a list like this and who better than a total smart-spiracle like me eh?...
Comments27/02/2017 #56 Jim AbleHey, watch it there, Bro Bo, when you talk about bee-in a ZorroBee. That characterization is already taken. But to compensate you for your disappointment, I am sharing this piece to my network and the maximum number of hives allowed. Of course, it remains to be see whether that association helps you on beBee or becomes the kiss death, hoisted on your own petard. https://www.bebee.com/@jim-able23/10/2016 #45 Pamela 🐝 WilliamsCouldn't stop myself, had to laugh. Then I questioned; Why stop myself, it's funny! Thanks for the grins this morning Michael!
@Lisa 🐝 Gallagher, @Donna-Luisa Eversley @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador @David B. Grinberg @Milos Djukic et al. Funny stuff23/10/2016 #44 Michael D. Davis#43 Thank you for your comments and adding to the discussion Don! Thanks for following me here on beBee as well. I hope you have an opportunity to take a look at The Daily Chalkboard hive sometime. It's the "honey" I enjoy spreading more than any other on this new affinity social network.06/09/2016 #40 Mohammad Azam Khan#35 Short of that, and when required, beBee has the honey and the buzz and boBee and whatnot is not available, it's just that @Dean Owen is possibly looking for a catchy phrase for the comments. Bees communication, there's the waggle bee dance or waggle dance or waggle in short.
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- 27/06/2016Good luck with one, Franci. There are new beBee words popping up every day. Merriam-Webster will need a dictionary revision soon.