- 22/03/2017Are you active in the executive job market? Whether your approach is proactive or wholly reactive will directly determine your results! https://www.bebee.com/producer/@simon-gray/the-big-choice-executive-jobseekers-need-to-makeThe big choice executive jobseekers need to make!www.bebee.com In my experience the knee-jerk reaction for many C-suite / C-level executives entering the executive job market (whatever the reason) is often to...
- Producer20/03/2017SHOW, DON'T TELL: WHY RECRUITERS SHOULD ASK FOR MORE THAN A RESUMEOriginally published by ReWork, CornerstoneOnDemand's blog for Human Resources professionalsEmployers must take it on faith that the skills described on candidates' resumes accurately demonstrate that they have the “right stuff" to meet the...
Comments21/03/2017 #6 AnonymousThe cost of poor hires is very high. The return on investment in using the techniques describe in the post is high.
I use a practical test in interviews for IT developer roles. It is a simulation of a real problem that requires the candidate to think on their feet and to use a wider range of skills than simply cutting code. The code produced is not really the point of it. Some information is given up front. There is more information that can help if the person asks for it. If they don't ask they don't get. They are given clear instructions that set out very specific requirements for the exercise. It is designed to allow the candidate the opportunity to demonstrate and showcase their having the wider set of skills needed in the modern developer role. This approach does make a difference. It is not perfect, but it does reduce the risk of making a poor hiring decision. The smartest people with the best qualifications and skills who get through the recruitment process can still be toxic to a real team. Part of what recruitment is about is keeping the toxins out. Decontamination is very costly.21/03/2017 #5 Martin WrightI can see this method will work for a lot of companies. However so many recruiters play "We're too busy" game to actually try this out.
It may well be that if an organisation is looking for that something extra they need to provide the staff and the time to the search process to enable them to actually find them.21/03/2017 #2 Lisa 🐝 GallagherThis gives me hope @Lynda Spiegel. When I was hired as a Respiratory Technician- I had zero experience in Respiratory. I was a Nurses Aide for 2 years at the same hospital before applying for the job. The job was called "OJT Respiratory Technician." OJT= On the job trainee. We had 6 months worth of training, College level testing and hands on testing before we were allowed to go out on our own and do our jobs. There were many jobs like this available back in the early 80's. I'm fairly certain I receieved this job because my boss was looking for the qualities you described above. I know he was also looking for people who were able to function under a lot of stress and were fairly quick learners. I was fortunate because today, most people aren't looking at a person holistically and many smart, emotionally capable people get passed by. I forgot to mention, I got to know many people in my 2 years on the job including, the Respiratory Therapists, this also helped me to attain the job because of my reputation. :) Thanks for sharing this! Sharing again.
- Producer20/03/2017What To Do When Someone Tells You You're Not Good EnoughThroughout my career, I've been plagued by people telling me I'm not good enough. I've been rejected for more jobs than I care to remember. I've heard every excuse in the book for not being hired. Some of them were quite absurd and hard to...
Comments22/03/2017 #25 Jerry FletcherJohn,
I've come to the conclusion that there are three kinds of people in the world:
1. Those who don't know what they don't know and hence are not capable of giving advice
2. Those who know what they know and what they don't and can give advice on matters in their knowledge base
3. Those those that ask for advice from the knowledgeable, listen and then find out for themselves.
Of these the last is what I believe we should aim for while avoiding the unsolicited little voice in your head that says, "what makes you think you can..."21/03/2017 #24 Brian McKenzieMost people do not have the spine to have the conversation, "You are not good enough" ~ so they will passively aggressive ghost you in standard non-reply mode and hope you will get the hint......of course they made this grand decision of you in about 6 seconds between their Angry Birds game and live Instagram feed update 8?/ This is both Dating and HR - draw your conclusions and Venn Diagram as you will. PS - the military was always ready and eager to tell you what a worthless piece of shit you were - it built character.21/03/2017 #23 Marisa Fonseca DinizExcellent reflection! All professionals without exception have skills to perform certain functions, but there are few who are able to recognize their failures. It's no use having a huge bag of knowledge and experience if you do not have your self-esteem elevated, for whatever you do will be considered by others a disaster, that's how the world turns. The superego is also not the best solution, but it is what masks the shortcomings of many of the bosses currently employed in the labor market. Throughout my career I have also been rejected several times in companies that I considered excellence, but I realized that many were afraid that I would take on a smaller position and be able to take their position as manager over time, comfortable position of boss, and look that some even came to tell me this, but I never let myself be beaten by the negative words, quite the contrary, then later I realized the good that they themselves had done to me. I would never have the knowledge to grow in my career with people who had nothing to add. Beginning to write a blog, a book or articles is really a very arduous task, especially when we have the ardent desire to show all those who rejected us one day, that we have enough knowledge and experiences to share with anyone who knows nothing, but it is the determination and self-esteem that keep us going. And over time we realize how much being a blogger or writer or an author does us well, and make us leverage not only our career but also highlights us in the environment we live in, that is making a difference, not just behind of an office desk thinking that it is changing the lives of subordinates, the organization, or even their own career. Everyone should experience this experience because they would know where their strengths or weaknesses in their professional career lie.21/03/2017 #22 Aleta CurryAnd not everyone will tell you you're not good enough straight to your face. If it's implied rather than expressed, well, that may be even more destructive. One can respond to a direct put down with a sound 'FU', but when the put down is implicit, it plants insidious seeds of doubt in the mind.
Then there are those who tell you what you can't do out of sincere desire to keep you from failing.
Thanks, John for another thought-provoking article.21/03/2017 #21 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.this is really a beautiful message @John White, MBA, you will touch many hearts with it!21/03/2017 #20 Robert CormackVery interesting post, @John White, MBA. I've had my share of firings and toxic bosses as well. Interestingly enough, every time I've been fired, my boss has said "You do good work, Robert, but we're letting you go." I may write about this one day. It seems the day you stop nodding your head, you're a target. Head nodders always last longer than head shakers. Nobody has a problem with a "kiss ass" but if you fight, you have legions of people wishing you'd just go away. Thanks for the post.21/03/2017 #19 Steve JonesJohn thanks for writing this. I occasionally ask myself what motivates me and one thing I always come back to was back in the late 1970's when I totally messed up my GCSE's, (too much partying). My English teacher told me I would never amount to anything so I left school with very few qualifications and have WORKED ever since. I have never been out of work, even after redundancy. I'm lucky to have met and worked with some fantastic people over the years who have helped and supported me, but I'd also like to thank my English teacher who told me I'd never be good enough.21/03/2017 #18 Anonymous@John White, MBA Great to hear a story of recognition of what holds us back and what supports us in moving forward in our lives. If I surround myself with people who have higher expectations of me that I have of myself, then I will exceed my own expectations. My grandparents, my parents, my wife, my first manager, my friend who taught me squash, my friends, I can recite a long list of those who had higher expectations of me than I had of myself. There is a long list of detractors and belittlers but their names and roles have been crossed out so heavily I can't recall the names. Kia Kaha John, you do good service here.21/03/2017 #15 Lisa 🐝 GallagherThis article still inspires me @John White, MBA. For some reason, some people's titles have intimidated me. I think it depends on how they treat others with regards to being intimidated. I just wrote a small story about midlife and some feelings/fears I'm facing. My husband said, "Why do you write negative things when you do so many positive things in life?" I told him, I write what comes to mind and my writing does depend on my mood. Even articles that some may view as negative well, others can relate and I've found it can start conversations that lead to putting our heads together. At other times I admit, it's just cathartic. By the way, @David B. Grinberg tagged you, your company & I added your publications to the tag on my last post which is on Thriveglobal. You are an inspiration to so many and one day I would love to chat with you on the phone when you have time. I have a few ideas and I could use sound advice from someone like yourself! Kudos to you for ignoring the haters and letting them ignite your flame!21/03/2017 #13 Laura Donnelly@John White, MBA - enjoyed this post --- what helped me was accepting that I was good enough (coming from a family of perfectionists, this was a big step for me!) This quote: "Always remember, the people who say you can't do something can't do it either!" So true - and when you do it, they really don't like you, so better to leave them in the dust!21/03/2017 #12 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#5 This is very topical because I saw an interview with Matt Damon where the interviewer asked how his mentor in what was a regular school in Boston end up producing three Oscar winners in Damon, the two Afleck brothers. It is the way he fondly remembered his mentors that showed me just how many people in life are unsung heroes.
I believe that when we have that level of gratitude, that emotive energy can be sufficient to override the negative batteries that drain us of energy and life.
We know when we come across a negative battery, for their only purpose is to drain us, and so it is important to recognize these effects but also supplement positive effects that Matt Damon expressed in his great affection and tribute to his high school drama teacher, a man who selflessly taught his art so others could achieve the impossible dreams. We cannot let our lives be defined by tormentors when there are these mentors that you have expressed in our life.21/03/2017 #9 Devesh BhattWriting is a good way to get clarity. I think it work marvelouslly if a person reads you and writes thoughts about it somewhere for reflection. At a place where it can stand alone.
Not only as a comment that disappears between many comments but something for oneself to go back to after reading you.
Just a thought.21/03/2017 #8 David B. GrinbergNice buzz, John. A few thoughts:
1) The only person's opinion that really matter is your own (and perhaps that of your spouse by extension).
2) Don't believe or be influenced by the naysayers. The bigger your goal/dream, the more people will likely tell you why it's impossible to achieve. But nothing is impossible unless YOU think it's impossible.
3) As noted above, use criticism and/or derision as a catalyst for motivation to supersize your goals and work towards them more expeditiously and with renewed vigor.
4) In the end, most people will recognize you for big successes achieved, not failed attempts trying along the way.
- Producer18/03/2017Your Slice-of-Life Story Can Define Your Personal BrandGrowing up, I wanted to be the next Diane Sawyer on CBS TV’s ’60 Minutes’ news program. While that never happened. I did come close. Sort of. During college in the late ‘80s, I was accepted as a production assistant intern at...
Comments20/03/2017 #2 Kate Paine#1 Thank you, @Wayne Yoshida. I had started my article about an hour before our call. Then I was inspired to get my profile up on beBee and post an article. I thought the one I was working on would be a good "starting point." I wasn't quite sure, so thank you for your comment and making me feel better with my decision. I'm working on a few more articles, too.
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- Producer12/03/2017To Get Hired, be AuthenticHaving spent an embarrassing portion of my misspent youth trying to be someone I wasn't, I probably have middle-age to thank for being perfectly comfortable with being myself. Now that I've gotten to know me better, I kind of like the person I've...
Comments19/03/2017 #14 Frank BarciakI loved this post! For me, it took shifting to work with people with disabilities that massively shifted my mindset on what is important. Reducing the complexity and bandwidth/energy spent trying to be something you are not unleashes your ability to focus building on your strengths...and when people do that it is pretty amazing to watch! Just wondering are you open to taking requests or ideas for things others think may be useful in your blog in the resume/brand space? I have a few common questions around some emerging trends that your readers may be thinking about and you did such a great job with this post, would love to see you tackle some of them....let me know if you would be open to some topic ideas and again great post!13/03/2017 #7 John White, MBASorry, Lynda. This has nothing to do with MyTweetPack or LinkedIn. Let me try to explain it a different way. If you go to the bottom of your beBee profile there is a place where people can links to their website and other social media profiles. Add the link to your Twitter profile as one of your links. Then, when people on beBee hit the Twitter share button on one of your articles on beBee it will automatically populate your Twitter handle in their tweet. Then, you will get a notification that someone has tweeted your beBee article and you retweet, thank them, etc. Does this make sense? If not, call me when you're free and we can walk through it over the phone: 970.692.3270. Heck, it'd be good just to catch up post NLV! ;)12/03/2017 #2 John White, MBAThanks for posting this, @Lynda Spiegel! Can you please add the link to your Twitter profile as one of your links on your beBee profile? Once you do I will tweet it out to bring in more readers. If you don't link the two, you will never know when people tweet your articles (unless you were to randomly find them in your feed)
- Producer11/03/2017My Curriculum VitaeBuzz Submitted by : Javier Cámara Rica Buzz: Tu currículum no sirve para encontrar trabajo Spanish Buzz that talks about how to use curriculum vitae in the...
- 11/03/2017Please RT and spread the word to get Liz Ryan here! :)Jared 🐝 Wiese on Twittertwitter.com “Liz Ryan: "You are an amazing person!" vía @humanworkplace. Share the WHOLE YOU on @beBee! #beBeeBUZZ #PersonalBrand...
Comments12/03/2017 #8 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adding VALUE & RESULTSNot aware who Liz Ryan is?
From her Forbes bio, https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan/#237311ce190e View moreNot aware who Liz Ryan is?
From her Forbes bio, https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan/#237311ce190e...
"I write about bringing life to work and bringing work to life.
I was a Fortune 500 HR SVP for 10 million years, but I was an opera singer before I ever heard the term HR. The higher I got in the corporate world, the more operatic the action became. I started writing about the workplace for the Chicago Sun-Times in 1997, but it took me ages to find my own voice. Now I write for the Huffington Post, Business Week, LinkedIn, the Harvard Business Review, the Denver Post and Forbes.com, and lead the worldwide Human Workplace movement to reinvent work for people."
Gives you a great sense for her "whole you story" writing style.
On Twitter: @humanworkplace
THANKS FOR THE RTs, EVERYONE! Close11/03/2017 #4 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adding VALUE & RESULTSFYI, more about Liz:
"I write about bringing life to work and bringing work to life.
I was a Fortune 500 HR SVP for 10 million years, but I was an opera singer before I ever heard the term HR. The higher I got in the corporate world, the more operatic the action became. I started writing about the workplace for the Chicago Sun-Times in 1997, but it took me ages to find my own voice. Now I write for the Huffington Post, Business Week, LinkedIn, the Harvard Business Review, the Denver Post and Forbes.com, and lead the worldwide Human Workplace movement to reinvent work for people"
Twitter: @humanworkplace11/03/2017 #1 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adding VALUE & RESULTSThis One's got more clout ;)
Please RT :
- Producer10/03/2017Where will your passion take you?Vincent Van Gogh painted Starry Night Over the Rhone ar Arles wearing a straw hat with candles in it — this offered just enough light for him to paint by. It must have been quite a sight for anyone who cared to watch him atop the hill as he painted....
Comments10/03/2017 #6 🐝 Fatima WilliamsBeautiful painting @Graham🐝 Edwards
"I was inspired not only by the beauty of what I was looking at, but the imagery of someone in the dark creating something so beautiful while no one was looking."
So much to value and learn from the very things that are right in front of us. We only need to open our eyes are see. We need to be the light in someone's darkness #Lifegoals10/03/2017 #3 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adding VALUE & RESULTSA poetically poignant post, @Graham🐝 Edwards!
Passion starts within
but shines without.
As in your story, even by candlelight, it is possible.
Once it starts to shine enough, your value comes through.
When that happens, your passion becomes priceless.
What are your innate passions that you can let shine?!
- Producer09/03/2017Tech DivaDiva Tech Talk is a podcast inspired by leading women in tech. Kim Kaminski, VP Global Marketing TMaxSoft http://www.divatechtalk.com/blog/ep42 The Servant Warrior Leader audio book is the perfect companion to the original book and offers...
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- Producer07/03/2017Know Liz Ryan: The Queen of the Human Workplace and Your Career FriendPeople go to doctors when they don't feel well, then doctors examine them, evaluate their symptoms, and make a diagnosis to treat them effectively. Liz Ryan, "The Queen of the Human Workplace and LinkedIn Influencer," performs a similar job. She...
Comments08/03/2017 #11 David B. GrinbergMany thanks, Ivette, for this intro to Liz Ryan and her work. She certainly has a lot of good advice to offer. Frankly, I haven't read much of her because I'm generally turned off by the LinkedIn "INfluencer" crowd. However, I must admit she's done well for herself and her words of wisdom make sense. Now we just need to get her to join and/or buzz about beBee...07/03/2017 #9 Tausif MundrawalaHi, @Ivette K. Caballero. You made me nostalgic of her articles and posts which she prolifically penned one after another. They definitely contained messages which we would never get to hear from any HR expert. Her approach towards each and every person was different. I mean she helped everyone recognize their value as a person rather than a robotic employee to fend for his/her livelihood. It's commendable to list all the details here in this fantastic buzz.
- 07/03/2017Podcast with director of Chaos group and lighting supervisor Chris Nichols.
- Producer07/03/2017The Oracle's Wisdom and Leadership for The AgesThis article was originally shared on LinkedIn and is now also shared on Huffington Post and Medium."In the beginning...", said The OracleLast week I took Bill Gates advice and read Warren Buffett's 50th annual letter. Before I read it I reflected...
- Producer06/03/2017You are an amazing person!I saw this post on LinkedIn from Liz Ryan. She says:You are a vibrant, amazing person -- much more than what's on your resume! How do you get your passion and power across to employers? Liz RyanReinvention RoadmapReinvention Roadmap will teach you...
Comments08/03/2017 #20 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adding VALUE & RESULTSCheck out this other great buzz about Liz Ryan!
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ivette-k-caballero/know-liz-ryan-the-queen-of-the-human-workplace-and-your-career-friend07/03/2017 #17 Yogesh SukalAbout showcasing the personal brand, Today I posted about the new show started yesterday on National Geographic hosted by Modern philosopher jason silva.
And tweeted the bebee post on twitter and man himself appreciated, Jason Silva.
Amazing show to watch.
ORIGINS: Journey of Mankind
https://twitter.com/yogeshsukal/status/83911645080369152307/03/2017 #16 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adding VALUE & RESULTSCOPY and TWEET:
#LizRyan: "You are an amazing person!"
#PersonalBranding on #beBee
@humanworkplace #careers & #jobs = the WHOLE YOU!
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/you-are-an-amazing-person07/03/2017 #14 Phil FriedmanLiz Ryan is the only recruiting and HR expert whom I ever read. For she is the only one I have run across who speaks with honesty and authenticity -- a true "influencer" in her field. Head and shoulders above the pack. And I for one would welcome her sage voice on beBee.07/03/2017 #13 Claire L 🐝 Cardwell@Javier 🐝 beBee - thanks for sharing this article, I love Liz Ryan, she writes such great articles. I've missed a lot of her posts recently as I am no longer really on LinkedIn. It would be great if she joined beBee! I think it would be the perfect fit for her and this article said it all.07/03/2017 #12 Donald 🐝 GrandyGreat post from Liz Ryan. Love your comment Deb Helfrich "it is to see where an organization has pain, and show how you observed the issue, have options to solve the pain, and are the perfect person to implement those solutions" That is the secret sauce. Thanks for sharing.07/03/2017 #8 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#6 #7 You know, @Steve Brady - there is a great cross-pollination in the "pain points" approach that Liz recommends - which is rather than apply to jobs like sheep in a flock; it is to see where an organization has pain, and show how you observed the issue, have options to solve the pain, and are the perfect person to implement those solutions.
For way too many people, their careers are some of the most traumatic environs of their life - especially when it comes to justice and fairness.
And it just doesn't have to be that way. We humans created the rules of work so far. There is nothing inherent in selling widgets that requires people to check their souls at the door. Not even the much maligned assembly line or AI automation HAS to create trauma for individuals.
Humans can redesign work so that it is heart and soul safe. Collaboration and community focused, rather than competition and scarcity driven.
Your journey and work story are probably the exact sort of narrative that can help shift how we view our work organizations for the betterment of all involved.07/03/2017 #7 Steve Brady#1 I agree @Deb 🐝 Helfrich. Hope you are well btw. We haven't crossed paths in a while. I had to pull back from my Social Media adventures for a while. My PTSD issues became a bit too nasty for a while. I'm going to recover though....and I have learnt so much about myself and it has given me a heart connection and understanding with the many people in our societies who suffer from invisible wounds.07/03/2017 #6 Steve Brady@Javier 🐝 beBee and @Liz Ryan I'm going to confess up front that I am a compulsive book buyer. Just ask my wife! To my credit though, I do read 90% of them.
In this case @Javier 🐝 beBee you had me hooked as soon as I saw the graphic. Thank you for sharing Liz Ryan's LI post here on beBee. I am between "career phases" at present. I'm off work at present to focus on recovering through Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. When I had to stop work, I was distraught and was overwhelmed with thoughts and feelings akin to "my working life is over" and also a deep grief at having to leave a job I loved. I realize now. however, that all is not wasted. I have time to focus on healing, and also a fantastic opportunity to align my career, and use the skill set I've developed over 45 years to focus my career on Justice reform that is healing and restorative, and that at it's deepest level begins in the hearts and minds of people and in a larger context the cultures in which they live. Anyway....I purchased an e-copy of Liz's book. If my wife gets upset, can I say that you made me do it @Javier 🐝 beBee? Or is that going too far?07/03/2017 #5 David B. Grinberg#1 I concur with @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and kindly suggest considering the appropriate beBee official directly reach out to Liz Ryan and invite her to join and/or write about beBee. Thanks for considering this.
cc: @Javier 🐝 beBee @Juan Imaz @Matt 🐝 Sweetwood @John White, MBA
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Comments06/03/2017 #26 Wayne Yoshida#24 Robert - Thank you. Yes, I know what you mean. But, people to people contact is important. And - more fun. Find something you enjoy doing, and share it with others - maybe my early interest in ham radio influenced this on me, it is traditional in ham radio for experienced "old timers" of any age - to help people. The fancy name for this is "mentoring."
Another example of re-inventing the wheel, I guess....06/03/2017 #24 Robert CormackEnjoyed this, @Wayne Yoshida Networking is hard, especially when you want to devote your time to writing, or thinking about writing, or writing about writing. The thought of interacting with people plays last, but I know it's an important component of being seen and heard. Thanks for posting.05/03/2017 #17 Wayne Yoshida#14 I have a friend who's in one of those government organizations. Every now and then, he calls me on the phone. I never call him. But every time he calls me, I get to hear about some interesting and dangerous mission he is on, and he's taking a break. Stuff not shown on the news (either fake or real).
Another government guy I know I can call, and he answers the phone with a certain set of numbers. Interesting. And we have a "normal conversation" about various topics.
Neither of them use social media at all . . . .