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  1. ProducerLily Jones

    Lily Jones

    12/12/2017
    How To Choose The Best Assignment Provider in UK
    How To Choose The Best Assignment Provider in UKAs the end of each semester pulls in closer, the students start to become more serious about their academics. The dorms become more silent and the students, who don't live in the dorms, but with their families, search for peace so they can...
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  2. ProducerTanmoy Ray

    Tanmoy Ray

    05/12/2017
    How to Write a Powerful Statement of Purpose (SoP) for Graduate School Admissions
    How to Write a Powerful Statement of Purpose (SoP) for Graduate School AdmissionsWhat is a Statement of Purpose (SOP)? Why do the universities and colleges ask for SOP? How important is SOP in the admission process for foreign universities? How to write SOP? What to include in a SOP? What should be the ideal format (and flow) of...
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  3. ProducerMarggie Hopkins

    Marggie Hopkins

    30/11/2017
    The Truth About Online Degrees: 5 Common Myths Busted
    The Truth About Online Degrees: 5 Common Myths Busted“The basic economic resource – the means of production is no longer capital, nor natural resources, nor labor. It is and will be knowledge”How can one person be good at different spheres of life? Such a bothering question. Not everybody...
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    Phil Friedman
    30/11/2017 #1 Phil Friedman
    You sre correct that there is nothing inherently wrong with at-distance learning. The problem with online school is that most of them are not acctedited by a major organization, nnor is it clear that their teachers are qualified. Indeed, most appear to be nothing more than diploma mills.

    BTW, are yoou related to John Hopkins here on beBee who is also posting about online education assistance, and whose profile, like your, lacks any detail?
  4. ProducerJim Able

    Jim Able

    21/11/2017
    Worldwide Call for Members and Directors
    Worldwide Call for Members and DirectorsEt Societas Bovis Stercore is seeking to expand its membership globally and to find candidates to sit on its Board of Directors...ESBS  is a global online co-op of those who seek with goodwill to give back some of that which they receive on a daily...
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    Jim Able
    22/11/2017 #14 Jim Able
    #12 Tu quoque, my clod-hopping friend. Have a happy and restful Thanksgiving holiday. Oh wait, you already did that in October.:-)
    Jim Murray
    22/11/2017 #12 Jim Murray
    You're so full of shit, it amaze me sometimes.
    Jim Able
    22/11/2017 #11 Jim Able
    #3 Yes, Wayne, almost as interesting as a phony degree from an online diploma mill in one's profile.
    Jim Able
    22/11/2017 #10 Jim Able
    #9 For the record, @Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess, I'm a big fan of Richard DiPilla, who not only promotes his Global Goodwill Ambassadors group, but shares a lot of posts of other freely and with goodwill to all. My posting is intended to alert everyone to the danger of unreflective joining in upstart groups that have no history or reliable historical information available, such as the one which just popped up out of Toronto, driven by someone who had been removed for cause by RDP, who can only benefit if people are more careful. Caveat membrum.
    Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess
    22/11/2017 #9 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess
    #5 As if we can't have multiple groups without stabbing others in the back, @Jim Able, referring to the Global Goodwill Ambassadors and Richard DiPilla being hit and hurt for no good reason.

    Pity that Toronto con-man just can't go away quietly.
    Brian McKenzie
    22/11/2017 #8 Brian McKenzie
    You had me at Alfred E Newman
    Jim Able
    22/11/2017 #7 Jim Able
    #4 Thank, Brian, although if you like something, it makes me wonder what I've done wrong. Still, we anti-sweetness guys have to stick together, don't you think?
    Jim Able
    22/11/2017 #6 Jim Able
    #3 Yes, Wayne, almost as good as one or two or three diploma-mill degrees placed strategically on one's profile in the hope that nobody will ever bother to check who the "schools" really are.
    Jim Able
    22/11/2017 #5 Jim Able
    #2 Probably, although there is a backstory here. There is a Toronto-based con-man pushing a new competitor to Richard DiPilla's Global Goodwill Ambassador group. And tilting at windmills is a Jim Able specialty.
    Brian McKenzie
    22/11/2017 #4 Brian McKenzie
    Hazza, GrumblePot Approved 💩
    Wayne Yoshida
    22/11/2017 #3 Wayne Yoshida
    Brilliantly Jim Able. Could be an interesting entry on one's resume, eh?
    Kevin Pashuk
    22/11/2017 #2 Kevin Pashuk
    You have waaaayyyy too much time on your hands "Jim"...
    Jim Able
    21/11/2017 #1 Jim Able
    Give back some of what you receive. Join our worldwide organization for the fertilization of global thought. To become a member and/or apply to become a member of our Board of Directors, connect and private message me -- or add your profile link to the comment thread here.
  5. ProducerAustin Serrvain

    Austin Serrvain

    20/11/2017
    Why Distance Learning?
    Why Distance Learning?Reliability vs SimplicitySo, you are considering taking on a degree in Botswana, Africa. You are faced with a choice, and one that has only been an option for a few years.With the introduction of distance learning courses in Botswana, Africa, you...
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  6. ProducerBotho University
    Studying a Master’s Degree Online
    Studying a Master’s Degree OnlineThe Next StepIt is becoming quite common now for students to carry out their studies online via a distance learning course.However, the thing that many do not consider is the option of continuing your studies once you have completed your degree....
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    Milan Vuk Stankovic
    20/11/2017 #1 Milan Vuk Stankovic
    For some areas studying online or mastering, is 100% easier and better.
    But unfortunately there's to many colleges that are scammers, their degrees don't worth absolutely anything
  7. Producersiena william

    siena william

    18/11/2017
    Best Assignment Help Service in Australia
    Best Assignment Help Service in AustraliaStudying in one of the most reputed educational institutions in Australia? Or are you currently pursuing your higher studies in one of the Ivy League colleges in the US? Either way, you should prepare yourself for the onset of several...
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  8. ProducerCharles McKenny

    Charles McKenny

    15/11/2017
    How to write a Graduation Speech
    How to write a Graduation SpeechA person is never asked to speak at a graduation ceremony unless the individual has many accomplishments, or  exemplary performance has brought him or her to the top. In most cases people who are asked to speak in ceremonies are the dean of the...
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  9. ProducerLyon Brave

    Lyon Brave

    15/11/2017
      Stop Dreaming+Get Planning= Start Living
    Stop Dreaming+Get Planning= Start LivingThere is a reason in almost every art form professors teach, they teach the art of planning. In literature you might learn to make an outline for your story or research paper. With art you learn to make thumbnail sketches and in music you compose. ...
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    Bernard Poulin
    22/11/2017 #3 Bernard Poulin
    #2 I know! I know!!! Sorry! I thought the world would simply forget me after 50 years in this business. But no. . . :)) They haven't! The clients are being demanding these days and I can't get to sit down 5 minutes to say "and now what needs doing? Phew! Getting there. Will NOT forget you.
    Lyon Brave
    21/11/2017 #2 Lyon Brave
    #1

    @Bernard Poulin I have not recieved yourbook yet.
    Bernard Poulin
    17/11/2017 #1 Bernard Poulin
    EXCELLENT! You would make a superb, more than credible coach to millennials - and make a bundle too.
  10. ProducerMark Blevins

    Mark Blevins

    13/11/2017
    Thoughts About The Holidays
    Thoughts About The HolidaysI’ve had appointments in the morning this week and got to the coffee shop late. There was a different crowd than I’m used to seeing there. A couple of workers noticed me in there at a different time than usual. The rain has been off and on...
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    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador
    19/11/2017 #3 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador
    This is a great post! So matter of fact and sincere. I thoroughly enjoyed this. Happy Holidays, @Mark Blevins
    Pascal Derrien
    14/11/2017 #2 Pascal Derrien
    I love your diary entries :-)
    Jerry Fletcher
    14/11/2017 #1 Jerry Fletcher
    Keep the faith Mark (the one that works for you.)
  11. ProducerLyon Brave

    Lyon Brave

    08/11/2017
    The Power of Choice: Win or Lose It's Up to You!
    The Power of Choice: Win or Lose It's Up to You!Life is crazy and then you die. I wish i could say something more poetic or profound, but life is no great mystery. Life is what we do. Nothing more. Nothing less. The sum of your life is what you do. Everyday we have choices to make. We can engage...
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    Lyon Brave
    13/11/2017 #5 Lyon Brave
    @Sara Jacobovici that is really generous and cool comment
    Sara Jacobovici
    09/11/2017 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    I love your buzzes @Lyon Brave. Each is like your fingerprint. I found this buzz very powerful. Two lines that stood out for me were: "Life is the sum of our choices.' and "Your life is your design and you have great power over it." In any discussion about choice I like to quote Viktor Frankl. He says, "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." Wishing you all the success in realizing your choices Lyon.
    Brian McKenzie
    08/11/2017 #3 Brian McKenzie
    #2 @Lyon Brave Kyrgyzstan - Middle of nowhere - the center of everything to come.
    Looking at land to go off grid and ghost for good. They have a nice track to citizenship, favorable start up climate and Russian is the order of the day. I can go weeks without speaking English outside of the Classroom. The last year and a half here has been life changing.
    Lyon Brave
    08/11/2017 #2 Lyon Brave
    @Brian McKenzie what is your favorite country so far?
    Brian McKenzie
    08/11/2017 #1 Brian McKenzie
    Best of success in China. I left America when they re-elected Obama. No regrets - other than I should have left in 2008 at his first term. I was born in America, my home is where my duffle lands, 24 countries & counting.
  12. ProducerJeremy Pearson

    Jeremy Pearson

    07/11/2017
    Why Students Plagiarize Papers
    Why Students Plagiarize PapersDespite all attempts to ban plagiarism and detect copied content, students still plagiarize. Why is this? Why do students keep using stolen content in their papers, risking getting caught by their professors? With the advance in technology and...
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  13. ProducerHenry Wilson

    Henry Wilson

    07/11/2017
    Best Assignment Writing Service in Australia
    Best Assignment Writing Service in AustraliaInstant Assignment Help Australia is committed to deliver professional academic writing solutions to the clienteles residing in Australia. We have a team of excellent writers who are Ph.D certified and have years of experience in providing...
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  14. ProducerTanmoy Ray

    Tanmoy Ray

    02/11/2017
    How to Choose the Right Career Path
    How to Choose the Right Career PathChoosing the right career path could be a confusing and overwhelming task for the majority of students. While people might tell you to pursue your passion, that could be a very vague advice at times. Few people might also tell you to choose a career...
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  15. ProducerClair Wilson

    Clair Wilson

    26/10/2017
    Case Study: 4 Home Business Opportunities for Artists
    Case Study: 4 Home Business Opportunities for ArtistsCreative individuals can use the internet to create any of these home business opportunities.Artists can put their talent to work to build any of these home business opportunities with little start-up costs and can be modeled to fit any medium, from...
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  16. ProducerNick Ross

    Nick Ross

    25/10/2017
    How to Write an Extraordinary College Application Essay
    How to Write an Extraordinary College Application EssayDo you want to write a professional college application essay that’s going to get you into the college of your dreams? It sounds easier said than done, right? However, before you get started, you need to arm yourself with useful tips from those who...
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  17. Producerkarla vega

    karla vega

    24/10/2017
    Como eliminar las estrias con Aceite de Rosa Mosque
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  18. ProducerMark Blevins

    Mark Blevins

    17/10/2017
    Weekends
    WeekendsI saw some friends last week. They told me Friday the 13th was coming up and asked me if I was ready for it. I told them except for some horror movies I don’t even know what Friday the 13th is even about. They laughed and said they just sit...
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  19. ProducerLena Graham

    Lena Graham

    13/10/2017
    Tips to learn English
    Tips to learn EnglishTo acquire spoken English skill is the most interesting and rewarding part of learning English. To be able to speak good and grammatically correct English is a big plus in the career market. Even if you speak only a little English, there are many...
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  20. ProducerPhil Friedman

    Phil Friedman

    13/10/2017
    Invitations Such As This to Commit Academic Fraud Are ...
    Invitations Such As This to Commit Academic Fraud Are ...NOT ONLY ETHICALLY REPREHENSIBLE BUT GENERALLY PRAGMATICALLY STUPID ...Notice that the "author" of this offer to help you cheat on school writing assignments makes more than eight substantive grammatical and style errors in the first run-on sentence...
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    Phil Friedman
    21/10/2017 #35 Phil Friedman
    #33 I agree that writing non-bylined material for a brand or firm is NOT ghostwriting. But not because of who the user is, rather because there usn’t a byline attached. For the same reason, no ethical issues are involved. Cheers!
    Alexa Steele
    21/10/2017 #33 Alexa Steele
    #32 This might go without saying, but there is also a difference between writing content for a brand and writing on behalf of an individual. When I write content for a brand I don't consider it ghostwriting, even if I don't get the byline. Of course, a nice "about the author" blurb with a link back to my website is always nice, but not required under a writing-for-hire scenario.
    Phil Friedman
    21/10/2017 #32 Phil Friedman
    #31 Very good point, @Alexa Steele. There is a spectrum of ghostwriting which runs from re-write/editing (polishing up the client's original work and ideas) to writing a piece from start to finish, including developing the original idea(s). The latter is, as you say, just as questionable ethically as writing academic papers to be submitted under someone else's name. I personally have always been able to dissuade a potential client from taking the latter path by pointing out the risk of exposure if someone smart should simply ask a couple of well-framed questions about the work. And I usually suggest writing the piece under my own byline, specifically for their use with a brief introduction by them to the white paper or other piece. That way, they get to "content" mileage out of the piece but avoid misrepresenting it as their original work. Cheers!
    Alexa Steele
    21/10/2017 #31 Alexa Steele
    #29 I agree with @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian. Ghostwriting is about helping someone (usually a professional) put his or her own ideas into presentable pros. Of course, there are plenty of ghostwritten works out there to which the named author contributed zero original thought. But I would question those works legitimacy just as much as you are with the academic papers.
    Phil Friedman
    20/10/2017 #30 Phil Friedman
    #29 Good points, @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian. The point is that selling an academic paper to a student with the intent for that student to submit it for credit as his or her own work is NOT ghostwriting. It is soliciting and participating in academic fraud.

    Ghostwriting is, as you point out, writing for hire. I would add that it has to do with helping someone communicate his or her ideas to an audience -- which might be customers or colleagues or target markets. It might even be for the purpose of creating a white paper or a book that is sold for profit. None of which is fraudulent because the work itself has more or less value and stands on its own.

    This is not the case for an academic paper which is submitted in satisfaction of an assignment or requirement in connection with the student (the buyer) receiving certification that he or she has completed a given course of study satisfactorily. That IS fraudulent.

    In some cases, you may feel it doesn't matter. But what would you think if the professional engineer who designed the high bridge you drive across every day had cheated by having someone else do most of his or her work in the course of getting a degree and being certified? Or the surgeon who is going to take out your appendix next week? Or -- perhaps this will make more sense -- the chef who is nominally trained and given a certificate in safe food handling?

    How would you feel about people in Quebec hiring other people to take their driver's license tests for them? Oh, wait, that might not be a fair question about Montreal drivers. :-)
    Paul "Pablo" Croubalian
    20/10/2017 #29 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian
    #28 Actually, this is not at all related to ghostwriting, even if you used quotes around legitimate to (possibly) imply there is no such thing.

    Ghostwriting is just writing as work-for-hire. Of course, there is legitimate ghostwriting. It is a valuable service offered to those whose talents lie in other areas, or to those for whom English is not fully mastered.

    Contrary to popular belief, while everyone can write, not everyone can write well.

    Even for my clients, I don't really write their stuff for them. I usually start from a topic and bullet-form points, or the equivalent of a BUFD (butt-ugly first draft).

    I'm usually already familiar with the topic so away I go (I mostly write for tech people, although lately Finance, Real Estate, and Legal stuff has been coming my way. ) Often, what I do is more editing than writing.

    Having someone else do your homework is good for grades but crap for actual learning. I really don't understand the point.

    Having a professional polish your thoughts into presentable prose is completely different. It's just a question of using resources to their best use.

    I disagree about this being beBee's responsibility. It has nothing to do with them, and there is no need for beBee to be embarrassed, or even peeved. Taking action would open the evil door of censorship. Where would it start and stop?

    We bees are smart enough to decide what we think.
    Phil Friedman
    19/10/2017 #28 Phil Friedman
    So, guys, I am surprised that up to this point nobody out there has raised the question of how this differs from "legitimate" ghostwriting -- if it does. What say you? @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian, @Lada 🏡 Prkic, @Milos Djukic, @John White, MBA, @Wayne Yoshida, @Aleta Curry, @Alexa Steele, @Jerry Fletcher and others?
    Randall Burns
    19/10/2017 #27 Randall Burns
    #26 Reminds me of the,

    "Derek Zoolander School For Kids That Can't Read Good And Want To Do Other Things Good Too "
    Phil Friedman
    19/10/2017 #26 Phil Friedman
    #24 Perhaps, @Randall Burns, the target market is non-English students seeking degrees at English-speaking schools. So the idea is not to write papers in perfect English. Aw, the fact is that such services exist only because of academic laziness in reading and evaluating work submitted by students. What would happen if someone offered to take medical exams for others? Probably bury a lot of the mistakes.
    Phil Friedman
    19/10/2017 #25 Phil Friedman
    #21 @Lada 🏡 Prkic, academics who provide writing services would have to be already “defrocked” or risk being fired for academic/ethics violation. For this kind of activity strikes at the heart of academic principle. Cheers!
    Randall Burns
    19/10/2017 #24 Randall Burns
    LMAO @Phil Friedman, too funny in that anyone needing these "services" will fall for it bypassing the clear lack of a grasp of the English language presented in this "buzz/ad" while I immediately saw the glaring mistakes right off the bat, (seriously thought it was a joke when I first saw it)
    Aleta Curry
    14/10/2017 #23 Aleta Curry
    #11 That's golden, @Neil Smith!
    Aleta Curry
    14/10/2017 #22 Aleta Curry
    The mind boggles.
    Lada 🏡 Prkic
    14/10/2017 #21 Lada 🏡 Prkic
    #20 I read about those folks you've mentioned Praveen. There are also many controversies about academics who write essays for sale. It's difficult to fully see the effects of using a writing assignment service in the world of higher education.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    14/10/2017 #20 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Very well reported and promptly addressed by you and Javbee. I agree to what you have so well pointed out Phil. Education has become a business and not a honest striving for many. Heck, I have heard of folks who write theses for Ph.D. aspirants locally (where i now live). Helping someone improve their thinking and writing skills is a noble task. But doing it ALL for them (and with such an obvious display of incompetence) is fraudulent impersonation and more...sorry state of affairs indeed!
    Phil Friedman
    14/10/2017 #19 Phil Friedman
    #17 I agree, @Wayne Yoshida, in the main. However, I believe this is worse than simply buying a supposed credential from a diploma mill. For with the mill, the lack of legitimate accreditation is easily obvious. While a fraudulent paper or thesis, might (just might) result in getting a degree from a legitimate institution. Cheers!
    Milos Djukic
    13/10/2017 #18 Anonymous
    #6 Thank you @Javier 🐝 beBee.
    Wayne Yoshida
    13/10/2017 #17 Wayne Yoshida
    Thanks for catching this, @Phil Friedman - and thanks @Javier 🐝 beBee for removing it. Those "services" exist for a long time. Unfortunately, all it teaches is a way to cheat or to buy one's credentials. It is important to un-cover and remove such practices, since this is what diminishes the value of any certification, endorsement or diploma.
    Phil Friedman
    13/10/2017 #16 Phil Friedman
    #13 Yep, @Jerry Fletcher, what I try to explain to people seeking to improve their writing is that it is simply the expression of their ideas. So the first step is to strengthen your thinking because strong ideas expressed in an average way will always win out over weak ideas clothed in the finest of language. Cheers!
    Phil Friedman
    13/10/2017 #15 Phil Friedman
    #11 Yes, Neil, especially when you consider that his natural abilities ran along the lines of being a Pastry Chef -- for clearly he was able to generate just desserts. :-)
  21. ProducerMark Blevins

    Mark Blevins

    13/10/2017
    Random Thoughts About The Week
    Random Thoughts About The WeekI was drinking coffee the other day with a retired guy. He worked as an architect for years. Since I want to take the Interior Architecture course at Cornish, there’s a common interest. He’s also bought a couple drawings I had printed up. He...
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    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    14/10/2017 #5 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    Really enjoyed this @Mark Blevins. Epic story about the coffee shop! And, couldn't agree more about teens and the loss of control we have no matter what rules they are given. Each child is different. My second pushed me to the limit often. She had and still does have a great heart but she was such a social butterfly in HS, it was hard to hold her back w/out major tiffs going on constantly. I'm glad she grew up! :)
    Jerry Fletcher
    13/10/2017 #4 Jerry Fletcher
    Good to hear from you Mark.
    John Rylance
    13/10/2017 #3 John Rylance
    I measured out my life in coffee spoons. T S ELIOT
    Pascal Derrien
    13/10/2017 #1 Pascal Derrien
    ah coffee ... :-)
  22. ProducerBrenda Bernstein
    Top 20 Tips on Writing ATS-Compatible Resumes for ATS Systems
    Top 20 Tips on Writing ATS-Compatible Resumes for ATS SystemsOne of the most popular sessions at The National Resume Writers’ Association Conference last week was Pat Criscito’s presentation on how to write ATS-Compatible Resumes. ATS (or Applicant Tracking Software) systems are used by the majority of...
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    Harley King
    11/10/2017 #1 Harley King
    Great advice, @Brenda Bernstein!
  23. ProducerMarggie Hopkins

    Marggie Hopkins

    11/10/2017
    Tips for passing the GRE test
    Tips for passing the GRE testIn order to mentally adjust to the desired GRE result, attention should be paid to certain points during preparation and during testing. Experts from writingservice.info, who passed these exams, will tell about this.Carefully read the topics of...
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  24. ProducerMark Blevins

    Mark Blevins

    10/10/2017
    A Day In The Park
    A Day In The ParkI came back to Seattle the end f last December because one of my daughters was having trouble. It’s hard to believe I’ve been here for almost a year. Since I’ve been here I’ve seen most of my kids and my granddaughter’s mom. Seattle has never...
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    Jerry Fletcher
    12/10/2017 #4 Jerry Fletcher
    Mark, Within the pain the ability to recognize your connection with the birds is amazing. I hope you can stay warm here in the upper left corner.
    Aleta Curry
    11/10/2017 #3 Aleta Curry
    Love moments like this. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador
    11/10/2017 #2 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador
    Wow, this is a great story. We can learn so much about nature if we just listen.
    Kevin Baker
    11/10/2017 #1 Kevin Baker
    Awesome tale of stay connected to nature any way you can, thanks for sharing
  25. ProducerJohn White, MBA

    John White, MBA

    07/10/2017
    Learn Why Some Top Gen Zers Are Skipping School to Become Entrepreneurs
    Learn Why Some Top Gen Zers Are Skipping School to Become EntrepreneursSomething amazing is happening with Gen Z: 61% of Gen Z who are still in high school and 43% of Gen Z who are in college say they would rather be entrepreneurs than employees when they graduate. This is a major shift from recent generations like the...
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    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    11/10/2017 #23 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    Great info @John White, MBA. Couldn't agree more, college has become way too expensive and jobs are lacking. Kudos to the younger generation for their innovation, drive and desire to become an entrepreneur. I love your info graphic and wow- forgot how much Zuckerburg has matured since that photo was taken.

    I wish they still trained people for jobs based on their willingness and intellect. That's how I became a Respiratory Tech and Cardiac Lab tech- OJT (On the job training) because there was a need for it and people believed in me. I was going to finish college back then but the pay and experience was too good to pass up. Sadly, after we moved I wasn't able to work in the fields I grew to love and know so much about because everyone required a College degree. I'm also a tactile learner, so not all of us are 'so called' College material. I did go on to get my Associates when my kids were in middle school & HS but wasn't able to return for personal reasons- financial being one of the largest after I had to start paying my own student loan and a Parental Plus loan for one of my kids. For those who aren't aware how much student loans can cost- lets just say, they can be more costly than a house payment each month. Go Entrepreneurs!!
    Jerry Fletcher
    10/10/2017 #22 Jerry Fletcher
    Show me an entrepreneur without some education and I'll show you an accident getting ready to happen. In today's world even a high school diploma is insufficient to suggest one has the capability to build a company. Even some college as Jobs, Gates and Zuckerberg had are questionable.For way too many years in my opinion we have pushed aside trade education in the USA based on the idea that everyone should go to college. What was once learned in high school is now pushed into Community Colleges and as a result is delaying young men and women from their still required apprenticeship.The only ones that will profit from this trend is the adult education market and the charlatans that prey on the aspirations of these young people..

    If they are still around in a few years (and legit) the positioning line of Phoenix University "WE RISE" will be justified.
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    10/10/2017 #21 Javier 🐝 beBee
    #20 @Milos Djukic I agree. Skipping school is not a good thing. At least, we need an important education
    Milos Djukic
    09/10/2017 #20 Anonymous
    Skipping school is not a good idea.
    Wayne White
    08/10/2017 #19 Wayne White
    This was a great article for many baby boomers also rather have their own rather than the traditional route. In my situation, I have a disability and I thought of the almost perfect business for myself and many in my age group can't stand being turning down for a job when they are clearly qualified for the position or worst than that, some 20-30 something has a parent issue and they are the one to seem to be your boss. Imagine, just because they had a bad childhood they turn around and take it out on you for just being there and wanting to work and be left alone. Mr. White, thank you for a great article and have a great day.
    Harley King
    08/10/2017 #18 Harley King
    Great article, John.
    Linda Adams
    08/10/2017 #17 Linda Adams
    Interesting article John. I was a late baby boomer, and not only were you encouraged to find a job for life, but girls weren't even encouraged to go to college and university, as we were only taught needlework, cooking and girly sports like netball in high school. I was horrified when I later learned girls had marks deducted in examinations so they didn't do as well as boys. We weren't allowed to do metalwork, woodwork nor play football. I remember my dad being horrified when I wanted to change jobs after two years into my first job - for a promotion, as you rightly say it was finding a job until retirement. It was a sad day when my granddad retired, having worked in the same job from age 14 to be given a gold watch at 65. As he said, what is the point of having a watch when you retire, and people were old at 65. So I say all the best to the Gen Zers. And yes, I left the formal employment and became an entrepreneur - nothing like having your own company. Regards, Linda
    Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
    08/10/2017 #16 Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
    This all seems a bit rush to me. If someone doesn't have a plan about his life, becoming an entrepreneur isn't going to automatically fix that. You can still have a good life as a conventional worker and then, when you have what it takes and you have a vision about your life that you cannot fulfill through your day job, then you can consider becoming an entrepreneur. Just because we are aware of a handful of very successful people who made it big through starting their own companies, it doesn't mean that everyone can benefit from becoming an entrepreneur...
    Nick Mlatchkov
    08/10/2017 #15 Anonymous
    '61% of Gen Z who are still in high school'
    I think this is due more because of an attitude which students tend to demonstrate in excess nowadays. They know nothing about the job market which has gotten much tougher than the one for the baby boomers ...
    Andrew 🐝 Goldman
    08/10/2017 #14 Andrew 🐝 Goldman
    Time repeats itself. Schools & universities don’t guarantee success, profitability or a career. And it’s not new, just by checking the level of education of some successful people from the past we can learn that many not only have no university diplomas, but just a few years at schools. Abraham Lincoln, Benjamin Franklin, Henry Ford just a few to name. Life requires new skills every day, and that makes standard education inefficient.
    Larry Boyer, 🐝 Brand Ambassador
    08/10/2017 #13 Larry Boyer, 🐝 Brand Ambassador
    This is an interesting phenomena and one that may well be necessary as we get deeper into the 4th Industrial Revolution, with increased automation and disrupted business models. Even if you followed the "traditional" path (really just for the last 100 years) and did everything right it's still likely the company you work for will go out of business. The average time a company stays on the S&P 500 has dropped significantly in recent years. I believe the way around this for many people will be consumer electronics based entrepreneurship.
    Phil Friedman
    08/10/2017 #12 Phil Friedman
    @John White, MBA, I don't mean to belabor a point. But one of the things that concerns me most about the effect of social media on our society going forward is that so many use SM to give advice that is born not out of experience and accomplishment, but rather out of a personal hope for their own life. I tell my daughters all the time to make sure they pay attention to advice only from people who have "been there" and not from people who still only want to be there. For the latter are seeking mostly to convince themselves that the path they've chosen is the right one. And in the course of doing so often give out some of the worst advice to be found. I am sorry if that seems harsh, but it is the truth. The stats you present, John, are exceedingly useful. Thanks. And cheers!
    Preston 🐝 Vander Ven
    08/10/2017 #11 Preston 🐝 Vander Ven
    #10 Phil, I Agree. If one's path is a career that needs a degree such as a Lawyer, Doctor, Teacher and so forth, than College is a great direction. Yet, if one goal that which money is the tool to achieve it, college is the wrong direction. It is the wrong type of education, which leads to the wrong type of CashFlow Quadrant vehicle to reach that goal.
    Phil Friedman
    08/10/2017 #10 Phil Friedman
    #8 Preston, I agree that there is a huge difference between going through and getting an education. And I agree that if it is one's intention or M.O. to simply get through school while avoiding all learning, then one would likely do better to quit. But believe it or not, some people actually do find education and learning at school. Cheers!
    Phil Friedman
    08/10/2017 #9 Phil Friedman
    #5 David, I think we have to distinguish between formal education and life-education. Also between general education and vocational training. In some circumstances life-based education is better suited to fit the bill than formal education. But learning is always essential. Too often today, entrepreneurship is seen as an escape from having to work at learning. And a self-elected "entrepreneur" in search of a passion is a formula for disaster. I can't count the number of time in the last ten years I've told a would-be entrepreneur that simply being out of a job does not make you an entrepreneur. Oh BTW, I am not convinced that dropping out of school is a good thing for most simply because Zuckerberg or Jobs did. For how many of them are there in the world? Michael Jordon dropped out of college in his third year. Does that mean dropping out is a good idea? How many Michael Jordan's are there?
    Preston 🐝 Vander Ven
    08/10/2017 #8 Preston 🐝 Vander Ven
    Great Buzz. I, myself, did not even look into a path of being an entrepreneur til a few years after college. It wasn't til that point when I realized that my education really began. I graduated at almost the top of my class yet I never learned anything in college. I memorized my way through school. After I took a class, I never used that information again and went on to the next.
    When I decided to become an entrepreneur people where now teaching me Life Principles that I could share and use forever. This was unlike any thing in college. I even went back to my professors angry to ask why I was not taught this. My answer was honest and straight forward, "You came here to learn to work for someone else."
    I realized that society's Plan A has 98% failure rate yet people keep pouring so much into it. I needed my own Plan B, and C. Robert Kiyosaki's "CashFlow" showed me how to plan that.
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador
    08/10/2017 #7 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador
    Thumbs up to those who aspire to be an entrepreneur, however, I feel an education is important. Sure it's great to follow your dreams but sometimes easier said than done. A good education will set you apart from the others; lay the foundation for your dream business; be a backup plan in case you don't succeed.
    Javier 🐝 beBee
    08/10/2017 #6 Javier 🐝 beBee
    #5 @David B. Grinberg Education is important but is not a must. It is my humble opinion. Attitude over Aptitude. I can not tell you that education is not important since I studied Software Engineering and it helps me to be better in the Internet related businesses.
    David B. Grinberg
    08/10/2017 #5 David B. Grinberg
    Thanks so much, John, for sharing these important insights and astute observations on the next generation of future leaders. You provide a good window into how some of these young people are grabbing entrepreneurship by the horns and leveraging disruptive innovation to turn their bold dreams into reality.
    In essence, move over Millennials! Here comes Gen Z...
    Also, while I agree with you and @Phil Friedman (generally speaking) about kids attending and completing college, let also recall that some of the leading innovative change makers of our time -- from Steve Jobs to Mark Zuckerberg -- dropped out of college to pursue their business ventures.
    And let's also not forget about the more conventional former U.S. President, "Honest Abe" Lincoln, who successful led America through some of the toughest times in the nation's history without a college degree.
    Just playing "devil advocate" here to expand the conversation.
    What do YOU think @Javier 🐝 beBee @Larry Boyer, 🐝 Brand Ambassador @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    John White, MBA
    08/10/2017 #4 John White, MBA
    #3 Well said, Phil. For the record, my kids will be going to college and will be encouraged to pursue a graduate degree. While I admire the aspirations of the Gen Z entrepreneurs, I don't think anyone should pursue entrepreneurialism in lieu of getting an education. There is no expiration date on becoming an entrepreneur, so Gen Z shouldn't feel in a hurry to get started.
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