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Comments27/04/2017 #46 Phil Friedman#42 I agree, Michael, but would caution that, as the number of participants grows, the harder it is to herd the cats. They not only have to leave their egos at the door, but also the their propensity to speak without first reading and seeking to understand. Giving a "moderator" the tools to keep a discussion approximately on point would be essential to achieving success. IMO. Cheers!27/04/2017 #45 Javier 🐝 beBee@debasish majumder you can call it as you want. beBee publishing platform will be casuing trouble and therefore stopping something from continuing as usual ;-) Humans are social animals and bees show a great sense of teamwork and collaboration ! bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz27/04/2017 #44 debasish majumderi don't think it is disruptive, rather most appreciative, collaborative and true affinity based plat form where humility, amity and uniqueness is the key to make it the most distinct platform where without physically knowing each other, we have developed a unique bonding, waiting with alacrity when our endearing will offer us with delectable honey. lovely insight @Javier 🐝 beBee! enjoyed read and share. thank you very much for such lovely post.27/04/2017 #43 Javier 🐝 beBee#42 @Michael O'Neil I can tell you. Our collaborative publishing platform is going to be AMAZING !!!!! CC @Alberto Anaya Arcas @Federico 🐝 Álvarez San Martín @Noël De Castro García @Raul Duque Montánez @Rafael García Romano GO GO !!!! SUPER TEAM vamossssssssssssssssssss27/04/2017 #42 Anonymous#40 Phil, what this platform can evolve to is what you and Jim have demonstrated with your collaborations. If you generalize this two person collaboration to an interactive collaborative platform, rather than a sequential comment capture platform, then who knows what would emerge. One of the (implicit) rules has to be "leave your ego at the door". What I have seen in the collaborations between you and Jim has been impressive. The evolution and refinement of an idea by the contributions of two people. Scale that and the value generated could be huge. Toss in a problem. Ideas are thrown in. A practical, implementable solution begins to emerge. Crowd sourcing a solution with every contributor participating with good intent, ego set aside, to deliver the best possible solution.
Javier, that would be pretty awesome.26/04/2017 #40 Phil FriedmanAs one of the co-authors of one of the longest running collaborative content efforts on LinkedIn and later on beBee, I can assure you that both my co-author @Jim Murray and I applaud your decision to provide a tool for collaborative content development. Cheers from Grumpy and Grouchy, "HE SAID HE SAID" (now in its third consecutive year and working in its 27th installment). https://www.bebee.com/producer/@jim-murray/can-you-really-build-a-personal-brand25/04/2017 #31 Aleen 🐝 Zakka#11 Maximum affiliation among users who share the same tastes, interests and personal and professional experiences. And that's what I admire here. You enter a hive and you perfectly know that bees there will be interested to listen and learn and share their thoughts with you. I have a new description for beBee: Elevating EVERY business.. I met great people here and I talk to them almost everyday. That's the main goal of networking: Sharing same interests and grow together.25/04/2017 #28 David B. GrinbergThank you, Javier, for another brilliant and buzzing blog post. This is most definitely an exciting time to BEE on beBee in general, and writing on the Producer publishing platform in particular. I personally established beBee as my home base for blogging in April 2016 and I've been thrilled with the results ever since then. I'd go through the list of reasons why, but you already offer numerous exemplary explanations above, in addition to highlight two of my posts about why beBee is beneficial for bloggers.
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Comments27/04/2017 #1 Praveen Raj GullepalliAlways fascinating...this extraterrestrial paradigm. We in India have grown up listening to tales of Gods visiting us, even living among us and giving us secrets Flavio. In fact three of our leading deities are the indigo skinned Gods. Some even have multiple limbs and visages. We will never really know the truth but there does seem to be a lot of proof of highly advanced civilisations inhabiting Earth before the present one. In fact, we knew and were worshipping the nine planets for hundreds, maybe thousands of years...long before the telescope was even invented. It is quite possible that there may be highly advanced tech that some nations do not want the rest of the world to know about. And will use it under some pretext, or hoax, to gain supremacy one day. Survival of the fittest and most advanced.;) Maybe they will simply exhaust/deplete/destroy Earth and go to Mars! Until then, let us enjoy beBee-ing!
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Comments28/04/2017 #50 Sara Jacobovici#34 Thank you for a great @Phil Friedman response. Love the humour (note Canadian spelling) and added insight. I think I may have come to identifying (for me) what has been a challenge to communicating where I'm coming from. Disagreement is never an issue as I grew up in a home where dynamic discussions took place daily and when my brother was studying philosophy he proudly proclaimed as a result of this environment, "Conflict is the cornerstone of sanity." So I know, that it isn't our differences that is making me feel (frustrated?) I am beginning to sense that you have a very clear definition and/or understanding of "reality". Whereas, I am continually trying to navigate reality in the only way I am biologically designed to do; subjectively. And that is why metaphors are an important language for me. They often turn, what I may "think I see" (cognition dependent on the senses) upside down to ensure that I continue to explore. Even the basic instinct of preservation is subjectively defined, from our earliest beginnings. There is a devastating condition found in babies (and interestingly now also in the geriatric population) referred to as "failure to thrive". We have attempted to theorize this condition, but it is a very subjective reality. What keeps us going, however, is once we establish some sort of connection or develop a "meaning" to live, we then from relationships, groups and communities. Each grouping, too, develops its own "meaning" to survive. Thanks again for the opportunity to engage.28/04/2017 #49 Praveen Raj GullepalliEvery individual is unique. Isn't the uniqueness of finger prints amazing? But individuals must learn to co-exist with others or it will be just war and suppression, pillage and plunder, and power politics for ever. We must simply band together for the better of all and of ourselves than band together for or against others.We are mature enough to understand that there are things we must do together and things we need to do all by ourselves. We cannot lay a biofilm over everything and likewise cast someone out from a commune if he or she is weak. That would spell the worst, and would result in murder or suicide.Even the hive analogy or for that matter the fractal analogy can only apply to us to an extent. The hive where bees produce sweet honey is more of an aspirational analogy and cannot be taken literally to signify a possible human configuration.
I have waited for long for direct interactions between Ali and Gerry and Phil. Really happy to see this dialogue between such contrasting minds. Each true to his own temperament and mindset. Man can be both microscope and telescope! :) The Human Super-organism hypothesis by Phil is quite thought provoking! Resonates well with some older concepts of the human organism being a microcosm that both reflects and is connected to the entire creation. Here's to happy conversations ahead!28/04/2017 #48 Phil Friedman#44 How about "blogosphere" or "blogofog", @Gerald Hecht? Is there a choice between assimilation and mutilation? Between articulation and obfuscation? I heard that Japanese film makers would soon release "GodBloggo, the giant gizzard that ate New York City. Or was it Toronto, my loyal Tonto?28/04/2017 #47 Gerald Hecht#43 @Phil Friedman at least this guy isn't blindly conforming to the norms of the oblivious, useless cowardly "norms" of the supposedly advantageous collective: http://www.katc.com/story/35267705/naked-man-climbs-electric-tower-in-new-orleans28/04/2017 #46 Gerald Hecht#43 @Phil Friedman perhaps this is an example of what can result in an environment devoid of natural predators; perhaps the predators conjured up in the mind of a supposed dystopian human collective results in dramatic changes in the normal growth patterns of a biofilm.
I just don't see how this confers any survival advantage...perhaps a full explanation of this requires more than a comment; I CAN ASSURE YOU OF ONE THING...the line between enlightenment and oblivion is often difficult to discern:
http://www.katc.com/story/35267705/naked-man-climbs-electric-tower-in-new-orleans28/04/2017 #45 Gerald Hecht#29 @Jim Murray @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee @CityVP 🐝 Manjit...and the horror to which I refer is this: http://www.katc.com/story/35267705/naked-man-climbs-electric-tower-in-new-orleans
This isn't a biofilm! There is no hope! Actually...maybe I'm being To pessimistic; maybe it is a biofilm. Maybe the light of hope...or at least a spark will light our way!28/04/2017 #44 Gerald Hecht#29 @Jim Murray This happened here today; where does this fit into the discussion; personally, it is my feeling that the word "biofilm" is inappropriate in any attempt at explanation.
Everything is disintegrating; who will save us? How long until it's lights out for all of us??? I want answers @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I can't take it anymore @Phil Friedman @CityVP 🐝 Manjit ...nobody is doing anything; it's all a big joke apparently...28/04/2017 #43 Phil Friedman#41 What you say is true, @Gerald Hecht. And clear, to boot. I am not sure, though, that "evolution" is any kind of a science at all. But it it is, then you are correct, it surely is forensic, not predictive. But here's the thing... what if we asked mankind whether in order to survive, it is willing to mutate into a race of blind slugs eating and laying down an infinite track of primordial slime? Would humanity say yes? Would you? Or are some forms of existence not worth the pains of survival?
Consider, as well, that some survival may be purely accidental. The endangered Manatee (aka, Sea Cow) has survived apparently for eons even though it is a mild, slow-moving strict herbivore, too glacial in its movements and possibly too stupid to avoid a being chopped up by the propellers of passing boats.
Some biologists and zoologists attribute the Manatee's survival, as well as its failure to evolve, to the fact that it apparently has no natural predators. And so, supposedly, no need to evolve. Nothing to select out the weak and breed for the strong.
If a group of Manatee banded together into a collective, would they be as a group more biologically viable? Or would they just be a batch of defective evolutionary players? Cheers, my man, Gerry.28/04/2017 #41 Gerald HechtYeah...it seems that given the inevitable fact of an unknowable future...the best chance that a species has (to not become extinct), is to have as much genetic and environmental variations as possible; and preferably a little bit more.
It increases the odds that at least a couple individual members of said species will handle whatever weirdness is (no doubt) bearing down on us at this very moment...at high speed and (probably) accelerating.
The fact that can downright rattle some folks...is that evolution is a forensic science and not a predictive one...the only individuals who will know what the "right stuff" is will be the ones who are left...or so it seems to me @Phil Friedman .27/04/2017 #39 Phil Friedman#7 Ali, there is no doubt that the drive to survive moves individuals to band together for that common goal. But that does not mean that the drive for survival is the only possible organizing principle. Warriors often head into battle to protect others. Policemen and firefighters frequently put themselves into harm's way in the service of protecting and saving others. Now, you could, I suppose, argue that these actions are dictated by the collective or the group, but I am not so sure that these are not often individual decisions and actions. Cheers!27/04/2017 #37 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#36 I see what you are saying about reverse anthropomorphism because that is what I meant. In anthropomorphism we may talk of a ship as "she" and think of a ship as a human being, and I do see this applying facts and observations from non-human systems to human ones in organizing a belief system. Ideas like the "hive mind" genuinely scare me, especially when a 30 second commercial can enable group-think and of all professional groups, it is marketers that have our collective number.
Where these observations are relevant are in fields such as biomimicry. This falls more towards what Richard Feynman did, which was to observer nature for nature and see the science in it. Biomimicry is an interesting idea but like all ideas there is a potential for misuse but where it transforms creative thinking it changes how designers think about design and engineers transform those designs into new realities.
Even if we open new doors to creative thinking, there must also be an equal focus on not closing the door on critical thinking, especially since science at this time is absolutely under attack from political dogma, never mind religion. This does make learning a challenge but we can question what we learn precisely because we are individual enough to question group action.27/04/2017 #36 Phil Friedman#33 Dear CVP, I believe it impractical to unpack the comment you've made here to Dr.Anani, so at this point I will just make one observation, well really one group of observations:
You say that "we are too anthropomorphic about life and we have done this for a long time yet an inhuman individual is the sum of the group and the group itself strips the human from us." But I tend to disagree...
1) I think we too often attempt reverse-anthropomorphism, namely, trying to apply facts and observations about non-human systems to human ones. For example, looking at what happens in bee colonies or fractal developments of certain crystals and trying to apply those observations to humans, humanity, and human systems. Cont... Pt II27/04/2017 #35 Phil Friedman#33 CVP- Pt II
2) Even in the inanimate world, the group (the composite structure) can be more than simply the sum of the parts. This is a truth well supported in physics and in engineering and can be elucidated by looking at the "new science of strong materials" in which the developed load-bearing capacity of an engineered structure can be significantly greater than the sum of strength of the included components. ("The New Science of Strong Materials or Why You Don't Fall through the Floor", by J.E.Gordon, Princeton Science Library, 1980).
3) Being a member of a group does NOT necessarily "strip the human from us", for not every group is a collective with an emergent uber-entity. Groups, such as various forms of co-operatives, that are agglomerations of individuals with shared values, objectives, and goals, retain the character and quality of the members. Precisely because a member is not required to give up his or her individuality in order to be part of the group. Unlike bacteria in biofilms or bees in a colony. Or for that matter, humans being assimilated by the Borg Collective (eh, Aaron Skogen?) Thank you, CVP, for reading and commenting.27/04/2017 #34 Phil Friedman#32 Thank you, Sara, for reading and commenting, and for the very kind words. I admit to having been called a "thinker" before -- although as I remember, the spellings used were widely variant from the one you employ... and I could always tell that the people who were expressing that judgment were also teasing because, at the same time, they were suggesting to me physical exercises that are clearly anatomically impossible. :-)
Seriously, it is I who should thank you for so good-naturedly allowing me to borrow your concept of "A Stand Alone Comment".
As to metaphors, I understand what you are saying when you characterize their use as a language that enables us to communicate and move down new and different paths of thought. Fair enough. My concern, however, is always to avoid being misled by metaphors that have already been constructed or the objects of which already exist in nature. A simple example of a useful metaphor in engineering science is the behavior of water in pipes as a metaphor (model) for electricity in wires. Where voltage is compared to pressure, amperage to volume, and current to total flow (per unit time of time). You can actually predict what will happen in an electrical system when you change the gauge of wiring used by observing what happens when you vary the size of pipes in a fluid-carrying system of plumbing.
But here's the rub. Not few, if any models (metaphors) are completely isomorphic with what they model. And if you take the model (metaphor) too seriously, you will be misled and draw unsubstantiated conclusions about reality. In my example, you might infer from the plumbing model of an electrical system that if you cut an electrical cable, electricity will spill out onto the floor. Which it won't. Cheers!27/04/2017 #33 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#10 Dear @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee the most interesting thing that came out of the original flow of thoughts was the relationship between the microbial and the human within us.
That took me down an entirely new path that I had not remotely considered which is the GROUP relationship within us in our own individual bodies, which means that as a society we do the same thing, we focus on the collective vs the individual without realizing that individual means WHOLE and that the group relationship is actually within us.
The individual and group relationship within us is further exasperated that we are different in the variation of our extrovert and introvert nature. The emphasis of the group as an external "social" force outside our bodies is still towards the group and extroversion is still rewarded socially far more than introversion is.
As we move from that and back to what we are within, then that genetic traveling takes us to our DNA which is encoded through evolution of our ancestors and if our behaviours therefore also have this added colour of culture. What makes life really interesting is that there are segments of our DNA that are not active - not doing anything but have the possibility to spring into life as if evolution has trigger points. That we know so little about what works within us, it is a huge jump to think we will realize a utopia outside of us.
Finally we are too anthropomorphic about life and we have done this for a long time yet an inhuman individual is the sum of the group and the group itself strips the human from us. Damn those microbes !!!27/04/2017 #32 Sara JacoboviciFirst @Phil Friedman, let me sincerely thank you for the mention and your generous support of A Stand Alone Comment. My impression of you is that of a thinker and writer. You have reflected both in this buzz. The comments from your readers show that there are many layers (so to speak) within your post. I think I would like to just highlight what I consider the framework within which all of this is set; the use of metaphors. From my perspective, metaphors are a language, a way to communicate our thoughts and ideas. They incorporate sensory information and imagination that combined, potentially offer a new way of seeing things. It isn't too much of a stretch for us humans to look at nature, other species and organisms, to make sense of our biological identity. What makes us humans interesting is that nothing that is simple and straight forward in the world of nature applies to us. Everything in nature is based on survival; clear cause and effect and innate programming and design to do all that is needed to survive.. When it comes to us humans, we ask, which survival; physical, emotional, social, spiritual? We have examples of human survival that "in fact" should not have taken place while at other times, in spite of everything being in place, an individual does not survive. Then there is the paradox of us biologically being dependent on others while fighting tooth and nail (literally) to form our unique and individual identities separate from those on whom we depend. For me, metaphors are a way of trying to make sense of things that don't readily fall into place. Thank you Phil for the opportunity to engage and share opinions.27/04/2017 #31 Phil Friedman#26 Harvey, as you can see by my reply to @Jim Murray below, your definition is more one the order of what I would call a "co-operative". I personally reserve my definition of "collective" -- which obviously you are free to accept or reject, although it makes little difference to the discussion which you choose -- for existential entities probably best designated as well by the term "super-organism". The "collective" is an emergent synergistic entity whose existence is separate and distinct and other than simply the sum total of the existences of the organisms components. Cheers!
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