- 21/06/2017Richard Branson is great - do you know that I borrowed five pounds from him in 02/03..... I think the interest will be interesting. Basically in order to pay back the debt I need to become - a regular traveller on the Joburg to Baton Rouge flight....
Comments21/06/2017 #5 Gerald Hecht#2 @Claire L Cardwell the Virgin guy? Didn't he by Rolling Stones Records, LLC? Taking us to space he told us --on the Virgin station...yea that was him ...beard...calls his self Branson --let's us drown down here just cause we'd rednecks an never learnt to swim ...or maybe it was read; never learnt to read...yeah, that's him :" BIG FRIGGIN LI INFLUENCER" rahyt? Yeah cause he done be a leader brand; and mah ma could only afford to feed us lead chips --we calls it white dirt down in these parts...I don't why...no one makes me a leader or a Influencer even tho everyone who knows me knows I've been a professional impressionist writer working in lead ink calligraphy since God put my fingernails on them tablets up on that mountain with that breeze so friggin chilly...1) "Thall Shalt get the Virgin guy to pay you back" 2) blah, whatever...let's ring him up --he still rides up top on 747's
- 07/06/2017#ToddRundgrenTodd Rundgren - Berklee Commencement Address 2017 Songwriter, producer, recording artist, and pioneer of multimedia and computer technology, Todd Rundgren addresses the class of 2017 at Berklee's...
Comments19/06/2017 #14 Gerald Hecht#13 @Renée 🐝 Cormier yeah and the key was...I remember those turntables has 4 speeds 1) 78rpm, 2) 45rpm, 3) 33 1/3rpm, and 4) THE SECRET MUSIC TEACHER... 16rpm!
So whenever I wanted to learn a guitar part, or whatever...just put the LP on and set it to 16rpm...until I heard the "ratio/construct thingie"...for solos...the "final exam" would be to set it to 45rpm and see if you could keep up....that's when my parents thought I was on hallucinogens, lol --listening to "Alvin and the Chipmunks"...19/06/2017 #12 Gerald Hecht#11 @Renée 🐝 Cormier listening is the only way I know how to learn to play songs and what instrument (s) to best play them on; when I was kid I took piano lessons and I got good grades for reading and playing songs (according to the competition judging sheets...but --I never heard those songs... I still haven't heard some of them....then, years later I would hear songs that I really liked...was I supposed to go get the sheet music? That makes no sense...does it?18/06/2017 #8 Gerald Hecht#6 @Renée 🐝 Cormier yeah, the hard part is "forgetting" how to read it (at least when listening to it); I've always thought that the only "necessary and sufficient thingie" that defines being a musician is 1) learning to listen to it, and 2) there isn't anything other than "1)".
That may sound "funny"...but I'm increasingly convinced that's the whole thing .17/06/2017 #6 Renée 🐝 CormierNice message. Like him, I have also feel that education should be a continuous process. It saddens me to see people not continue learning throughout their lives.
Also, I find it interesting that he never learned to read music, I don't feel so bad now. It's always been a source of embarrassment for me. My father was a violinist and all my siblings can read music. As the last born of five, I didn't get the same encouragement with music as the others. Boo hoo, right? :)17/06/2017 #5 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#4 Yep, he began his speech with honesty rather than some acted out false modesty, shared experiences of life that were genuine rather than scripted moments but also revealed his strengths in a "I'm good in those areas way" such as his music producer background, got two well deserved rounds of applause about 2 values that are important to him and he was not putting out agent-assisted personal brand like some grease monkey. I could talk to that kind of guy all day long and not tire of the conversation. We tend to band out that word authentic a lot - but we know it when we see it and in this particular speech we saw it.17/06/2017 #3 CityVP 🐝 ManjitVery good speech, great humility, great lesson about perseverance, and how passions that others may not liked at the time can become pivotal life moments and ultimately in setting up the journey for learning (of course I completely resonate with Rundgren here) and that is what a good commencement speech should do and deliver. It even made me want to commence something. That is after all is the point of all commencement speeches, that lives shall commence. Those lives include us and not just graduating students.
- 25/04/2017Take Your PickThe Beatles Or The Stones...HMM?www.linkedin.com Once upon a time there was an A&M/Promotions guy at Decca Records UK Division who passed on signing a "guitar group from Liverpool" in 1962,...
- Producer05/04/2017The Writer's Muse & Where It LivesWriters and artists talk often about their muse. The person or thing that buoys their spirit and allows them to take their work to new levels and all that good stuff.My wife Heather started off being my muse. She would read my work and tell me how...
Comments06/04/2017 #16 Gerald Hecht#15 @Phil Friedman admittedly...the nature of that which separates the two (if indeed they not be but two sides of a single coin...whose worth is set by an "anchor" of our own experience/expectation); be narrow...perhaps it was the doppelganger of Edward...a mere century ago --who disguised as muse; is now revealed as Siren screaming "yoko-like" from a distant shore...Make America great such that it never need remaking in vain folly of "being make great again"...the Fuddler now striketh me as well...as in Dylan's storied Peddler; stepping into the road.06/04/2017 #14 Gerald Hecht#12 @Jim Murray heavy Indeed is the head wearing many hats...oh, FWIW...based on a tip someone gave me a few minutes ago, I have started wearing only one hat at a time...they said that the pain in my neck would probably go away Of its own accord within a matter of days...I'll keep you posted!06/04/2017 #13 Gerald Hecht#10 @Phil Friedman the fuddler seems to bee very persistent --in my own experience as well; I'm pretty sure my fuddler is the doppelgänger of Liz I... I know she's up there now; trying to distract me: "take a coffee break" she is saying; "come on, surely you know I am but an early spring robin, surely you hear me assembling my nest in the eaves above you; surely you do mistake the curious scratching for a fuddler tuning up the old strings".
I want to scream aloud : "I'm trying to produce some honey; and stop calling me Shirley!"06/04/2017 #10 Phil Friedman#8 @Gerald Hecht, my only contact with the doppelganger of the latest Queen Elizabeth is by inference. Since the quote is "WE are not a-mused," and I can only see one person speaking, I have to infer that there is a second queen existing in some hidden or parallel universe to which Her Majesty was referring. For you see, with all due respect to @Jim Murray, I don not have a muse, but I do have a fuddler (on the roof) and am constanly bee-fuddled. :-)06/04/2017 #9 Kevin PashukJust this side of insanity... you've pretty much summed up my life Jim.
I admire your poetic/lyrical side. I'm more of a story teller and my muse is what I observe around me. As for poems... I will never earn a living off them... Here's my best so far. "My dog is small. My dog is little. On our rug she likes to piddle."06/04/2017 #8 Gerald Hecht#5 @Phil Friedman just to interject briefly...but --I wanted to make sure it wasn't just me --because I assumed that the the Doppelgänger of one of the "Queen Elizabeth's" (and we all know which one --we don't have to have a show of hands on that particular bit of minutiae) is probably best known for her historical (yet seemingly royal) record (as of this moment, still unbroken) of refusing to serve as muse for anyone working in any of the arts...in fact, to my knowledge, the historical record shows that no artist has ever explicitly named said doppelgänger as a muse.06/04/2017 #7 Randall BurnsGreat post @Jim Murray, I didn't really start writing until a couple of years ago and I initially thought it was my work, (Chef), and "Significant Other" that were my Muse but your statement of "And so I cut her loose from her muse duties and went off on my own" that crystallized in my mind that while these aspects were absolute inspirations for me, a writer's muse is really anything which evokes an emotional reaction. Wonderful line of, "just this side of insanity", seems like the closer that we get to there, the more we write...06/04/2017 #6 Jim Murray@Phil Friedman. Thanks bud. I was thinking about that poem the night before I did this post. It was at the very bottom of the pile. Of about 100 or so from that period (1972). I was also please to find several more structured pieces which I can turn into lyrics.
So it was a good trip down memory lane.06/04/2017 #5 Phil Friedman@Jim Murray, I think this is one of your best musings. In my experience, the writer who has a muse never runs out of topics about which to write. Which is why Queen Elizabeth was pretty dull as a writer, since she said in a famous statement that she and her royal doppelganger were not a-mused.05/04/2017 #1 Gert Scholtz@Jim Murray A gem of a post Jim. That muse or creative force that drives and motivates the writer - cannot be better said: "It was messy. It was angry. It was elegant. It was beautiful. It was a scream or a whisper. It was the sound of rain on the roof or the hypnotic chaos of an overhead argument. It was cacophony of the city streets. It was the splashing of a wave against the shore. It was the symphony that played in your head when a thought crystallized. It was the murmur of the world as it vibrated in your ear from all directions."
- Producer04/04/2017Take this algorithm and shove it!Forty years ago Donald Lytle (a.k.a. Johnny Paycheck recorded ‘Take this job and shove it’. (http://tinyurl.com/kvnynlo)The country & honky tonk artist, (born in that hotbed of country music Greenfield, Ohio) was more than a one-hit wonder but...
Comments05/04/2017 #62 Paul KemnerCredit scores in the US are an example of this. Theoretically they rate how well you pay your bills. But they're designed to rate if you're a good little consumer robot instead. If you only have one credit card, or if you use that card exclusively- down goes your score. If you cancel a store credit card (perhaps in protest of their behavior)- your score goes down. If you pay off your bill in full every month, or pay off your car loan to save interest- that'll get you a bad rating.
Even if you're not applying for a loan, insurance companies use your credit score to determine how much to charge you for home or auto insurance.05/04/2017 #60 Todd JonesHi Don... I can't tell whether John Vaughan's comments are in the context of "inside joke" fraternal ballbusting similar to the typical banter between Phil Friedman and Jim Murray, or whether he is using this post to grind an ax. If it is the latter, don't be disheartened. This post touches on an important subject that reaches much further than blog views. As both you and @Sandra 🐝 Smith note, these programs have the potential to cause genuine harm in the form of often inexplicable credit scores and insurance company ratings.
Frequently, it seems like these programs are written only to provide banks and insurers a means to extract higher fees and interest rates. And good luck trying to find a human representative that is willing or able to explain such algorithm based mysteries. Courtesy of Credit Karma, I have watched my own credit score steadily fall during the past three months while my income rose and debt shrank, with no evidence of identity theft. According to their credit score simulator, the only way for me to raise it is to apply for an additional $50,000 in unsecured credit.
Great post, and by the way, count me as one of your 80,000 or 80 or 20 or 8 readers. I appreciate the time that each talented writer takes in generating the excellent content found on beBee.05/04/2017 #59 Chas ✌️ WyattWell, Badass Betty, I am on the same page as you. I actually seen Johnny Paycheck; I believe he was the opening act for Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge (back when they were married). The algorithm that gets me the most, is Amazon's; more so than even Google. If I am surfing the web and then go to Amazon, or vice versa, the ads I see relate to what I was looking at- Big Brother, anyone? Like you, the stats don't hold much weight for me, however they may be calculated. I do remember struggling to make it through college Algebra, but, I did it, even though I would be hard-pressed to remember any time that I actually used it since I graduated. I prefer relevance, dialogue and interaction to numbers, anyway. Nice piece.05/04/2017 #58 Javier 🐝 beBeeAs we are evolving towards a world driven by algorithms and technology, a lot of marketers fear that robots will take over their job and that machines will replicate humans. But...... Creativity is still in the hands of humans. It is about having that big idea. To then transfer a creative idea into a successful product/service, that is where algorithms and technology step in.
Building strong brands will more than ever be relevant, just as getting a true connection with your consumers. A strong brand remains everything.
Do you struggle to get your posts seen by your network?
Take those algorithms and shove them ! After working hard for years on building your network, it is very frustrating that you can not reach all of your followers.
Reach 100% of your followers on beBee !05/04/2017 #56 Devesh 🐝 BhattWe all should feel lucky that the combination of marketing, people and group effort has resulted in an amazing bebee experience.
But before the luck runs out and after a certain threshold of growth when the competition turns dirty, one will have to have clarity on the distinct features and functions that no other platform can give. When subject to scrutiny, we are still highly vulnerable.
Algorithms have served as a critical input for human progress, arent we being tough on it rather than the context in which it has been used?
I really like your writing and i would say writers and content have been the usp of bebee till now. But each has a niggling small doubt in the back of the heads which seems unimportant right now.
I would say that people here have been very polite or poor in scratching the surface of that doubt, but it indicates a lot needs to be done.
That is another way of saying that your focus ln the positives would inspire many readers to dish out more quality content.05/04/2017 #53 Jerry FletcherDon, You had me at "shove it." I always liked the blue collar badass viewpoint of the song. And over the years I've seen it used for all kinds of rants but I've never seen it linked to a Muslim Conspiracy. You know, of course, that those same fellers are responsible for Arabic Numerals? Just remember that Murray's latest contains an algorythm, too (mispelling intended).05/04/2017 #48 John Vaughan#44 "Sensitive"...? Shoot, Don. Here I thought I was just being clever. Aside: I don't believe anyone really cares what you choose to "jones" on - tho they might wonder why you go to that rather extreme druggie metaphor when you're feeling defensive. Even so, I wouldn't accuse you of being 'sensitive'.
Anyhoo: Guess I'll go hang out with the Boring Old Smart Kids now on Boring Old LinkedIn. Or my fellow Stoners. Or maybe even The Arteestes. In the meanwhile, Enjoy hangin' out with the Cheerleaders.
Hey, I EARN my negative votes when I visit the Popular Kids' Table.04/04/2017 #44 Don 🐝 Kerr#37 Damn but you sure are sensitive. I think you contribute many smart things here and I read your analyses with great interest. I just don't jones on the stats as much as maybe I should. And, to answer @Robert Bacal, if the stats were actually only 800 people reading? Well, that's 800 more than me and my immediate family.04/04/2017 #41 Javier 🐝 beBeebeBee works for you. beBee works for everyone !
Congratulations to all of you ! You got a BEE flag rewarding our most active bees ! Olé Olé Olé !
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- 03/04/2017It's Like Deja Vu All Over Again...You Make The Coffee; I'll Get The Generator Going
- 02/04/2017This article BY MAX CARTER on LinkedIn demonstrates why it is so important to recognize that claiming to have substantiating evidence for certain assertions IS NOT THE SAME as actually having and presenting such purported evidence. Beyond that, it is a matter of "Res Ipsa Loquitur"...
,,, with thanks and kudos to @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher for drawing attention to this article in her recent beBee post, "Why It's Not Professional To Openly Dis Other Networks and People "Why I really left beBeewww.linkedin.com beBee.com is home of spam marketing. Just look at Linkedin and Twitter and you can see the shameless self promotion everywhere. In fact according...
Comments04/04/2017 #22 Gerald Hecht#17 a deposition/witness "thingie" for me...in that case, the process of discovery in our legal system would allow for "subpoena duces tecum requests" to be honored.
Bottom line; he is "lurking by proxy" and when part II of the "now you see him, now you don't thingie" happens...
...innocent bees will be hurt.
Several people here have come to his defense, several people (including myself) who know "what's what" have spoken up...but (not surprisingly in situations involving this type of AXIS II "engagement" the overwhelming majority --will say nothing; in fact it's a hallmark that helps with the "differential".
The "Why I Quit beBee Manifesto" itself is full of the requisite quantity and quality of "RES IPSA LOQUITUR"
information.04/04/2017 #21 Gerald Hecht#17 and (sorry --I don't wanna go over the character limit), @Gloria 🐝 🐾 💫 ☕ (Glo) Ochoa and he is one of those DSM "tough ones" (in the grey area of "Axis II land") where Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Sociopathic Personality Disorder, and Borderline Personality Disorder all intersect.
Knowing that I have no information regarding his Axis I stuff and the only Axis III material are his self-reports on having cured his own congenital medical problems, etc...so even that (A self report from a very severe Axis II case doesn't meet the standard for evidence required by science)
would require actual medical files, etc.
I think you can see the logistical hurdles --talk about a colossal waste of energy --unless someone has been hurt and is taking legal action and officially requested04/04/2017 #20 Gerald Hecht#17 @Gloria 🐝 🐾 💫 ☕ (Glo) Ochoa (continued...lol) Wow, I just inadvertently did a "mini-demo" of it myself (I think the illusionist's term is still a variation of: "now you see me --now you don't"!).
Unfortunately, even here, there are people who fall for this kind of silliness...the reason I feel that's it's important enough to "warn people/waste a little of my own energy" in this case is because, I've always had "the knack" when it comes to "nailing" the correct Differential Diagnosis (Dx) (in medical model terminology/deductive logic) in the fields of Psychological/Psychiatric pathology.
His is a particularly dangerous case.
If, I were asked to be a forensic witness; there is already more than enough material (in his "virtual file in the cloud") to make such an informed differential04/04/2017 #19 Gerald Hecht#17 okay , I'm back @Gloria 🐝 🐾 💫 ☕ (Glo) Ochoa...where was I? Yes, okay --wasting energy on attempts by sociopaths like Max J. Carter (founder, executive vice-president of shamanistic operations, chief author of "marching order thingies", and [apparently] the playlist compiler in chief), Donald J. Trump, etc., only (at best) results in a temporary reduction in one's own energy...and then yo gotta take a nap or go for another run.
It's especially silly in his case (he, of course, referring to Max J. Carter, VP of Faux Shaman Operations of "The Church of Rock and Roll") here's why:
In this case, for example, he hasn't gone anywhere!
It's a really old magician/illusionist trick (to be continued)...04/04/2017 #16 Gerald Hecht#14 @Andrew Books All I see is the darkness of the 100 atmospheries --crushing my shell IN THE UTTER, ETERNAL ISOLATION --at the depths which I, and I alone...have sentenced myself to --it's funny --everyone else --every one of you (save for me) will never sink lower than rock bottom...in a worst case scenario...but for the wretched creature I have become...
...there is no mere rock bottom...a spiritual trampoline from which ascendency awaits in her purest form as potential future realities...not yet imagined...let alone realized...BUT NOT ME...I DELIBERATELY CHOSE TO FORCE MY WAY THROUGH ROCK BOTTOM. DEEPER, DEEPER, DEEPER.
I look up at the glorious light of rock bottom and cry out thus:
----04/04/2017 #15 Gerald Hecht#13 @Dean Owen You are so correct; and especially to engage in such behaviors behind the person's back...the shame and guilt that has replaced ...everything that (at one time) I potentially could have been.
I realize that it is far too late; but I am human, I have erred...I don't expect that anyone (especially Shaman Max) will ever understand what I have said and done here...let alone forgive me...
...the only thing I can offer; indeed, have to offer --in the vain hope of (someday) being understood --is this tribute; this message in a bottle if the spirit be willing...this will find you...on the (hopefully) greener pastures you and your beloved flock have found:
Godspeed and may peace be with you...03/04/2017 #12 Gerald Hecht#10 WHAAT?! This is heavt sarcasm yes? Ye Gods...@Jim Murray @Phil Friedman ...is this a practical joke?
We had another bad "weather event" here in the middle of the night and I got hit in the head by a piece of a tree or something: http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/weather_traffic/article_8aa17c7e-17b5-11e7-9836-3bbfe5e19975.html
--and I am sorry that I'm not feeling well enough to laugh real well about that sociopath right now; ordinarily I would. You know that.03/04/2017 #10 AnonymousIt really is to bad we lost a good bee. I am not justifying his actions but I believe that Max is getting partly what he set out to do...get people talking about his post and to share it. (Just noticing as an observation -- I recently finished reading about making posts go #viral). And, is not social media one's outlet for venting---regardless if it is true or not, HE sees it as true as he believes it. Anyone with a lick of salt will take what anyone says (good or bad) and determine for themselves what they what to do, believe or say. #LongLivebeBee03/04/2017 #9 Gerald Hecht#8 @Don 🐝 Kerr that's where I come in, I guess --as a member of the Intelligence Agency; I am not limited by the "political/protocol thingie"...I can just report the facts...the hard part part (naturally) is knowing that an objective fact reporter is in much the same position as a responsible member of the judiciary...if you're doing your job well --then (by definition)
"50% of the people will hate you 100% of the time, and/or, point out what appear to be self-contradictory statements --when the entire service record is reviewed , in a linear fashion, from start to finish.
But I've learned that the matrix can more tell me nothing of my worth, nor can my idiomatic "grammatical errors" tell inform the quality/worth of my observations.
They can only result in a lot of material circled in a red sharpie and no "auto-bee-emoji" appearing in my profile.
I think I'll live, lol!03/04/2017 #8 Don 🐝 KerrPot calling kettle black. The first two lines are prime examples of alternative fact. The last line - well I leave it to you to deduce the relevance. Consider the source as my Mom used to teach me. Will not be missed. "The beBee Brand Ambassadors are sent emails telling them what content to push. The content being pushed is always the celebrating beBee content. If beBee was a human being it would be stark raving narcissist."03/04/2017 #6 Jim MurrayOne of the last comments I made to Max Carter after the fiasco that cost him his ambassadorship was that he should probably be working for the Trump administration because his modus operandi of accusation without evidence was right in line with their strategy. I would have reiterated this statement on his post, except he has disabled the comments. Guess he's not really into hearing differing points of view. Or maybe he just would rather live in his own weird little world.....emphasis on little. I know a number of people supported him and I got where he was coming from philosophically. But I also felt that all this was about, in great part, ego gratification and control. Mercifully there are only a few of those beasts in my life these days. I hope there are none in yours.03/04/2017 #4 Mark Anthony@Gerald Hecht & @Phil Friedman the rattling of ones cage goes way beyond Pavlov and the ringing of the bell shall ring and ring. As Phil said " Why would you want to wear the shoe" Someone has really got very thingy bobby mijiibied . ""Res Ipsa Loquitur" Oh dear oh dear, if so then "Why where the shoe" No proof of intent? Or just thingy bob stuff, special words and intelectual , scientific , evidence based treatmement. Like the ones all manner of treatment services claim are "Evidence-based practice. ...2
- 02/04/2017A little song, a little dance --a little Nobel Prize down your pants.
You know what? I done asked God when the Democrats and the Republicans will finally start working together...and God says to me..."Not in my lifetime".
- 02/04/2017Picked up his Nobel...I guess it makes sense;he was in town anyway --it would would be wasteful to make an extra trip.Bob Dylan - One More Cup Of Coffee (Live 1975 ) Music video by Bob Dylan performing "One More Cup Of Coffee" from unreleased concert footage, November/December...
Comments02/04/2017 #2 Gerald Hecht#1 @Paul Walters no he had two shows booked in Stockholm (they really were booked before he knew he won the prize...like a year before); he still does over 200 shows/year ; and has done so since like 1988 or something...anyway, the real reason he didn't accept it at the time it was awarded is because that was during THE ONE TWO WEEK HIATUS from the road this year...which he used to record his latest album! It was just released yesterday I think (the day after he picked up the Nobel and did the second Stockholm show. http://www.songkick.com/artists/408511-bob-dylan
He's busier than all of us combined!
- 01/04/2017You are getting very sleepy...your eyelids are getting very heavy...you are finally going home...peace soon...going home...no place like home...no place lik......Key Component of Sleep Inducing Herb Identifiedwp.me Summary: An active compound in the leaves of Ashwagandha can help to induce sleep and could be helpful in the treatment of insomnia, a new study reports.Source: University of Tsukuba.Can't...
- 01/04/2017We mustn't make assumptions --unless we are prepared (literally and figuratively) to test them.Psychic Or Psychoticwww.linkedin.com Imagine if you will: A person who happens to be both an accomplished musician and a skilled craftsman; (able to make exquisite Woodwind instruments...
- Producer24/03/2017On Producer Posts; Statistics Versus EngagementMysterious --yet who can deny it's tangibility?There is no yardstick --no altimeter to inform/quantify the distance twixt engagement's eternal meaning ....resonating, quivering subjective sensationsand...... the sea level atmospheric pressure at...
Comments03/04/2017 #47 Gerald Hecht#46 @Praveen Raj Gullepalli Ithat is what I put, haha --didn't even know what was going on; what a mess...not as bad as last August or the hurricanes ...as far as I can tell; but I can't tell much...I opened the door; half asleep, after the alert went off...and something hit me in the head; part of a tree or something; time to "take the old fashioned mental health day"...02/04/2017 #42 Gerald Hecht#40 @Praveen Raj Gullepalli I (if it's okay) do want to PM you with some questions...I can already tell that I've gotten upset just thinking about some of these issues... I actually was fairly balanced until hearing about exploitation of Ayurvedic wisdom...it's the same feeling as someone claiming to be a ___; I'll be in touch.02/04/2017 #41 Gerald Hecht#40 @Praveen Raj Gullepalli it's the habitat damage and (Heaven Forbid) the shortage, extinction of these precious plant gifts which (as you know) are only one part of the system of Ayurvedic Medicine that is the most heartbreaking thing I can imagine. Anecdotally, the view that "Western Medicine" is the only medicine is ubiquitous in my neck of the woods.I really yearn "to go back to school" (in the truest sense) toward the goal of really learning this from a real master...and (again in my neck of the woods) I don't even know where to start.
I have always been drawn to everything about it as a healing approach ; the Dosha balancing principles (the way the number 3 is used as a foundation to the initial "diagnosis" (type)...the balancing of potential "2 on 1" imbalances as the cause of "losing one's ease" thus putting one in a state of dis-ease; the "default" being ease.
In a fundamental way "Western" Medicine/biomedical research is insane...the initial assumption (when you visit a physician) is that SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU...it's just a question of finding out what...the whole idea is INSANE...the more you think about it, yet that is the whole FOUNDATION OF MEDICAL SCHOOL --find out and treat the thing that's broken.
In Ayurvedic, the initial assumption is that NOTHING is wrong with you.
They don't teach "how to diagnose health) in medical school. If you go to a physician...you will leave with a prescription (Rx), a Diagnosis (Dx), a Prognosis (Px)...if that's not crazy, I don't know what is...I do know what my people in my age group (who have bought into that "Western" thing) look and act like ...and it's usually different from how I look and act (based on comments overheard, and I was going to insert an "lol" here...02/04/2017 #40 Praveen Raj Gullepalli#38 LOL Gerry...Cindy is no lauping matter...oops..I mean laughing matter ;) Heck, even my Grandma (may she be at peace) loved her songs. Ayurveda is an ancient healing tradition and there is lots that is yet untapped in tomes pertaining to that natural treasure. Glad that some research is still on somewhere on it. I met a person in Delhi recently who actually is consulted when some proprietary ayurvedic remedies do not work as expected. He told me that he has a concoction for curing blood cancer and even HIV. One never knows! Had profit not been the overt and ulterior motive of most pharmaceutical companies am sure humanity could have been rid of all maladies long ago. I wonder how many rare herbs have already become unknown, inaccessible or extinct as on date. Always good to hear from you...PM or otherwise. ;)01/04/2017 #38 Gerald Hecht#37 oh @Praveen Raj Gullepalli I must groan out loud; I set myself up for that one --bigtime ;-)
BTW, I saw a cool study on some of the properties of Ashwagandha...I've always known that one is a very special one...to the point that I don't go around advoc...well; the study is really just a "scratching the surface" but --if it helps someone who has never heard of it before...it's a good deed...right? You can lead a horse to the thingie and all that..(whoa, the word horse even found its way in...wasn't preplanned) --you know I really don't think that I was born into the proper geopolitical...whatever; sorry it's no good complaining --recent developments here are so strange...automatically has been drawing me to trying to figure out what I must have done wrong on my last spin of the wheel.
You know that Todd Rundgren song about karma --the one called "the wheel"? The opening lines are something like:
"some people think life's like a merry go round...I think it's more like a ferris wheel; sometimes you're up, sometimes you're down, sometimes ya just don't know what to feel"
anyway I'm rambling like this is a PM or something -- sorry.
That was a good one though...a "Cindy Lauper zinger"...never saw it coming, lol!01/04/2017 #36 Gerald Hecht#32 @CityVP 🐝 Manjit Yes --sometimes "abscissa" is code for Cyndi Lauper's storied Horizontal "She Bop" of old...umm; oh yeah...I almost forgot...I think the poetic image I was shootin' for was the "curvature of the earth thingie" (the mast of "the distant ship on the horizon"...(static)...you are..(static)...only coming through in ...aves...y...r lip...move...but ...what...say"...failure of Euclidean Geometry/Cartesian Plane ....flat earth....no...t acceptable (static)...alterna...do you copy..."Ahh Houston...Columbus here...we are having a little prob...thruster contr...
....01/04/2017 #32 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI tried to find out what abscissa is before I did anything and the definition that came back was "In mathematics, an abscissa is the number whose absolute value (modulus) is the perpendicular distance of a point from the vertical axis. Usually this is the horizontal coordinate of a point in a two-dimensional rectangular Cartesian coordinate system.
Now I know my abscissa from my ordinate I can now see the point, except I think the whole statistical-engagement thing has less to do with precise fields like mathematics and much more to do with subjective fields like sexuality, where engagement is telling people to look at how big our graph is and that in turn creates new meaning to "the shrinking distance between the crow's nest of the mast".
This also explains why people have lost interest in the depth of mathematics and long-form media; instead embracing the relative sizing of comparing candycrush scores, shared starfucking minutia, saying obvious things to soundbites of throwaway quotes and most importantly, exhibiting our throbbing (and therefore numerically engaging) social graph.
Where yesterday there was meaning, today there are marketers. Yes, marketers have the barometer to all of this shivering but engaging quivering.
- 31/03/2017Marketing beBee off-site using the concept of the "Triple 100 Guaranty", developed by Phil Friedman with copywriting by Phil Friedman and graphic art by @Jim Murray. Posted on LinkedIn, Facebook, Google+, and via link on Twitter. http://tinyurl.com/kymuvgn
Comments02/04/2017 #52 Gerald Hecht#49 @Phil Friedman yeah, I think that umm that can be true many times...that umm..that point you made to the Marshall.
I know that once we had umm...well I'm just gonna come flat out and say it: "Rustlers is what they was...you know ...comin' for my emus and such with uhh......you know they was carrying big ass 10 gauge double barreled shotguns and they weren't fillin'' them things with rocksalt...and I done explained it --tone told the whole tale to umm first the deputy...then to the Marshall himself...and he was like
..."listen son...jes settle down and listen; cause you're reading more into this than is real; blah, blah...strangers jes passin' through...don't mean you no harm...blah, blah...now you think hard son before you badmouth these strangers"...and then he looks me dead bang straight on..straight on in...right through my eyes and says:
"Now you don't want folk around town tellin' each other that the think you might have a screw comin' loose...you don't want that goin' on behaynd your back...when yous trahyin' to got your sleep...folk saying that kahynd of thing, in the tavern ...at nyhat..when you's in yer bed tryin for some rest after a hard day with yous invisible emu farm"
Well...ah bet you can guess the rest...to me; that Marshall and his "deputies"...they'sas guilty as dem rustlers!02/04/2017 #50 John Vaughan#49 I think old Marshall would've agreed that a discussion of the medium can often be the message.
"You know nothing of my work!"
-- MM in "Annie Hall"
"If life were only like this."
-- Woody Allen in "Annie Hall"
"Lah de dah, Lah de dah"
-- Diane Keaton in "Annie Hall"
That said, @Robert Bacal's analysis and point are both valid and relevant. And ... he sort of *is* agreeing with you, @Phil Friedman01/04/2017 #46 Phil FriedmanFor the record, I don't see anywhere in this update any representation that it refers to an "article". Rather, it is clearly presented as a stand-alone posting, which follows a decades long precedent on LinkedIn and, for a shorter period, here on beBee. The update does refer to a posting by @Jim Murray on LinkedIn of the meme in question. Which is reproduced using a screen shot image because getting a link to work from LinkedIn was not possible. Just another case of creating a straw man to criticize. Cheers!01/04/2017 #45 John Vaughan#44 Yup, Yup, and Yup, @Robert Bacal.
More related and - as we like to say here on beBee - [relevant] analysis at
"The Magic Marker Exercise"
https://jcvtcsblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/the-magic-marker-exercise/ View more#44 Yup, Yup, and Yup, @Robert Bacal.
More related and - as we like to say here on beBee - [relevant] analysis at
"The Magic Marker Exercise"
"Priming the Pump"
I don't "do' analysis on beBee any more - or publish articles here. (Lack of the Value Proposition.) But it's a pleasure - and a refreshing change -to see actual critical thinking in operation here.
Continue, please. Close01/04/2017 #43 John Vaughan#41 Bingo, @Robert Bacal. Thanks for a calm, accurate, well-reasoned analysis of marketing blather and Big Shallow Numbers. Repeat, as needed.
"By the Numbers" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@john-vaughan/bebee-vs-linkedin-by-the-numbers01/04/2017 #42 Javier 🐝 beBee#38 thanks @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA for your support.
beBee is an engagement-based community. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/bebee-an-engagement-based-community
Thanks everyone for being so active on beBee!01/04/2017 #40 Phil Friedman#38 I have to disagree, Anne, in some respects. It is a fact the the greater the readership to which a piece is initially exposed, the higher the level of engagement will be -- expressed as an absolute number and not a percentage. When I published pieces that wer picked up by an LI Pulse feature channel and initially exposed to hundreds of thousands potential readers, I racked up views of around 10,000 or more, with likes, comments and shares totaling in the thousands. And at times, I picked up "followers"!by the hundreds in a single fell swoop. Cont Pt II ...01/04/2017 #39 Phil Friedman#38 Anne - Pt II - Right now my "engagement" on LI is running, in absolute numbers, only about 10% behind beBee, for the same article, although the "clicks" accumulating are, on average less than 10 % of those indicated on beBee, sometimes only one or two hundred for a given post on LI.
But we still don't know what that delta means -- because we don't know on what basis a beBee view is registered. It would be easy for beBee management to tell us that and put the question to rest. But to date, it hasn't. And it appears not to want to. My question is why won't it?
Cheers!01/04/2017 #38 Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA#28 People always bring up this business of how does LinkedIn measure views vs LInkedIn.
There is no measurement that would account for the difference between 26 views on LinkedIn and 2.9K views on beBee. What I always say is, "Okay let's take views off the table and look at engagement."
When there is no or virtually no engagement on LinkedIn and active engagement when the identical content is posted on beBee, clearly it isn't the content that is the problem.01/04/2017 #35 Gerald Hecht#23 @Anne Thornley-Brown I'm not sure...but if it does qualify; can I state that there is at least one qualified candidate that is sort of aware of my existence? I think in...umm... index number #32 I stated that there were 0. If I could update that to 1, I would be much obliged...if not; I understand. I do realize the gravity of the request.
- Producer30/03/2017A brAIve New WorldThis article has been inspired by David Grinberg, who asked the question. Technology has permeated every corner of our world. The product of our collective intellect now comes full circle – the interface of human consciousness with...
Comments08/04/2017 #59 Ian WeinbergNever fear @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee Technology will never replace the human brain nor this thing called 'consciousness' Technology may enhance the linear, data aspects, some of the reasoning capability and provide algorithms to diminish destructive/limiting beliefs, but it is unlikely to ever replicate the creativity, sensitivity, emotions and awe of our right hemispheres. See a previous buzz https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ian-weinberg/the-mushy-brain-mystery08/04/2017 #58 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBeeIn my work with the senses, I sense we are discovering new ways to access intelligence that nurtures our wholeness. So if we have had trauma in life we can apply our whole sensory capacities to healing and re-creating the way we are in the world. So, if AI is becoming more intelligent my wish is that humans also develop our intelligence beyond the current limitations of the logical and the rational.08/04/2017 #57 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBeeDear @Ian Weinberg do you want this to happen? Or, do you think there is nothing we can do, it is happening anyway? I may be naive, but humans create computers, and a computer can only do what we have inputted surely? Whilst we marvel at how computers synthesise data, humans and all living entities also process and synthesise much data that we are not conscious of. I am curious as I keep reading about AI as if it is going to be better than the intelligence held in the living universe. We are still studying nature, living systems and transferring the incredible intelligence of living systems to computers. So what am I missing - to me it is still the living universe that is the marvel, that has the unlimited capacity for intelligence. Now I think AI is great. I love the way we have moved from computers and machines that were purely mechanical, to now have "living" qualities such as sensory capacities. My hope is that as we keep advancing our knowledge of the intelligence of living systems, we not only apply this knowledge to computers but we apply this knowledge to advance our consciousness and intelligence.01/04/2017 #55 Gerald Hecht#54 @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher sometimes they get backed up, other times they come out in a snort along with a bit of a beverage...I am continually trying to balance the "Doshas", "Buddha Laughs", "Fading Cheshire Cats"...for a smoother, more consistent experience --especially with issues that effect the "end user".
Also (as usual) I accidentally inverted the wisdom of the great developmental psychologist -- G. Stanley Hall. It should read:
"Phrenology Recapiulates Proctology"
I had it all Ass-Backwards...which can be disastrous for both Scatological Philosophers and Machine Learning Algorithm Coders, not to mention Internet Connected Smart/"Self-Driving Water Closets...and the end users of those types of hardware associated with the "Internet of Things".01/04/2017 #52 Gerald Hecht#50 @mark blevins what if its a "smart bullet"...and it gets stuck; this is the kind of thing we will be up against shortly...it may very well be the kind of thing that we are already dealing with; I also find the metallic taste sticks to the roof of the mouth...for a while --next thing you know its crossed the cribiform plate and activated itself.01/04/2017 #51 Praveen Raj Gullepalli#48 Lol. Whichever end you please! Coming back to it all...that cloud could be likened to, say, the mind collective. Terminology aside, the idea could be that machines would also never be able to read into some collective of their own, Internet being proof of that. They can relay and respond, but never react. Unless programmed. Thanks Doc and Gerry.01/04/2017 #48 Gerald Hecht#47 @Praveen Raj Gullepalli Actually...that last part about the Cloud of Consciousness...I think I see where the leak in the plumbing "self plunger function" is getting blocked --I'm gonna debug a subroutine right quick...I was seeing it all wrong...I think if...let me just leave you with this and get back --its just like G.Stanley Hall famously said: "PROCTOLOGY RECAPITULATES PHRENOLOGY"!!
The problem in the training module is so obvious now; a simple blockage really!31/03/2017 #47 Praveen Raj Gullepalli#43 Doc could it be more a 'load' factor than the 'use' factor that David means? Just like the more sw/apps/programming loaded on an OS the more loaded to perform/ functional a PC/device is? Head trauma creating bad sectors affecting recall and certain functions and so on? But then again there is that Cloud of Consciousness...31/03/2017 #45 Gerald Hecht#40 @Praveen Raj Gullepalli This was actually true...what I don't know is if its been followed up on...there could (I have no idea) be a physiological signal...which 1960's instrumentation was unable to detect.
I will not involve myself in "research" of this type in any case; just won't do it.
I have no doubt however, that someone at DARPA or someplace probably will.
'31/03/2017 #43 Ian Weinberg#11 Hi again @David B. Grinberg I don't know where this thing about humans only using a small part of their brains, originates. What I do know is that using diagnostic modalities such as EEG's, fMRI and PET scans, we see comprehensive activity taking place throughout both hemispheres. How much of this activity is cohesively integrated and monitored at the screen of consciousness at any given moment, is another whole discussion. As regards the replication of human consciousness on memory devices, we need to respect the existence of many components that contribute to this thing called consciousness. Inter alia these include data memory storage, unique subjectivity/algorithms, emotion and then of course the interaction of consciousness with quantum phenomena - 'spooky action at a distance'. At this stage I would suggest that data and algorithms could be feasibly replicated and stored. But the million dollar question is how do we get our hands on the source data since we haven't worked out precisely how the neuronal networks store the bytes of info. I would leave you with a thought analogy to ponder - Is the data actually stored in individual brains or are we mere PC's with basic operating systems and unique frequencies, tapping off cloud-based data bases? We do our integration bit (create subjective 'Word' documents) and send them up to the cloud. Likewise we tap off the cloud for substrate data for further integration.
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- Producer01/02/2017De-pollinating: the Hives & the BeesPollinating too prolific? Unaware of Updates? Cluttered content page? On beBee, content goes to your home page, based on which bees you Follow and Hives you've chosen. You can see most activity in your Notifications area.*As a comparison, when...
Comments09/02/2017 #76 Jared 🐝 Wiese ➡ I sell YOU. Fast!#71 I will agree that we need better controls on the language of posts and hives to which we affine.
I just emailed Fede:
"Today Javier shared a post called 'beBee em Português' in hive 'beBee em Português' to 'Profissionais Administrativos'.
Because I am following Javier, I saw all that.
Please have a way in the new UI to choose what languages we want to see or not - in both posts and hives (posts shared to hives)."
Today, to de-pollinate and not lose Javier, I had to Mute the Hive and/or Post.09/02/2017 #75 Jared 🐝 Wiese ➡ I sell YOU. Fast!#72 I can't believe I missed this part:
"Report inappropriate comments:
We know that at times a very small number of members can tarnish the experience for our broader community by posting inappropriate comments. While we monitor for these types of comments and work directly with members, you can also flag and hide abusive or offensive comments made on any article or post:
Click the “More” icon on the top right of a comment.
Click “Report” to report the comment.
In the pop-up window, tell us more about why you chose to report the comment."
I know you disagree, Phil. Yet I still believe - and am allowed to write - this is another good reason that we have "-1" on beBee. It can help encourage the commenter to have more appropriate comments.
Sure, some are open and courageous enough to debate openly. Some are not. I am trying to be courageous here, now. I wonder if I will get +1, -1 or nothing because others have given up on the direction of these comments?
Some people prefer to vote on comments, anonymously. Should everyone in the US who votes be forced to openly state who they voted for in an election?
Perhaps +1/-1 is voting that could be looked at as a way to help the commenter understand how their comment was received. Or it could be looked at as an annoyance that the commenter does not get to refute. Two sides of the same coin.
If people against the "-1" have made their point well enough, beBee has already said they are considering all options.09/02/2017 #73 Jared 🐝 Wiese ➡ I sell YOU. Fast!#71 I see your point. I might add:
I had been in beBee in English for a long time. I built up many followers. I even shared posts there. All good.
Now, however, I see way too many posts about subjects I care no longer. I wish to de-pollinate for a while or even permanently and see what my followers share as sufficient. While perhaps in purgatory-to use your old testament reference - I do not believe I should be in hell forever.
Just like the Lumpy Kingdom is giving the on/off switch to comments. More choice.09/02/2017 #72 Jared 🐝 Wiese ➡ I sell YOU. Fast!This just in from the Lumpy Kingdom blog:
"We continue to encourage two-way conversations on LinkedIn, and for many members who publish, comments are a great way to start discussions and can lead to broader reach.
At the same time, we want to give you greater choice in the types of conversations you have on LinkedIn."09/02/2017 #71 Phil Friedman#70 I have to disagree. If a hive is designated as "beBee in English", I think when one joins the hive, one reasonably expects to see a general stream of posts on a wide range of topics being posted in English. Just as someone who joins beBee in Spanish expects the same, except that the posts will be in Spanish. And so on. I don't think the problem is solved by "de-pollinating" but by enabling a practical system for language filtering those hives that declare themselves for a particular language. And similar for those hives that declare themselves devoted to a particular defined topic area.06/02/2017 #69 Phil Friedman#68 That, Jared, is to answer a question with a question. But never mind, the answer to your question is no. It is simply an inappropriate posting because the Hive is "beBee in English". It is not an issue over one instance, but becomes one if it happens over and over again. Because then a member of a hive that is for English gets Portuguese post in their feed too often.04/02/2017 #64 John Vaughan#63 "What were the original results?" asks @Gerald Hecht
Variations on the usual theme, from the Usual Suspects: a modest shitStorm of Outrage from Aficionados - reflexive defensiveness & rejection, misdirection from the topic to personal attack, "Why are you so negative?", "You're the only one who complains", etc. Very tiring.
I get sleepy just talking about it.04/02/2017 #60 John Vaughan#57 :I've noticed your links to http://www.jcvtcs.com/portfolio/
several times...well okay...several million times; anyway, a quick query --is that a convenient URL for reaching you ?" asks @Gerald Hecht View more#57 :I've noticed your links to http://www.jcvtcs.com/portfolio/
several times...well okay...several million times; anyway, a quick query --is that a convenient URL for reaching you ?" asks @Gerald Hecht
JV> That is a convenient link to some useful information that desperately needs to be learned. Use at own risk.
Even more informative: https://jcvtcsblog.wordpress.com/ Repetition implies perceived value.
One can message me directly thru beBee, if we're connected Close04/02/2017 #59 Gerald HechtOverall, this little primer demonstrates the extreme ease and user friendly priority for completing simple tasks --in this case, freeing oneself from the world's most annoying fake shaman/dude/ministry founder (no, not L. Ron Hubbard --he was much more user friendly --he simply died), or stalker, etc..
- 03/02/2017"I'll be back..."Arnold schwarzenegger to Trump: Let's switch jobs Arnold Schwarzenegger Tells President donald trump to "switch jobs" So America can 'Finally sleep well again' ! What do you think about this? Comment down...
Comments05/02/2017 #25 Gerald Hecht#21 @Phil Friedman yes; Trump essentially followed some template on "Personal Branding/Content Marketing" on Social Media all the way to #POTUS
I think that this "SM thing" may be stuck (for now at least) in an infantile stage of development.
It may turnout to have permanent developmental disabilities...05/02/2017 #20 Gerald Hecht#19 @Phil Friedman Indeed; Dr. Schwarznegger did serve as the Governor of California --which is very much like being the Chief Executive of a medium sized nation.
I don't recall him violating acceptable protocols of statesmanship while engaged in official state business.
I recall an incident in the Laundryroom of the Executive Mansion --but I am not in the habit of airing out dirty laundry.05/02/2017 #19 Phil Friedman@Gerald Hecht, @John Vaughan, and others. The irony of this exchange is that I would feel safer if the Oval Office were occupied by The Terminator, rather than The Quacker, who continues to demonstrate the unlikelihood he will ever rise to the occasion. When we write the U.S.'s epitaph, it will say,
Here lie the bones of a great Nation State,
It wanted change at any rate.
So reckless, trusted blind to fate,
And realized its folly much too late.
Cheers -- if there are any to be had.04/02/2017 #14 Gerald Hecht#12 @Brian McKenzie This is a serious request: "Would you object to me using that phrase: "Pavlovian Kibble" in an emergency?
I understand fully, if you'd rather that I not... it's just that recently, I actually was involved in a dispute which could have ended much more gracefully if I had that piece of ammo.04/02/2017 #12 Brian McKenzieIf that comment is because i dont buy and eat your brand of Pavlovian Kibble - then duly noted. However, I well called the current stench and stain of your side two years ago - I was right on point, and well documented in doing so. It is a shame so few listened, it is worse that you think you are anything more than expendable disposable ranting puppets....the US will have its' own "Heavely Hundred" soon enough. My bet is before the end of summer.
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Comments04/02/2017 #6 Gerald Hecht#5 @Phil Friedman That is the construct --but I have to say that I feel like things are "dissolving"...can't articulate it...but I find myself chanting mantras like:"that is the construct"..."that is the construct", "separation of powers", "Rule of Law" , "Preamble, Bill of Rights", "additional amendments as needed to improve the self-correcting machinery of the gyroscope", etc.
Then, I'll hear something like "at today's congressional prayer breakfast POTUS asked everyone present to pray for Arnold Shwarznegger's ratings to improve because: "I'm not just the Nation's Chief Executive...Im also still the Executive Producer of Celebrity Apprentice"...
Hitler was elected too; by the book --Germany was also a Republic ; and "life was a cabaret old chum..."03/02/2017 #5 Phil FriedmanJim, what Trump, his "people", and his supporters don't get is that he was elected the Constitutional President of the US. He is not the CEO of USA, Inc., nor a king with divine rights. Moreover, he leads only one of three equal and co-ordinäte branches of the US government. We are NOT required either by law or tradition or patriotism to simply lay down and shut up. In fact, quite the opposite. The US electorate are not contestants on The Apprentice. And if he doesn't get that, we'll have the opportunity in a few years to say, "You're fired!"
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