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Humans, Nature and Creativity

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This hive is for buzzes that re-create the connections between people and nature - nature and people.
Why Humans? The word humans is derived from humous - from the earth, hence, this hive and the connection between humans and nature.
Why Creativity? Because nature is one big creation, humans are born to create, and creativity is the number one capability to create our future now.

We are experiencing a new renaissance, where people are realizing, who we are being, what we believe, and how we act has profound effects on the whole system in which we live. I hope that the more we see, imagine and experience our inter-connections with each other and nature, the more we collectively uncover new ways to create our workplaces and society that continually expand the ways we foster care of the whole system.
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  1. ProducerJavier Rojas García
    Look at these images
    Look at these imagesThere´s no problem if you don´t understand what this article says, just look at these amazing images. They are hypnotic....Dynamic, colourful patterns represent the way organisms interact and evolve in the visuals for Max Cooper's latest music...
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    Sara Jacobovici
    11/01/2017 #2 Sara Jacobovici
    @Javier Rojas García's share is a great example of organic creativity.
    "There's no story, everyone can imagine something," Max Cooper tells Dezeen. "It talks about emergence and tries to show the beauty of life, the birth of a simple plant from a seed."
    Sara Jacobovici
    11/01/2017 #1 Sara Jacobovici
    Brilliant!! Thank you for this share @Javier Rojas García.
  2. ProducerDeb🐝 Lange

    Deb🐝 Lange

    10/01/2017
    Press pause and sense a moment in a conversation.
    Press pause and sense a moment in a conversation. This is an excerpt of a study I did some time ago, called, A Sense of Being". The original chapter was published in a Management textbook. This is a few moments in the life of a Management Team when pressing pause and being with our sensory...
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    Emily🐝 Bee
    11/01/2017 #5 Emily🐝 Bee
    One word: Mindfulness! :-)
    Michele Williams
    11/01/2017 #4 Michele Williams
    Great example @Deb🐝 Lange. Startup teams are under so much time pressure that taking pauses seems impossible. What do you recommend for them?
    Deb🐝 Lange
    10/01/2017 #3 Deb🐝 Lange
    #1 Hi Sara, yes there is follow up. And I had worked with the team before that day as well. The thing is when we have Ahha Haa's that are visceral and sensory, not celebral - mind only, they stick. There is a shift in our energy, a shift in our state of being. This is real transformation. It has happened to me personally and I can co-create the conditions for deep learning to happen with groups. Building deep trust is critical. Making a commitment is critical. Being able to be non-defensive with anything that arises is critical. Every moment is a learning moment. No matter what arises it is up to the group to choose to take the time to learn from that action or energy that arose.
    Sara Hodge
    10/01/2017 #1 Sara Hodge
    Love how you were able to help them turn it around! Do you follow up with the group later on, to see if they're carrying this new energy forward into their work together? I'd be curious as to how long it might take for old habits to set back in, and whether or not the team would recognize them and be able to deal effectively or not.
  3. Sara Jacobovici

    Sara Jacobovici

    08/01/2017
    @Deb🐝 Lange writes: This hive is dedicated to discover new understanding through our observations and experiences of studying the senses. I dedicate the hive in the honor of two significant great contributors to this field. The first to the late, Professor Sumantra Ghoshal, whose presentation at the World Economic Forum on the smell of organizations, provides us with many new insights to continue his imaginative and thought provoking work in creating better organistional cultures..

    The second to Waldorf Steiner, who in the 1920's wrote of 12 senses. The study of the 12 senses is a core part of education in Waldorf Steiner Schools. As is the study of the seasons and our connection with the earth. Smell, Vision, Hearing, Taste, Touch, Thermoception - the presence & absence of heat, Nocipection (physiological pain), Balance, Movement, Propioception - our kinaesthetic sense, Intuition, and Voice. Perhaps we will discover more senses along the way.

    I also dedicate this hive to both Dr Ali Anani and Sara Jacobi, who have both been wonderful connections that I have made and who invited me to create this hive. I enjoy their passion for creativity, nature, emotions and the senses and to new discoveries in our awareness
    The Senses Hive
    The Senses Hive
    The Senses Hive This hive is dedicated to discover new understanding through our observations and experiences of studying the senses. I dedicate the hive in the honor of two significant great contributors to this field. The first to the late, Professor Sumantra
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    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #3 Ali Anani
    #2 The idea of establishing the Smells HIve was a collaboration in which you had an influencing role in establishing the hive @Sara Jacobovici. I acknowledge the initiation of @Deb🐝 Lange t contribute to the idea and for taking the initiative to expand it from smells hive to senses hive and in making the hive a reality.
    Sara Jacobovici
    08/01/2017 #2 Sara Jacobovici
    #1 My role was in the sharing, the credit of the writing goes to @Deb🐝 Lange. Thank you for your important role of leading and inspiring @Ali Anani.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #1 Ali Anani
    Thank you dear @Sara Jacobovici for this beautiful summation of the buzz by @Deb🐝 Lange. Your contributed comments helped a lot in establishing the dea of this hive. Shared
  4. ProducerDeb🐝 Lange

    Deb🐝 Lange

    08/01/2017
    Smell - a neglected sense
    Smell - a neglected sense This post is dedicated to both Dr Ali Anani, and the late, Professor Sumantra Goshal. Ali found the research of Professor Sumantra, into the smell of organizations and posted Professor Sumantra's 2010 talk, to the World Economic Forum in his recent...
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    Deb🐝 Lange
    09/01/2017 #14 Deb🐝 Lange
    #12 yes @Lyon Brave it is funny how when I thought about what I say, "I can smell a misogynist a mile away" - this was before reading about Professor Sumantra's work - I know I use that language - "I can smell a predator" - even though we use smell largely unconsciously. You say you have an innate sense of direction - yes, I love to go to new places and literally sense, smell, feel my way around - see where I end up, what I am attracted to & what I am repelled by, and to sense my way back to where I am staying! The Wayfinders, were Polynesians who had a sense of direction from their belly. They could navigate treacherous seas around Hawaii without navigation instruments. Not only with the stars at night, but during the day, sensing the depth of water with through their body, and sensing the wind on water, waves etc
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #13 Ali Anani
    #11 You have done a great job here @Deb🐝 Lange. The whole is more important than the part and smells are only a part of our senses. So, you wisely named it The Smells Hive. Your reasoning for establishing it is wonderfuly soud. Thank you
    Lyon Brave
    08/01/2017 #12 Lyon Brave
    You know that makes sense, because i do have an innate sense of direction. The nose knows!
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #11 Deb🐝 Lange
    #9 Dear @Ali Anani yes I can smell your engagement. I hope you thought it was Ok to create a sense hive, not just a smell hive. As soon as I started reading more about smell the first thing I read was how closely inter-related smell is to taste, so once again it is the connections with other things in the whole system that I see as important. this paradox of looking at something closely to study it further and at the same time seeing how it fits into the whole.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #10 Deb🐝 Lange
    #3 @CityVP 🐝 Manjit yes you say it well. "our senses are a part of the richness of existence" - We do not have to consume so much when we take our awareness to the richness of our senses, we have so much to play with , to entertain ourselves, to discover. Perhaps the more people want to experience the richness of life rather than being a consumer of it, the less we will desire to manufacture and consume. I know it is coming from an idealist's perspective. But when you read about how much humans affect nature today, I can only hope we become more aware of our actions. http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4574615.htm
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #9 Ali Anani
    I thank you so much for the dedication dear @Deb🐝 Lange and I am moved by the quality of your buzz and the embedded images, mainly the image wit the green illustrations. The embedded video is also attractive.
    I invite @Sara Jacobovici to read this buzz for it has expanded greatly on my buzz on smells.
    I shared your buzz DEb and I hope you may be able to "smell my engagement".
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #8 Deb🐝 Lange
    #4 I enjoy your provocative thinking and sensing @Sara Jacobovici and look forward to more rich interactions.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #7 Deb🐝 Lange
    #2 Dear @Savvy Raj yes we are so sensitive today to "bad" smells. Hygiene is an area that is sometimes very difficult to talk about, so as you say, some people are excluded without knowing why. We are probably just as uncomfortable at talking about personal smells as we are talking about death! it is strange the things we do not feel comfortable talking about. Thank you for your good wishes.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #6 Deb🐝 Lange
    #1 I am glad you are bouncing back @Devesh Bhatt It is very sad to hear that no one spoke up about the child labour act.
    debasish majumder
    08/01/2017 #5 debasish majumder
    Great insight @Deb🐝 Lange! enjoyed read. thank you for the share.
    Sara Jacobovici
    08/01/2017 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    Thanks for the mention @Deb🐝 Lange. Definitely support the focus, discussion and learning about the "stuff" we're made of. Awareness is the key and I agree 100% when you point out that we have not only lost our capacity to be aware of information communicated throughout senses but that some of us actually "override the cues our senses uncover us."
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    08/01/2017 #3 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Yes, we do dull the power nature gave us to inform our brain and for our brain to inform our body. All senses, all emotions and senses we have never contemplated and emotions we have never conceived - all are a part of creating the richness of existence.
    Savvy Raj
    08/01/2017 #2 Savvy Raj
    A sensitive post @ Deb Lange Interesting take on the significance of sense of smell in our lives.
    Smells can envelope us or emanate from our bodies and often cannot be ignored and are often markers of inclusion or exclusion in setting of social boundaries consciously or subconsciously .
    We are living in a society that often needs us to interact with each other up close whether at work or play . For instance anyone in professions of training in contact sports or performing arts an extremely sensitive sense of smell can at times be a hindarance in practise and hence there is need to learn how to manage and circumvent such social challenges wisely.
    Smell of trust or fear is perhaps an intuitive sense and we are equiped with it as a survival mechanism The question is if we are listening to it in our everyday lives.All the very best for your book 💙
    Devesh Bhatt
    08/01/2017 #1 Devesh Bhatt
    If smell is equated with the unseen, then I would not want to smell people and emotions, just possibilities emerging from them.
    My evaluation of people has been extremely bad and with every new experience of awareness I find most of them to be shameless, so I don't want to smell people.. I just want to want to smell possibilities and incidence.

    I don't want to smell fear or love or anything in others, I won't supress my feelings if they come up, smelling love gives a feeling of love prior to the other choices, smelling fear may give a feeling of empathy or control, the negative spectrum has many many options.

    I believe the smell part maybe useful for those who manage huge organisations and need to find basis for coherence because the systems are redundant and overhauls are costly. as an individual and in small organisations it is more about our own response to the smell rather than the smell itself.

    You are aware about my situation last year, you stated the West, I see a genuine as in the West unlike Urban India, a genuiness I can relate with the hinterland, the true philosophies which have been corrupted for manipulation, just like a single comma or word can change an entire 500 page document, just like that.

    I took the good from a lot of these posts and coupled it with a natural environment, I am bouncing back. Somehow I still feel that people are conditioned to twist a word and change the whole meaning, it's so spontaneous that one has to fall back on systems. An example,. The child labour act wasn't opposed by a single person proclaiming a better life in Urban India here. Hinterland had no voice.
  5. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Just left a review of this fabulous book by a great bee, @Deb Lange and mentioned the fact that we met on beBee!!!

    Here is the most interesting fact about Deb Lange's book. It is helping me so much, that I want to spend all my available time playing, and walking, and sensing the world around me – I keep popping away from my keyboard when I sit down to write a review.

    I recently had the good fortune to meet Deb on a new social media site – beBee. We live in such a magical time. You can synchronistically bump into an author on the other side of the world, a few months before her book is published, strike up a few conversations, and then when the book is available – it is the exact guide that you need to help you help yourself through a period of immense transition.

    This is truly a MUST EXPERIENCE book as read is too one-dimensional to describe the full impact of learning about embodied wisdom. Deb Lange is a marvelous guide through the rites of passage that will allow us to operate with a full body intelligence.

    I really recommend that anyone looking to understand their sensory-based body wisdom get a copy of this book - the words and illustrations partner to create a sense of feeling what one is reading.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0995437203
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
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    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #5 Deb🐝 Lange
    #1 that is so great @Graham Edwards - I would love to hear what you are noticing newly.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/01/2017 #4 Deb🐝 Lange
    #3 much gratitude @Deb 🐝 Helfrich - love to know how your journey is unfolding!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    08/01/2017 #3 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    @Deb🐝 Lange - I just scheduled this review of your fabulous book to tweet out 4x a day for the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we can get some attention flowing your way!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    15/12/2016 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    @Deb🐝 Lange - wonderful you are now able to be mentioned!

    Appreciate that @Graham🐝 Edwards!!!
    Graham🐝 Edwards
    15/12/2016 #1 Graham🐝 Edwards
    This is a great book and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I finding myself "noticing much more effectively" because of "Trust Your Senses"...
  6. ProducerAli Anani

    Ali Anani

    05/01/2017
    Smelly Organizations
    Smelly OrganizationsI walked in my house the other day and could smell the fragrance of roasted butter-enriched popcorn. I was right and my daughter had just finished eating it. The smell revealed to me an action that I didn't see. Smells can be very revealing....
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    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #79 Ali Anani
    #78 I have to find out how you gathered so many nuggets of your own wisdom dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. You keep amazing me. In reference to what you have written "but life has it nature of waste and we often end up wasting that waste", you remind me of the saying "The biggest source of energy is wasted energy". Later I showed that the biggest source of time is wasted times. Yes, we end up in wasting cheap waste sources.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    08/01/2017 #78 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #73 Dear @Ali Anani I am the smeller of my own words and sometimes they don't smell well, because we are focused on the nutrition, but life has it nature of waste and we often end up wasting that waste. There is value in every iota of existence.

    Louis CK made an observation about a typical waste that ends up making us happy. He says in this clip "you don't have to be smart to laugh at farts, but you have to be stupid not to" - sometimes that can be a nugget of wisdom for someone in this world too - that is why I value this diversity and variations in who we are as people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-YT-S0th0
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #77 Ali Anani
    Thank you @Alexa Steele for your sharing this buzz. I appreciate it greatly.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #76 Ali Anani
    #72 Dear @Fatima Williams- your sharp mind amazes me. When I read a comment by you then I know what a high quality comment to expect. I love your triad of energy, place and people. I wonder if you could provide a little bit more on them. I have a sense you have deep thoughts on this. In fact, you have just inspired me with an idea for a forthcoming buzz. I hope your time would allow you to explain a little more. Thank you.
    Your reference to beBee is valid and I again sense what you meant by the triad by referring to beBee. Still, I would love to probe more your thinking.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #75 Ali Anani
    #71 Very true and I agree with you @Phillip Louis D 'Amato that "illusionary leaders" implants their fear on their followers.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #74 Ali Anani
    #69 Thank you @Alexa Steele
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #73 Ali Anani
    #67 "That I call this learning defines my own limitations but it also opens the door to life" - this is my nugget of wisdom for the day dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I am sure @Harvey Lloyd shall enjoy it as well.
    🐝 Fatima Williams
    08/01/2017 #72 🐝 Fatima Williams
    The concept of smell and it's effect on us and the people around us is a very interesting topic @Ali Anani

    Smell forms a triad with energy, place and people.

    The energy that is present in a particular place with a particular set of people defines Smell to me; in the context of a organisation or a home.

    If these 3 are in a perfect unison then there is fragrance.
    Correct me if I'm wrong please.

    I have witnessed that these three have resulted in forming a project at office or shutting down of projects as well and Have resulted in a Happy or broken home.

    SMELL - Simply Making Effective Essence Lasts.

    The smell of beBee is like honey and hence the essense will last for a long time until unless the essense or the people making it are lost.

    To everlasting fragrance created from the Smell of us beBee's ❤

    #beBeesforever #beBeelove
    Phillip Louis D 'Amato
    08/01/2017 #71 Phillip Louis D 'Amato
    Great post.One observation I have noticed about fear in organizations is underneath the fear exists week leaders who hold everyone but themselves accountable.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    08/01/2017 #70 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #68 That is what diversity is Harvey where I value the activist and the soldier. A lot of people have died so we can have this space and there are people who are sacrificing so we do not revert to control that denies us a space to think. Sometimes those that died were not one's that actually wanted to die for their cause, they got caught up in the maelstrom and the system finished them off.

    That is the story of Aaron Swartz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85UvH0TRPc

    Aaron Swartz commited suicide because he became the object of an institutional witchhunt that wanted to make an example of him and the pressure applied on him, led to the loss of a life that worked to protect this ability for us to use media in the manner we are now accustomed - and to make this a greater freedom.

    How we choose to fight or how we choose to love is at the heart of who we are. Those choices also include how we choose to learn. The 1960's did get us to where we are today, because they produced the hippies, that produced the technologists, that produced a space called the Internet but it did not change the smell of the world - this world stinks as much as it did in the 60's.

    When our lives pass and what we believe is changes is cremated or buried with it, human beings will continue to evolve. That is how change happens. Aaron Swartz did not commit suicide because he had chosen to fight the good fight, he died because he got caught in the cross-fire - and that stinks, that really stinks, as much as people who still don't know who that young lad is or why his death was such a phenomenal tragedy the way Lawrence Lessig would see it.

    I honour Harvey Lloyd but I am no Harvey Lloyd.
    Alexa Steele
    08/01/2017 #69 Alexa Steele
    Very interesting topic.
    Harvey Lloyd
    08/01/2017 #68 Harvey Lloyd
    #67 Your original comment spoke to the bloating at the top of resources where the bottom is barely making it, if at all. I am understanding of the balance between ones perception of the world and maintaining a healthy inward spirit.

    In my thoughts this is a given. We have folks at both ends of the spectrum. But folks like the ones commenting here have the presence of mind to start a wave of change.

    We deal in poverty everyday in my profession, not just financial but poverty of the mind. We must act on this force to the extent we can and hope that a few years from now we have steered the youth one degree in the beginning and far away from their current mindset over time.

    A holistic approach will be required that emanates from a grass roots effort to overcome what we have built.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    08/01/2017 #67 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #64 I agree Harvey we should not shy away from the truths of this world but we should not wear them permanently either, I don't want to develop a tough skin but find my way back to a supple skin that acknowledges my own ability to develop resilience but also safety intelligent.

    Our guts both have the strength of a bacterial army but they also have a smell and too often what flows from our gut is being plugged into a world that is full of cruelty, and violence and all sorts of abominations, and instead of battling that world, we begin to battle our chemistry.

    Our stomachs are engineered to protect us from the acid and microbiome that helps us - I am mindful of how our thoughts can create an imbalance within us since our mind cannot discern between what we imagine and what is real, so as we seek to live with the imbalance that is prevalent in the world, I need to improve the relationship within between my own mind and my heart and my gut - an inner trinity. That is also when ideas such as the Chakras make most sense to me because then it provides another kind of map. That I call this learning defines my own limitations but it also opens the door to life.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #66 Ali Anani
    #65 I second every word of your comment @Sara Jacobovici and the comment of @Harvey Lloyd is still brewing in my mind.
    Sara Jacobovici
    08/01/2017 #65 Sara Jacobovici
    #60 Personally @CityVP 🐝 Manjit, your comment has gone straight to my heart. Thank you. Your comment about fragrance and home and then the fractal connection between home and organization, gives us a glimpse of a potential that is rarely realized. You have integrated the most important aspects of creating a human sensory oriented structure; a life giving force, nurturance and a solid foundation from which to grow.
    Harvey Lloyd
    08/01/2017 #64 Harvey Lloyd
    #60 I believe also, we can be sensitized through various stimulus. This is the other side of the coin. I appreciate your comment in description of the home and why senses may be stimulated a certain way.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #63 Ali Anani
    #60 Absolutely dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. What a heart-capturing term this is "home around fragrance". No question dear @Sara Jacobovici shall love it too.
    Yes, we made nonsense of smells attaching hem mostly to corpses, rotten eggs and the like and we have forgotten to stop and smell the fragrance.
    Ali Anani
    08/01/2017 #62 Ali Anani
    #61 Beautiful comment and it is a fractal forming the basis of organizations. Beautiful thinking dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    08/01/2017 #61 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Dear @Ali Anani I have duly responded to Harvey's comment by taking about the sensory space that is a home.

    This is where our good friend @Milos Djukic should be interested because an organization is a fractal, and that fractal begins with the making of organization.

    The making of organization begins with the making of a home for a home is the first fractal level of organization.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    08/01/2017 #60 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #58 There is a human faculty of desensitization regarding what we get exposed to. This numbing of senses from overwhelm is real and it needs due consideration. The one feature of a rotting corpse that is depicted in movies about murder is the apparent obnoxious smell, and I cannot attest to this third party observation, nor do I ever wish to find out what this smell is.

    What I admire most about @Sara Jacobovici is that she does not relish for one nano-second any media that depicts horror, I learned from her that there are human beings who remain sensitive, and instead of becoming desensitized have opened their senses to the world - and in so doing understand that sensitivity is to show sufficient reverence but not to engage one morsel in the putrid feasts of horror.

    The word that we must gravitate to as our sensory capacities increase is FRAGRANCE.

    Fragrance is not an idealism it is an action.

    Since our mother is aging, one day she will pass on and with her passing some but not all of the fragrance of our home. She did not have to watch the horrors that we watch on TV, she saw as much horror as a child as any Syrian refugee because she experienced fully as a child the horrors of the partition. She experienced the horror of losing a child. She experienced the horror of traffickers as they took advantage of the need for workers in Britain and then the stink of the meat factory that needed those workers. When awful news comes she still cries, she and Sara share the same sensitivity. That is why she built a home around fragrance. Mothers is a difficult role to play but the best know the smell of their own home. I don't seek hope, I seek fragrance.
  7. Harvey Lloyd

    Harvey Lloyd

    06/01/2017
    A post concerning our changing emotional state through reflection.
    Harvey Lloyd
    Where you get your reflection will determine how bright you shine.
    www.linkedin.com I was recently listening to Steven Covey and he said something that BLEW ME AWAY. It went something like: Don’t let the weakness of others determine your emotional state. #dropthemic Most...
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  8. Harvey Lloyd

    Harvey Lloyd

    06/01/2017
    Interesting thoughts for the day.
    Harvey Lloyd
    What you fight for will determine your victory.
    www.linkedin.com There's no doubt about it, you are fighting. We are fighting. I am fighting. I was plagued with the question today - am I more actively fighting FOR something than I am fighting AGAINST...
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    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #9 Harvey Lloyd
    #8 Yea i can let my mouth get way out ahead of what my of what i am willing to compete with. My youth taught me a lot about that lesson. Sometimes i was the teacher others a student. School's out for me.
    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #7 Harvey Lloyd
    #6 But did you know that during execution of your wisdom? Nope not raw for me but do realize raw is a capacity i have, and can often start things moving in a direction i might not care to compete within...........sooooooooooo
    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #4 Harvey Lloyd
    #3 Depends on perspective i would imagine. The girl was playing the role i guess. But given the circumstances it was you who exercised wisdom within that moment. The larger question is i assume i didn't end there?
    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #2 Harvey Lloyd
    #1 Wisdom knows no boundaries.
  9. Sara Jacobovici

    Sara Jacobovici

    06/01/2017
    "...the essential promise that resurrection ecology holds." A very interesting read.
    Sara Jacobovici
    After Thousands of Years, Earth's Frozen Life Forms Are Waking Up
    gizmodo.com What's happening in Siberia's thawing permafrost and Greenland's melting glaciers sounds borderline supernatural. Ancient viruses, bacteria, plants, and even animals have been cryogenically frozen there for millennia—and now, they are waking...
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  10. ProducerHarvey Lloyd

    Harvey Lloyd

    04/01/2017
    Defensive Behaviour ........a small business perspective
    Defensive Behaviour ........a small business perspectiveI am wrestling with team members who have become defensive in their responses to performance needs of our operations.   This is normal when you are trying to grow leaders within an organization.  Leadership growth thrust folks into unknown territory...
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    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #22 Harvey Lloyd
    #19 If i could get my team (Including me) to fully understand this single statement in real time "No one ever hits it perfect every time. ;)" defensiveness would go away.

    But then they would be my competitors. So it becomes a circular argument, that is...... life.
    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #21 Harvey Lloyd
    #19 "investigative response" The post was a primer on this very stute phrase. When meeting defensive responses we do need to investigate.

    Thanks for your perspective it was helpful. Our words are the only tools we have, choose wisely.
    Harvey Lloyd
    06/01/2017 #20 Harvey Lloyd
    #18 I really dont wont to get into the specific personal issues within the dynamic. But think i can explain from the post the growth into leadership perspective.

    When we don't know something or our education or self confidence is challenged we tend to defend the current way of doing things. A four year degree may walk into a room with a bunch of PHD's in your profession and be intimidated or another emotional reaction. Your presentation may appear defensive to the others.

    Ours is a change to a more media centric communications style. Enhancing our relationship with our customer through media engagement.

    It requires us to get outside of our normal ways of communications and be intentional, not conversational. This is challenging for our team of professionals. Engagement through knowledge is one thing but engagement through understanding motivations and supporting them is quite another.

    I appreciate your inquiry and do enjoy different perspectives. I can get a in a box sometimes. Also defensiveness is a broad topic that would require a series of posts to discuss the nuances of their creation and acceptance into our identity.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    05/01/2017 #19 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #14 No one ever hits it perfect every time. ;)

    We often allow time to be a limiting factor in these face to face situations where defensive behavior presents itself. It is going against our plan in our head and it is not emotional laziness that stops us it is often impatience that brings up our defensive behavior when we meet with resistance.

    In communication we often forget that language is all metaphorical and we attach meanings different at times. You mention New York, depending on what block you are on the slang can change and communication can be more difficult. When I was in the Air Force people came from all over.

    Taking time to get to know the people we are working with and their history can often identify potential communication that might put them on the defensive based on the slang from where they are from.

    This again is where I find the investigative response being built can help avoid these issues. Instead of getting defensive when someone uses a word I might normally find upsetting based on my context I am applying to the metaphor may not be what they intended and it is better for me to ask for clarification than allow myself to become defensive in my response to a perceived verbal attack that might not even be an attack.

    Even if it is, choosing the investigative route allows for more questions to see if resolution can be found and defensive behavior can be removed from the equation in favor of more evolved thinking that leads to more evolved behavior.
    Lyon Brave
    05/01/2017 #18 Lyon Brave
    I wish you would have used some examples of the defensive behavior you are seeing at work. There are a lot of ways people can seem defensive. I also wished you would of explained some triggers. You mention growing leaders causes people to be defensive? Is it the specific person who is being groomed for a leadership position, defensive, or is it other coworkers who feel left out? Shouldn't growth be exciting and not cause people to feel guarded. What is the hierarchical structure like in this business? Haha I guess I like details.
    Harvey Lloyd
    05/01/2017 #17 Harvey Lloyd
    #13 "It takes intent and work on a daily basis" The intent cant begin until you recognize the behavior exists. In my growth as a leader and company i have discovered in myself and in team members we operate until we become uncomfortable or challenged. Once there, we can become defensive of past behaviors or we can self analysis where we are and what is needed to grow out.

    The question is usually not about defend, but how long do you dwell there?

    Sounds simple from the outside looking in, but i think we have all been and will be at certain growth areas where we need to re-access our behaviors.
    Harvey Lloyd
    05/01/2017 #16 Harvey Lloyd
    #11 I wish it were a please thing, these are typically easy to lead. No, its a personal growth thing. We are asking professionals of various fields to develop in areas they were not educated within. This is the plight of small business, everyone needs to wear different hats.

    I am always uncomfortable with bending ones training in new directions and utilizing HR tactics to bring them along. I enjoy growing folks and sharing the journey.

    Thanks for your comment and have been where you discussed, in my earlier years i sought relationships and understood that with this, leadership would be easy. That was a school of hard knocks journey.
    Harvey Lloyd
    05/01/2017 #15 Harvey Lloyd
    #12 Thanks for the comments and you clearly broadened the discussion out to include leadership styles. Leadership styles are an important aspect of change management and what triggers discussion about which style, is what the leader experiences within the feedback loop.

    When i sense feedback that is defensive i realize that i may have assumed a few things that i shouldn't and now and individual may become defensive.

    Intentions are often misinterpreted. We have two opportunities for this to self correct. The leader recognizes and adjusts or the team member seeks understanding. The best direction is always from the team member. It shows the leader that courage and responsibility exists within the member.
    Harvey Lloyd
    05/01/2017 #14 Harvey Lloyd
    #13 Max thanks for your comment and i agree it does take two sides to create a defensive position. Within change management you are moving perspectives along with goals.

    I would like to say that you hit it perfect each time but this is not the case. Time constraints and possibly emotional laziness you step through some aspects without thinking about the impact on others.

    Defensiveness is a misinterpretation of events or a natural response to attack, if i may borrow your word. We have moved past the attack style of leadership. But we are in the midst of realigning our communications style.

    The post was more an awareness initiator. Your comments expose other elements of the process.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    05/01/2017 #13 Max🐝 J. Carter
    What's there to defend?

    When I designed out Protection Through Right Action it was to create a thought process that allow one to not feel the need to defend.

    To feel the need to defend means there must be an attack.

    This is where the results of my piece on Changing Instincts comes into place.

    Identify the situations which bring up the defensive response or make you feel as though you are being attacked and start changing the reaction/response/insticnct to investigate as often in life the idea of needing to defend ourselves is done out of fear of losing status or having our image dented. Social media multiplies this effect as many have their online image tied to their career.

    In my corporate days and some of the leadership material I have written I talk about tailoring your message to the counter. You know who the "mob" boss is in the group and if you tailor your message to them and take away the counters they might make you shore up your message and communication skills and learn how to motivate them better. It was the experience I had with my direct reports based on the 2 following ideas.

    Take the ability to attack away and you never have to worry about defending anything.

    Never take an attacking posture and no one need defend themselves from you.

    Just as any behavior our defensive behavior starts with a primal instinct and is cultivated by our experiences and our choices. It is always within our personal power to change anything about us behaviorally. It takes intent and work on a daily basis and progress will be made and anyone can retrain their instincts and get a handle on their behavior better through better self talk which is where our personal programming is done.
    Preston Vander Ven
    05/01/2017 #12 Preston Vander Ven
    Sometimes if there is a lot of defensiveness within the group the style of Leadership needs to change depending on the situation. Five styles of leadership generally are recognized.

    Telling (or ordering) - The leader alone identifies the problem, makes the decisions, and directs the activities. This style appears autocratic and may or may not involve opinions of the group members.
    Persuading (or Selling) - In this style of leadership, the decision has already been made by the leader. Having made the decision, the leader must sell it to the group to get the cooperation.
    Consulting - Group members participate and provide input. The leader may suggest a tentative decision or plan and get the group’s reaction. Having consulted the group, the leader still makes the final decision, usually based on group consensus. If consensus can’t be reached, the group is encouraged to note this and follow the desires of the majority.
    Delegating - The leader identifies the problem, sets certain guidelines, boundaries, or rules, and then turns the situation to be solved over to the group or one of its members. The leader accepts the decision of the group if it is within the boundaries established of the group. While authority may be delegated, the responsibility still remains with the leader.
    Joining - The leader steps down as leader and now joins the group. The leader agree in advance to abide by the entire group decision. It is important to remember that “Joining” the group is still leadership. Before this step, allows consider the resources of the group.
    No single leadership style is “best.” Each depends on the situation, experience of the people in the group, and the task at hand. As leadership styles move from Telling to Joining, the person’s authority appear to diminish and the group’s participation increases.
    Jim Cody
    05/01/2017 #11 Jim Cody
    You can't please everyone and if try you'll wind up with others who will become defensive. Pull each individual aside and speak to them. Been there done that.
    Devesh Bhatt
    05/01/2017 #10 Devesh Bhatt
    #9 or maybe time constraints are the exact tool to manipulate others to function as we please, haste doesn't permit them to evaluate. Soon, by the time they move under good management they have this defensive mechanism which refuses to work without sufficient data even when the data constraint is genuine. The outdated narrative is not as outdated.
    An example, as an employee I could have been handed the entire information to function right away, but I was made to do the each step without the inputs for the subsequent running, I did not mind the extra running but I certainly felt cheated because many unethical acts were done by my hand repeatedly which were revealed as unethical after seeing the big picture.
    I was adviced to apply the tactic of evasion and reversing the time constraint on the boss who would have to yield information for action or else find another resource.
    A few years down the line I realised the shrewd employer and employees had found new subjects to exploit in different companies , teaching each other the art of manipulation.
    Devesh Bhatt
    04/01/2017 #8 Devesh Bhatt
    #5 180 degrees from the objective with subtle tactics of opposition.
    Yet the defensive mechanism is rooted in perceived threats or a tough stand because they don't want to attach hope to the negotiables
    Now if we look at the threat,, the recession into the childhood narrative seems like a generalisation because it has specific triggers of Social conditioning or much worse traumatic corelations.
    The real constraint here is not convincing them, but convincing them to change the stance within the given time constraints, it always is.
    What we need to understand are the triggers of motivation that may distract them from their own tactics.
    They are thinking risk, reward and responsibility and the scope for error in the intangibles, all factor heavily in a small business, specially for leaders.
    What makes people vulnerable and get defensive - the answer vests in the people, the diagnosis maybe worked as per mentioned frameworks but the actual application requires decision making experience that you already have.. Aligning your method with this theory for replication may not yield a desirable result...instead if you could divulge how you would solve the problem, it can be traced back and linked to behaviour I business problems including the common ailments across all businesses.
    Harvey Lloyd
    04/01/2017 #7 Harvey Lloyd
    #6 Sounds like you have been down this road a few times.
    Adam Weedy
    04/01/2017 #6 Adam Weedy
    #5 Ok, the best way to deal with a defensive person is to reverse the centerfuge by separating them from the team. ie. having a private conversation. Secondly, explain to the defensive person how the initiative is beneficial to their current position - this should eliminate the "fear" which is driving their behavior. Lastly, if the above doesn't work - replace that person with someone who is talented and interested in solutions.
    Harvey Lloyd
    04/01/2017 #5 Harvey Lloyd
    #3 #4 The post should represent a skill set of dealing with defensive people or finding yourself in a defensive position.

    Defensive conversations are like a centerfuge they become concentrated and focused 180 degrees from the objective.

    We should have strategies that allow us to recover back to the objective.
    Adam Weedy
    04/01/2017 #4 Adam Weedy
    My perspective for what it's worth: I see defensive behavior among people who were hired for the wrong reasons. They have a mix of "non-threatening" and "aggressive" traits which assist their quest for elevation. Their interest in the company they're working for is consequential at best.
    Devesh Bhatt
    04/01/2017 #3 Devesh Bhatt
    Contd

    The consistent method which I have witnessed but I have not been able to practice effectively
    Manipulate others into submission with hints of intent and position as points of reference that there was no dishonesty in the negotistions /talks... Both parties are familiar with the unsaid nuances and both update their narratives with new needs and new strategies... Unfortunately customers in North and Western India also negotiate hard as they don't trust the law , the processes and the company.

    This is how I relate to your post while I read it again to gain more insights to your references, perhaps improve my learning.
    Devesh Bhatt
    04/01/2017 #2 Devesh Bhatt
    Enlightening. Thanks..

    If I may

    My assumptions : every response is an outdated narrative. Defence mechanism is a cocoon and not a shell, to safely update narratives without present our vulnerabilities.
    Why do people assume a cocoon as a shell? Reasons may range from lack of trust on people/uncertainty, adaptability; fear; complacency coupled with doubts; loss of control; and as you mentioned unintentional conditioning.
    We are concerned with the shell and reasons are irrelevant for now, they hold value in revising systems, right now the concern is the shell - the outdated narrative.

    My method --- transparent engagement + cutting through the clutter -- patiently with customers and patiently or aggressively as the time constraints demand with vendors and coworkers, demarcating accountability (against transparency) and leading by example..with papers and precedents of progress as the bedrock -- the outdated narrative has been changed before, why stop now? ... This process in my experience has been inconsistent as it leaves a bad taste for the next cycle and people get back with stronger shells... Updated systems need to be built with collaboration and it never hurts to give them credit for merely participating even though they have not given any substantial inputs -- only barrier time constraints which do not allow for appeasement and apologies

    Contd
  11. ProducerAmarish J. Khan 🐝
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    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    03/01/2017 #4 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Hi Amarish, thanks for the share. Intuition is also defined as the direct perception of knowledge. You indicate that the article above is written by Vishal Kataria. All of it? Or just the mind mapping bit?
    Harvey Lloyd
    03/01/2017 #3 Harvey Lloyd
    This is an excellent concept and rings very true as you stated with your question, "What Stifles Creativity? " This is a question i try and answer everyday in my profession. When faced with leadership issues you not only have the creative steps of going forward but you have others in the organization that require you to bring them along. The overall answer to the question is fear.

    A broad answer but as @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher stated, "I thought it was a crazy idea...",overcoming our own limitations is the first key to becoming creative. Mind mapping i can only assume must be done within a vacuum of no fear. When you develop links across hemispheres their can't be channeling based on fears already established, they must flow freely.

    Thanks for the post
    Amarish J. Khan 🐝
    03/01/2017 #2 Amarish J. Khan 🐝
    #1 that was a very valuable response. I'm so glad your vertigo is under control. Great example regarding the Children.
    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    03/01/2017 #1 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    I like the idea of drawing a visual mind map @Amarish J. Khan 🐝. When I have time I will have to give it a try. It's true that we utilize both sides of our brain. It even works in cases of medical issues. I have a damaged nerve inside my inner ear which is closely connected to the Cerebellum. I was taught to do brain exercises to allow another part of my brain to compensate for the vertigo. I thought it was a crazy idea at first but it worked. It didn't get rid of it but I gained my balance back and most of my vertigo is under control now. They've even removed one side of the brain in children who had chronic, uncontrolled seizures and found the kids were able to function just as highly with one half of their brain & the seizures diminished greatly or disappeared.
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    This is a great clip of understanding. SOme excellent thoughts to bring in the New Year.
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    What commanding and demonstrative discussion. Thanks for the share John.
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    19/12/2016 #9 Deb🐝 Lange
    Thanks @Deb 🐝 Helfrich yes @Liesbeth Leyson Msc has a very decriptive, imaginative way of writing.. thanks for making the connection.
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    18/12/2016 #8 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Ambassador
    #6 thank you @Mohammed A. Jawad for how you express your view.
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    18/12/2016 #7 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Ambassador
    #5 thank you @Savvy Raj for reading and appreciating it.
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    Ah, sublime exposure of passionate love wherein there are veils of expressions, feelings, dreams, sensations and realities. With every unfolding of veil, there's realization and cheery life.:)
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    18/12/2016 #4 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Ambassador
    #3 thanks so much @debasish majumder, happy to receive these wonderful words.
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    17/12/2016 #3 debasish majumder
    what a unique hue in your buzz, drawing attention to many bees! nice post! enjoyed read. thank you for the share @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Ambassador.
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    17/12/2016 #2 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Ambassador
    sweet confessions are worth sharing @Deb 🐝 Helfrich. Thank you so much to touch my heart.
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    @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Ambassador - I need to confess something. Your buzzes are the dessert of beBee, for me. I always want to make sure I have time to savor them. This particular buzz, just in scrolling down to tell you that the dessert comparison popped into my mind, looks so enticing. Just like seeing that box from the bakery on the counter all afternoon adds to the ultimate joy, knowing that I will get to read this properly later in the day makes me feel so excited.
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    29/12/2016 #3 Carl Nordgren
    #2 cool idea about stopping short of the presentation destination and walking the rest of the way...i did/do something similar, but not 3km.
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    @Carl Nordgren Wow, never knew Stanford did research into this phenomena !!! I owned and ran a large advertising agency for many years and walking was part of the culture. When ideas were presented to me and were not up to scratch my missive would be , " Ok this is shit!!! Now take an hour and go for a long walk and do it again" Ditto with important meetings and presentations. We would stop the car 2 - 3 km from the destination and walk the rest of the way . Not sure, walking methinks makes the brain move about perhaps. I am a pacer and cannot think sitting down....very annoying for colleagues and family !!!
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    Harvey Lloyd
    16/12/2016 #40 Harvey Lloyd
    #38 I agree the crossroads at which we stand will be lead buy our accelerated communications techniques on many platforms. The will of the people will be served. In this they must take media by the hand and stage the journey. Social media platforms or government would be wise not to try and throttle the people as this would be a mess.

    The journey ahead will be lead by ordinary folks not great writers or politicians. Thanks for your comments and thoughts. I can see you leading within this sea of change as i have enjoyed many of your comments.
    Ali Anani
    16/12/2016 #39 Ali Anani
    #37 As you wrote @Harvey Lloyd "Our thoughts should help us transcend the static into dynamic action. We can discuss concepts until we fully understand, but if it doesn't lead to change in action then it is static"- well and I shall take action
    debasish majumder
    16/12/2016 #38 debasish majumder
    yes, new media or social media has the potential to create a concrete platform and even change the dynamics of the political as well social flow, which recently we observe in U.S. election, their capacity and strength. on contrary, a value based platform with integrity sure make a significant proposition in due time, though initially insignificant in nascent stage, but having the potential too to make a sea change with obviously a concrete approach. lovely insightful post @Harvey Lloyd! enjoyed read. thank you for the share.
    Harvey Lloyd
    16/12/2016 #37 Harvey Lloyd
    #36 By all means please carry the thoughts along as you examine your thoughts.

    I am always curious of the disconnect of our own thoughts. The three states don't work if your thoughts are not surrounding dynamic usable outcomes. But i read posts/concepts that focus on static concepts while we live in a dynamic world.

    Our thoughts should help us transcend the static into dynamic action. We can discuss concepts until we fully understand, but if it doesn't lead to change in action then it is static.

    If the above statement is true then our thoughts should always be considered within the end game.

    Understanding today will emerge as action tomorrow.

    This changes our thoughts from "positions" where defense and offense happen, to action thoughts where we realize our thoughts will be attached to a future action. Dynamic thoughts.

    Each step of cloud formation and ultimately rain, is actionable with a result. I see in many posts where we forward a emotional position. These posts remind us of dynamic journeys that have become static positions we cant understand/tolerate or need dynamic thoughts to move forward. Continuing to forward an emotional thought though, does not change the static position.
    Ali Anani
    16/12/2016 #36 Ali Anani
    #35 Now you provoke my mind intensely dear @Harvey Lloyd. I enjoyed your comment and it deserves a buzz on its own. If you don't write a buzz related to your comment then I shall.
    Yes, the comfort zone is a transient zone to clean our mind cache and move on. You "moved" me beyond limits with your super-quality comment.
    Harvey Lloyd
    16/12/2016 #35 Harvey Lloyd
    #34 I have often felt that we are in a state of three conditions when we are seeking understanding or work through issues. I am right until i am wrong, I am wrong until i am right, I am not moving forward. These conditions display state of mind and not judgement. Specifically as it applies to making choices/decisions.

    I can move from state to state based on new information. But realizing these conditions exist allows me to operate without blindness or stagnation. The third state is the challenge as time works against us in a world that moves very quickly. Sometimes we need to work forward even though we may feel wrong, just to start the journey towards right.

    Our comfort zone is always an eroding oasis. A brain relaxing zone if you will. These are the times when we see most clear and relax. Cherish them as the next leg of the journey will come soon enough @Ali Anani
    Ali Anani
    16/12/2016 #34 Ali Anani
    Asking is a sign of maturity. It shows our lack of knowledge and areas where we wish to learn more. I agree with you @Harvey Lloyd and how many times we found that what we believed was a correct answer later proved to be wrong. It is asking questions that keeps us in tension state to desire to know more; answers tend to place us in our comfort zone. We call it comfort zone and in reality it could the ignorance zone and even sometimes the stupidity zone.
    Harvey Lloyd
    15/12/2016 #33 Harvey Lloyd
    #15 "Judge of a man by his questions rather than by his answers." by Voltaire

    So a related qoute and found this one. Thought it would add to the thought. @Ali Anani
    Harvey Lloyd
    15/12/2016 #32 Harvey Lloyd
    #29 One of the things i have recognized in social media (I am a newbee), is we discuss relationships and networks but we see individual comments or posts as a representation of a whole. I try and read comments and posts based on the network and the relationship. I know many relationships and comments contain the depth of previous ideas and thoughts expressed across BeBee. So when @Ali Anani comments or replies to one i know he has probably done so with that individual many times before. Most likely on related and unrelated topics.

    Given this, i have seen a consistency in his responses that shine a clear light on his core values. I have seen him also debate heavily with other Bee's and even then his core values were not abandoned. This consistency is what we gravitate towards.
    Harvey Lloyd
    15/12/2016 #31 Harvey Lloyd
    #28 @Deb🐝 Lange thanks for your comment and thoughts. The topics discussed are divisive depending on your perspective. Early in my leadership career in small business i had to learn quickly that customers, employees and vendors all had a single thought in mind. Their success. Theirs and mine were not always congruent to accomplishing the goal(s).

    I watched success over the years (and failures), and found that most of the success happens where a shared set of core values existed. The last picture in the post displays some of these. I lead with these core values to retain a consistency in my leadership. When we can face adversity from a solid foundation of core values of respect, active listening and professional responses then we can be consistent in our outcomes.

    BeBee is creative and i have learned a lot from reading yours and others posts. My learning accelerates when differing opinions arise within the comments. I like old fashion debates. I know debating is not fashionable these days. Within these debates folks defend their positions and reach deeply into their wealth of knowledge and write words that support their ideals. I learn from them. This also seems harsh in today's world.

    Thanks again for your comments.
    Ali Anani
    15/12/2016 #30 Ali Anani
    #28 @Deb🐝 Lange (WOw! your name is highlighting)- do you understand these are parts of your values "who add to ideas, rather than pull them down, who converge ideas allowing new patterns to form and something new to bubble up and emerge"? For me, they are. Very-well said
    Deb🐝 Lange
    15/12/2016 #29 Deb🐝 Lange
    In fact @Harvey Lloyd I sense creativity in BeBee - the respect of ideas, the addition and building of ideas, taking them to new places and to the unknown is fostering creativity on beBee.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    15/12/2016 #28 Deb🐝 Lange
    I agree with you @Harvey Lloyd - I am attracted to people who I sense through their words and actions online, who read and respect diverse views, who add to ideas, rather than pull them down, who converge ideas allowing new patterns to form and something new to bubble up and emerge. This seems to be happening on beBee in ways that are different from other sites. I feel like LinkedIn is more individualistic, facebook possibly so, even though it has it''s groups. BeBee seems to be more community, sub-community orientated. Although I am only connected to a small group of people on BeBee so I can not say what the overall trend is, other than if the small group I am connecting to has these characteristics, are they a "fractal", a pattern held within the larger group? My core values, hmm, respect of all living beings and their diverse ways of living in our eco-system; freedom with respect; love appreciation gratitude; - hard to come down to 3. I am attracted to the development of ideas and learning from one another in BeBee - I sense the building of a core community I am connecting with, gradually, as time and interactions permit.
    Harvey Lloyd
    14/12/2016 #27 Harvey Lloyd
    #26 Absolutely. Great viewpoint and quote. Thanks for taking the time to discuss the topic. I appreciate your insights and contributions.
    Mohammed Sultan
    14/12/2016 #26 Mohammed Sultan
    #25 I might recall the chairman of Hallmark quote on values when he said-Our values in Hallmark are the only things that ultimately will protect us from making mistakes that would undermine our reputation,our integrity,and therefore ,our success.
    Harvey Lloyd
    14/12/2016 #25 Harvey Lloyd
    #24 Not to labor the point but i do agree that the outcomes of negative views and the journey can lead to distorted thinking. My post is trying to deal with this point, not necessarily place someone in a fixed position. Core values offer us a tool to create a different perspective during the times when we are maybe myopic or focused on a negative aspect.

    I agree with @Phil Friedman distorted thinking is developed through a process of behaviours and interactions. I find myself there sometimes. With core values i can find my way out or maybe avoid the place all together..

    So in a simpler form the core values offer us a way of avoiding the processes you speak. Doesn't mean we necessarily take advantage of this process as often as we should.

    Core values like honesty, humility, forgiveness, seek to understand and many others can assist in avoiding the distorted view Phil points out.
    Mohammed Sultan
    14/12/2016 #24 Mohammed Sultan
    #22 The challenge is always are we able to see our past blinders and the blinders imposed by our judgments and expectations about others.As @Phil Friedman once said in one of his comments on a related issue -distorted thinking is contagious-and I added -when it becomes a habit it spreads.If we can't change our perception first we will not be able to change or create anything new.I completely agree on what @ Mohammed A.Jawad said, if we can't change our negative perception we may regress to a negative mood.
    Ali Anani
    14/12/2016 #23 Ali Anani
    #17 Thank you @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and certainly look forward to reading whatever you contribute because I know it shall be of value.
    Harvey Lloyd
    14/12/2016 #22 Harvey Lloyd
    #21 I agree with the concepts you discuss and would add that the perception is the aspect of the post i was addressing. Perceptions do change based on moods, current events and even to the degree of who might be presenting. Given these variables how can we ever shape ourselves into a society that is sustainable?

    A solution is core values. Yes i have perceptions and they are influenced. But if i have a clear set of core values then i can filter my perceptions through them. I liked what @Mohammed A. Jawad said on a related post "While being fluid or flexible in approach, we all need luminous lampposts for traversing in a truer manner. If not, we get drifted without any directions or reaching any destination." I took his "Luminous Lampposts" to indicate a core value set.

    We should constantly seek different views, but we should also remain true to our values. I don't believe the two are mutually exclusive.
    Mohammed Sultan
    14/12/2016 #21 Mohammed Sultan
    @Harvey LIoyod. Our perception of values is not so much determined by what people bring to us, as by our views toward what they bring ,not so much by what happens as by the way our minds look at what happens.When we become optimistic we will view the same thing differently ,we will see the brighter line of the cloud instead of seeing its inside darker color,which may also deprive us from seeing the colors of the rainbow in the sky.Values are not values unless they are shared.The more often we look at things in the same way ,the more difficult it's to think about them in any other way.When we become regularly tuned to our judgement about people we may lose our personal balance,integrity and start criticising or blaming others or even turn around our established values.
  17. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    I have been really enjoying spending time with @Deb🐝 Lange's new book "Trust Your Senses: Embodied Wisdom for the Modern Age" It is an extremely rich book full of delightful visual imagery that compliments her artfully sage words. This illustration by Dr. Sue Stack deserves a share. This is truly a MUST EXPERIENCE book as read is too one-dimensional to describe the full impact of learning about embodied wisdom: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0995437203 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
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    Deb🐝 Lange
    11/12/2016 #8 Deb🐝 Lange
    #7 well that is just the way I had intended the book to be read, sensed, played, discovered! So you the reader can discover things for yourself! Lots and lots of love to you - call out anytime to ask questions etc xxx
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    10/12/2016 #7 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #6 Here is the truth, I feel I have only just started experiencing your book.

    I'm in a transition, the timing is impeccable, and so I read a bit and then go DO or write or play. Really allow myself to inhabit the change process. The chart on page 40 was particularly useful to me this week.

    "Living our truth creates ease and freedom."

    I am working on a full review and a buzz for beBee. I am so glad we were able to meet and connect on this platform via a number of conversations and I have to say, it is a pretty special bonus to be able to interact with an author while you are marinating over their words, even though they are on the opposite side of the planet.

    Fantastic times we live in, when phenomenal possibilities are a handful of clicks away.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    10/12/2016 #6 Deb🐝 Lange
    @Deb 🐝 Helfrich - my first draft was written 2 and 1/2 years ago - the words had so many iterations. The theory section was 60% bigger and the last section was a seperate guide book. I am glad I eventually shortened the theory, so the one book could be why, what, who, how. I am so glad I had the words illustrated. Stories, questions, guides and images seem to have worked well. I now have a lot of work sharing this book so it can reach people all over the world. I am so happy that the stories can resonate with readers and they too can discover things about themselves, just like I did. I truly believe we are on another major evolution to an exponential shift in the way we learn. thanks for sharing your experience Deb.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    10/12/2016 #5 Deb🐝 Lange
    #3dear @Deb Hilfrich - you are so kind. I feel so excited that what I wrote can affect my readers . I have done a lot of work as a face-to-face experiential facilitator and have thought of the need to be face-to-face to have a visceral response that results in learning. But now I have learnt how to write words and pictures that evoke mind and body connections it opens up more pathways to connect with more people and make s difference to their lives.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    10/12/2016 #4 Deb🐝 Lange
    #2 Thank you for your kind words @AliAnani - I appreciate our connection to pollinate our ideas into one another and allow them to expand and grow.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    06/12/2016 #3 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #2 Thanks for adding that tremendous quote, @Ali Anani. There are so many lines in this book wherein you feel the understanding rather than merely think you understand. Which is what it is all about - embracing our bodily intelligence.
    Ali Anani
    06/12/2016 #2 Ali Anani
    Because I had the opportunity of treading the draft of this book and write a forward fr it, I strongly advocate the purchase and fully assimilation of this great book by @Deb🐝 Lange. Just by reading this:
    When we live our lives as if we are walking heads without bodies, we alienate ourselves from sensing our aliveness, our peace, creativity and wellbeing.
    But, reductionist rational thinking does not provide us with the answers to complex inter-dependent issues that require a conscience, understanding of our humanity, and our inter-connected nature with life on our earth
    Thank you @Deb 🐝 Helfrich for this great synopsis of this outstanding book.
  18. Antoine Prager

    Antoine Prager

    06/11/2016
    Why I love start-up’s environment: no politics, no castrating organizational culture, just pure productive lean structure with boiling minds free flowing! Antoine Prager
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    Deb🐝 Lange
    09/12/2016 #7 Deb🐝 Lange
    Nurturing g this kind of culture is the responsibility of everyone. It is very important to name threats and anything that may undermine the culture as they arise - it is just as important to intentionally create ideas and actions that are enablers of the culture.
    Antoine Prager
    07/11/2016 #6 Antoine Prager
    #3 Absolutely @Aurorasa Sima! Bebee is great in its openness , and this is why we love it!
    Aurorasa Sima
    07/11/2016 #5 Aurorasa Sima
    #4 Yeah, that´s true. Hooray to boob uhm ... beBees!
    Ben Pinto
    07/11/2016 #4 Ben Pinto
    beBee rocks! If it wasn't for this site I might not have met you so soon! #3
    Aurorasa Sima
    07/11/2016 #3 Aurorasa Sima
    No social media site is more open to accepting ideas from outside and it´s users than beBee. Seems we´re on the right track (:
    Pamela 🐝 Williams
    07/11/2016 #1 Pamela 🐝 Williams
    Antoine. Absolutely! It is frustrating beyond reason!
  19. ProducerDeb🐝 Lange

    Deb🐝 Lange

    04/12/2016
    Paintings reawaken our connection with nature
    Paintings reawaken our connection with natureDavid Hockney, loved drawing and painting trees. He said every tree is an individual. His paintings reawaken a connection with trees and nature for many people.He painted most of his paintings in nature, with the changing light, temperature, wind...
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    27/11/2016
    Creating Personal and Business Vitality part 2
    Creating Personal and Business Vitality part 2In Part 1, https://www.bebee.com/producer/@deb-lange/creating-the-conditions-for-business-and-personal-vitality-part-1 I shared how some of the most successful organisations today, and in the 1940's, are characterised by high trust and high...
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    Deb🐝 Lange
    28/11/2016 #23 Deb🐝 Lange
    I receive my first printed copies today Graham! On Amazon this week, I know nothing about launching etc but I guess I will write some posts. Thanks for sharing this post. #22
    Graham🐝 Edwards
    28/11/2016 #22 Graham🐝 Edwards
    Thanks for part II @Deb🐝 Lange... I think your thoughts around "noticing" and "beBee". Looking forward to part III. When's your book coming out btw? : )
    Deb🐝 Lange
    28/11/2016 #21 Deb🐝 Lange
    #18 thanks for reading @Irene Hackett it is great to be connected.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    28/11/2016 #20 Deb🐝 Lange
    I agree @CityVP 🐝 Manjit let's see what emerges from trusting each other and sharing and contributing and generating even more creative ideas. #19
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    28/11/2016 #19 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    What an insightful buzz including the link to the 4-part Netflix program. That is something I will pencil in as a must-watch. I also love the Great Places to Work Institute linkage. I also am following arm with the Turkish archeological site which it seems has sister sites also. Where I am most in alignment with you is the subject of renaissance as you have highlighted it here, which is resonant with the way I view renaissance. This view does encompass the relationships you have outlined in this buzz. I am careful about drawing parallels from archeological sites that are still being deciphered but I understand the relationship to beBee. There is no expectation on my part that beBee is a network leading us to renaissance. That evolution is the sum of individuals who emerge in collaboration, and in this regard there is something special happening here, but I prefer to be patient and let things emerge in good time, or as I said to @🐝 Fatima Williams, that good side of waiting which I do call "emergence".
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #17 Deb🐝 Lange
    #13 dear @Debasish majumber I thought I wrote enough without going into that explicitly. I did not want to get into a gender debate or appear as a man hater - which I am not! It is a complex issue. I have 2 wonderful adult sons who have beliefs and act in ways that respect all - they do not dominate or have power over their loved ones. My parents on the other hand were different. my Dad did have power over my Mother - I love them both dearly they have both passed on. dad's behaviourwas a product of the society he was born into - he loved us all and became much gentler and collaborative as he aged. many people are changing. there are others who are not. I was in a de facto relationship many years ago with a mysognist & narcissist who controlled me - at that time I thought I was strong but his ways reduced me to being submissive and compliant. I am strong again. I can not change people - we all have to choose who we want to be, how we live our lives , what brings harmony and respect.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    27/11/2016 #16 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    "If our minds and thoughts are disconnected from our bodies and emotions and we believe reductionism, measurement and logic are supreme, the strategies that emerge from this mindset will also mirror separation, measurement and logic"

    It is definitely time for the high trust and vitality inherent in embodied cognition and the feelings of interconnectedness that are part of the way we will return to sustainability in matters micro and macro.

    "When our minds and thoughts are connected to our bodies and emotions, what we think is connected to our emotions, our physicality and our connection with others, including our natural world. Therefore, what we manifest, are images, creations, strategies and actions that represent this point of view. "
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #15 Deb🐝 Lange
    #10 good on you @Irene Hackett that's why I became self employed 25 years ago! It was almost unheard of that you could be a professional woman and work a professional job flexibly from home! so I created my own! 3.00 o'clock meetings to pick up my kids - blocked out school holidays- etc etc no one had to know about my priority for family - with a few key clients I did work well on the days I was committed to them. I have managed my life to bring up kids, take sabbaticals to care for my parents as they aged and to die at home, to take my own time reflecting, learning and journeying from people all over the world & woven my work and life in ways around being a whole person.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #14 Deb🐝 Lange
    Thanks @David B. Grinberg#12 the sharing is much appreciated.
    debasish majumder
    27/11/2016 #13 debasish majumder
    lovely insightful post madam @Deb Lange! but, surprisingly you avoided to stretch the idea about how women are large being subjugated by men and virtually recognized men are supreme. why Aristotle cannot be nullified of his biased notion towards men ? however, lovely post. enjoyed read. thank you for the share.
    David B. Grinberg
    27/11/2016 #12 David B. Grinberg
    Thanks for the awesome buzz, Deb. I've shared in three hives with nearly 200,000 member bees.
    Mohammed Sultan
    27/11/2016 #11 Mohammed Sultan
    Although the world seems very masculine ,I see that our org emotional culture which keep masculine/feminine balance is going to prevail.Many men, nowadays,are not tough but emotional and very friendly most of the time.Recent researches on this topic have shown that women can pass masculine tests and the only difference comes from the roles that are given to them and have also shown statistical bias against woman because of the family/work imbalance. My comment is on your first part of your great post@Deb Lange.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #9 Deb🐝 Lange
    #7 Fortunately there are more organisations that do not expect people to work 80 hour weeks, realising, working longer hours does not mean more productivity or creativity. Mindfulness is growing in the business world. Noticing is something we can do any time in the day, stop breathe, notice, what we are feeling, sensing, - how someone else is responding to us or something else in the environment.The more we notice, the more we notice.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #8 Deb🐝 Lange
    #6 Enjoy your breakfast @CityVP 🐝 Manjit - I look forward to hearing your musings. Enjoy your Sunday.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    27/11/2016 #6 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #1 I have not finished reading Part 1 yet. Sunday is my day off so I will dedicate my attention to both parts today - because I really do find the thought processes expressed here to be very interesting and I look forward to reading Part 1 again and then Part 2 - for the actual joy of it. Right now I should get some breakfast for the body, later I will partake in this breakfast of the mind.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #5 Deb🐝 Lange
    I agree @Sara Jacobovici I am not talking about gender today, rather the qualities that invoke interdependence and vitality . thanks for your insights and your story. #4
    Sara Jacobovici
    27/11/2016 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    Great work @Deb🐝 Lange. It's hard to wait for the next one! I can relate to what you wrote in your comment that the result of this buzz came out different than the original draft. I find myself going through this all the time now as a result of the amazing work and discussions going on here.

    In this buzz you write, "This is the rise of honouring both feminine and masculine qualities in both men and women, and the rise in remembering we are human nature as we regain our connection with nature." Well said. The remembering and noticing that you later discuss are crucial to enabling us to work together, to honour each other. Hierarchy got a bad name when people abused their roles. It turned from a focus on responsibility to power. If we had gender related issues, I could see how men would have problems with beBee's predominate metaphor of community where the female is queen and all the males "serve" her. It is because there is a given that this relationship has nothing to do with gender and power but roles and responsibilities that underlies; we can't do it alone. Each of our part is crucial to the whole. I often literally stop to thank and perhaps offer a cup of coffee or something sweet to the street cleaners (so far only men) I pass by in the early hours of the day on my way to work. I couldn't enjoy my walk or my environment if it were not for them.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #3 Deb🐝 Lange
    thank you for your support and catalyst for many more ideas. #2
    Ali Anani
    27/11/2016 #2 Ali Anani
    @Deb🐝 Lange- This is one of the most insightful buzzes that I have read on beBee so far. Great thinking, noticing and remarkable flow of ideas. I love the examples you stated by using metaphors from nature and then applying them to real life examples such as the honeycomb social structure and presenting images to support your views. The result is a buzz that is convincing with emotions and understanding. One example is your linking the honeycomb structure with what beBee is doing:
    The autonomy within the hive enables beBee to grow in unexpected ways due to the trust, freedom and respect of the whole person, inclusiveness of all, and shared responsibility for generating vitality in the hives.
    It seems, a culture of vitality is being created within this structure unlike other social media structures that cut people into 2, either personal or work.
    However, as both sites (FB and LI) still have an existing structure based on separation and control, there can only be so much adaptation.
    I am sure @Juan Imaz and @Javier 🐝 beBee shall enjoy reading this analysis.
    I agree wholeheartedly with your conclusion "If our minds and thoughts are disconnected from our bodies and emotions and we believe reductionism, measurement and logic are supreme, the strategies that emerge from this mindset will also mirror separation, measurement and logic".
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #1 Deb🐝 Lange
    Dear @Ali Anani @Sara Jacobovici @Irene Hackett @🐝 Fatima Williams @Graham🐝 Edwards @CityVP 🐝 Manjit and others, this is a very different post from my draft that i first wrote last week. This means I will be continuing a series as I now have part 3. I look forward to your comments.
  21. ProducerAli Anani

    Ali Anani

    23/11/2016
    beBee is to Engage with Passionate Curiosity
    beBee is to Engage with Passionate CuriosityI wrote a comment addressed to Javier beBee that beBee is Engagement with Passionate Curiosity instead of Engagement with Passion. I find the reasoning would be of interest to many readers. Moreover, this buzz should serve as real example of the...
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    Ali Anani
    25/11/2016 #71 Ali Anani
    @Deb Lange- in response to a comment by @Deb 🐝 Helfrich- I wrote a buzz today on why I failed to drink water. I think this post would be interesting to you
    https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/conscious-and-subconscious-questions
    Deb🐝 Lange
    25/11/2016 #70 Deb🐝 Lange
    I am so happy you are now drinking water Ali Anani- take care of your body - your body is a seed that still needs cultivating, and fertilising to provide us with a home while on this earth. Take good care of yourself. #56
    Ali Anani
    25/11/2016 #69 Ali Anani
    #67 @Max🐝 J. Carter- I am wholeheartedly with you "The best way to exercise this is to ask questions". I agree because the more we know, the more questions we should ask.
    Ali Anani
    25/11/2016 #68 Ali Anani
    #66 I shall do soon @Deb 🐝 Helfrich. Yes, the problem in life starts when we neglect basic requirement to drop them to the second drawe we pay for it. I shall do
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    24/11/2016 #67 Max🐝 J. Carter
    "One of the best ways to better appreciate the power of curiosity is to start exercising it more consciously in your daily experiences.

    The best way to exercsie this is to ask questions.

    I often find that in social media their is an image factor that gets in the way of the growth process as everyone is attempting to find recognition for the understanding they share. Because of this I find there can be a tendency to ignore the counter and avoid the debate on the concepts because of the self image factor and not wanting to have oneself shown inaccurate.

    This is human behavior and it falls upon the individual acknowledge growth only happens outside of your comfort zone.

    I find that we are too focused on knowing and doing with no focus on truly understanding what we think we know that inspires us to do.

    To say we know something is to say we know it in its totality and there is nothing I know in totality other than myself and we never totally know ourselves because we never have all the experiences to reveal the doing we would do regardless of the knowing.

    It is in the doing we find out if the knowledge is true or false and we begin to find wisdom.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    24/11/2016 #66 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #56 As you so often do for others, I have to encourage you, @Ali Anani to expand this comment into a full buzz, as the implications for every human are too great to have it buried. The 3 simplest, yet most important things we can do are drink water, breathe, and sleep - there are profound health benefits to getting these 3 right. And dire consequences when we let the contemporary lifestyle pressure us to neglect our own right balance of proper hydration, respiration, and sleep.

    Passionate curiosity about the best way to optimize our own bodies is part of being in a dynamic community of people who aren't hurting, either physically or emotionally, and therefore can contribute their best selves - mind, body, and spirit.
    Ali Anani
    24/11/2016 #65 Ali Anani
    #63 @Franci Eugenia Hoffman- who could not mention great contributors to the discussions dear @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman? Acknowledgement is the least to do. Yes, I am developing a new lifestyle.
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    24/11/2016 #63 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Thank you for the mention, Ali. Concerning your comments about water and how the lack of it will affect your health, water will help fuel vitality. So don't neglect yourself by not drinking enough water.

    BTW, your posts and you including others in the post itself or via the comments is an excellent way to engage with passionate vitality.
    Ali Anani
    24/11/2016 #62 Ali Anani
    #61 Pareto Rule operating again dear @Mohammed Sultan. THinking energy is wasted- beautiful term.
    Mohammed Sultan
    24/11/2016 #61 Mohammed Sultan
    #58 When we think of the rule 80: 20 we find that 80 % of what we do yield 20% of results, we will realize that 60 % of our thinking energy is wasted.Thus much of our accumulated knowledge and experience is excluded,but may be brought again when we allow our minds to wander.
    Sara Jacobovici
    24/11/2016 #60 Sara Jacobovici
    #55 I replied to @Harvey Lloyd before I read your comment @Ali Anani. I see this as a very important representation of a process that Harvey is calling "Cycle of Wisdom". I need a little more time to sit with this one.
    Sara Jacobovici
    24/11/2016 #59 Sara Jacobovici
    #53 Love it @Harvey Lloyd. I am looking forward to sitting with this for a while.
    Ali Anani
    24/11/2016 #58 Ali Anani
    Dear @Mohammed Sultan- you give me something to think about: Creativity = Analytics + Curiosity. Equally interesting is that Curiosity is a source of energy. I wonder what @Harvey Lloyd thinks as he mentioned energy in his last comment. Harvey wrote "The light is (the outcome or trial and error) where energy is applied". Could we amalgamate the two and say trial and error that leads to more curiosity is the source of energy (like light for trees)? I greatly appreciate your comment Mohammed for we are all trying and learn from our errors and hopefully, increasing or curiosity to learn more.
    Mohammed Sultan
    24/11/2016 #57 Mohammed Sultan
    Dear @ Ali Anani.PhD.Thanks for sharing your creative slogan.When we think of the research process from data collection and analysis to reaching a conclusion ,curiosity is the state by which we maintain an open mind and spirit of inquiry and helps in looking for things in a different way.unlike our judgement which can lead us to a "prison" of familiarity or to fall victim to our held beliefs ,curiosity can free and lead us to the gate of creativity.We often shape our strategic decisions by being more curious.This why we often say creativity is more powerful than analytics when it comes to designing an effective strategy.Here I can say with confidence that Creativity= Analytics+curiosity.In our research process curiosity is the "energy" that enhance the speed and power of our interpretations and creates the interest and desire for our follow up action of the research findings.
    Ali Anani
    24/11/2016 #56 Ali Anani
    #54 Dear @Deb🐝 Lange- let me confess to you. I lived in the Gulf and other places for years and temperature and humidity there are on the extremes. In spite of my knowledge and understanding of the importance of water to our bodies I was very neglectful in drinking enough amounts of water. I would even say I rarely did. All my family tend to have blood pressure towards the low end, except for I. Almost 20 years back I suffered from blood pressure. Nobody expected that because I have inner peace and no genetic problems. One time my blood pressure reached 190/140!!! No medical specialist could figure out the causes. I had to go on medicine to deal with it. Recently, when I suffered from other and compounded health problems, an MD did a quick checkup and told me you don't enough water. I warn you of the consequences". This time I knew, I understood and I acted. Because the MD had regularly to check my blood pressure we was surprised. My blood pressure dropped to 110/70. Many other health problems disappeared. Apparently, accumulation of salts in my body raised my blood pressure. Drinking water in plentiful amounts for a month acted like magic.
    I say this because I want to give a personal example of the applicability of your great comment
    Ali Anani
    24/11/2016 #55 Ali Anani
    #53 I just wonder what @Sara Jacobovici and @Deb🐝 Lange would say. @Harvey Lloyd- You have covered brilliantly 50% of what I intend to discuss in the next buzz. Great wisdom, and I believe we are getting closer to understanding knowledge. I am absolutely marveled by the quality of your comment. It is flowing like water and energizing like light.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #54 Deb🐝 Lange
    #50 Dear @Ali Anani your metaphor talks of the seeds needing knowledge & doing. Sara Jacobovici says we need understanding - and I think she is talking about the experience of the here and now in our physicality, not is some abstract way.

    If we use plants and seeds as a metaphor for people and how they learn and grow, it makes me ask questions about water, air, energy, our body.

    Our emotional state affects our energy, affects the water in our body, affects our DNA, effects our sensing and thinking and physical health. We are 70%water. We know our intentions and what we think change water crystals outside of us, so we must also change the water crystals inside our bodies when we are thinking & sensing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvzsjcBtx8

    Deepak Chopra shares his view that the human body is pure energy. Our emotional state has an effect on our body, our brain & our genes to the point of affecting our DNA structures.

    Everything is connected. Yet, when we act and think as if we are separate from our body, whther we know it or not, we are affecting the water molecules, physical DNA, and energy in our body and we get illnesses.

    If we get physical illnesses, do we also get infected thinking? Thinking that is cut off from the whole, cut off from our physical reality and the physical reality of life around us? Will we become more creative and act more like plants who communicate with their root system, branches, light, air, water, senses, smell & energy? When we regain our connection with ourselves as nature connected to the natural world what new possibilities & latent intelligence will open to us?
    Harvey Lloyd
    24/11/2016 #53 Harvey Lloyd
    #47 Seed>Soil>Water>Light @Ali Anani. This could be the basis of reviewing the human experience. The seed representing an idea or even a person. The soil is the fertile ground of knowledge and environmental understanding, while the water would be the brain's ability to float this new knowledge into action between others.

    The light is (the outcome or trial and error) where energy is applied. This is where the process starts over. WIth the reflection of what the light has returned to our system, we can then plant new seeds.

    This cycle may be labeled the cycle of wisdom. (Curisoisty/need=need for knowledge=skills to apply knowledge=observation of outcome=adjustments/new knowledge=reapplication)=Wisdom
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #52 Deb🐝 Lange
    #49 how about I apply my whole bodied intelligence! not only my brain. I will read what @Sara Jacobovici write again and respond now I am home.
    Ali Anani
    24/11/2016 #51 Ali Anani
    @Sara Jacobovici- what would be your modified equation to include understanding of knowledge?
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    Deb🐝 Lange

    16/11/2016
    Creating the Conditions for Business and Personal Vitality PART 1
    Creating the Conditions for Business and Personal Vitality PART 1Atlassian Foodbank THE STATUS QUO The status quo on reviewing the health of a business often looks like a medical diagnostic looking for the visible and measurable. We may look at numbers of clients, money in the bank, costs, turnover,...
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    29/11/2016 #22 Deb🐝 Lange
    Thanks for doing that extra research @CityVP 🐝 Manjit#21 there are many experiments and studies that are not valued at the time. I was lucky enough to work with a Manager and his Unit for a year in one of my consultancy projects.we did transform the culture from control and alienation to high trust and collaboration, etc We did not realise how good work was until the end of the year when the Unit self organised to review the year, and plan the next one. the barriers we dissolved and the emergence of good will and creativity were significant.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    28/11/2016 #21 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    The final part of my inquiry and fascination with what you introduced in this buzz with the Peckham Experiment was finished this morning as I investigated actualities about the closure of the center. Mythologies tend to be built up over time and it is always both prescient and insightful to get a deeper understanding of why a center that was so progressive in this thinking was shut down. That evidence is available and it balances out what led to the closure of the center.

    ‘Smashed by the National Health’? A Closer Look at the Demise of the Pioneer Health Centre, Peckham by Philip Conford
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4847404/

    This piece completes the picture of the Peckham Experiment for me and in addition adds something fundamental to my knowledge, which was Scott Williamson's attempts to create a practice that opposed pathological thinking i.e. an alternative to pathology, which he called "ethology". It turns out that ethology is credited to others rather than anything to the Peckham Experiment and here one paper does discuss "Human Ethology and the Pioneer Health Centre". This document also introduces the role of Michael Chance and his encounter with the Peckham Experiment.

    Between the Clinic and the Laboratory: Ethology and Pharmacology in the Work of Michael Robin Alexander Chance
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2766138/
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    28/11/2016 #20 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #19 I know about this experiment because you introduced me to it and then I was captivated all Sunday afternoon to learn more about it. What I instinctively know that projects like Peckham are only kept in the public consciousness by people who have a much more extensive time relationship i.e. they can think over much longer-terms and therefore have a larger perspective.

    This is where one individual in that project caught my attention and that was Eileen Conn MBE. I noted her work in Whitehall, and her work on Living Systems and Complexity. In 2010 she was involved in a discussion at a gathering of the 1st International Workshop on Complexity and Real World Applications in Southampton.

    1st International Workshop on Complexity - Discussion : Are Conversations Emergent?
    https://sfworkblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/are-conversations-emergent-are-all-conversations-emergent/

    What I find in the discussion is the usual organizational references such as Chris Argyris, but also mention of Ralph Stacey, who is still alive and whose work I find most compelling as a thinker. It was through Stacey I saw a richer view of uncertainty.

    Ralph Stacey - Complexity and Paradoxes 2015 Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_3Pg5zvRg

    Along with Eileen Conn, Dr Lisa Curtiss is another keeping the Peckham Experiment in the community consciousness and her interview with Henrietta Trotter (who was involved in the original Peckham Experiment) is interesting also

    Interview: Lisa Curtiss with Henrietta Trotter
    https://www.iriss.org.uk/resources/irissfm/peckham-experiment-henrietta-trotter-conversation-lisa-curtice
    Deb🐝 Lange
    27/11/2016 #19 Deb🐝 Lange
    #18 Dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit wow, you certainly know about this experiment. One of my formal studies is in Social Ecology - I gained a Masters Degree through my own research on my own practice as a Management Consultant working with organisations many years ago. My Professor, Richard Bawden for my thesis was the Professor of Systems Thinking. Western Sydney University is renowned for systems thinking. The Peckham Experiment was brought to my attention by the Head of the Social Ecology Faculty. Emeritus Professor Stuart Hill, who is now retired from university life. Peckham is profoundly important. I have been lucky in my career to work with some Managers who have been willing to experiment and shift controlling cultures to cultures where people have the freedom to self-organise. This has contributed wonderful results. But this experiment for 14 years has the evidence that I need to provide. Unfortunately, I do not have statistics for most of my work, it is all anecdotal, even over a year, as we did not know we would create such success. We were experimenting. Today more than ever people want evidence before experimenting and Peckham is a rich source of evidence.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    27/11/2016 #18 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    The bit I did not read before a.k.a. "The Peckham Experiment" simply captured my imagination as I realized what it was I reading. When Williamson died in 1953 and Pearse died in 1978, I am sure that neither would have thought that their legacy (The Peckham Experiment) would be carried forward by The Pioneer Health Foundation into the 21st Century despite the NHS ending their work in 1950. I loved the Biblical quote they used to describe how the work of the two pioneers lives on http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=John+12:24 It is quite remarkable that something that could have been easily forgotten is kept in the memory by only a handful of people. The quote is in the June 2016 blog post by Lisa Curtice "The Roots of Democratic Culture". What else is in there is a reference to Eileen Conn - so who would have thought that the London Borough of Peckham would have a thinker who has contributed to living systems and complexity thinking http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/b/b2/2014_Eileen_Conn_biog_for_Peckham.pdf - I must say, what an incredible link and related linkages. Deb, how did you come to know about The Peckham Experiment, when this would only be knowledge to a handful of people in a select part of the healthcare profession? I was quite absorbed by this today.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #17 Deb🐝 Lange
    #13 thanks Graham I will be finishing part 2. On the weekend . I hope we can continue the conversation. Do you have questions you are pondering?
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #16 Deb🐝 Lange
    #14 yes, and not just micro- management, but applying simple solutions to complex problems. simple rational solutions are fine if I want to fix a tyre in my car but are not appropriate if I want to influence the culture of my business.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #15 Deb🐝 Lange
    I was lucky enough to attend a workshop with Margaret Wheatley over 20 years ago just after she published Leadership & the New Science her work provided a great source of nourishment to me. I had another experience later in with her and Otto Scharmer before he had published his work on Presence so I feel lucky I have been in the flow of seeking out great practitioners throughout my life. Thank you for pointing me in another direction with your references which I will follow up. #12
    Erroll -EL- Warner
    24/11/2016 #14 Erroll -EL- Warner
    Simply, micro management is the evil of all businesses and progress. They see things in their own image and vision. They are not opened to new ideas and never provide feedback. They always feel intellectually challenged by subordinates.
    Graham🐝 Edwards
    24/11/2016 #13 Graham🐝 Edwards
    Can't wait for Part II @Deb🐝 Lange... thanks !
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    24/11/2016 #12 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    As I read this buzz it provided me the same visceral experience I had when I opened up a book by an author I had not previously had heard of before, and that author was a woman called Margaret Wheatley. http://margaretwheatley.com/

    The second immediate experience is one that is far more topical and involves @Aurorasa Sima and her work with Mike Bosworth Leadership and Story Seekers. As I began appreciating Mike's worldview, I now have a lens of story that I immediately see in this buzz. Whereas in my old lens, I would lead with my distaste for many human resource practices whose assumptions are just blindly and blithely accepted as industry norms, in this new lens what I read here discards the need to point at a particular profession.

    Instead the language of vitality speaks for itself and it speaks to greater depths than to engage in a what is wrong with HR lens. Which is fascinating in itself because if there is one thing I should have learned from the insights of Margaret Wheatley, it is that she focuses on "what works" rather than what does not work. In terms of story telling this buzz is a great example of the way I have now seen in the Bosworth approach.

    All of this flows well into showing what is packed into the trust and autonomy diagnostic. I am not particularly a fan of 2x2 grids but they do help people to see things with the caveat that it is not the tool that is the magic but the thinking. I love the thinking here and for sure it is a deep reminder what I found so great in my first encounter with the thinking of Margaret Wheatley.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #11 Deb🐝 Lange
    #3 thanks @Deb 🐝 Helfrich I enjoy our connection.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    24/11/2016 #10 Deb🐝 Lange
    Great @Ali Anani - there is so much happening on beBee it is amazing #8
    Sara Jacobovici
    23/11/2016 #9 Sara Jacobovici
    #7 Sorry @Deb🐝 Lange. Looks like my message got cut off. What I was saying was the following: "The conditions for human vitality in business are not dependent on what business we are in. Every group of people that co-exist and work together will thrive and generate vitality if allowed to co-create the conditions for vitality to emerge." AND "What was critical in the Peckham experiment was the ability to allow confusion and chaos to reign as people learnt how to self-organise and co-create high trust and autonomy to achieve well being for themselves and the collective." From my perspective, I see these as two thirds of a whole environment for growth and success. Looking forward to part 2.
    Ali Anani
    23/11/2016 #8 Ali Anani
    #7 @Deb🐝 Lange- I am writing a buzz now and I am mentioning this buzz in it and also using your quadrant embedded in this buzz
    Deb🐝 Lange
    23/11/2016 #7 Deb🐝 Lange
    Hi Sara #6 yes on to part 2, and there are so many ideas that excite me and want to write about! Love the enthusiasm in bebee .
    Sara Jacobovici
    22/11/2016 #6 Sara Jacobovici
    Bravo @Deb🐝 Lange! Looking forward to part 2. Hard to isolate concepts from part 1 as they are all connected. I will highlight the following two:

    "The conditions for human vitality in business are not dependent on what business we are in. Every group of people that co-exist and work together will thrive and generate vitality if allowed to co-create the conditions for vitality to emerge." AND "What was critical in the Peckham experiment was the ability to allow confusion and chaos to reign as people learnt how to self-organise and co-create high trust and autonomy to achieve well being for themselves and the collective." Two thirds of
    Deb🐝 Lange
    22/11/2016 #5 Deb🐝 Lange
    #3 I absolutely agree with you @Deb 🐝 Helfrich yes the BeBee Ambassador program is a great example. Thanks for your contribution.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    22/11/2016 #4 Deb🐝 Lange
    #2 I am humbled @AliAnani - and that is awesome that you were about to write something that relates- I look forward to reading your next buzz.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    21/11/2016 #3 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    I could have sworn I wrote a comment on this incredible buzz a few days ago.....maybe it got too long and I copied it over to check the length and then forgot to hit submit.

    "What was critical in the Peckham experiment was the ability to allow confusion and chaos to reign as people learnt how to self-organise and co-create high trust and autonomy to achieve well being for themselves and the collective. "

    This goes against so much of the formulaic, listicle type advice we are swimming in these days and yet we see the results all around us that the best outcomes are coming from outside of the corporate cultures. At a certain point, a modus operandus becomes stagnant and sterile, but the organization is too large to change.

    Whereas people are quite flexible and adaptable and willing to work for the combined personal and group good. But to allow these capabilities to flourish, one has to stop planning quarterly deliverables to be met, and introduce some chaos in order for the new to be created.

    The further fact is that trust and autonomy foster wellbeing and better health fosters better cognition and performance and the feedback cycle of a living, dynamic human always learning and growing will ultimately pay enormous dividends for any group they belong to.

    We see it on beBee. The Ambassador program took some heat from some unenlightened corners because it was rather vague. But in not specifying exactly what is to be done, Javier and Juan have opened up to the unimaginable becoming real as each person goes about promoting beBee in the ways that they believe are most authentically meaningful. We can all see this is a better approach than telling 50 people to all do the exact same thing. It would be easier to measure, but the ultimate results would likely pale in comparison to trusting folks to take on the task in their own inimitable ways.
  23. Deb🐝 Lange

    Deb🐝 Lange

    13/11/2016
    Everytime, I come to beBee I "turn to wonder" at the great connections I am making and how those connections are pollinating one another's ideas. My book will be on Amazon very soon. I will be posting quotes, and sections from the book for awhile. I hope people connect and enjoy and pollinate more ideas. Deb🐝 Lange
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    Deb🐝 Lange
    16/11/2016 #6 Deb🐝 Lange
    #1 @Deb 🐝 Helfrich - yes, there is definitely a different kind of post over here on Bebee.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    16/11/2016 #5 Deb🐝 Lange
    #2 Great @Graham Edwards - it has taken 2 and 1/2 years to write, edit and publish, and all the years before learning what I put in this book. I hope the next book won't take quite as long. I have many more I want to write over the upcoming years. have to get this one out in the world first.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    16/11/2016 #4 Deb🐝 Lange
    #3 Hi @CityVP 🐝 Manjit - won't be long now! The title is, "Trust Your Senses - Embodied Wisdom for the Modren Age" - I had the book illustrated "turn to wonder" is one of the illustrations. I will be posting more over the next few weeks.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    13/11/2016 #3 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Look forward to your announcement of release of the book. I take it "Turn to Wonder" is the forthcoming book title.?
    Graham🐝 Edwards
    13/11/2016 #2 Graham🐝 Edwards
    I really like the term "turn to wonder" @Deb🐝 Lange and it does seem that way on beBee. I will check out your book for sure.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    13/11/2016 #1 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Having just woke up, I am full of wonder for all the incredible posts that transpired overnight. A sincere blessing of reading awaits me!

    It is the people, the place, and the potential; all aligned for positive change.
  24. ProducerAli Anani

    Ali Anani

    09/11/2016
    Trees Development as Metaphors for Business Development
    Trees Development as Metaphors for Business DevelopmentTrees development serve as a great metaphor for business development- only if we have a clear definition of what trees development is and what business development means. It is amazing that even what makes a tree definition is still undecided; in...
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    Ali Anani
    14/11/2016 #48 Ali Anani
    #47 Not as kind as your arrange your words into passion @DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    14/11/2016 #47 DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    #40 You know to arrange words in a sentence resulting kindness.. thanks professor
    Ali Anani
    13/11/2016 #46 Ali Anani
    #45 Yes, and I fully agree with your comment @Deb🐝 Lange. YOur writing "I imagine that the more we see ourselves as nature, and learn from nature herself, the better our strategies will be for how to live together in this beautiful world" is powerfully true and is in full accordance with the examples I am covering in my next buzz.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    13/11/2016 #45 Deb🐝 Lange
    Nature is so good at adapting to the environment. Humans have worked hard at making things from nature as if we are not nature. Now that the tide is turning and we are returning to a sense that we are nature, I imagine that nature will provide both metaphors and real strategies to mimic and adapt ourselves. (biomimicry) I imagine that the more we see ourselves as nature, and learn from nature herself, the better our strategies will be for how to live together in this beautiful world.
    Ali Anani
    13/11/2016 #44 Ali Anani
    #42 Ys, dear @Praveen Raj Gullepalli and I am in full agreement with your solid and integrated comment.
    Ali Anani
    13/11/2016 #43 Ali Anani
    #41 Dear sister @Irene Hackett- yes, I agree with you " And as trees must adapt to the changes around them, adaptation to a changing market in the business world is critical". This is part of how trees develop and should also be part of how a business grows. Without adaptation growth shall be ill-sided. I hope my next buzz will show this more clearly.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    13/11/2016 #42 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    A terrific analogy dear Ali. Nature and human life are so connected! A what a great teacher nature is! From the worker bees to the army ants, from the formation flying of migratory birds to the schools of fish swimming in unison...endless are the lessons and the chapters. The Tree as a Teacher is a great chapter indeed! Thank you for sharing.
    Ali Anani
    12/11/2016 #40 Ali Anani
    You are the missing flower in the picture dear @DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    11/11/2016 #39 DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    You suprised me in fact, professor Ali Anani.. Amazing picture you shared with us.
    You, bebee tshirt and a bunch of flowers... What can I say more?
    Amazing in deed...
    Ali Anani
    11/11/2016 #38 Ali Anani
    Thank you the two spiriting ladies @DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão and @Irene Hackett. Always learn from your feedback
    DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    10/11/2016 #36 DILMA BALBI -Contratos e Gestão
    #34 my words
    Ali Anani
    10/11/2016 #35 Ali Anani
    Dear @Mohammed Sultan- I am truly blushing. Your words make me so proud and humbled at the same time. I say that knowledge without circulation is not knowledge because it shall dampen. You have been an extra motivation for me to share. I truly appreciate every word of your comment. Because you mentioned @Javier 🐝 beBee, I am highlighting his name for you. You fill me with energy and I am grateful to you dear Mohammed.
    Mohammed Sultan
    10/11/2016 #34 Mohammed Sultan
    I have said it on linked in And I am saying it again on beBee ,what comes from your discretion is always honored by a wise man like @Javier beBee. When we dig down in the Mideast soil we rarely find a sort of elegant person whose honey is as sweet and tasty as yours.One hear sometimes of a writer being a reflection of current events ,but you always give me the idea of being a reflection of a whole generation of scientists whose pipelines of ideas will never dry. Dear @ Ali Anani PhD because you widened our creative domain ,your discretion must be honored by all of us.
    Ali Anani
    10/11/2016 #33 Ali Anani
    I love the beBee shirt for it symbolizes integrity, knowledge, social contacts, sharing, symbiosis with other minds and all good values @Juan Imaz
    Juan Imaz
    10/11/2016 #32 Juan Imaz
    You look great with beBee's t-shirt @Ali Anani!
    Ali Anani
    10/11/2016 #31 Ali Anani
    Thanks are due to you @Federico 🐝 Álvarez San Martín and the lovely beBee Team
    Ali Anani
    09/11/2016 #29 Ali Anani
    #28 Thank you @David B. Grinberg for your soul-promoting comment and I too love my beBee shirt. It means a lot to me. Thank you also for your sharing of this buzz.
    David B. Grinberg
    09/11/2016 #28 David B. Grinberg
    Thank you once again for yet another enlightening article @Ali Anani. You also look good in that shirt! Be happy, indeed.
    Ali Anani
    09/11/2016 #27 Ali Anani
    #26 I feel the same @🐝 Fatima Williams and I am at home for the last twenty days. I am not used to this, but find reading and commenting on buzzes on beBee as my main source of meditation. I again appreciate your heart-lifting comment.
  25. ProducerSara Jacobovici

    Sara Jacobovici

    13/11/2016
    Sorry, you can’t blame it on politics or politicians.
    Sorry, you can’t blame it on politics or politicians.Image credit: You Tube This “Out of the Comment Box” buzz is in response to two articles. Thank you to @Deb Lange and @ Irene Hackett for sharing and exchanging. This is the stuff that gives value to...
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    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #16 Sara Jacobovici
    #15 Great reminders @Irene Hackett. Thanks for sharing your point of view. And...the honor is all mine.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #14 Sara Jacobovici
    Thank you @Ian Weinberg for the continued exchange and for your link. I would suggest that a very important thread in your work is the "life narrative" you refer to. Stories are both individual and collective. They have a place in history for transmitting information across generations. Culturally, stories have been used to teach the children about who we are and the world around us. And so we internalize stories we hear. In this way our life narrative and story is formed internally. What is an important piece of work is developing the awareness of whose voices narrate different parts of our story and when and how we use our own voice. Not an easy process but definitely worth the effort.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #13 Sara Jacobovici
    #11 Thank you @Harvey Lloyd. Your perspective is always appreciated. Thank you as well for your kind and generous words.
    Ian Weinberg
    13/11/2016 #12 Ian Weinberg
    @Sara Jacobovici thanks for a valid and thought-provoking contribution to the subject. Based on my intervention experience, I would add that the intrinsic limiting belief bias can be a hard nut to crack ( I actually crack nuts professionally, both literally and figuratively!). It really boils down to the prevailing life narrative. There are varying degrees of receptivity ranging from not even acknowledging that there is a blind-spot through recognizing but not being able to transcend the blind-spot to the other extreme, being able to transcend with appropriate intervention and inspiration. And so my approach has always been to contribute as much value as I can to self, other individuals and to the extended environment in the hope that there's some receptivity and traction. It may be of some interest in this regard, to peruse an earlier post of mine which engaged this subject - see https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ian-weinberg/challenging-limiting-beliefs-20993
    Harvey Lloyd
    13/11/2016 #11 Harvey Lloyd
    What an engaging post @Sara Jacobovici. I read both of the pieces you linked and was somewhat bewildered by the group think display.

    Your statement "tribe vs individual" are where my interests lie. Do we reflect a core set of values in our behavior or do we react to our environment to achieve a certain reflection from our behaviors? This question is the study of many hours by great folks, yet the answer is sometimes elusive within the individual. I like the quote by Friedrich Nietzsche.

    It would appear that the election process has demonstrated, on both sides, group think is a powerful force when polarized. Being an individual grants us the opportunity to grow through observation, yet moves us closer or further away from the tribes within our environment. A personal conundrum when we consider our options within social groups.

    One of the "brain" shows demonstrated the strength of group think by asking a simple multiple choice question. Instead of giving an answer the subject would have to walk and stand in one of four roped off areas labeled A-D. They placed a group in the wrong answer. A large percentage of the subjects chose the group. Amazingly the few that choose the right answer looked weird standing away from the group. The ones that choose the group stated they didn't want to appear stupid and were willing to fail with the group even though they new it was the wrong answer. A few ignored the group and stood alone.

    Your courage to write such a post, was encouraging and engaging. Bravo!
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #10 Sara Jacobovici
    #9 Beautifully expressed @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. Thank you.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    13/11/2016 #9 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    Luck and blessings are sweet movements in the paradise we can create.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #8 Sara Jacobovici
    #6 As long as "the music lives on", there is hope. Thanks for stopping by @William VanDorin.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #7 Sara Jacobovici
    #5 Thank you @Ali Anani. I appreciate how you organize the information through your eyes. Much appreciated.
    William VanDorin
    13/11/2016 #6 William VanDorin
    Michael's message fell largely on deaf ears... but hey, it had a killer beat, did it not?
    Ali Anani
    13/11/2016 #5 Ali Anani
    Just combining three segments that I read in this buzz shows how powerful this bizz is. These segments are:
    The only blind spot that exists is the internal, in the moment, when taking in information. But because we know there is a blind spot, it is our responsibility to compensate, strategize and adapt.
    We are a part of this dynamic existence we call life, not passive receivers or observers. It is within the tension of what is and isn’t in our control, fighting for our individuality while living in a community and the choices we make, that moves us on our chosen paths. Sara Jacobovici
    The “luck factor”, as he called it, was the most important one to keep in mind when we are learning psychological development. This doctor and professor at an internationally renowned United States teaching hospital felt it necessary to teach us that an immeasurable factor is an important influence on the measurable development of the human psyche

    Luck comes to those people who deserve it. People who live in the tension of opposites and try to make the best out of it. The tension of knowing what is controllable and what isn't and adapting to it.
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    I couldn't agree more with you @Sara Jacobovici and I am truly enlightened. Thank you
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    #2 Thank you @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher. Your thoughts and perspective are always appreciated.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #3 Sara Jacobovici
    #1 Well said @Deb🐝 Lange! Thanks for your contribution.
    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    13/11/2016 #2 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    Interesting perspective @Sara Jacobovici. I love the lyrics on the meme from Micheal Jackson's song. That was actually one of my favorites later in the years because it has a lot of meaning. We are the change we seek and it must begin with us first. I've seen a lot of group think mentality over the years while following politics and I've always been one to think outside of the box. I hate punditry, and repetitive catch phrases the media uses over and over. One thing I learned long ago is that we need to realize we can be persuaded to believe almost anything if we don't fact check and REMEMBER that many times people are trying to throw others off their game (distractions) which helps to aid them (the Politicians) to avoid topics that are very relevant to everyone. And, there is group think mentality that many get caught up in too, a very dangerous scenario for our country and life in general if we don't take time to reflect and think for ourselves. It does take courage to be your own person.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    13/11/2016 #1 Deb🐝 Lange
    Great post @Sara Jacobovici - so much of this comes back to a deep need for embodied awareness. If I am aware, that throughout my childhood my parents did the best they could, but, they were also living with the struggles of being brought up by their parents, and they were living with theirs etc etc, we can be compassionate for our parents and families. After we have realised we are all in this together, doing the best that we can, then perhaps we can start looking at how we are creating our lives. Are we blindly creating the same as our family of origin as we are doing this by osmosis, or have we chosen to look at the values and beliefs inherent in the way we are thinking, doing, emoting, sensing, voicing and being, and in doing so freely choose the values we want to express in our actions. One of the problems is not all of us know how to uncover our blindspots, and how to uncover our values and beliefs inherent in our actions. Most people are not taught these things in their families, schools or workplaces. The good thing is when we make a commitment we can learn to open our awareness. This new awareness gives us more choice in who we are being at any given time.
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