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Interfaith Dialogue

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A place to deepen our understanding of other's beliefs. All are welcome. Representatives of all religions wanted as Administrators.
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  1. Mohammed A. Jawad
    https://www.bebee.com/producer/@mohammed-a-jawad/preparations-for-ramadan
    Mohammed A. Jawad
    Preparations for Ramadan
    www.bebee.com Aha...it’s all Ramadan rush! Walk in into any hyper store or supermarket and one can see the visible crowd of customers—all hastily wading,...
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  2. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    13/04/2017
    The Obscure Religion That Influenced the West (Link)
    The Obscure Religion That Influenced the West (Link)It has influenced Star Wars and Game of Thrones – and characters as diverse as Voltaire, Nietzsche and Freddie Mercury have cited it as an inspiration. So what is Zoroastrianism? Joobin Bekhrad finds out. 6 April 2017 ...
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    Paul Kemner
    13/04/2017 #1 Paul Kemner
    Certainly not "polytheist", but still an interesting and rare religion.
  3. ProducerRod Loader

    Rod Loader

    25/01/2017
    Day 2 - Peter
    Day 2 - PeterHere is the second part of my story 52 Days, which follows the disciples for the 52 days, from the death of Jesus to Pentecost. If you haven't read "Day 1 - Mary Magdalene" yet, I'd encourage you to do that before continuing. I hope you enjoy this...
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    Rod Loader
    26/01/2017 #3 Rod Loader
    I'll have another look at this chapter, @Dean Owen. I'm always open for improvement. As for a more detailed look at the Last Supper, it is coming in a future chapter. At this point in the story the focus is on the raw emotions like grief, regret and doubt. As time moves on, I will be using another disciple to recall the Last Supper (which is a large and important part) and relate it to Scripture, tradition and the events occurring. #2
    Dean Owen
    26/01/2017 #2 Dean Owen
    Wanting to be critical here as I think this project is seriously amazing and Part 1 was absolutely brilliant. Part 2 is good but perhaps needs a little work. I feel the Last Supper could be given a little more detail given it's significance, but then again I suspect you will be revisiting the Last Supper through the eyes of another disciple in a later episode. I feel I am watching a literary masterpiece unfold. Contemporary, but accurate and well researched.
    Rod Loader
    25/01/2017 #1 Rod Loader
    Here's part 2 of the story you've been waiting for, @Dean Owen.
  4. ProducerLyon Brave

    Lyon Brave

    03/01/2017
    BYE BYE GOD
    BYE BYE GODIf I am to strip my faith naked and not worry about the judgment of my friends and family, I am an ATHEIST. Oddly, I feel a little afraid to say this, like god will pop out and say BOO, or my big brother will lecture me. I have been an atheist since...
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    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    03/01/2017 #4 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    I read a Sufi saying today in the morning while skimming through stuff online. Goes something like this: I searched for God, but only found myself. I searched myself, but found only God! ;)
    Dean Owen
    03/01/2017 #3 Dean Owen
    Brilliant! So honored to be able to say I share your views, but just can't quite articulate them as well as you!
    https://www.bebee.com/producer/@dean-owen/in-the-company-of-nones
  5. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    31/12/2016
    Bible, Qur’an, and violence computerized (link)
    Bible, Qur’an, and violence computerized (link)(TK Barger, Toledo Blade) Tom H. C. Anderson is a numbers guy. He developed a software platform called OdinText, a way to conduct statistical and math-based research using words and phrases. That's called text analytics. There's nothing...
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  6. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    30/11/2016
    Minnesota Metaphysical Boutiques Targeted with Harassment (link)
    Minnesota Metaphysical Boutiques Targeted with Harassment (link)by Cara Schulz - The Wild HuntWHITE BEAR LAKE, Minn. — Pagan-owned businesses face all the usual challenges of any small business: overhead costs, long hours by the owner, and maintaining a customer base. Yet they also face the additional...
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  7. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    30/11/2016
    Indigenous Expel Evangelical Churches for Attacks on Their Culture (link)
    Indigenous Expel Evangelical Churches for Attacks on Their Culture (link)by Rick Kearns - Indian Country Today Indigenous leaders in northern Colombia expelled a group of evangelical Christians from their community recently, saying the missionaries were contributing to the “physical, cultural and spiritual...
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  8. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    24/11/2016
    Paganism Growing in The U.S. Army: Choose Your Own Gods (link - video)
    Paganism Growing in The U.S. Army: Choose Your Own Gods (link - video)by Heat Street staffIt’s a Sunday. Private Horvath makes his way across the Fort Jackson Army Base to attend his weekly religious service. Instead of filing into a church pew, he joins the other soldiers forming a big circle outside, under a...
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  9. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    06/11/2016
    The history of Satanic Panic in the US — and why it's not over yet (link)
    The history of Satanic Panic in the US — and why it's not over yet (link)Updated by Aja Romano Some of the victims of mass hysteria over satanic ritual...
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    Paul Kemner
    09/11/2016 #6 Paul Kemner
    The people running the scare campaigns, especially Jack Chick, have had quite a bit to say about the Catholic Church too:
    http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

    ... and here's an article about the phenomenon:
    http://www.catholic.com/documents/the-nightmare-world-of-jack-t-chick
    Maria Teresa Redondo Infantes
    07/11/2016 #5 Maria Teresa Redondo Infantes
    Ok Mr Williams
    blessed
    WILLIAM C. BALLARD II
    07/11/2016 #4 WILLIAM C. BALLARD II
    #1 Only ONE man, could follow the LAW ever, JESUS, You should know that, To think any person is still under the Commandments, given to Hebrews who had many false gods, Is truly not a follower of JESUS CHRIST, And being alive today is all because of the WORK OF THE CROSS. A gift of GRACE, A gift without sin, A future for children to know given to them by GOD. To live without LAWS of Faith, Peace of mind knowing no man is over GOD. GODBLESS
    Paul Kemner
    06/11/2016 #3 Paul Kemner
    #2 So all the above would fall under the 9th commandment, then.
    WILLIAM C. BALLARD II
    06/11/2016 #2 WILLIAM C. BALLARD II
    REMEMBER The god on earth is real. Ask the POPE, "WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY USE, TO PAY OFF LAWYERS, AND FAMILIES WHERE A CHILD WAS MOLESTED, BY A CATHOLIC PRIEST OF GOD?" The world, would be speechless ,, JESUS knows only a few will enter into Heaven, Because we are sinners. It is up to the individual to love fire or eternity. GODBLESS
    Maria Teresa Redondo Infantes
    06/11/2016 #1 Maria Teresa Redondo Infantes
    We're are Satan?
    Blessing
  10. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    01/11/2016
    Many Gods, One Logic (link)
    Many Gods, One Logic (link)from Epified.A succinct explanation of Hindu (and probably other polytheist)...
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  11. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    31/10/2016
    What it’s like being a witch in New York City (link)
    What it’s like being a witch in New York City (link)By Jane Ridley and Liz Pressman - New York Post A news librarian at The Post, Liz Pressman has been a practicing witch for 42 years — and has recently noticed that pop culture has taken a more open view of her religion, Wicca. This is her story...
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  12. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    19/10/2016
    Gods in Buddhism- Are There Gods, or Aren't There? (link)
    Gods in Buddhism- Are There Gods, or Aren't There? (link)By Barbara O'BrienIt is often asked if there are gods in Buddhism. The short answer is no, but also yes, depending on what you mean by "gods."It also is often asked if it is all right for a Buddhist to believe in God, meaning the creator God of...
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  13. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    19/10/2016
    Resurrecting gods: Where discarded deities wait for shelter (link)
    Resurrecting gods: Where discarded deities wait for shelter (link)(India Samvad) Hong Kong, October 14: Tucked away on a coastal Hong Kong hillside is a different type of recycling point -- here, thousands of unwanted statues of deities look out to sea, gathered and repaired after their owners discard...
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  14. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    09/10/2016
     Americans fuzzy on religious details, study finds--- A heresy for some can be a tenet for others (link)
    Americans fuzzy on religious details, study finds--- A heresy for some can be a tenet for others (link)by TK Barger (Toledo Blade)The headline that LifeWay Research gave its 2016 State of American Theology Study is “Americans Love God and the Bible, Are Fuzzy on Details.” The findings from a survey conducted in April had some very...
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  15. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    06/10/2016
    Inside Santa Muerte, Mexico’s Fast-Growing Death Cult (link)
    Inside Santa Muerte, Mexico’s Fast-Growing Death Cult (link)Roman Catholicism is still by far the dominant religion in Mexico, but the Santa Muerte is quickly gaining followers. And not everyone is happy about itby Jan-Albert Hootsen - vocativ.comMEXICO CITY—The woman and her daughter approach the...
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  16. ProducerNicole Chardenet
    In Defence Of Funny Muslims & Other Hilarious People
    In Defence Of Funny Muslims & Other Hilarious PeopleIs there anything funny about Muslims? Can you say anything about them and not have them, you know, burn down the city in violent protest?Apparently so, on both counts, because Canadians laughed through five seasons of the old CBC show Little Mosque...
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    Charles David Upchurch
    06/10/2016 #17 Charles David Upchurch
    I had no idea it ran for so long. Like I said, I only saw about 5 episodes, probably in the first or second season (starting with the recruitment of the "modern" young imam).
    Nicole Chardenet
    04/10/2016 #16 Nicole Chardenet
    #15 I stopped watching after the fourth season because it was losing its edge, but I have those four seasons on DVD.
    Charles David Upchurch
    04/10/2016 #15 Charles David Upchurch
    #4 I was lucky enough to watch about 5 episodes of 'Little Mosque on the Prairie' and I LOVED it. The show also did a great job of showing multiple points of view.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    03/10/2016 #14 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    #9 You are so hotdiggity right on the keys there Nicole! It is always the powers that be that divide so that they can rule sadly.
    Nicole Chardenet
    03/10/2016 #13 Nicole Chardenet
    #3 Hi Donna-Luisa, over the weekend I was reading articles about misogyny and white male reaction to Hillary Clinton and how we're going to hear the word 'bitch' used far more often in the coming years (let's be real, she's gonna win...) And one article suggested that it's time for forward-thinking women to reclaim the word 'bitch'...particularly after Tina Fey's sketch on Saturday Night Live re Clinton where she said, "Bitches get stuff done." We're in for as much misogyny in the next four years as we've gotten for racism in the last eight...it's time to meet the easily-emasculated with a grin and a smirk rather than a raised fist ;)
    Nicole Chardenet
    03/10/2016 #12 Nicole Chardenet
    #4 Thank you Dean, your support is much appreciated! As someone already pointed out - and as I realized myself as I uploaded the post a few weeks ago - it's not the timeliest story on beBee. I'd actually intended for it to cover more than Little Mosque, which ended production a few years ago, but it just kind of took over. I have been thinking lately of political correctness and how the right is correct (to a certain degree) when it claims PC is ruining political discourse. I've felt that way for years, and I think it's time for some pushback.
    Nicole Chardenet
    03/10/2016 #11 Nicole Chardenet
    #6 Some people use "humour" as a cover to just be nasty, and then accuse the victims of being thin-skinned. It does vary in the eyes of the beholders (or the targets), and some folks for sure are too sensitive, and I think we've catered enough to the thin-skinned, who sometimes really do need to grow up a little. There may be some future honey from me on this...
    Nicole Chardenet
    03/10/2016 #10 Nicole Chardenet
    #7 Hey Lisa, if you can't find it on Netflix it may be available elsewhere. We need to start challenging the easily-offended, though. Humour is a great way to mend fences and make ourselves and others seem less scary. If some thin-skinned Muslims had had their way, Little Mosque would have never made it to air - yet I thought it humanized them and made them less scary. I didn't laugh *at* them, I laughed *with* them.
    Nicole Chardenet
    03/10/2016 #9 Nicole Chardenet
    #8 Praveen, when I first moved to Canada & into my friend's home he met me out in the driveway. He gestured to the neighbours on one side - "Muslims to the left" and to the other side - "Hindus to the right." "We're not going to get caught in the crossfire, are we?" I joked. Turns out we were in a heavily immigrant neighbourhood with lots of Indians and Middle Easterners. Everyone got along with everyone else. It's not as hard as people think.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    01/10/2016 #8 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    I saw a few episodes of Citizen Khan and loved the "protagonist" for his ability to poke fun at himself and others in equally good humour! He too did rile some folks I hear. That said, human nature is the same everywhere, though there are groupings with some characteristic peculiarities. So more than likely it is the same drama in all homes...kids vs parents, daughter-in-law vs Mother-in-law...sibling rivalries...some of my best buddies are muslims and i love their company, their welcoming homes and affection. I blame power politics, religion driven politics, and the resultant mob mentality for creating and sustaining the divides. You will be floored and dumbfounded to see how much Hindu and Muslim friends and families do for each other in this country of mine. It is not easy to co-exist at such close proximity but we have been managing for ages. Because many do believe in the same-blood, same race paradigm.
    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    01/10/2016 #7 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    @Nicole Chardenet, awesome read. I never heard of this show but I wonder if I can find it on Netflix? I agree, there's a lot to be said about humor and those who can laugh at themselves are people I adore. I admit, I've had a few stories I wanted to share but was afraid of offending. Good advice about not being afraid to put it out there.
    Phil Friedman
    01/10/2016 #6 Phil Friedman
    @Nicole Chardenet, to my mind, you are correct in the main about humor... er, humour. I tend, however, to disagree when you say that some humor can be viscous and eviscerating. It's simple the case that not everything that represents itself as humor is funny. Cheers... and ribbet, ribbet, ribbet. :-)
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, Brand Ambassador @ beBee
    01/10/2016 #5 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, Brand Ambassador @ beBee
    No matter who, what, where or why we are, it does hurt to laugh. It's why we laugh that matters.
    Dean Owen
    01/10/2016 #4 Dean Owen
    I am surprised that not many picked up on this article as it is the best and most relevant article I have read all year. I read it the day it was published and wanted to see how the community reacted while making a mental note to come back to it and comment/share if it was overlooked. I certainly hope it was just an oversight and not anything to do with the title and title picture. Well done Nicole. I am a big fan.
    Donna-Luisa Eversley
    22/09/2016 #3 Donna-Luisa Eversley
    @Nicole Chardenet thank you very much for sharing the other side...everyone has a funny bone, and in the silly season of politics everyone has become quite serious. It is good to laugh every now and then...more now than then...the world will hopefully laugh again after the USA elections, coming soon to a live stream near us all 😀
    Nicole Chardenet
    14/09/2016 #2 Nicole Chardenet
    #1 Yeah...I know the show's been over for awhile but godz, the world has gotten so humourless and politically correct I just *had* to say something. And Muslims are very much under the microscope these days.
    Pascal Derrien
    13/09/2016 #1 Pascal Derrien
    Timely article :-)
  17. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    25/09/2016
    300 Hindu families unable to perform Durga puja in Bengal's Kanglapahari village after opposition by 25 Muslim families (link)
    300 Hindu families unable to perform Durga puja in Bengal's Kanglapahari village after opposition by 25 Muslim families (link)Soudhriti Bhabani  | Posted by Anand Jayaram It's been the fourth consecutive year when 300-odd households in a village in West Bengal's Birbhum district are running from pillar to post seeking permission from the district administration just...
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    Paul Kemner
    26/09/2016 #1 Paul Kemner
    Additional news- the situation is apparently more complex- the Muslims in the area were also denied permission to do an Eid sacrifice.
    http://scroll.in/article/766597/ground-report-was-durga-pujo-really-banned-in-a-west-bengal-village
  18. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    24/09/2016
    Bhutan's dark secret to happiness (link)
    Bhutan's dark secret to happiness (link)by Eric Weiner - BBC TravelOn a visit to Thimphu, the capital of Bhutan, I found myself sitting across from a man named Karma Ura, spilling my guts. Maybe it was the fact that he was named Karma, or the thin air, or the way travel melts my...
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  19. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    17/09/2016
    Reconsidering the Witch’s Uniform (link)
    Reconsidering the Witch’s Uniform (link)(by Devo)It's normal for marginalized groups to try and reclaim things that have been used against them. You see this in countless cultures and subcultures such as the LGBTQ+ community reclaiming the word “queer” or pink triangles as a sign of...
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  20. ProducerJavier 🐝 beBee
    Virginia
    VirginiaVirginia is a one of my closest friends. She has had one intimate relationship which began when she was 20. She is now 45. Virginia is a witch. It is quite interesting to listen to her talk about her experiences with her coven. I have not met...
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    Chas ✌️ Wyatt
    17/09/2016 #6 Chas ✌️ Wyatt
    The term 'Witch' has a lot of baggage and a cultural history of negative connotation. Often, the image of the wicked witch of the East melting in the movie "The Wizard of Oz" comes to mind, even though Wanda, the good witch of the West also has a prominent role in the movie. The terms, 'wizard', 'sorcerer', 'shaman', or 'brujo', don't seem to carry the same negative connotations as the term 'witch' does in our culture. Part of it is sexist, part of it is religious bigotry and part of it is the negative imprint from history. Often people in a Judeo-Christian mind-set believe that other cultures are worshiping nature, when in fact they are worshiping the creator through the creation- a totally different perception. Back in the 70's I had a friend that had a strepped throat and as she was walking downtown she ran across a woman and was having a hard time talking to her and explained her condition to her; the woman said she was a witch and placed her hand on her throat and the sore throat and swelling immediately dissappeared. Perhaps if the term 'healer' were used, the negative connotations of a 'witch' putting her hand on my friend's throat wouldn't come to mind. But, the woman she ran across was the real deal, not someone just wearing the label, like many people who claim to be 'psychic' but, are just using it as a ploy to make a buck.
    Dean Owen
    17/09/2016 #5 Dean Owen
    Fascinating. I have never met a witch before (or maybe I have but just don't know it). Virginia sounds like the real deal in that she most likely believes as opposed to an expression of individualism and following an eclectic and perhaps trending theme.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    17/09/2016 #2 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    First of all I would like to thank @Aurorasa Sima for bringing me your way. This is a brilliant account of a way of life that would otherwise pass me by. What is most important in this account is Virginia. You spent time with the uniqueness of one being but also offered the meaning of diversity and I welcome both. You have so honoured your friend that your relationship with her is not found in friendship, it is as natural as the universe.

    No matter what faith system we examine, we can find beautiful people within them all. We are not expansive enough or may have sufficient mental bandwidth to capture the full diversity. What you have expressed here is the true meaning of diversity and you have expressed this at a supernal level. I will never know who Virginia is, but you get me racing towards her for such is the power of your expression and storytelling.

    I walk away with an appreciation for Virginia, an expansion of my insight that brought Wicca into view and you touched the soul of essence, whereas what usually makes faith problematic is where the symbol has been lost and replaced by hardened arteries. Virginia is original source, these people are rare and unique. A single life can be studied for itself and not be fully comprehended in a lifetime of study and yet in this world diversity is about going beyond that life and the ways that emanate from diversity. You have taken me fully into this world as if I had always been there and that is why cite this as brilliant. Absolutely brilliant !
    Paul Kemner
    17/09/2016 #1 Paul Kemner
    There are apparently many types of witchcraft, and many don't have anything to do with Wicca. Kitchen Witchery, Stregheria (Italian) , Celtic, ancient Greek- I think I've seen at least 20. There is even a Christian Witchcraft tradition (possibly connecting with Braucherei tradition in America. Most don't seem to involve a coven structure.
  21. ProducerPaul Kemner

    Paul Kemner

    17/09/2016
    'Jesus Hasn't Saved Us': The Young Black Women Returning to Ancestral Religions (link)
    'Jesus Hasn't Saved Us': The Young Black Women Returning to Ancestral Religions (link)(by Yomi Adegoke)Christianity still exerts a powerful force in many black communities, but some young women are turning their back on the faith and returning to the older, traditional religions of their ancestors. Michelle Yaa does not feel she...
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  22. ProducerSushmita Thakare Jain
    Celebration of Ganesha!
    Celebration of Ganesha!The most visited Large Community Celebration in Mumbai known as Lalbaugh cha Raja i.e. the King of Lalbaugh (Lalbaugh is a locality in Mumbai)Ganesh Chaturthi is the Hindu festival celebrated in honour of the elephant-headed god, Ganesha.But before...
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    Sushmita Thakare Jain
    06/09/2016 #6 Sushmita Thakare Jain
    #5 @Augusto Santos glad you liked it! Thanks for sharing your views.
    Augusto Santos
    06/09/2016 #5 Augusto Santos
    It's very good learn about Ganesh Chaturthi and know about your experience on his celebration. Thanks for sharing @Sushmita Thakare Jain
    Sushmita Thakare Jain
    05/09/2016 #4 Sushmita Thakare Jain
    #2 @Dean Owen glad you like the post!
    Sushmita Thakare Jain
    05/09/2016 #3 Sushmita Thakare Jain
    #1 @CityVP 🐝 Manjit thanks for sharing!
    Dean Owen
    05/09/2016 #2 Dean Owen
    Thanks for sharing Ganesh Chaturthi. Now I am more at rest with increasingly large belly! Lovely buzz.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    05/09/2016 #1 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    I once communicated through my Emeri Gent account with an Indian who impressed me very much, this gentleman's name was Devdutt Pattanaik. He communicated aspects of hinduism in a way that I found absorbing and thoughtful and his chief interest was a practical understanding of mythology.

    A Youtube account by Epified covers Devdutt's 7 Secrets from Hindu Calendar Art, which they have split into 10 video's. It is a fascinating account. When I marry how Devdutt presents this information with how Joseph Campbell talks about the power of myth http://billmoyers.com/content/ep-1-joseph-campbell-and-the-power-of-myth-the-hero%e2%80%99s-adventure-audio/ it takes me understanding from belief to meaning.

    There are powerful meanings to these symbols, just as Adi Shankara has pointed to the different symbolic facets of Ganesha. I then couple all this meaning with what hinduism was when it was many streams of spiritual belief before the impact of the British on making order out of the rich diversity that emanated from the Veda's and other ancient Sanskrit writings.

    It is the work of British archeologists that rediscovered the lost history of Ashoka Maurya - but I prefer the lack of coherence before the British started to first categorize religious belief and secondly start drawing artificial boundaries to separate nations. When I look back before the British involvement in India, there is a rich spirituality that is far greater and much more diverse than what we know of hinduism today. http://www.e-ir.info/2012/11/26/the-impact-of-european-colonialism-on-the-indian-caste-system/

    Through the interference of the British who still cannot deal in larger abstractions, symbols became more concrete in interpretation, rather than a wellspring of deep meanings, and as we move into the knowledge age and beyond, British sense of order is not what we require - instead we need to rediscover what was lost before the British cast their Industrial age design on all.
  23. ProducerSarah Elkins

    Sarah Elkins

    31/08/2016
    Tolerance Isn't Nearly Enough
    Tolerance Isn't Nearly EnoughThis post was originally published on LinkedIn in March, 2015. It's being re-posted here on beBee as a complementary post to Kevin Pashuk's thought-provoking piece, Ponderings on Tolerance.In December of 2013 I broke my record. I gave my annual...
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    Sarah Elkins
    02/09/2016 #14 Sarah Elkins
    #11 @Dean Owen, that is so interesting! I had no idea there is a Jewish quarter in Shanghai. Now I really want to visit there, even more. My family isn't religious, we're more secular in our celebrations. Each boy had a Bar Mitzvah because I love the tradition and find incredible value in the process itself. Both of our boys sang beautifully from the Torah, read their portion, and wrote and presented a speech about it. Because we live in a small Montana town, there's no synagogue, so I taught our boys to read Hebrew and sing the prayers they would need to know for the event. It was an amazing year spent bonding with each of them. I think that story needs to be told, too...
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, Brand Ambassador @ beBee
    01/09/2016 #13 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, Brand Ambassador @ beBee
    A beautiful message sent regarding awareness and acceptance. Tolerance, IMHO is a "maybe" word.
    Dean Owen
    01/09/2016 #11 Dean Owen
    I love the message you outlay here. I remember my parents discussing my Bar Mitzvah. My brother had been on a Kibbutz and had his Bar Mitzvah, but I think it was all done out of respect for my grandmother (A Polish Jew) who was still living at the time. My parents were not religious. My grandmother passing was the last Jewish event I experienced, with the Shiva. I never had a Bar Mitzvah. Now in Asia we tend to celebrate all religious holidays. I guess you could call it hedging our bets? In Shanghai I often visit what was known as the Jewish Quarter and it feels like a walk through my heritage. Your article also reminded me of Friends, The One with the Holiday Armadillo!
    Sarah Elkins
    01/09/2016 #10 Sarah Elkins
    #8 I re-read your comment here a couple of times, Phil, it was that good. I know you're right about the numbers (or lack of numbers) contributing greatly to a perceived sense of challenge or threat. At some point I hope that our global economy and community will understand that to build one person up doesn't mean someone else has to fall. I love your daughter without ever having met her. Our older son has similar "color blindness" in that he doesn't seem to associate any kind of value judgment with any physical characteristic. He was about 4 when we were walking down Clement Street in San Francisco. He saw a kid walking on the other side of the street and said "that kid looks just like Ewan!" I was so puzzled, Phil. Ewan was tall, and is as fair as can be, with blond hair, of Scottish & English descent. The kid Jacob pointed to was smaller in stature -- and very dark brown skin. I asked him why he thought the kid looked like Ewan, and without hesitation he said: "I don't know, just the way he walks and his face, I guess."

    Thanks so much for this great comment. Really thoughtful and insightful.
    Phil Friedman
    01/09/2016 #9 Phil Friedman
    I agree with you, Sarah, that tolerance is not, in itself, sufficient. But believe, as well, it important to understand that "tolerance", even where and when it exists, is fragile. Tolerance way too often depends on numbers and the feeling of security, or lack thereof that numbers engender. For example, you can take a small predominantly white town and introduce a couple of black families, who will be tolerated and even accepted fully into white circles of the town. And without any sub rosa current of racial discrimination. But bring more black families into that same town, to the point that the black minority becomes a significant minority with the ability (repeat ability) to challenge the white majority for political and economic power -- and you will almost always, I submit, see the racial prejudice generate almost spontaneously. Tolerance is easy when we are not threatened. Much harder when we perceive a threat, social, economic, or religious -- whether that threat is real or imagined. cont. Pt II...
    Phil Friedman
    01/09/2016 #8 Phil Friedman
    @Sarah Elkins - pt.II

    I'd also point out that in my experience religious differences are always much more easily tolerated when those differences are reduced to ethnic gastronomy. There are plenty non-Jews, for example, who love a good hot corned beef on seeded Jewish rye or lox on a bagel, and so tolerate (and patronize) the restaurants and the owners of those restaurants. But who show genuine consternation if groups of in-your-face Hasidic Jews move into their neighborhood. And vice versa.

    I don't know if you and @Kevin Pashuk will agree, but I personally believe that we will not achieve genuine tolerance until the need for tolerance disappears. Not because we have all been melted into one pot, but because we have come actually to not notice the racial, ethnic, and religious differences between us. I like to think of the evening I sat with my family, and my older daughter was telling us about something that happened among her group of friends. She spoke of one of the boys doing something particular noteworthy, but I could not pick out in my mind who he was. My daughter tried several times to describe to me who he was, to no avail. Then finally it dawned and I said, "Oh, you mean the black kid who hangs with you guys?" And she said yes. I asked her why she didn't just say that in the first place. Her answer was not that she thought it inappropriate, but that she just never thought to. Thanks for a good read.
    Sarah Elkins
    01/09/2016 #7 Sarah Elkins
    #3 Thanks, @Kevin Pashuk, I really appreciate this comment. Sensing & feeling words can be interpreted in so many ways, who really knows which is the right one to use when it comes to perception and feeling? I guess that's why we write, to clarify our thoughts so we understand them and in the hope that others will as well.
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    31/08/2016 #6 debasish majumder
    men born with ignorance. it the human knowledge which make them numb, disastrous, and vindictive by willful ignorance being crafted with the coating of distorted knowledge, resulting them to become intolerant. nice Sarah @Sarah Elkins View more
    men born with ignorance. it the human knowledge which make them numb, disastrous, and vindictive by willful ignorance being crafted with the coating of distorted knowledge, resulting them to become intolerant. nice Sarah @Sarah Elkins. enjoyed read. thank you for sharing the post. Close
    Kevin Pashuk
    31/08/2016 #5 Kevin Pashuk
    #4 Not quite sure how this is relevant to this post Gordon. While important, I'm sure there's a better place for it.
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    31/08/2016 #4 Gordon Pye
    I got electronically excommunicated from LinkedIn by a Wiseman Daries executive for attempting to reveal the truth on a fatal heavy goods vehicle accident. Explore my https://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2016/04/27/norman-bettinson-of-the-hillsborough-then-sowerby-bridge-disaster-cover-up/
    Kevin Pashuk
    31/08/2016 #3 Kevin Pashuk
    What a nice companion piece @Sarah Elkins... It shows that 'tolerance' shouldn't be our end goal if we want to be part of a healthy community. I really like how you (and your mom) took the initiative to create curiosity about the differences. If I knew how to include applause in my comment, I would do so. 👍👍
    Sarah Elkins
    31/08/2016 #2 Sarah Elkins
    #1 Thanks, @Don 🐝 Kerr, I appreciate your comment & sharing.
    Don 🐝 Kerr
    31/08/2016 #1 Don 🐝 Kerr
    @Sarah Elkins "I share with them that tolerance is a good place to start, but it's not enough. Tolerance means you're okay with others, as long as they keep their differences out of your sight. What we need is to appreciate those differences and recognize the beauty and strength those differences bring to our world." Something we need to be mindful of as adults too! Lovely piece. Thanks for sharing and I will now share it too.
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