- Producer20/09/2017If you want to try language exchange, it will be easy with these appsLearning a foreign language is not that easy. Losing interest, investing a lot of money and not having time are some of the reasons why we might shelve our plans to continue with our studies. However, nowadays Internet offers countless opportunities...
- Producer11/08/2017Starting over when it's probably too lateLearning a language is learning a culture. A language’s syntax offers clues to the way a society thinks, and the changes (over centuries) reflect the evolution of social interactions and the shifts in the way people view their local culture and the...
Comments15/08/2017 #19 Peter Altschuler#18 Russian is ideal for learning English, @Brian McKenzie. I studied it in high school, and English suddenly made sense.
I'm sure that if I'd studied Latin or Greek, as my grandparents did, that I'd have had the same advantage, but my school didn't offer those "classics." It was the middle of the Cold War, and Russian was the logical alternative.12/08/2017 #18 Brian McKenzieI never learned English grammar, until I started studying Russian in college. I believe I still understand Russian better than English even though it is not my native language. The rules seem more logical than, "this is the way we do it" that I learned in the American classrooms.12/08/2017 #17 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand AmbassadorIt's unfortunate we do not appreciate the English language, meaning we seem to conform it to the latest trend or what works to communicate. Even colloquial expressions vary from region to region, which must bring on confusion for those attempting to learn English.11/08/2017 #16 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess#13 As do I sometimes, @Dominuque! Of course, others are far smarter than I in so many ways . . . they probably shake their head and sigh when I do something kind of dumb in the tech world . . . or the music world . . . or the travel world . . .11/08/2017 #15 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess#14 And that's one of the oddities of the language, @Peter Altschuler, although I suspect it's universal with other languages as well. Why a sweater in American is called a jumper in England (and perhaps other countries) is a mystery. But a fun one at that.11/08/2017 #14 Peter Altschuler#9 For several years, @Susan Rooks, I edited the English-language version of "Buongiorno Venezia," a weekly newsletter about Venice, Italy. Yet the Italian publisher insisted that the text use British English.
Switching gears from U.S. to U.K. often sent me on lengthy quests to find the British equivalent of ordinary words; "jumper" instead of "sweater," for instance. The use of plurals, too, is different, as is the placement of punctuation and, obviously, the spelling.
It did, however, come in handy when clients needed copy to be Anglicized for use in British English-speaking countries.11/08/2017 #13 Dominique 🐝 Petersen#9 It's different when you're an editor; you HAVE to know all the rules. What I mean is my reading an email or a post and trying to figure out what the writer is trying to convey. For example, incorrect spelling or wrong word usage makes it difficult to follow. I can accept that from a foreign writer as they have another language. I find it hard to accept from someone who only has ONE Language—English! ;o)11/08/2017 #12 Peter Altschuler#6 Ah, @Dominique Petersen, that is a bit of a problem. Yet it may explain why audiobooks are so popular. I can speak from experience about that medium, since I've recorded several wonderful titles -- "Major Pettigrew's Last Stand," "The Peculiar," and "Creativity, Inc." among them.
That may not qualify as actual book reading, but it's better than reading articles about the Kardashians.11/08/2017 #10 Peter Altschuler#5 Math, @Lisa Vanderburg, is far more logical than language, but the rules are not meant to be broken.
My youngest daughter was absolutely convinced that she wasn't going to graduate from high school because she was sure she was going to fail math. The anxiety didn't help. Her eldest sister suggested that she spend a single weekend with her husband Ron, a man I referred to as a mathemagician.
In two days, he made everything so clear, so straightforward, and so unintimidating that my daughter walked away with a B+ for the class... and went on to graduate magna cum laude from college.
I placed out of college-level math because I'd taken calculus in high school, but I never cared a bit about mathematics. It was only my teachers' skill that gave me an appreciation of numbers, equations, and theorems and allowed me to excel.
So my guess is that you just need to find the right "interpreter" -- someone who's fluent in the language of math and knows how to translate it for others.11/08/2017 #9 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess#1 To be fair, @Dominique Petersen, it's not just the young.
Many of my copyediting clients are in their 40s, 50s, or 60s. They just have forgotten some things they knew, or perhaps they weren't paying much attention back in school.
And if I hadn't decided about 25 years ago to really study this topic of American grammar and usage, I'd be among them! I was really surprised at the rules I'd either never known or had forgotten.11/08/2017 #7 Peter Altschuler#2 My life's an endless litany of grammatical affronts, @Susan Rooks. From billboards proclaiming, "Most 747's to Paris," to the now thankfully diminished use of "persons" ("The rally was attended by 500 persons of various backgrounds") instead of "people," my days are pocked with blemishes on English.
English, to its credit, is a sponge. It readily absorbs words and phrases from other languages and makes itself a little more expressive in the process. (The Académie Française doesn't feel the same way about French.) Yet it's not an easy language to master. Its pronunciation makes no sense, its possessives are unique, and its genders don't really exist, which results in a lot of "theirs" there.
H-o-w-e-v-e-r... I'd never propose that people must have a command of every nuance to be masterful writers. All they have to do is be able to be understood in print. Granted, that requires the ability to think about and organize what's to be said, and that's a discipline that begins at the beginning -- with the input a child gets from its parents.
As with any apprenticeship, it's vital to learn which tools to use, how to use them, and how to care for and maintain them. Grammar, punctuation, and syntax are the toolkit of language, and they can help transform misshapen ideas into ones that make sense.
Of course, we don't get to choose to become an apprentice of language. We're forced into it and, frequently, we're tutored by those who never made it to the level of Master. But that's what public schools are for... if they invest in great teaching and do the job they're intended to do.11/08/2017 #4 Peter Altschuler#1 I almost understand the mounting flaws among the young, @Dominique Petersen. Their schooling and their parents and the culture bear the blame (along with cuts to local education budgets, of course). What's inexplicable is the inability -- by people who should know better -- to write even simple declarative sentences. Yet maybe they're just trying to be young and hip and not so oh-so-20-minutes-ago.
But I have another target in my scope: the media. Their adoption and use of contemporary idiocies only perpetuates the notion that those phrases and words might be right. Examples? "Fail" as a noun, as in "an epic fail." Or "go missing," as if missing were a destination, instead of a state of (non)being. Apparently, "vanish" and "disappear" have, ahem... gone missing.11/08/2017 #2 Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess"Take grammar. Americans seem to think it’s absorbed by osmosis. That’s true, in a sense, but if the source is incorrect or corrupted, so are the lessons passed along to the children. If you be learned that this sentence done satisfies what you knows about English, well… you’re going to be at a distinct disadvantage."
Love, love, LOVE this, @Peter Altschuler! I know that there are a lot of ways to be smart and to be seen as being smart, and I realize that English grammar and usage may not be among someone's top strengths.
That being said, it is learnable. And it's necessary that we all learn it. The basics are everywhere -- in my posts and those of others -- because presenting ourselves as professionals means showing our ability to communicate in a professional manner. Otherwise, our smarts may not shine through; they may be buried under poorly constructed sentences or errors in word usage that turn readers or listeners away.
OK, enough. Yes. I wish more folks would pay attention to this basic way of showing their worth to others. Thanks for being such a strong voice here.
- Producer08/08/2017Why learn a foreign language?A few years ago, due to my work at that time, I felt the necessity and aspiration to learn to speak Arabic. My key stakeholders where based in Egypt, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia and I was desperate to improve my relationship with the team to make...
Comments09/08/2017 #17 AnonymousI agree with you... Languages is the best way to communicate with others, and pivot from fear to curiosity.
To answer to your open question : yes I'm "multilingual" I'm Moroccan, I try to speak English, French and Spanish 😂
PS : you can start here 'in Bebee" the same you did in your job, you' ll get better result learning words of all Arabic dialects all over the Arab world
Ma3a ssalama (classical Arabic) bsslama (Moroccan dialect) au revoir (French) hasta luego (Spanish)09/08/2017 #16 Ian Weinberg#15 Ja-nee ek is baie trots op my mede Suid Afrikaner! I agree with the sentiments expressed in the article and in the comments. I would dearly like to learn other languages but I fear that my language center is now well and truly atrophied. Saved however by the Google translator!09/08/2017 #15 CityVP 🐝 ManjitYou will like this article https://medium.com/@skmallick/a-better-way-to-learn-languages-34777b541e94 View moreYou will like this article https://medium.com/@skmallick/a-better-way-to-learn-languages-34777b541e94 So will @Ian Weinberg and @Edward Lewellen
@Ian Weinberg and @Gert Scholtz in addition will also love seeing the arrival of a equally bright fellow South African here at beBee ! Close08/08/2017 #8 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian#4 I was born in Egypt, so Arabic was the first language I learned. In the rush to learn English and French when we moved to Canada, I lost most of it.
I still understand it but, often, the words escaped me. Also, I have issues pronouncing certain words. When I try to say "vine leaves" it invariably comes out as "rabbit leaves"08/08/2017 #7 Javier 🐝 beBeeSpanish will be the most spoken language in the US by 2050 @javierbebee https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/spanish-will-be-the-most-spoken-language-in-the-us-by-2050 View moreSpanish will be the most spoken language in the US by 2050 @javierbebee https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/spanish-will-be-the-most-spoken-language-in-the-us-by-2050 vía @beBee Close08/08/2017 #1 Tausif MundrawalaEven I am multi-lingual where I can speak multiple languages. Kutchi is my mother tongue. Hindi, my national language. But I grew up speaking in English with my teachers , friends and school mates. I can speak Gujrati and little bit Tullu- A Manglorean language. I now want to focus on foreign languages and as an when time permits would try to learn as many languages as I can.
Thanks for sharing this buzz with us, @Anel Marx
- Producer06/08/2017The problem-solution fit of language learningWhat is your language-learning story? My language-learning story has to do with my interest in seeing the world and communicating with people from different countries and cultures. When I was growing up, my favorite book was the World Atlas. The...
- 31/07/2017How easy is it to learn your language? How about other languages you have tried? I learnt German which is easy as it's close to English, un petite peu Francais for travelling and Japanese which I also taught & is a hard language.
Comments01/08/2017 #13 Gert Scholtz@Louise Smith This is interesting Louise. I am Afrikaans speaking and English speakers in South Africa say it is quite difficult to learn. The Afrikaans grammar structure differs from English and spoken Afrikaans is not easy on the English tongue. Very nice post - I wonder what @Ian Weinberg would say - he is first language English yet can "praat die taal".01/08/2017 #7 Louise Smith#4 Actually those African (?) languages are very difficult. I think this is not an exhaustive list. And Maybe a bit Eurocentric.
I thought this was both speaking and writing. Asian and Arabic languages are definitely harder to read and write.
What languages have you tried to learn @Daniel Gutierrez Perez ?
- 12/07/2017How will your prospective new Spanish-preferring customer find your eCommerce store's pleated skirts when she's searching for 'faldas plisadas'? These multilingual optimization tricks make it easier for her to find you, and be served the language she wants on the first try.Killer SEO Tricks For Your Multilingual Shopify Store - Yappn Corp.yappn.com Now that you've localized your Shopify eCommerce store by going multilingual, how will your new clients find you? With great digital marketing SEO...
- 12/07/2017(Don't) disrespect the Speak Mandarin Campaign! Y'know, just one wrong character can really mess everything up. Great moments in bad translation!Speak Mandarin Campaign apologises for using wrong Chinese character in taglinewww.todayonline.com SINGAPORE — Organisers of this year’s Speak Mandarin Campaign have apologised for using a wrong word in a display at a launch event, which showed a Chinese character meaning “showing disrespect” instead of the one that means “read”. The two...
- 03/07/2017A history of Japanese languageThe Japanese Language This is a video all about the Japanese language, including its features and its history and development. Special thanks to the lovely and amazing Hiromi for...
- Producer30/05/2017Why We Need Accessible Foreign Language Learning?[ Image Description: A girl with brown hair on a laptop with white scribbled speech bubbles in the background around her, saying: " Hello", "Hallo", "Hola", " Bonjour", and "Ola". ] In seventh grade, I took a Spanish class because it was...
Comments24/06/2017 #2 Javier 🐝 beBee@Janelle Patterson can you imagine this?
Spanish will be the most spoken language in the US by 2050 @javierbebee https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/spanish-will-be-the-most-spoken-language-in-the-us-by-2050 vía @beBee
- Producer19/06/2017American Grammar Checkup: Traps for the Unwary, Part 4: PronounsThis is the fourth in a series highlighing common errors that are easy to make and miss when we're writing.You can see Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3 by clicking on the links.Everyone who has seen my posts over the last three years knows I'm a nut...
Comments19/06/2017 #1 Claire L Cardwell@Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess - despite my many silly jokes about favour, flavour etc. etc. and how Cillantro is something you give to a troubled horse. Corriander it what you use for Curries. I actually started really reading one of your articles again. Well to me that last sentence sounded v. clumsy and overworked, but I ate my hores in the park? I actually scanned to see how many interesting little wisdoms there were. I do firmly believe that if you want to make sure you don't drop your hypenated-post participle wot sit thing (and the British invented it.) you have to go to an American for Grammer/Grammar and Queen Elizabeth 11 for spelling.
- 20/06/2017Who let them in anyway? Don't they card at this place??? @Susan 🐝 Rooks, the Grammar Goddess
- 19/06/2017Basque native funny journalist gives Spanish lessons in Donostia-San Sebastián, European Capital of Culture 2016
I love Ireland and I improved my English there. Irish people are so nice and friendly that they say an unknown person is a friend you still don't know.
Let me show you unknown Donostia as well. We'll play, sing and have fun while learning Spanish and a little Euskera (Basque lenguage).
First lesson for free. Personal and individual. Lot of humour. You'll learn also slang.
It's easy to find me. Dare!
(My name is Basque and means cowboy. Get your own Basque name!)BSO Pulp Fiction (misirlou) with TXALAPARTA by HUTSUN HUTSUN taldearen azkeneko bihurrikeria hemen duzue. Bardeetan arrtsalde pasa egon eta gero eta xaguari 12.456 klik eman eta gero hau da emaitza! Goza...
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- 13/06/2017If the Internet perceives censorship as a malfunction and routes around it, so does business strategy when it encounters an obstacle like "English-only".Which States Are Best Prepared For The New World? - Yappn Corp.yappn.com Some may regard the U.S. as 'English-only', but a forward-thinking state's language roadmap prepares for the future with multilingual workforce...
- Producer11/06/2017Why and How to Make Languages Fun and Interesting in post-Brexit UKRecently I returned from the Polyglot Gathering in Bratislava, where I attended many interesting talks, including one by Seán Ó Riain on Brexit and languages in Europe.Ever since the Language Show Live in London, October 2016, featuring the Speak to...
Comments11/06/2017 #1 Vincent AndrewExcellent suggestions Dimitris.
I think one reason why people find it difficult to learn another language is that they don't see a need for it. For example, I want to learn Chinese but everyone here speaks English or Malay. If I am in an environment where Chinese language skills are needed, I may be more desperate to learn it.
Thank you for your buzz.
- 11/06/2017Pretty cool that two strangers can converse in 21 languages - and that the Macedonian fellow on the right speaks 35 of them, including five Spanish accents for different countries (vocalization localization - awesome!)unique encounter between 2 polyglots in 21 languages I can also sing in 14 languages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIwQ-19RSSs. I met this Macedonian hyperpolyglot at the Zaanse Schans and he speaks 35...
- If big business and many States continuing sustainability and committing to the Paris Accord goals are marching not just on but also around an idiot who just doesn't understand the real world, then the same thing is happening re the U.S.'s desperately growing need for multilingualism and global cultural competency as the "English only" dinosaurs endlessly whine about their lost manufacturing jobs. Move along, everyone, nothing to see here...Bilingual education in US in its infancy, but growingwww.sbs.com.au "Brazil, with a 'z' or an 's'?" asks a girl. 'In Spanish, it's with an 's,' in English with a 'z,'" another kid answers. Just another day in a bilingual class at a Los Angeles...
- Still not buying the notion that machine translation and AI will 'dry up' the work for human translators...although I think the nature of their work will change. I think they'll do more post-editing than they're accustomed to but that it will bring them revenue for work they could never have handled themselves. And that some translation projects you just can't entrust to a machine. Anyone got any of their own insights into the future of human translation?What happens as artificial intelligence encroaches on professional translation?english.hani.co.kr Translators are likely to see some of their work dry up, and will have to adopt a “startup mentality”, expert...
- Love this story! A Saskatchewan city fights xenophobia with a super-multilingual welcome sign. Hey, wasn't this an episode of "Little Mosque On The Prairie"? Except they forgot English and French...:)Regina neighbourhood saying 'welcome' in 22 languageswww.cbc.ca How many different ways can you say 'welcome'? Regina's Heritage Community Association displays 22 different...
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- 16/05/2017A history of mobility and global communication with some vintage pics of an ancient Palm Pilot, an even more ancient Batman game on an Apple II, and an old BBS (remember those?) Kids, you'll have to ask your parents about the olden days with ASCII & ANSI graphics ;)You've Got The Whole World In Your Hand - Yappn Corp.yappn.com How long did it take our world to fit into the palm of your hand? When did your community expand to include people in every country that you connect with via a device you keep in your pocket? The Post-Millennials, “Generation Z” are the only ones...