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  1. David B. Grinberg
    Kudos to @Rob McNaughton on this excellent blog post...

    cc: @Javier ๐Ÿ beBee @John White, MBA
    David B. Grinberg
    LinkedIn and my future.
    www.linkedin.com As a LinkedInยฎ user for the last six or so years I initially looked upon the Microsoft buyout of the LI platform with a degree of mild annoyance assuming that users would be changing from one set...
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  2. ProducerJordan Sands

    Jordan Sands

    19/12/2016
    Body and Mind Synergy Workshop.
    Body and Mind Synergy Workshop.I am excited to announce an amazingย collaborative workshop event !Mastering Synergic Mindset.Friday , January 27th 2017.0930-1500The Twelve Tellers. Function Room 1.14-15 Church Street, Preston, Lancashire. PR1 3BQThis workshop is a collaboration...
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  3. Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    beBee.com: Fascinating idea to combine a professional resume with personal hobbies and skills. There is certainly a market -
    Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    Why Millennials Don't Like Linkedin | The Huffington Post
    lnkd.in Linkedin is a powerful tool when used properly. It allows you to search for jobs, make connections with like minded people, join groups, and publish...
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    Michael Gorman
    20/12/2016 #6 Michael Gorman
    #4 Why is it on point, do you agree with it, do you have anything to share?
    Giampiero Vilardi
    19/12/2016 #5 Giampiero Vilardi
    beBee si dimostra un'iniziativa affascinante che รจ utile per mettersi in contatto attraverso le proprie passioni.
    Matt Sweetwood
    19/12/2016 #4 Matt Sweetwood
    This simple article is right on point. Great share.
    Lisa ๐Ÿ Gallagher
    19/12/2016 #3 Lisa ๐Ÿ Gallagher
    Shared on beBee & Twitter! More tweets to come :))
    Mamen ๐Ÿ Delgado
    19/12/2016 #2 Mamen ๐Ÿ Delgado
    #1 Woww, H for Huge Hole in the market!! You know the way...
  4. ProducerKnight Sherring

    Knight Sherring

    19/12/2016
    STAR SIGN.
    STAR SIGN.http://www.knightsherring.co.ukI would like to wish all my friends and followers a VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS & NEW...
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  5. ProducerMichael Rana

    Michael Rana

    17/12/2016
    LinkedIn and BeBee have their uses.  Let's give credit where credit is due.
    LinkedIn and BeBee have their uses. Let's give credit where credit is due.Now that Microsoft has closed on its deal with LinkedIn, there are articles surfacing about the future of this network. There are also many users who are frustrated with it. Ever since I learned about BeBee and joined it, I see that many people are...
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    David B. Grinberg
    19/12/2016 #20 David B. Grinberg
    Ditto Javier's comment below...
    Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    18/12/2016 #19 Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    @Michael Rana thanks for sharing this on beBee ! I read the linkedin's one :) .
    Pamela ๐Ÿ Williams
    18/12/2016 #18 Pamela ๐Ÿ Williams
    #16 That last line sounds like it should be your next meme Jim
    Jim Murray
    18/12/2016 #16 Jim Murray
    Nice Piece, @Michael Rana. I believe that the traditional rules of engagement no longer exist and so I post everything everywhere. You are right about beBee being relatively new compared to LinkedIn. But being able to direct your posts to LinkedIn from beBee is a huge plus, because for "everyday people" distribution from LinkedIn's publisher is a bad joke. Being able to direct your posts into special interest affinity based hives on BeBee is also a huge plus, as is being able to link to more other sites. For bloggers, it's a numbers game, and since coming to beBee 7 months ago my numbers and engagement on beBee dwarf the numbers I am allowed to achieve on LinkedIn. If it wasn't so easy to re-post there I probably wouldn't do it at all. I agree that LI is a powerful networking tool, but there is a lot of resentment that you will run into if you are too aggressive and that can hurt your brand and your reputation. But anyone who does not have beBee in their mix is missing out on a good opportunity to get well established in a new environment.
    Paul Walters
    18/12/2016 #15 Paul Walters
    @Michael Rana Great points. As a user of Li I simply plodded along until I fell instantly in love with Bebee . Its the connectivity on this site that I think is wonderful . Having said that I haven't given up on Li and slink back there a few times a week....bit slutty of me I know but then again.......
    Aleta Curry
    17/12/2016 #14 Aleta Curry
    #13 Good point, and fair enough. That was very well put, and I daresay it's the reason I'm still involved at LinkedIn as well!
    Michael Rana
    17/12/2016 #13 Michael Rana
    Honestly, aside of commentary left on the article's thread, I have no way to knowing who is reading I publish.

    The major takeaway for me for LI is that if you are considered an industry expert or established in your field, perhaps published in multiple places, you have a better chance of being recognized. While it might seem defeatist, I want to reach that goal of recognition on LI.#11
    Aleta Curry
    17/12/2016 #12 Aleta Curry
    I still use LinkedIn in, of course I do. Horses for courses, as my husband says. But I'm more optimistic about the long term future of beBee, and, to tell the truth, I like to know that people are reading what I write.

    For what I do, I think that beBee will eventually become *the* go-to social platform in my marketing plan, which is why I'm getting so involved while the platform is still small enough for me to be heard.
    Aleta Curry
    17/12/2016 #11 Aleta Curry
    #10 And this tells you that...? It's one thing to acknowledge that millions can potentially view one's post, but if they're never even going to see it, then...?
    Michael Rana
    17/12/2016 #10 Michael Rana
    900+ views in 13 hours. This same post still hasn't pushed 200 in one day on LI.
    Joseph Sprute
    17/12/2016 #9 Joseph Sprute
    beBee is bees in search of at least one hive. Linkedin is a pretend vision of how to get rich...
    Joseph Sprute
    17/12/2016 #8 Joseph Sprute
    give credit to a marketing monster? who would i be referring to?
    Zacharias Voulgaris
    17/12/2016 #7 Zacharias Voulgaris
    Even though LI is great for exhibiting your professional persona, I never got a job from it. Also the job search feature is rudimentary, unless you invest in the professional packages. It seems that it's run its course. Now it's time to move on to newer and better places...
    Tony ๐Ÿ Rossi
    17/12/2016 #6 Tony ๐Ÿ Rossi
    Perfect expression of the whole point of what we're doing here! Thanks for the great analysis!
    Michael Rana
    17/12/2016 #5 Michael Rana
    I post this seven hours ago and I already have more than 300 views to LI's 125 (I think was last count).
    CityVP Manjit
    17/12/2016 #4 CityVP Manjit
    I have no problem with LinkedIn - and the more this comparison between beBee and LinkedIn is made, it actually takes away from beBee has its own identity, meaning and way. Just because Britain used Australia as a penal colony does not define the character and history of Australia, unless one focuses on the penal colony alone rather than on the indigenous people of Australia and the multiplicity of the cultures that have emerged in that country ever since, then all we get is a distorted picture.

    In marketing terms drawing a distinction between LinkedIn and beBee is simply a brand awareness exercise to let people know that there is an alternative, but beBee is distinct from LinkedIn. It is like saying that LinkedIn vs Facebook is thing that most people care about - no - only a handful of people disaffected by Facebook care about that, the vast majority ask a basic question

    "What does this do for me?"

    By a person's actions, the answer is in that question. I am not one of the disaffected and there were also 10 million bee's before I arrived and hopefully there will be a billion bee's after my time is done on this Earth of ours. So I am totally in favour of giving credit where credit is due and at the same time, because I firmly believe that one needs to know one's own strengths and work with those, rather than hope for crumbs that fall off from the masters table. Comparison shopping only works if the mass feel that too and not just an elite or any disgruntled minority. For me beBee has it's own unique character and I celebrate that.
    Lisa ๐Ÿ Gallagher
    17/12/2016 #3 Lisa ๐Ÿ Gallagher
    You drew nice contrasts with this buzz @Michael Rana!
    Michael Rana
    17/12/2016 #2 Michael Rana
    Short of a better blurb as the one on LI, let's see how well this one performs and compare metics.
  6. Bert Purdy

    Bert Purdy

    19/12/2016
    Forbes Welcome
    www.forbes.com Why are these six LinkedIn headlines the worst possible branding choices? Here's...
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  7. Bert Purdy

    Bert Purdy

    19/12/2016
    Bert Purdy
    5 Tips for Promoting Your Business on LinkedIn
    fortune.com While not as hip as Snapchat, it's likely more important for your company's...
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  8. Candice Galek ๐Ÿ
    I loved this article recently, what do you think? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-letter-working-women-we-need-do-more-than-lean-lead-beth-crocker #WomenLeaders Candice Galek ๐Ÿ
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  9. Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    @Javier ๐Ÿ beBee - I think you do all 4 better. @John White, MBA great info for your next CEO's and social media series... :)

    1. Talk about the things that matter to you
    2. Add your own voice to the content you share
    3. Do the posting yourself
    4. Experiment and make mistakes
    Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    LinkedIn CEO Jeff Weiner Shares 4 Tips for Engaging on Social Media
    business.linkedin.com If youโ€™re one of the 4.8 million people who follow Jeff Weiner on LinkedIn, you probably feel like you know him. Between his likes, shares, comments, and long-form posts, youโ€™re likely familiar with his leadership style, his passion for tech, and...
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    Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    19/12/2016 #11 Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    #10 That was my sincere take-away. Did you read down to the bit about this quote: "You may be surprised to learn that Jeff was uncomfortable on social media when he first started out using it"

    Cynically, I know that bit is to make old-school CEO's comfortable. But clearly he wasn't "authentically passionate" about his 'product' from the get-go....

    John is going to be able to dine out on the pivots from this 'post' (ok ad) for awhile :)
    David B. Grinberg
    19/12/2016 #10 David B. Grinberg
    Very interesting and telling coming from LI CEO Weiner who never used the word "engagement" in his recent open blog post to users regarding sharing updates on the MS merger approval (really, he didn't use "engagement" even once in his piece, not once. Talk about hypocritical and disingenuous). https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/linkedin-microsoft-our-next-play-begins-jeff-weiner?trk=hp-feed-article-title-like
    Paul Walters
    18/12/2016 #8 Paul Walters
    never really was that fond of mr Weiner's 'wisdom'
    Mohammed A. Jawad
    18/12/2016 #7 Mohammed A. Jawad
    Tips in brevity, which tutors how to be(e) relevant, practical, engaging and moving on and keep trying. :)
    Jan Barbosa
    18/12/2016 #5 Jan Barbosa
    Great tips !!!
    Michael Rana
    18/12/2016 #4 Michael Rana
    Between those four, I think it's part of what's contributed to my success on here.
    Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    18/12/2016 #3 Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    โ€œIt comes down to authenticity,โ€ he told the crowd at Talent Connect 2016. Social media is the place to โ€œauthentically communicate what you are most passionate about, what inspires you, and what youโ€™ve learned or experienced that others can benefit from.โ€ HMMMM, says Deb. He'll be opening a beBee account any day now....
    Emily๐Ÿ Bee
    18/12/2016 #2 Emily๐Ÿ Bee
    Great buzz, @Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich, I appreciated this read!
  10. Claude Avilez

    Claude Avilez

    18/12/2016
    Claude Avilez
    The Heart of Europe | Luxury Properties in Dubai
    www.thoe.com The Heart of Europe in Dubai consists of 6 stunning islands that will be home of Europe's charming features โ€“ a unique holiday...
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  11. ProducerJoseph Sprute

    Joseph Sprute

    17/12/2016
    Linkedin FAIL$ US.e
    Linkedin FAIL$ US.eI was banned from Linkedin for use of profanity and honesty in the face of fascist stupidity.You have made unavailable ERES Institute's valuable work towards knowledge of The BEAST, including how to identify "assholes" and "bitches" and what to do...
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    Joseph Sprute
    17/12/2016 #1 Joseph Sprute
    ps... seeking Asylum from Amurderca, and our way of life syndrome @i need permanent work #willing to commit ERES PlayNAC
  12. ProducerMichael Rana

    Michael Rana

    17/12/2016
    I am a millennial and I have seen success on BeBee
    I am a millennial and I have seen success on BeBeeI will admit that I chose the image of minions for three reasons: ย They're now a pop culture icon, they bring a smile to people's faces, and because just before I woke up at 0340CST to startย producing this honey, they are what were on my mind as I...
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    Andrew ๐Ÿ Goldman
    19/12/2016 #26 Andrew ๐Ÿ Goldman
    That's an awesome example, Michael! beBee is doing a great job and it's just a beginning. Li seem to be going down the mountain in their life cycle, unfortunately. Thank you for the post!
    Paul Burge
    19/12/2016 #25 Paul Burge
    A fantastic post @Michael Rana! Really interesting to read about your experience with beBee as a millenial. Tonnes of new features coming very soon too...
    Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    18/12/2016 #24 Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    #21 @Michael Rana - can you think of any other company where the CEO would notice your contributions? I mean you in the plural sense as a millennial. Everyone is talking about how important it is to your cohorts to add value & be heard and beBee is a place where the value added is noticed from the foundation to the top.
    Iyobosa Ero
    18/12/2016 #23 Iyobosa Ero
    Spot on!
    Matt Sweetwood
    18/12/2016 #22 Matt Sweetwood
    beBee is built for millennial success! Glad to see you with us. Buzz On!
    Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    18/12/2016 #21 Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    @Michael Rana , you are a very active bee ! So it is the result of your work !!
    Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    18/12/2016 #19 Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    What a great buzz ! beBee is working hard on a new great platform that is coming soon ! Thanks a lot!
    Randy Keho
    18/12/2016 #18 Randy Keho
    Sharing content from beBee to the other platforms is a great way to increase your exposure and create interest.
    I've also found it helpful to produce a blog, using the content produced on beBee. It increases exposure for you and beBee.
    Michael Rana
    18/12/2016 #17 Michael Rana
    Thank you for reading.#16
    Donna Gordon
    18/12/2016 #16 Donna Gordon
    I found this an interesting and informative piece, thanks for sharing Michael.
    Donna Gordon
    18/12/2016 #15 Donna Gordon
    I found this an interesting and informative piece
    Franci๐ŸEugenia Hoffman
    18/12/2016 #14 Franci๐ŸEugenia Hoffman
    You're a breath of fresh air, Michael. Non-partial and informative piece.
    Michael Rana
    17/12/2016 #13 Michael Rana
    Much appreciated!#12
    Pamela ๐Ÿ Williams
    17/12/2016 #12 Pamela ๐Ÿ Williams
    What a great evaluation of social media. It struck me as non-opinionated but a simple statement of your experience. Well done @Michael Rana!!. I just tried to tag you, realized I wasn't following you and so went to my newsfeed, followed you and came back to tag. I love this site! It's fun I can do that.
    Sharing across the board!
    Michael Rana
    17/12/2016 #11 Michael Rana
    #9 Thanks!

    What shall I write about next?
    Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    17/12/2016 #10 Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    #9 You are already being syndicated, @Michael Rana. That is influence, beBee-style.

    Way to spread the love, Jan!
    Jan Barbosa
    17/12/2016 #9 Jan Barbosa
    BTW @Michael Rana liked one of your articles a lot, and included it in my The Week In Social Media Volume 10... Keep On Buzzing !!!
    Sushmita Thakare Jain
    17/12/2016 #8 Sushmita Thakare Jain
    Lovely buzz @Michael Rana ๐Ÿ and thank you for sharing your experience keep buzzing as well as in touch and BTW love the image I love Minions
    Lisa ๐Ÿ Gallagher
    17/12/2016 #7 Lisa ๐Ÿ Gallagher
    #6 Awesome buzz @Michael Rana! I'm going to post this to twitter where I believe we are gaining more millennials. I'm glad your user experience has been so positive! Keep on rocking out your buzzes, they are great and full of pertinent info! @Paul Walters, I'm glad to see you were able to get online but sorry to hear you're still having issues. I hope the issues resolve soon.
  13. Lance Scoular  ๐Ÿ
    Viveka von Rosen (who I connected with on LinkedIn via Twitter back in April 2009) provides a useful LinkedIn post and video on "What is the Difference Between the Old LinkedIn User Interface and the New UI in 2017 (and Why Should You Care?)"
    Lance Scoular  ๐Ÿ
    What is the Difference Between the Old LinkedIn User Interface and the New UI in 2017 (and Why Should You Care?)
    www.linkedin.com LinkedInโ€™s New Look LinkedIn's new user interface is here.ย Well, itโ€™s here for some of us โ€“ like my friend Kate Paine. I donโ€™t have it yet, so a huge thank you to Kate for giving me access to her...
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    John White, MBA
    17/12/2016 #2 John White, MBA
    #1 What do you think @Charles David Upchurch? Seems like a downgrade to me at first glance.
    Charles David Upchurch
    16/12/2016 #1 Charles David Upchurch
    Sharing this to the LinkedIn hive on beBee, @Lance
  14. George Touryliov
    You may have heard that LinkedIn is upgrading and revamping its widely used main Website. The LinkedIn/Social Selling experts here have been poring over the new site and interface. Watch this Free On-Demand Webinar to learn - What's new; What's changed; Whatโ€™s gone and/or moved... - http://bit.ly/2gJmkdtGeorge Touryliov
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    George Touryliov
    16/12/2016 #2 George Touryliov
    #1 Thanks @Mohammed Sultan. Nice point, indeed. But my point - using of existing and free know-how may free some additional time for real creativity, instead of wasting that time for "very creative" click-what-happened / click-what-wrong learning, also known as "method of scientific mouse click". :-) Sure, manuals and on-line helpers were invented by people with no imagination - however. :-)
    Mohammed Sultan
    16/12/2016 #1 Mohammed Sultan
    Do people need a plan to break their daily routine on social media?.They really want to travel imaginatively to reach the point of exact fit between the reality and logic of linked in and the dream and and passion of beBee.
    A click here or a double click there ,you at the end will follow the brand with feeling that can stretch your strategic thinking not the one which is extending the recipes of cooked plans.
    What makes strategic planning unique is that it's not concerned with the logic of the take-away plans,but with the thoughts ,feeling and attitudes which influence a change in customers perceptions.Perhaps the creativity of people will never be susceptible to the prestige of pre-determined plans, but by the ability of the creative people to use their mind and act in state of imperfect knowledge.
  15. ProducerLoribeth Pierson
    When You Have A Choice Choose Kindness. You Always Have A Choice.
    When You Have A Choice Choose Kindness. You Always Have A Choice.I would like to thank you for joining me and reading the "12 days of LinkedIn Tips".Your tip today is to choose kindness. The world needs a bit more of that today. When you comment on a post instead of arguing with other people's point of view,...
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  16. George Touryliov
    Hey! What about your #beBee #profiles? Have you refreshed your presence here? I'd saw lots of uncompleted.
    Reviewing your LinkedIn presence on a regular basis ensures that you add new accomplishments and get rid of irrelevant information. In this article, youโ€™ll discover seven easy ways to get your LinkedIn presence ready for the new year.
    George Touryliov
    7-Step Checklist to Refresh Your LinkedIn Profile : Social Media Examiner
    www.socialmediaexaminer.com Wondering if your LinkedIn profile is up to date? Discover seven easy ways to review, assess, and refresh your LinkedIn...
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  17. Bert Purdy

    Bert Purdy

    16/12/2016
    Bert Purdy
    1 Simple Strategy to Stand Out on LinkedIn
    www.inc.com It can feel counterintuitive at first, but this approach works wonders in attracting new clients on...
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  18. Aleta Curry

    Aleta Curry

    16/12/2016
    Well, it's not just bees shaking their heads over LinkedIn's 'influencer' list, LinkedIn members are, too. I love reading the comments on posts, they're often more entertaining than the original post itself!

    Some of the great questions people were asking were what, no 'influencers' in Africa/China, etc. And someone brought up the lack of non-profits in the list.

    Here's a link to a very interesting response. Have a read.
    Aleta Curry
    LinkedInโ€™s Top Voices and influencers strangely silent about โ€ฆ
    www.linkedin.com
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    Aleta Curry
    18/12/2016 #8 Aleta Curry
    #6 My pleasure, @Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    Mamen ๐Ÿ Delgado
    18/12/2016 #7 Mamen ๐Ÿ Delgado
    Interesting @Aleta Curry... Thanks for sharing!!
    Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    18/12/2016 #6 Javier ๐Ÿ beBee
    Thanks for sharing this @Aleta Curry
    Franci๐ŸEugenia Hoffman
    16/12/2016 #5 Franci๐ŸEugenia Hoffman
    Most interesting.
    Kevin Baker
    16/12/2016 #4 Kevin Baker
    this is excellent . always question everything every way possible
    Milos Djukic
    16/12/2016 #2 Anonymous
    Thank you @Aleta Curry. As you know , I am a great "admirer" of LI "Influencer" marketing .
    Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    16/12/2016 #1 Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    That was great , thank you for sharing it.
  19. ProducerScott Engler

    Scott Engler

    16/12/2016
    The Future of Job (In) Security:  The Problem & The Solution Excerpt
    The Future of Job (In) Security: The Problem & The Solution Excerpt This is the introduction for a recent excerpt I put together that seemed to get a lot of popularity with the job seeking community on LinkedIn.**For access to the full version of "The Problem & Solution" at no cost, please visit...
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  20. ProducerPhil Friedman

    Phil Friedman

    30/11/2016
    Differentiation Thru Conversation: BeBee and the Quest for Market Share
    Differentiation Thru Conversation: BeBee and the Quest for Market ShareTHE LION'S SHARE OF ANY MARKET GOES TO THE FIRM THAT BEST DIFFERENTIATES ITSELF FROM THE COMPETITION...Preface:ย  This piece could have been titled "With Some More Help For My Friends", as it is, in many respects, a natural sequel to "With a Little...
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    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #161 Phil Friedman
    Well yes, Nic, because there are a number of LinkedIn-malcontents on beBee who battled for nearly two years to keep LI from shooting itself in the foot -- which I guess it didn't do given its recent sale for $26 billion. Cheers!
    Nic Fester
    16/12/2016 #160 Nic Fester
    There you go @Phil Friedman offering my muscles some resistance once again. Smart man! You know, I wouldn't know so much about LinkedIn if it hadn't been for beBee...
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #158 Phil Friedman
    #157 Debasish, I agree with you, in the main. I know of no Ambassador who has openly said he or she will not accept the promised future contingent compensation when the platform is sold or gathers significant additional capital investment. So, despite a number of protests and assertions that beBee Brand Ambassadors are not "paid agents of the company", the fact remains that they are. And I don't really know whether that situation is any more questionable than Advocate or Influencer Marketing in general, in which product or services endorsers are paid for their positive reviews. What I do know is that it seriously dilutes the value of what we used to call in print-based marketing and advertising "independent third-party" endorsement. Cheers!
    debasish majumder
    16/12/2016 #157 debasish majumder
    to be very honest, all ambassadors are having an inherent desire to gain themselves financially. but, the hypocrisy is that, all are apparently show in ostentation that they are least bother of individual gain. beBee is becoming popular out of ambassadors sincere approach to make it a distinct one. our contributions are should be focused on making it an exquisite social platform. we must not deviate from our expression. lest we will prove that, we are equally crazy for dividend only, not having the patience to make this social networking site as a distinct one. however, nice insight @Phil Friedman! we need to introspect ourselves.
    John Vaughan
    16/12/2016 #156 John Vaughan
    #155 In the interests of transparency @Phil Friedman, I've zeroed out the negatives on your Comments #136, #138, and #141 here because they deserve it and just because it's .... right.

    I, too, will be impressed sh*tless when beBee embraces ethical fairness with the same vigor as they put into promotion, LinkedIn-bashing, and a self-serving interpretation of 'positivism'.

    Thanks again for being a useful, trusted contributor.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #155 Phil Friedman
    #152 Thanks, John. Interesting to note that someone zeroed out the ups on my comment on your post, and has done the same thing here on your comment on my post. It is a prime example of how you cannot give the user base tools for expressing anonymous dissent and expect it not to be used and abused punitively and spitefully. When you click a "relevant" on a piece, hovering over the notice pops up a list of those, including you, who have clicked relevant. But there is even more motivation to bring transparency to actions which are negative expressions.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #154 Phil Friedman
    #153 Thank you, Jared, for reading and sharing... and for the kind words. Cheers!
    Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    15/12/2016 #153 Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    Very solid piece, Phil. I enjoyed it a lot and am sharing...
    John Vaughan
    13/12/2016 #152 John Vaughan
    Nice, much-needed "truthing', @Phil Friedman. Thanks

    Definitely agree that beBee would be well-served to embrace some of the viable Group Management techniques that were pioneered-and-them-abandoned by LinkedIn. Sounds familiar. At the very least, there's the "well, duh' insight that abandoning support for Groups was why many of us abandoned LinkedIn.

    I believe that we also agree about the problematic role of advocacy ambassadors in "priming the pump" (https://www.bebee.com/producer/@john-vaughan/priming-the-pump), 'most are spending their time in concierge services and in boosting each other on beBee itself"

    Not that there shouldn't be a role for knowledgeable solutions folks to crowdsource some wisdom into a platform that's still struggling (imperfectly). For a coupla weeks there, I think beBee even toyed with the notion of offering equity compensation (i.e. 'ambassadorship') for something other than self-marketing, but not for long... Too bad. It is what it is *shrug*
    Phil Friedman
    10/12/2016 #151 Phil Friedman
    #128 #129 Thank you, Juan, for reading and commenting. And for the kind words. Contrary to a few (very few) interpretations expressed in this thread, I have in no way said that I wanted to control how beBee develops or how it's operating procedures have to be. As always, I have only expressed my opinion and recommendations as to what I believe would be advantageous to the stable growth and ultimate success of beBee -- based on my experience in business and as an active user of social media since about 2009. And I believe that you and Javier understand that. My thanks to you for what you guys have done to keep the platform open to independent writers and to keep the playing field reasonably level. Cheers!
    Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    08/12/2016 #150 Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    #149 So what you are saying here Phil is that you want the power to choose who can give you a critique of your work.

    Why?

    It seems to me that the more eyes you have on it, the better chance you have of someone catching something the others would miss.

    In my mind you are only limiting your own potential for growth in this practice.
    Phil Friedman
    08/12/2016 #149 Phil Friedman
    #148 Pretty obviously, Elizabeth, closed groups should not predominate on a "social" media platform. But, as a natural matter, they would never do so because the owners of most groups want high membership numbers. But sometimes and for some purposes, a closed group works best. (Closed in the sense that only group members can see the interactions.) I own a long-established writer's group on LinkedIn, which was closed, And because it was, members could comfortably discuss their work candidly, critique each other's ideas, styles, and so on -- and in general have a sometimes raucous good time without fear of being ridiculed by trolls or others.

    I also own an industry-specific group there, which is composed mostly of industry professionals and business people in that sector, and before LI changed the rules concerning moderation, we had many very informative and intense conversations about issues pertaining to the particular industry sector involved. You just can't do that when anybody and his brother can willy nilly post whatever blather they feel like posting, relevant or not, informed or not.

    My point is that private and closed groups can work out better when set up and run properly. As I'm sure you will agree, although one had the right to speak his or her minds, we don't have the right to force everyone to listen or to expect free access to all conversations.

    Thank you for reading and commenting. Cheers!
    Elizabeth Bailey
    07/12/2016 #148 Elizabeth Bailey
    Well I may as well add my ha'pennys worth. I hate the thought of being excluded from a group I requested to join, but ... I am a member of a number of closed VA groups on Facebook which is a safe place for VAs to ask for advice or help. It is a very valuable resource and I wouldn't be without it.
    Robert Bacal
    07/12/2016 #147 Robert Bacal
    #141 I agree that more tools are good. I also believe that if you want TOTAL control over the tools you get, set up your own damned forums on your own domains, and then you can do exactly as you wish, and stop being dependent on, and whining to companies that owe you nothing.

    Why smart people continue to rely on third party platforms, WHILE complaining all the time is beyond me. You and others bash linkedin incessantly, and no doubt you'll do the same if BeBee doesn't do as you wish.

    Such a sense of entitlement, and helplessness. Get off your duff and do it. The only way to get what you want.
    Phil Friedman
    07/12/2016 #146 Phil Friedman
    All - your engagement and contributions to this conversation are genuinely appreciated. For those who may not have seen or read it, the following post is recommended as a precursor of this one: ( https://www.bebee.com/producer/@friedman-phil/affinity-networking-is-on-the-line ) Thank you all for all your contributions. Sometimes the comments and discussion are more important than the post itself, and this is, I think one of those times.
    Phil Friedman
    07/12/2016 #145 Phil Friedman
    Thank you, @Andrew Goldman and @David B. Grinberg for liking and sharing this post.,I think the conversation is important, indeed, more important than the piece itself. Thank you, as well, for your support.
    Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    07/12/2016 #144 Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    #141 Thanks for the profile view Phil on Li I appreciate yo tasking an interest in me.
    Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    07/12/2016 #143 Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    #141 The Ted Unoffical grou Ideas wiorth spreading.

    I was a moderator for a while and got an intimate look at the process.

    It really is as simple as adding the ability to add moderators or admins to a hive and then it is a matter of the hive owner working with hive members.

    It's this simple Phil, beBee in spirit is about including people and not using the same old tired processes to exclude people based on personal whims or a need to have the the illusion of control fulfilled
    Phil Friedman
    07/12/2016 #141 Phil Friedman
    #139 Really? Being a MEMBER of a group has nothing to do with it. And if you were a MANAGER of an LI group with 500,000 members, please tell us which one. I am saying that as an experienced owner and/or manager of several profession- and industry-specific groups and of one of the few business-related hives on beBee, my considered opinion is that the additional tools suggested in this post would help make management of certain types of hives more feasible. I am not suggesting that anyone tell you how to run your hive(s) or groups. You may do as you wish. What I don't see is why you don't want to reciprocate and allow me to run my hive(s) the way I see fit. Let's just agree that this is a matter of opinion and personal preference and leave it at that.
    Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    07/12/2016 #139 Max๐Ÿ J. Carter
    #136 No one is forcing anyone to take on the responsibility of running a hive.

    Phil I spent more than a year in Li's biggest group with over half a million members and the best way to address your issue is to allow Hive owners to give others in the Hive administrator privileges and then it is all volunteer and takes inspiring your Hive to work with you.
  21. ProducerJoseph Sprute

    Joseph Sprute

    15/12/2016
    Get Over IT
    Get Over ITAs a committed writer involved with the summary of elements needed for the root understanding of key issues it was a difficult fact for me to digest Linkedin would ban me for working in an honest element toward worthy causes.Tactically the same...
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    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #24 Joseph Sprute
    if you don't want to be programmatic, stop pretending you aren't part computer @whoever really cares
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #23 Joseph Sprute
    if you have a well-formed question (meaning you have thought about it by considering MyWay -- FIRST = best respect), then you are programmatically "permitted" to enter my process/structure ... that's how "i/I" function
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #22 Joseph Sprute
    anyone. anyone... who cannot produce a well-formed question needs help. should they be asking me for help? not over the Internet is my answer
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #21 Joseph Sprute
    be you Phil, i'm venting... it's part of the Get Over IT process. i don't think i've been mean to anyone. stupid and dipshit are two words i'm familiar with
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #20 Phil Friedman
    #18 #13 Joseph, I'm dropping out of this thread because there is no reason for anyone to be rude. Sorry to hear about your problem with LinkedIn, but nobody here has done anything to you except engage in a friendly manner. And you need to consider aiming expressions of your frustration at appropriate targets.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #19 Phil Friedman
    #13 Aurorasa, the essence of the laws pertaining to restraint of trade has to do with equality of treatment, and has to do with interstate commerce (commerce across state lines). If you are a consultant who charges one client more than another, you are not in danger of violating such restraint of trade laws because the two situations are not identical, if for no other reason than the clients are each different from one another and present different challenges in the course of advising and coaching. So, no need to hit the panic pedal.
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #18 Joseph Sprute
    Aurorasa, i'm gonna stick to Einstein's theory of stupid and ignore you until you can produce a well-formed question. @passive resistence
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #17 Joseph Sprute
    Linkedin falsified my records, hid the truth concerning "MyWay" and banned me for calling a few dipshits by name. The PIG$ in Arkansas almost killed me for crying out for help, and the Medical Establishment virtually ruined my capacity to perform as a human being. @who the fuck are you? @Happy Friday
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #16 Joseph Sprute
    i started realizing "their" anti-trust SCAM, and that is the reason i was banned @dipshits...!
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #15 Joseph Sprute
    Deb, most of what I write is aimed at folks like Phil and Mike, for the Yin Yang effect... nice to see you here. Tell Linkedin they are in a LOT of trouble.
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #14 Joseph Sprute
    Phil gives good description. JAS is a good example of who not to burn. The FED knows why...
    Aurorasa Sima
    16/12/2016 #13 Aurorasa Sima
    #11 Wow, thanks for educating me. I had no idea that I am breaking the law if I sell to you more expensive because I donยดt like your face.

    If I understand the term correctly it applies to anyone trading US wide? Or does that not apply to small entities like freelancers and (virtual) consulting services?
    debasish majumder
    16/12/2016 #12 debasish majumder
    this is perhaps the first post, i am reading of your, which appears comprehensible to me @Joseph Sprute! and i liked it. being a little educated person, majority of your posts in LinkedIn, appears incomprehensible to me. yet, i liked your eagerness to be engaged with your connections. this one is nice post. thank you for the share sir.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #11 Phil Friedman
    #7 Michael, here's how it goes. Any person or firm who engages in interstate commerce becomes subject to Federal anti-restraint of trade laws. These laws are, in part, designed to counter "unfair" discriminatory practices in commerce that hurt certain individuals, while benefitting others. It does not matter whether the firm engaging in interstate commerce is private or not. For example, if I sell WonkaWidgets to hardware wholesalers on a generally open basis, that is, without some form of authorized dealer contract, I literally cannot refuse to sell WonkaWidgets to you at the same price (adjusted for volume), on the same terms, simply because I don't like your face. It interferes with your constitutional rights. ("..."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness ...) By law, I have to treat you as I treat everyone else in the marketplace. Understand that means I can refuse to sell to you if you are not one of my authorized dealers, PROVIDED I have a system of contracted, authorized dealers. I can refuse to sell less than 100 widgets to you at a time, PROVIDED that my minimum required order of 100 units is required generally and not simply an arbitrary decision not to sell to you.

    If LinkedIn holds itself out -- which it does -- as a key marketplace for finding a job all across the country (e.g., employer in California searches on LI to find and hire employee resident in Maine = interstate commerce), then arbitrarily bans you from the platform on a basis that is unfairly discriminatory, and which interferes with your ability to get a job and make a living, then as I understand the Federal laws, LinkedIn is guilty of restraint of trade under Federal law.

    Not saying I am a lawyer, or that my interpretation is bullet proof. Just an interesting current question. Cheers!
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #9 Joseph Sprute
    #6 linkedin is an intelligence sham used by special interests to market "mainstream" (e.g. there is no hole in our pole) business intents, to pretend hope among people influencing monetary opinion, and offer specific advice in areas where business media can act appropriately, or at least honor those who care enough to participate.
    Joseph Sprute
    16/12/2016 #8 Joseph Sprute
    #6 since my participation in Linkedin was voluntary, and because every word written there was considered (as they are here), even in light of expected objection(s), their choice to ban me was their choice. i was also their loss, because the work I do is Open Source, and their mantra of being Linked-In lacks a CLEAR application. i have no doubt any remedy will exist into the future, though punitive reasoning only illuminates a greater need
    Michael Rana
    16/12/2016 #7 Michael Rana
    Care to explain that violation? They're a private network who can ban/allow as they choose.#6
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #6 Phil Friedman
    LinkedIn represents itself as a forum or marketplace for commercial activity, selling goods and services, finding jobs and hiring people, and so on. I have wondered for some time whether "banning" someone from being a user might not constitute a violation of Federal free trade legislation under the terms of the Sherman Anti-trust Act and related law. Might take a class action suit to determine the situation. Cheers!
    Joseph Sprute
    15/12/2016 #5 Joseph Sprute
    :)
    Joseph Sprute
    15/12/2016 #4 Joseph Sprute
    #3 probably, dipshit...
  22. Michael Rana

    Michael Rana

    15/12/2016
    Not bad for a non-public figure whose comparison article of two networks was published a little under 20 hours ago.

    Now to find a way to make my content spread wings and fly further!
    Michael Rana
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    Michael Rana
    15/12/2016 #2 Michael Rana
    I'm always opening to learning something new. I'm seeing that I'm now getting more followers on Twitter.#1
    Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    15/12/2016 #1 Deb ๐Ÿ Helfrich
    Comment, @Michael Rana. A strategic commenting approach brought me - in under 90 days - from 33 connections (all former colleagues at one job) to having my 4th post seen by 3000 people, ~150 comments, plus likes from Reid Hoffman, Daniel Roth, and Fred Kofman - the co-founder and 2 prominent VP's of LI.

    It happened because I talked to other people and showed genuine interest in what they were talking about.

    Maybe I should finish off that e-book.....or offer consultation. What do you think? Would a strategy session of an entirely unique approach be useful to you?
  23. George Touryliov
    Recruitment giant Hays shares secrets on how to rise to the top on social media - however, these tips and facts on being socially engaged may be useful for any kind of business.
    George Touryliov
    How Staffing Agencies Can Maximize LinkedIn
    theundercoverrecruiter.com There's no shortage of staffing agencies out there, but few maximise the use of LinkedIn for business building and and general branding. ย Trying to keep...
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  24. ProducerLoribeth Pierson
    STOP THE INSANITY... AVOID SENDING THE CANNED TEXT MESSAGE FOR NEW INVITES.
    STOP THE INSANITY... AVOID SENDING THE CANNED TEXT MESSAGE FOR NEW INVITES.STOP SENDING CANNED TEXT MESSAGES! Just because LinkedIn provides the text when you request to connect with people, that doesnโ€™t mean that you should use it. Remember, networking is all about bringing the value to the relationship. You will...
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    debasish majumder
    17/12/2016 #24 debasish majumder
    nice insight @Loribeth Pierson! enjoyed read. thank you for the share.
    Gloria Ochoa ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿพ ๐Ÿ’ซ โ˜•
    17/12/2016 #23 Anonymous
    I am with you @JosephSprute I also send a personal thank you. I word it so I know if they asked ME to connect or if I invited them. It helps when I get a 2nd response from them immediately selling me a service. It tells me they didnt connect to network, they connected only to sell me something. THAT is more annoying to me than a canned connection request.
    Ross Campbell
    17/12/2016 #22 Ross Campbell
    Well said, I agree. The most impersonal thing in the inbox is the generic invite.

    I keep my own templates and alter to suit the individual's experience or interest or a commonality.

    Be personal! You are not connecting to a profile, you are connecting to a person!!
    Andrew Young
    17/12/2016 #21 Andrew Young
    Nice article @Loribeth Pierson. I personalize all my LinkedIn connection requests.
    Joseph Sprute
    17/12/2016 #20 Joseph Sprute
    i made a personal thank you note to everyone who accepted the canned invite that is...
    Joseph Sprute
    17/12/2016 #19 Joseph Sprute
    i sent canned invites but gave every single one of the more than 1000 contacts i made before Linkedin banned me from "their" publicly traded network
    Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    16/12/2016 #18 Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    #16 I agree. It shows you went the extra mile and are not just clicking to connect.
    Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    16/12/2016 #17 Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    #15 thanks for your perspective and adding to the discussion.
    Loribeth Pierson
    16/12/2016 #16 Loribeth Pierson
    #3 It helps to open up the conversation with a personalized message. It shows you took the time and would really like to keep the conversation going after they accept.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #15 Phil Friedman
    #12 Jared, with all due respect to you and Loribeth, I think the LinkedIn schtick about "bringing value to the relationship" is in many ways just smoke. If you're contacting me to sell me something (more often than not the case), that is not bringing value to the relationship, irrespective of how you try to spin it. If you have a wide array of contacts in the marine industry or significant industry experience and knowledge that you are willing to share with me, that's bringing value to the relationship. Getting to know me and my business better... or my coming up algorithmically on your list of suggested contacts to make are not bringing value to any potential relationship. And I'd rather see the BC factor kept at a minimum and simply be contacted because that is what LinkedIn and other platforms constantly tell people they should do. I know, I know, Dale Carnegie is rolling over in his (shallow) grave. Cheers!
    Loribeth Pierson
    16/12/2016 #14 Loribeth Pierson
    #2 Yes, you have to be careful when changing the message out. I have done that before then sent a sorry for sending two names.
    Loribeth Pierson
    16/12/2016 #13 Loribeth Pierson
    #1 Yes, it does, I found that out the hard way many years ago. Lol
    Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    16/12/2016 #12 Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    #11 Now I see where you are coming from. I can understand your perspective.

    I also think @Loribeth Pierson, like many other LinkedIn trainers, feel the same as she said: if you are "bringing the value to the relationship" (you say in the connection request why you'd like to connect, rather than make the recipient sometimes guess)... then "You will receive more responses to your connection requests" (instead of them marking you as IDK).

    I follow a hybrid approach. If you're in my industry or an area of interest, I connect to the generic request. If they are a recruiter or IDK, I send them a polite message asking for their desire to connect.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #11 Phil Friedman
    #10 Jared, not intending to hijack the thread, I was simply saying that in general using "canned" text in messages of any sort, connection requests or comments on posts, is disrespectful to the recipient. Personally, I don't mind receiving the LinkedIn standardized invitation to connect -- "I would like to add you to my professional network..." -- when the basis for the connection is obvious, for example, when it is from someone in the marine industry or a fellow writer. Of course, if the basis for the connection invitation is not evident, then the invitation may get lower priority because I have to first check the person's profile in order to respond.
    Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    16/12/2016 #10 Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    #7 Hi Phil,
    Are you referring to connection requests or a DM?
    debasish majumder
    16/12/2016 #9 debasish majumder
    but in case of beBee, the entire following system is unlike other social networking site, where if you want to engage with a connection you followed, you have to spent quality time to go through the author's profile and post, which requires a true reflection of your bent of mind, whether you are truly intend to attach with a quality people and their endeavors. however, nice and candid post @Loribeth Pierson! enjoyed read. thank you for the share madam.
    Jim Murray
    16/12/2016 #8 Jim Murray
    It's a nice thought like don't text and drive or have your oil changed every 8000 kilometres. I applaud the effort But I just don;t think it will happen. I have only had 3 all year that weren't canned.
    Phil Friedman
    16/12/2016 #7 Phil Friedman
    What is the difference between a "canned text message" on LinkedIn and a pre-written, uniformly the same, generic welcome message or comment on a post, copied and pasted on beBee? Seems to me they're both inauthentic and intended for show only.
    Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    16/12/2016 #6 Jared ๐Ÿ Wiese
    #4 #2 Agreed. I should have been more clear...

    Every connection request message automatically includes on the first line: "Hi {Recipient First Name (from their profile)},".

    This is true whether you customize our not. So be extra careful when you do customize it.
    Wayne Yoshida
    15/12/2016 #4 Wayne Yoshida
    #2 And if you add the person's name - same thing. It will appear twice on the connect request.
  25. Bert Purdy

    Bert Purdy

    15/12/2016
    Bert Purdy
    4 Key Ways to Maximize Your LinkedIn Profile Headline
    www.socialmediatoday.com Some of the most common questions I see around LinkedIn and optimizing the platform for sales relate to your profile headline, with many sales reps and marketers still seeking help to...
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