- Producer18/11/2017LinkedIn and the Tinder EffectI've held my tongue about this one for a LONG time now. I didn't want to appear to be mean but things are totally out of hand. So I am just going to go for it. If I draw fire.....so be it.I almost called this post: LinkedIn and the Kim...
- Producer18/11/2017Resisting and persistingIt takes a lot of mental work to walk in instability on a road full of uncertainties, some of them catch us off guard, others ... in time, gradually show the signs, to the culminating and unpleasant surprise. In the moment of instability, the...
Comments18/11/2017 #1 Geoff Hudson-SearleGreat Buzz @Neto Montana I resonate with the words only too well, we all have a story to tell in our lives, personal or professional setbacks, you need to develop the determination, drive and skills to create a successful business and happy life. You should read my first book 'Freedom after the Sharks' you will enjoy the book based on the words in your buzz. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freedom-After-Sharks-Geoffrey-Hudson-Searle-ebook/dp/B00IK00GJM
- Producer16/11/2017Can Online Assignment Writing Service Really Help In Your Academics?Assignment writing as homework plays an important role in improving the academic knowledge and presentation skills of the students. It helps them to organize their views and statements in a chronological order and prepares them to face the...
- Producer12/11/2017The temptation for the newConfronting yourself and the world can be a way to acquire knowledge, expand blind eyes and accustomed minds in addictions always in the same things. Being brave can be a bit shocking to those who are accommodated with the information and...
Comments13/11/2017 #1 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee"Creatives suffer resistance, the different suffer resistance, in the most diverse and timeless 'witch hunt'. Ideas scare unimaginative minds, from the comix to the custom. Idea can scare the unprepared, ruminate the conservative".
And who decides very often? Sadly, the unimaginative. Thank you @Neto Montana for sharing your daring thoughts
- Producer09/11/2017Assignment Help in UK: All about Constructing Research Questions for a Case StudyCase study research questions are different to that of the topic sentence. Experts suggest students should learn to differentiate between the topic heading and the question in order to understand what they intend to learn from the topic....
- Producer05/11/2017Glowing Hopes My phone rang. An old friend of mine was crying and requesting me to meet with him urgently. We met and found that he was living totally in darkness. His wife and kids deserted him. He lost his job. His father passed away in a tragic car...
Comments07/11/2017 #43 Lisa Vanderburg#41 Absolutely @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. This is a tool of immense power for both good and evil; great caution should always stay in our conscious mind during our use of this two-faced beast. The www should come with a warning: DANGER: harm and corruption may ensue while using this device!07/11/2017 #42 Lisa 🐝 GallagherWhat a great message @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. Let us be the light that shines on others instead of the light that burns others. There will always be some who would rather take from someone and make them miserable but in the end, I think karma surely catches up. I never wish anything bad for anyone but sometimes lessons aren't learned until a person experiences their own darkness. It's with hope that those who have caused pain to others or take from others gain empathy if they find themselves in a similar situation. If everyone could just remember we are all human and every human has their flaws, maybe, just maybe the world would be a much better place.07/11/2017 #41 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#37 this comment of yours dear @Lisa Vanderburg is what I call Comment Concentrate. You summed up highly-relevant thoughts in your comment. Bravo
People who put lights on their social media face to deceive others are among the most wicked people. Even they managed to make ill-use of light and turn it to darkness for others.07/11/2017 #37 Lisa VanderburgYou draw the most enthralling comments, dear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, and @Edward Lewellen's question, @Sara Jacobovici's musing brings up very important issues; have some become so adept at deception, do they even know they are deceiving anymore? Edward also said the book he's reading 'details how people assume personas over the Internet they would not in person'. I'm deliberately surmising we all do that; we are not the person we appear to be, but in a way, we are better?
I react. Someone unknowingly walks in front of a car; I stop them. Someone screams for help; I go and help. All of us here would do the same I think. These random acts are really devoid of thought; mere instinct. But am I that same person on a keyboard? Dunno....great thoughts you raise!06/11/2017 #36 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#31 dear @Sara Jacobovici just reading this from your comment shows your depth of understanding "So, it is not really surprising that we can be deceived by the light we see emanating from a person".
You give great explanation that not all lights are "safe". This is what we experience with deceptive people who give light of hope to others only to cheat them. The scientific reasoning is sound. I consider your comment as an integral part of this buzz. Thank you06/11/2017 #35 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#31 dear @Sara Jacobovici- just reading this from your commentvshoes your depth of understanding "So, it is not really surprising that we can be deceived by the light we see emanating from a person".
You vive great explanation that not all lights are "safe". This is what we experience with deceptive people eho give light of hope to others only to cheat them. The scientific reasoning is sound. I consider your comment as an integral part of this buzz. Thank you06/11/2017 #33 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#29 dear friend @Edward Lewellen I felt nostalgic while reading your comment. I remembered our experiences. Itvhad been a nourney in ehich ee both experiencef The Cyber Effect.
Yes, relations take time to build and develop common understanding. Ours has been fruitful and filled with the light of attention and caring for each other. Light is right in our formidable friendship.
- Producer04/11/2017LinkedIn: To Tag or not to Tag and the Going Viral Controversy "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" What a week this has been on LinkedIn. HEATED!! At times VICIOUS!! Let me bring you up to date. Reminder: I am posting this here because, if I post it in...
Comments06/11/2017 #13 Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA@Aleta Curry I am doing an experiment. I will ad the links as soon as it is over. LinkedIn distributes posts based on how many people comment on and like them in the first hour. Also, because organic reach is limited, if you want certain people to see your content, if you don't tag them, chances are they won't see it. The goal is not to go viral for viral's sake. It's to ensure that your posts are seen by your connections and followers. If you don't tag, chances are they won't see them.06/11/2017 #12 Aleta CurryIt would be great if you could link to the pertinent LinkedIn discussions, @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA
I don't usually 'tag' on LinkedIn. I am not seeing the connection between taggin and going viral, unless you're taggin Bill Gates and he replies.
I used to tag on beeBee, but the new notifications feature seems to make that superflous, except that now people are getting so many notifications they may start ignoring them.
I've been offline for a couple of weeks and I have 95 new notifications, not counting the ones I hadn't yet checked before I took my break. (Be careful what you wish for.)05/11/2017 #10 Paul "Pablo" CroubalianI still post stuff on LInkedIn. It isn't all that difficult to copy/paste from beBee.
Truth: there is more breadth and depth to my beBee posts where I can write about all my "personalities." Not everything gets to Linkedin and whatever does, gets to beBee first.
There is more LinkedIn activity on a status update than on a long-form post. There is more activity on a status update without an image than with (strange but true)
CLOSING NOTE: Wanna go viral? Post a video of the Chairman of the Board tripping and falling nuts first on the edge of the boardroom table. To break his fall, he can, accidently, tear the shirt off a female executive.
To ensure virality, the boardroom table should collapse injuring many people.
If a birthday cake, with candles lit, flies directly into the Chairman's face as he writhes on the floor clutching his genitals in pain, so much the better.
"Going viral" is for stupidity, personal embarrassment, and/or multiple injuries. Oh, and for cute kitten things.
Can anyone name a single valuable business anything that has gone viral?05/11/2017 #9 Lisa 🐝 GallagherI don't use LI half as often as I used to due to the fact that organic reach is next to impossible on LI now. However, to your point @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA, many of us tag on LI when cross posting and yes, I find the articles that are tagged reach a MUCH larger audience than those articles which have no tags. I agree, just send the person a message stating, I don't care to be tagged. I wrote something on beBee quite a while ago about mass tagging, I don't care to be tagged by the same few people over and over when they are self-promoting their writing. I guess there is a fine line but when it comes to B2B, content writing, etc... or even an important update, tag away!05/11/2017 #8 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeI want also to add that number of views could well be related to the position of the writer. If LI manager publishes even an ordinary quality post he shall get more views than a distinctive post by you.
I stopped completely worrying or paying attention to numbrer of views. I publish on Fridays and Saturdays and these two days hardly get traffic. My concern is to expose the post to the world when ready.05/11/2017 #7 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA- I understand you. I must say that in rare cases I tag people. I. Publish on beBee and share later on LI. Except recently every post I published on beBee got more view and comments by a factor od 3 to 4. Onle recent buzz on LI got more than 5300 views on LI nad 2400 on beBee. However; still comments on be Bee exceeded by 3 times those on LI.
I am saying this and I find beBee far more rewarding.05/11/2017 #5 Proma 🐝 NautiyalGreat post, @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA! I totally agree with you.
I tag when I want the concerned person's attention to the post. If it's an author whom I have to tagged, it allows other members (in my network and in their's) to know about the person tagged.
Finally, when someone tags me, I feel happy that they took the time to type in my name to make sure I see the particular post.
- Producer03/11/2017Qualities the UK Students Should Look For in Dissertation Writing ServiceDissertation assignments have always been a stalwart in the syllabus of UK universities. The UK students, therefore, are allocated to write dissertations- generally during the post graduation levels. ‘Dissertations come in many shapes and forms,...
- Producer02/11/2017The propagatorNature explodes as a creative force in the universe, constantly, wildly, for us it may perish so cruel, but for strength is energy, light. Explosions that collide like a show, because the explosions can be shocking, but in distance in the sky they...
- Producer31/10/2017LinkedIn's missing linkWhat is the logic behind linking to people you know nothing about? When I reach out to anyone on LinkedIn, there's a very good reason behind it. Yet the requests I tend to get are reason-free.As I wrote in a discussion group awhile ago, "because...
Comments03/11/2017 #24 Peter AltschulerThis might interest you, @Jim Murray, @Phil Freidman, @Wayne Yoshida, @Randall Burns, and @Joanne Gardocki. LinkedIn published the results of a survey among Premium members and learned: 74% say that "nurturing my network -- developing my existing connections" is very or extremely important; yet 34% don't know if their efforts will amount to anything, 29% think is "feels cheesy or disingenuous," and 26% feel that they don't know when or how best to reach out.02/11/2017 #22 Peter Altschuler#18 #20 By contrast, @Jim Murray, I've come across people in LI groups who see their posts as a lead gen activity (though only a fraction seem to get any business through the site). And I have been contacted by people through LI, but never for my marketing knowhow. They're either people who liked an article I'd written or listened to an audiobook I'd done and wanted to let me know what they thought (so far, it's all been good).02/11/2017 #21 Peter Altschuler#18 Both Phil Friedman and Kevin Pashuk present valid arguments, @Wayne Yoshida. Kevin almost made me wistful for the days of the original LinkedIn Groups. Yet someone at LI obviously thought they were missing out on monetization, and Groups, clearly, were not a hotbed of selling/promotional opportunities. Not then, at any rate.
Kevin's perspective is a valid one. Unless you're a Secretary of State dealing first-hand with diplomats in 50 major countries, you probably don't need 500 allegedly business-related connections. That's a key purpose of a social network -- relying on the colleagues you do know when you need to find someone (whom they may know) with particular knowledge or expertise. If a working relationship develops, great. Add that person to your "known" list.
If that individual just provides information or a service on a one-time or temporary basis, add him or her to your address book and put them in a category like "software" or "engineering" or "delivery services," in case you ever need their help in the future. Just as you might do with a proctologist.02/11/2017 #20 Jim MurrayGood post, @Peter Altschuler. Even better question. I get about 10-12 requests a week and every once in a while I pick a few at random and ask that question.
Almost everyone comes back with the same answer. Someone forwarded them a post of mine. They liked it and wanted to have me in their network so my posts would show up on their feed. I was gratified because I write these posts simply to build an audience, as opposed to building business here. (Most of my business comes from direct contact and or referrals locally). So for me accepting these connections does have a purpose or, at least I assume, a reason for being.02/11/2017 #19 Peter Altschuler#14 LinkedIn was always a realm unto itself, @Phil Friedman, with a constantly shifting set of rules that could put you in the crosshairs for inexplicable reasons. As it grew, the worthwhile rules seemed to vanish... along with the ability to take action against anyone who willingly flaunted the rules that made sense. Now, under Microsoft, it's a platform to sell targeted advertising, prospect for leads, and emphasize egotism over collaboration.02/11/2017 #18 Wayne Yoshida@Peter Altschuler - Yes, this is always a raging discussion . . . actually for any social platform. And a while ago, @Phil Friedman brought this up when he issued a precaution for us. It's more about what or how things can become, if we and the leaders drive it and avoid the problems and issues and mistakes -- and how to benefit from "lessons learned" --
Here's something related to all this -- @Kevin Pashuk did a "friendectomy" a while ago.
Which inspired me to do this post:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/your-network-quality-vs-quantity-wayne-yoshida/02/11/2017 #17 Wayne Yoshida#10 @Peter Altschuler -- personalizing the connect requests on a mobile device -- Android or Apple - is possible. Look for the "More" icon - the ellipsis. . . and a pull-down menu appears. Follow the prompts, but do not click the "Connect" button until after you entered a message.02/11/2017 #15 Wayne Yoshida#3 @Joanne Gardocki - there are several **traps** set all over LinkedIn where you click on the "Connect" button -- and -- ZAP -- the default request is sent. The best practice to initiate a connect request - and a place to avoid the "default request trap" - is to go to the person's profile, and then boink the connect button - and then customize the invitation.
More on this issue here:
And here - this is what I call - get the network you deserve. It's by @Bruce Johnston -
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/linkedin-user-his-terrible-horrible-good-very-bad-message-johnston/?trk=mp-reader-card02/11/2017 #14 Phil Friedman#12 The disconnect in all of this is literally the disconnect at LinkedIn between how things were originally supposed to work and how the apparatchiks later decided it should work.
Originally, when someone connected with you, they saw what you posted in their feed. And if they registered a Like, that post would be distributed to their network (via a notice that that had liked it). Which meant that if you connected with, say, 30,000, people, the ultimate reach of your post, independent of the “quality” of your connections, could easily rise into the millions. And playing the numbers made sense.
However, since for the past three or more years, LI has arbitrary choked down distribution to one’s followers and connections, playing small percentages of “conversions” against a truly huge pool of connections and their connections and their connections (etc) doesn’t get you anywhere. Because your stuff isn't really reaching even your most ardent followers and self-elected connections.
The missing link at LI isnintegrity. Cheers!02/11/2017 #12 Peter Altschuler#7 There is, @Phil Friedman, a cohort of "members" who accept the assertion that more is more. I'm too Bauhaus. I'd rather have fewer contacts whose value I know and appreciate than hundreds who are virtual strangers.
And then there's the story of Bernie, who said he knew everyone and they all knew him. Well, Bob didn't buy that. So Bernie invited Bob to join him on a trip to the Vatican where Bernie was to meet with the Pope. When the Pope emerged on the balcony of St. Peter's Square with Bernie beside him, Bob asked the person beside him if he knew who that guy was on the balcony. "You mean Bernie or the guy in the funny hat?"02/11/2017 #10 Peter Altschuler#3 There's one thing I have learned about LinkedIn's connection routines, @Joanne Gardocki -- if someone decides to connect with you from a desktop or laptop, there's the option to personalize the request. If it's done from a mobile device, a boilerplate query goes straight to the connectee with no opportunity to add your own text.31/10/2017 #5 Sergio DaríoLadran Sancho...señal de que son trolls...
- Producer01/11/2017The Top Five Posts on LinkedIn A recent LinkedIn Article lists the top five posts on LinkedIn, based on the number of Likes and Shares the posts received. I found it interesting reading and I made a few extracts from the grouping of posts. Here are a number of salient points on...
Comments03/11/2017 #25 Lada 🏡 PrkicInteresting stats, Gert. I like to read posts by Oleg Vishnepolsky and Brigette. They also post interesting updates that receive the thousands of likes and comments. I agree with Ken. I prefer beBee much more than LI, but I also spend time on LI because of my many connections from the construction field.
We should take the best of both sides.03/11/2017 #24 Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBAI am very happy for Brigette.
I write about similar topics and nothing has been picked up by the editors.
I packed it in. The editors have their favourites. Other than that, no one gets seen. I know where I am not wanted and I am not a glutton for punishment. There are plenty of other places for me to post that do appreciate my work and will pay me for it.02/11/2017 #22 Ken BoddieI just can’t get enthused about LI, Gert. I tried it for over a year and eventually gave up since I deemed insufficient return for effort compared to beBee. Furthermore,, I am frequently amazed at the number of bloggers who use beBee to bitch and moan about LI yet still appear to spend time there.02/11/2017 #20 Gert Scholtz#17 @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher As far as I recall your articles have had very good reponses on Medium. LI is quite work and business oriented - maybe I will write a post on "The Business of Non-Business Articles" :)). Thanks for reading and commenting Lisa, good of you to stop by.02/11/2017 #18 Debesh Choudhury#1 I agree with @Pascal Derrien .. The topics people "Like" is monotonic "Leadership", "Management" and "Work". The number of "Like" is a good measure about the popularity. But I have a BIG DOUBT whether the people really read the contents or just blown away with the viral wave? My recent LI short form post questions that - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:633033292170198220802/11/2017 #17 Lisa 🐝 GallagherInteresting facts you wrote of above @Gert Scholtz. It's been so long since I wrote on LI, I think I may forget how to now (just kidding). As you know my writings are always personal or about life in general... along with some travel blogs. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try and write on LI on occasion. Like you, I prefer beBee more and I've just gotten used to writing here now. Variety is a good thing. I love variety, it also shows a persons character when the are able to share something more than a business article on occasion.02/11/2017 #13 David B. GrinbergThanks for sharing this interesting info, Gert. I agree that @Brigette Hyacinth is a "must read" and we are fortunate to have her unique blogging buzz on beBee.
While I'm still active in supporting others and networking on LinkedIn, I stopped blogging on Pulse in early 2016 -- and my last post was about beBee!
I agree with your sentiments assessment, Gert: "Yet, for many reasons I like it more here on BeBee. Much more."
And a major reason why is due to all of the brilliant buzzing bees like you and countless others who help to make this platform so special and amazing. Thanks for all you do, Gert, and ditto that or everyone else who makes significant and selfless contributions to growing/improving this site.01/11/2017 #10 Robert CormackI would definitely say it's what interests people at the time. LinkedIn is very different than beBee, something I've seen numerous times where something on LinkedIn garners more interest on beBee than LinkedIn. So, I guess, putting your eggs in more than one basket, like Javier says, makes sense.
- Producer24/10/2017Accelerated Butterfly EffectWe need to be authentic. We need to preserve our originality. This is in spite of the rapid disruptions we encounter that change our lifestyles, our communication, our grasp of a topic of interest to be overwhelmed soon by a new interest and so...
Comments28/10/2017 #49 Tausif MundrawalaWe need a fish who is generous enough to clean the entire pond. That fish needs to have an inbuilt quality to cleanse an entire system because in order to clean the dirt someone has to initiate a step in the right direction. Otherwise other fishes are always there to muddy water in which they live to an extent it becomes toxic enough to survive. A guiding force is required where the evolution of a path of enlightenment is illuminated. I was waiting for the correct time to read and comment on this buzz,Sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee28/10/2017 #47 Joel AndersonFor some reason this got my on a Heraclitus kick this morning. “The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change.” “No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.” A series of inputs and outputs, stimuli and experiences, interactions and exchanges that influence perspective along a constantly evolving and dynamic journey.. I like your insights as it causes one to actually think. Cant wait to see the book. Thanks....26/10/2017 #42 Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee"We find ourselves standing on sinking sands and above us turbulent winds that blows the sand in our eyes and we hardly can see through the blowing dust. And yet we have to keep our balance and stay who we are."
I like the metaphor of the fish pond. I struggle to stray from linear thinking. The world and its facets are inherently nonlinear. You have a way of putting things (as with the above statement) that helps clear the mind.25/10/2017 #36 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#34 i agree and appreciate your comment @Yolanda Ávila Márquez. When we visit a park and find it polluted with left overs who is responsible for that? When we crowd fish in a pool with no drainage who is faulty? Yes the fish may contribute to the problem, but mostly it is us. Thst is another reason why I believe the fish pond example is applicable.25/10/2017 #35 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeI understand your concerns @Antoinette Capasso-Backdahl. The whole idea is thar we observe a fish pond to learn and adapt. If a fish pond gets stingy then why also some organizations are called fishy? Iin no way I am equating a human with a fish. The whole idea is what happens when we crowd fish in a pond. The idea came from our world that is shrinking into a small village. What does crowdiness lead to?25/10/2017 #34 Yolanda Ávila MárquezDo you know the Japanese KOI ponds, Ali?
The architecture of a koi pond can have an important effect on the health and well-being of the koi (fish). The practice of koi care often focuses on "finishing development" of a koi at the right time. The concept of 'termination' is used in the sense that the fish has reached its maximum potential.
I like this approach: the pond is a space that enables the fish to develop and gives them the possibility of achieving its best expression. To do this, you must ensure that the pond has everything the fish may need for its harmonious development.
Who is responsible for maintaining this optimal working environment? Intermediate managers with the support of senior management.25/10/2017 #33 Antoinette Capasso-BackdahlStill I don't look at myself as a fish or in a pond. Even if there are those that are addicted to looking at their human resources this way.
Environments that treat everyone with dignity and respect are usually the type of environments people are attracted to. Not a stinky fish bowl with snares and lures.
The person being observed does not own the perception, the observer owns it. Who gave you permission to become an observer, a judge, a voyeur? Especially for some, who may never been put in or caught in a snare. Or not even by those setting the snares. So what is the observation telling you about the observer? It is for that reason, humans cannot be God because what ALMIGHTY creator hates his or her design or self? What ALMIGHTY creator self destructs or abandons his future creation?25/10/2017 #31 Sara Jacobovici#30 I am grateful for the synchronicity between us @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I will answer your last question first; "In a inter-connected world does identity have a meaning?": definitely yes. This is the key to the human paradox of our drive to form our own unique identity while dependent on the interconnection for survival. You raise important questions Dr. Ali. The factor of time is crucial. You describe an organic, biological inter-connectedness. This process takes time to manifest into an identity of the individual part of the whole system. What is happening in our current environment of technology is the lack of time we have to adapt and establish any form of connection. We are in a disconnect and so is our identity.
- Producer27/10/2017One Likeable AssHole - Doing It His Way - Minus Big Bucks - Scotty Cannon Welds His Own Luck - By Kevin Douglas BergIt was hot, very hot. I think that it was probably close to degrees Fahrenheit that afternoon in Hebron. My dad finally made our way to a track that was closer than others for a national meet. Hebron, Ohio. Back in the past, we would speak of this...
- Producer23/10/2017What strategies do you use to deal with bullies and other tyrants online and at work?Unfortunately, a passive approach is not effective. One of the reasons bullying and tyrannical behaviour thrive on-line and at work is that harmony at all costs is expected. Often there are cultural factors at play. Some cultures (both...
Comments28/10/2017 #19 Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA#16 @Claire L Cardwell It's tough. There is one who was inappropriate on LinkedIn and I blocked her. Then she tried to bring it over here. I just ignored her. I would rather ignore and block but, if pushed and I need to finally set a firm boundary, I will.
It happens in private life too. I have an example to share but I will see if the photos I took came out.26/10/2017 #18 Claire L Cardwell#17 Good idea to wait a while before you make your response @Phil Friedman! I know that it's a great way of staying cool - BUT there is an awesome hidden benefit.... In these days of instant communication people expect an immediate response... Letting them sweat a bit and not give them instant gratification by engaging with them straight away must actually bug them a lot more than the insult burnt you at the time!26/10/2017 #17 Phil Friedman#16 Well, Claire, truth be known, I've had to work hard at it. Mostly because, when someone is rude, my first reaction is to fire back an acerbic answer. Eventually, however, I learned that often only engenders sympathy for the "poor" troll since, God forbid, a boorish comment should receive less than a polite reply. I also learned that those who are the first to seek to wound are also the first to cry and whine about receiving back what they've given. So these days, I try to ignore caustic comments (which are not to be confused with legitimate questions and disagreeing remarks). And if I can't, I try to wait a day or two before answering, rather than firing off a response immediately. Cheers!26/10/2017 #16 Claire L Cardwell#1 @Phil Friedman - I don't know how you maintained equanimity with your troll earlier this year..... @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA - I know I've got a quite wee bit to learn about tact and diplomacy and handling the naysayers with assertion and grace... it's very difficult to tread the right line, to think before you speak/write and to stay calm!24/10/2017 #14 Jerry FletcherAnne, My daughter who looks like a valley girl is actually a high ranking staffer in the Pentagon. Because of her position one of her staff advised a 3 star general that his pet project was not funded and should be terminated. His response via e-mail was was predicated on his rank and he directed her to immediately make an appointment and come to his office to get the facts in person. Her response via e-mail was: General, Thank you for your service. I look forward to meeting you. I am not a military officer but my rank is equivalent to yours and because of my position I suggest that if you want to discuss this matter you contact my assistant for an appointment to meet in my offices. Unless you can convince me that this program is essential and you can suggest ways to fund it, you will be directed to carry out my staff's recommendation. She signed it with her full rank/position.
Sometimes dealing with a bully is a matter of turning the tables...always with charm and grace.24/10/2017 #13 Martina Baxter#12 My guess it's about attempts to have "power" over another person, @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA in some forms, and in others it's just trying to get one's own way. Which is part of the bullying equation. Even so called "logical" attempts to push someone in another direction can be bullying. Seen a lot of this in meetings, where one person can't ackknowledge another person's ideas can have merit, and not just one's own. It's often a personal agenda hidden in logic.24/10/2017 #12 Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA#11 I agree. Martina. It can include pushing one's point of view when others have calmly set boundaries and said let's just agree to disagree. It happens in meetings and it happens in group discussions on-line. I had to eventually set a boundary for a woman in an online LinkedIn Group and let her know "You are not the Lord God Almighty. Everything you say is not gospel. People are free to accept or reject all or part of what you suggest." I am not sure where this need to ram one's point of view down people's throats comes from.23/10/2017 #10 Phil Friedman#9 Well, Harvey, that is kind of you to say. It's gratifying that, of late, several people, including @Ian Weinberg, have said similar things. Of course, the classic case is @Jim Murray who, after telling me in print to go f$#k myself, became my co-author in the HE SAID HE SAID series on LinkedIn and beBee and my compadre. Now, since you and I appear to have hijacked @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA's thread for long enough (my apologies, Anne), I will leave this exchange with just a single thought:
Once when I was an undergraduate, I was applying to an independent foundation for a graduate fellowship. My sponsor for the award was my English professor and she was being a real bear about perfecting my application essay. After her call for a twelfth rewrite, I was absolutely beside myself and went to my advisor who was one of my philosophy profs to complain.
He said, "Hey, get over yourself. Did you know that so-and-so has the highest success rate in these applications of anyone at the college? Have you considered that if she didn't think highly of you and your work, she would waste he time to get you to perfect the essay? So why not just stop whining and get the job done... and be thankful that she's willing to invest so much of her time in you." That single conversation changed my attitude toward intellectual engagement forever. Cheers!23/10/2017 #9 Harvey Lloyd#8 Even as you point out in some of your marketing you come with an edge. An edge of factual, tangible and meaningful input. This does seem to draw from many a view of bullying. I disagree in most cases.
I did not do social media and late adopter does not even describe my tardiness. But it is for this reason that i did not enjoy the platforms. I did not want nor was i ready to defend my writings inside a public very subjective paradigm. Amazingly you were my nemesis when i first engaged.
Your hard edge and well thought out comments caused me pause and i might add a little anger at first. This was odd as you and i share a construction background and field work tends to harden one to facts, production and customer care. Nonetheless engaging with you broadened some of my perspectives and toughened my skin as it applies to social media.
If you are going out in public with posts or comments, then one should prepare for extreme "reasonable" feedback.23/10/2017 #8 Phil FriedmanYou make a good point, Harvey, about the danger of applying label. I was recently accused by a “prominent” beBee writer and one of his acolytes of being a bully because I persisted in a discussion when I found his “answer” to my comment inadequate. It appeared he believed that the proper etiquette was to ask a (not to tough) question, then be satisfied with any answer whatsoever and retire from any genuine conversation. He even went so far as to accuse me of making him look “foolish@ (his words) by persisting in showing he was not dealing with the issue raised.
No doubt, to some, that appears to be bullying — but it is not, as long as the exchange remains civil. Instead, It is engaging in meaningful conversation in the pursuit of resolution. And to label it bullying is itself a form of bullying in an attempt to shut down the conversation. Cheers! #723/10/2017 #7 Harvey Lloyd#6 I agree we need to define what a bully is, before we begin to label someone.
I have read many comments initially as intrusive or aggressive. But with just a little thought the point made could be woven into the stream.
Unfortunately the more sophisticated we become the less wisdom that is applied to our "feelings". Nothing wrong with feelings, but i have to understand we all have them and our narrative dictates their application.
Does my narrative vs others create a bully concept in one? I would hope we are more opened minded and want to understand the differences and not judge them.
Not to discount that bullies do exist.23/10/2017 #6 Phil Friedman#3 @Lada 🏡 Prkic and @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA, I used to occasionally fire back a verbal barn to a “troll” or other bully online. But very often when I did, that person who was rude and sometimes even vicious, would whine and cry about being abused. And, believe it or not, I was criticized by others for being mean.
I have concluded it is a version of Stockholm Syndrome, in which the larger audience on social media desires only to avoid conflict and resents anyone who contributes to their fearful discomfort — even when that contribution is only a reply to being attacked in the first place. So I have for a long time now, chosen simply to ignore such trolls and bullies.
Of corse, they will then whine about being ignored and “excluded” from the discussion and will be again supported by those who are more afraid of the bullies than of the reasonable people who resist them. Sad, if you ask me. Cheers!23/10/2017 #5 Harvey LloydBullies are a rare breed of individual that exist and do need to be dealt with, harshly. But their dealings should be individual and swift. Policies and boundaries scare me as they also trap passion. I do not refer to the most egregious acts and policies.
@Lada 🏡 Prkic discusses the discourse and misunderstandings between cultures, religions and ethnic backgrounds. What i first see as bullying i treat as a misunderstanding. Through engagement i would dare say that the 80/20 rule applies here. 80% of the time it's just a misunderstanding.
I would like to point out that it is difficult these days when we watch media and see various "bullying" of religions, political opponents or various groups. It would appear that bullying is acceptable within certain "class" arguments, as long as we are on the same side.
Interestingly we all seem to join together when cyber bullying happens and a person dies, then we go back to sophisticated bullying within our media campaigns. I find it difficult to sort the various levels of bullying that are acceptable within media. Political correctness, humans sorted by something other than their existence, special interest, political parties and spiritual/cultural are all camps that bullying has become the communication style.
Because i used the best available information and my own evaluation and voted a certain way i am either alt left or alt right.23/10/2017 #4 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA- I believe it is now part of the game to deal with bullies on social media. People can change names and make irresponsible comments. I experienced this. One guy wrote a comment under a name and a year later he made same comment under a different name. This is how the ball bounces on social media. These people recognize no boundaries because they disguise themselves.23/10/2017 #3 Lada 🏡 PrkicFortunately, so far I've never had to deal with bullies and other tyrants, online or at work. Hope it stays that way. :-)
I had some unpleasant experiences with the comment threads on some of my posts on LinkedIn because one or two people understood my words in a different way from what I intended to say.
In such cases, my tactic is to thank those people for their opinions and not be involved in the further discussion. Some people are not capable to rationally discuss any issues.
It's hard to say how to deal with bullies and despots at work. I'm sure I wouldn't choose a passive approach.
An important topic to discuss, Anne.
Thanks Phil for pointing out the post by John White.23/10/2017 #1 Phil FriedmanYou make several excellent points, @Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBAThornley. Particularly in respect of the general expectation that we should all maintain the ambient tranquility -- at all costs. This expectation often leads to blaming the victim of bullying for fighting back. Another excellent piece on this topic was published by @John White, MBA https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-keep-cyberbullies-out-your-life-john-white-mba-/
Thanks to you both. And cheers!
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Comments02/05/2017 #32 Timothy welchNow prove this works over an extended period of time. how do you know it was not a fluke? there is no perfect algorithm anyone that says there is is either misguided or they do not understand human behavior. riddle me this ... based on this experiment how many job offers and actual money came in?? and if actual money did come in from this let me dupicate your system and have actual money come into my paypal or bank account. what benefit is it if you have 600 million views but no sales. give me 6,000 views but 50% of those people actually buying your product, service, info, or technology.02/05/2017 #30 Bengt HahlinHi Matt,
As a newbie with only two weeks on beBee, I have come to the same conclusion. I have done the same experiment on both platforms (both buzz/updates and producer/articles). Same result.
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