- Producer19/02/2017Thanks for the share, Javier!Thanks for the share, Javier 🐝 beBee, you're the best. It’s Saturday, and instead of playing with the kids, taking his wife out, putting his feet up or going out with friends, Javier is being a very busy little bee, typing away. Not just...
Comments19/02/2017 #9 David B. GrinbergYou hit the proverbial nail on the head, Aleta. @Javier 🐝 beBee sets a very high bar for social engagement from a CEO of any type. He is indeed a role model for the rest of us and for all social media CEOs, most of whom never directly engage on a personal level with users of their own platforms. So thank you JAVIER for your leadership and all around exemplary efforts. We are trying to follow in your footsteps, however, they are very big shoes to fill. Thus, thanks for all you do! 👏👏✌️️😇🙏19/02/2017 #7 Ali AnaniIf we thank @Javier 🐝 beBee for every considerate sharing he makes we then shall end up with a heap of acknowledgements. I say this from my own experience. To have Javier engaged in so many sharing activities and commenting as well is a genuine indicator of his engagement on beBee.19/02/2017 #6 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.a man with a mission thank you @Javier 🐝 beBee
- Producer19/02/2017Censorship: To Cut Or Not to Cut, That Is the QuestionWHEN THE LANGUAGE OR THE DISCUSSION GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH KEEP GOING ... OR DO THEY?Preface: This marks the 24th installment of the ongoing verbal contretemps between Jim Murray and me. Here we've tackled a serious and complicated topic that should...
Comments19/02/2017 #95 David B. GrinbergThanks for another exemplary exchange as usual, Phil and Jim. I agree with Phil that there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism expressed in a cordial/polite manner on social media. There should not be unwarranted restrictions against an open online dialogue even on contentious and controversial all issues. Everyone has the right to express their own opinion and disagree with the majority. But once language changes from constructive to destructive then problems arise. There's never a justification for online bullying, harassment, needless name calling, personal attacks or demonization of one's character, etc.
Just keep online speech polite and cordial even if you disagree, and there shouldn't be any problems. this is not rocket science but basic common courtesy, respect and good manners. Is that about right, Phil and Jim?19/02/2017 #90 Antoinette Capasso-BackdahlSo, if you want to make a case for science, sacrifice would not be helpful for that cause. Besides, we have sacrificed plenty by being a part of the experiment. If a comprehensive analysis was available, I haven't seen it. I am not brave enough to author it either.19/02/2017 #89 Antoinette Capasso-Backdahl#86 I should also say that not everyone wants to be famous. Not everyone wants to be distracted either. Most people, that I know, want to understand what is happening. From just being on the complaint department side of things, they are wondering if the engineers have all gone mad.
No sex tapes found on beBee that I know of. I was making a joke about pop culture.19/02/2017 #85 Gerald HechtRE: IMPLICATIONS OF ZUCKERBERG's MANIFESTO: "Generals and military scholars will tell you that eight or 10 years is actually not such a long time in the span of human history -- which is no doubt true -- but history also tells us that 10 years of martial law and a war-time economy are going to feel like a Lifetime to people who are in their twenties today. The poor bastards of what will forever be known as Generation Z are doomed to be the first generation of Americans who will grow up with a lower standard of living than their parents enjoyed.
That is extremely heavy news, and it will take a while for it to sink in. The 22 babies born in New York City while the World Trade Center burned will never know what they missed. The last half of the 20th century will seem like a wild party for rich kids, compared to what's coming now. The party's over, folks. The time has come for loyal Americans to Sacrifice. ... Sacrifice. ... Sacrifice. That is the new buzz-word in Washington. But what it means is not entirely clear.
Winston Churchill said "The first casualty of War is always Truth." Churchill also said "In wartime, the Truth is so precious that it should always be surrounded by a bodyguard of Lies."
That wisdom will not be much comfort to babies born last week. The first news they get in this world will be News subjected to Military Censorship. That is a given in wartime, along with massive campaigns of deliberately-planted "Dis-information." That is routine behavior in Wartime -- for all countries and all combatants -- and it makes life difficult for people who value real news. Count on it. That is what Churchill meant when he talked about Truth being the first casualty of War."
--Hunter S. Thompson, September 18, 2001, Woody Creek, CO
Show Business You Say...Acting?19/02/2017 #84 Gerald Hecht#38 @Milos Djukic "Generals and military scholars will tell you that eight or 10 years is actually not such a long time in the span of human history -- which is no doubt true -- but history also tells us that 10 years of martial law and a war-time economy are going to feel like a Lifetime to people who are in their twenties today. The poor bastards of what will forever be known as Generation Z are doomed to be the first generation of Americans who will grow up with a lower standard of living than their parents enjoyed.
That is extremely heavy news, and it will take a while for it to sink in. The 22 babies born in New York City while the World Trade Center burned will never know what they missed. The last half of the 20th century will seem like a wild party for rich kids, compared to what's coming now. The party's over, folks. The time has come for loyal Americans to Sacrifice. ... Sacrifice. ... Sacrifice. That is the new buzz-word in Washington. But what it means is not entirely clear.
Winston Churchill said "The first casualty of War is always Truth." Churchill also said "In wartime, the Truth is so precious that it should always be surrounded by a bodyguard of Lies." That wisdom will not be much comfort to babies born last week. The first news they get in this world will be News subjected to Military Censorship. That is a given in wartime, along with massive campaigns of deliberately-planted "Dis-information." That is routine behavior in Wartime -- for all countries and all combatants -- and it makes life difficult for people who value real news. Count on it. That is what Churchill meant when he talked about Truth being the first casualty of War."
--Hunter S. Thompson, September 18, 2001, Woody Creek, CO19/02/2017 #82 Robert BacalI have a relatively straightforward approach to the issue of who should be able to do what, based on the idea of creating common good. I posted on this a few days ago:
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@robert-bacal/why-censorship-and-content-moderation-are-essential-for-effective-social-media View moreI have a relatively straightforward approach to the issue of who should be able to do what, based on the idea of creating common good. I posted on this a few days ago:
Why Censorship and Content Moderation Are Essential For Effective Social Media
Bebee's responsibility is to themselves, and therefore to foster a productive environment on the entire platform. Hence, they get to, as owners, decide what happens where.
Hive owners, because of their sweat equity and also because they are stewards of the hive then get to decide what stays and what remains in that hive. Otherwise, it all goes off topic.
Individual posters do NOT get to decide what comments remain, since their primary concern is readership, and they have no obvious obligation to contribute to the common good. Any obligation of that type is secondary. Close19/02/2017 #78 Phil FriedmanBTW, and for the record, @Javier 🐝 beBee and @Federico 🐝 Álvarez San Martín the array of notices of other posts at the bottom of this one is entirely satisfactory to me. It is not so much that I would want only notices of my own posts to appear, but that I would personally as a writer and business professional to designate a list of other writers with whom I would like to be associated. Because when promotional blurbs to the work of authors whom I find IMO objectionable appear at the bottom of my posts, I fear that it undermines my efforts at personal branding. And that is a problem. I know I am a broken record on this point, but I would hate to see it slip through the cracks as you perfect the new version of the platform. Cheers!19/02/2017 #77 Phil Friedman#74 I understand, Antoinette, what you're saying. But I have to disagree somewhat, in that it should be a matter of personal choice as to how much currying of favor among the gnats and bees one wants to do. Some of us do not write to be liked, however much we write to be widely read. And we are content to simply be offered a reliable and honest system of distribution, and let the chips fall where they may. Thank you for joining the conversation... and cheers!19/02/2017 #76 Phil Friedman#66 However, Jim, it's important. I think, to point out that blocking someone just prevents one from seeing or commenting on the blockee's posts and comments and vice versa. It does not remove that person from the platform or prevent him or her from posting or commenting on the posts of others (other than the blocker's posts).The block function on LinkedIn was defective because although it prevented you from seeing a comment by the blockee on your post, it did not always prevent the blockee from posting that comment on your post. So once again, as endemic on LI, perception did not always line up with reality.
I think the ability to moderate the comment threads on one's posts is a HUGE advance, especially if coupled with a "block" function that will prevent someone from seeing your posts and commenting on them in the first place. Eventually, the people who are genuinely objectionable will find themselves talking only to themselves. Organic self-regulation. Without managerial censorship. Cheers!
- Producer19/02/2017HOW YOUR METHODS OF NETWORKING ON LINKEDIN ARE PUSHING YOUR CONNECTIONS FURTHER AWAY FROM YOU (AND HOW TO TURN THIS AROUND)More specifically in the last year and a half, I have noticed some shifts, or perhaps more appropriately, some “major imbalances” occurring on LinkedIn, and I feel that many people are still using some networking strategies that are not only no...
Comments19/02/2017 #1 Jerry FletcherScott,
My clients echo your comments regularly. It all comes down to how people think about networking. Those that approach it from a relational perspective react with horror at the spamming that goes on, which (in my opinion) comes from people that think networking is transactional and can't understand why you object to their approach. Those who really want to connect pay it forward with no expectations of tit for tat rewards.
- Producer17/02/2017Why Censorship and Content Moderation Are Essential For Effective Social Media(Note: Since this is a controversial topic, I'd appreciate it, if you want to comment, that you read the entire article before you put in your 2 cents.This appeared originally on my website for small business and stresses the importance of staying...
Comments19/02/2017 #21 Robert BacalJust posted this on the other article that appeared after this one:
I have a relatively straightforward approach to the issue of who should be able to do what, based on the idea of creating common good.
Bebee's responsibility is to themselves, and therefore to foster a productive environment on the entire platform. Hence, they get to, as owners, decide what happens where.
Hive owners, because of their sweat equity and also because they are stewards of the hive then get to decide what stays and what remains in that hive. Otherwise, it all goes off topic.
Individual posters do NOT get to decide what comments remain, since their primary concern is readership, and they have no obvious obligation to contribute to the common good. Any obligation of that type is secondary.19/02/2017 #20 Robert Bacal@Javier 🐝 beBee posted the following: https://www.bebee.com/content/1239991/1125737
"beBee will be the first platform where we will be able to auto moderate ourselves"
It's not clear what that will mean except that it is supposed to appear in the next platform update.
If it involves filtering one's own feed, that is a good thing, of course, but if it puts the honus on the many millions to filter out things like obscene posts, hate speech, etc while continuing to allow posters of spam, junk etc to post, then I'm not sure it addresses the problem of the "bad" driving out the "good".
Looking forward to seeing the next generation of Bebee, though because LinkedIn content and hatred seems to increase every day.19/02/2017 #19 Robert BacalJust came from LinkedIn where I sadly stumbled across several post attacking family members related to the candidates from the past election.
None of it is relevant, none of it is even political discussion. Which makes the point:
The Bad crowds out the good, until nothing good is left, and people give up on the platform.18/02/2017 #16 Rob McNaughton@ Aleta Curry - no, perhaps not more generous. 'Out' means out of the platform and barred permanently - brooking no argument. I perhaps would put one error down to linguistic differences and colloquialisms (yes, I have been caught that way myself) especially between English speakers as a native language and those who have English as a second language. (So through the use of a common and harmless local colloquialism I lost a very good contact/colleague). After the first well ....18/02/2017 #15 Robert Bacal#14 Brian the use of the report button has potential problems, depending on how its used. I don't have much more to say on that at the moment. I can say that if I had a facility on a blog that I might host, I'd look at the post/comment reported, and decide using my own judgment, which would be my perogative. I would also spell out clearly what the report button should be used for, and make sure that it isn't used by the same people over and over again with little consideration for the other people around.
While report buttons are anonymous to regular visitors, it is not anonymous to those running the blog/platform. Use of it when it's unwarranted wastes time, and I wouldn't take kindly to that.18/02/2017 #13 Robert Bacal#11 @Aleta Curry It's difficult for people who haven't had the responsibility of moderating forums, etc, to understand or see things from that perspective. I've found that it's fairly easy to tell, from one post, whether a person is there to disrupt, spam and for selfish purposes, or whether they are there to participate in good faith.
On my performance management group on LinkedIn, I post the rules, and it's not uncommon for me to turf someone after one spam message. Positive participants display different interaction patterns than do the people who basically end up destroying the forum/group.18/02/2017 #9 Aleta Curry#7 Not from me. I don't even allow it on my social media threads. You abuse or swear at people, the post is removed. A couple of times I've been accused of simply not liking what the person had to say, but I trust that anyone who knows me knows that that's nonsense.
I'm not even averse to the milder swear words. You write 'life's a bitch', I don't care. You write 'you're a bitch', post is summarily deleted.
If people use really bad words (but not directly at any of the other kidlets) I'll privately ask them to rephrase.18/02/2017 #4 Robert Bacal#1 Indeed, @robin barton and particularly when one is a guest. I think if people want to do their thing without restriction, then they can do so on their own blogs or websites. People still have the ability to say what they please, within the law, but it's their "house". If you are in somebody elses house, you don't have the right to pee in the plants. If you want to do that at home, have at it.
- Producer15/02/2017Piers Morgan is right, but that’s not the point. No, Seriously.Photo: Via Wikipedia. License ‘cc-by-sa-2.0’ I find myself having to agree with Piers Morgan. I need chocolate. Badly. (That’s an ‘in’ joke. Some of you will get it later.) The thing is that Morgan is right about a lot of things....
- Producer10/02/2017The Day the Internet Lost its ImaginationThe image from fakeposters.com does not capture the moment that the Internet lost its imagination. That moment actually occurred within the first ten years of its arrival and no sooner as we had entered the new millennium the hope its founding...
Comments10/02/2017 #6 Brian McKenzie"Facebook" is also built on military technology - and you should look closely to their direct and published ties to NSA. Their interface does nothing more than put Cat memes and Girl Pics on software that the Military Intelligence used across the late 80's and early 90's known as 'Crime - Link' and 'LinkSys' - which gave a web like graphic note reference for organized crime and suspected spies - the info on your Facebook page, combined with your other social media footprints, is a spook's wet dream. Clueless, wandering, easily conditioned, unthinking, over-consuming under-living digitally connected consumers - aka Sheeple.10/02/2017 #4 Ali Anani#2 What a great buzz this is dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. On a personal level, I enjoyed the synchronicity of my shared buzz tonight on bright hopes and your buzz. No question I agree with you 100% and if not then I shall be contradicting my own words.
I loved the way you highlighted imagination and the internet and the very "bright" summary of the history of the internet and two of its great founders.
Your writing "So the net result is that the chief blockage to revitalizing imagination on the Internet is ordinary people". This is an outstanding challenge for people to agree with you, but I again agree. The hope isn't in the hands of billionaires trying to multiply their wealth; more it is in the hands of ordinary people. Shared very proudly.10/02/2017 #2 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#1 Dear @debasish majumder the wisest thing I learned to do is pour my heart out, look at it and then eat it again to see what it really tastes like and the resulting digestion is a value called learning. We are virtually programmed to share but you may notice something that Debasish that this is not called a sharing heart, but a sharing economy. It is people like me that represent the hope that Tim Berners-Lee had in providing his discovery http://webfoundation.org/about/vision/history-of-the-web/
For sure the web has its place as the world's greatest shopping cart and selling tool but that is what separates joy from ploy. Remember the word PLOY is a part of the word EMPLOY.
If what I say brings energy into the heart of a man who knows joy then we do not have to contemplate the dimming of hope but the brightness of joy. The joy of learning in my heart will remain greater than the ploy of hope. Earn joy in the employ of hope.
So if a man wants to sell, then he makes a 100 cold calls to get 1 warm sale.
Then compare this with hope, he has 10000 hopes to get 1 moment of joy
Now my dear friend @Ali Anani must surely agree with me in absolute 100% agreement that hope is 100 times harder than selling !!!
Comments02/02/2017 #29 Anonymous#27 Thank you very much dear @Praveen Raj Gullepalli! That's all I have to say, as you so eloquently put it. I presented my thoughts and dilemmas about effective communication on social media within my articles and in numerous discussions here, but also on the other social media.. Cheers and more cheers to you too!02/02/2017 #27 Praveen Raj GullepalliAll said and done dear Milos, you do genuinely love connecting with folks! You deserve that accolade. Personally I would say you have been the most misunderstood bee (folks have mistaken your passing statements for gospel truth and new religion, without understanding the conversations afore-spoken and not bothering to look deeper into the relationships and affinities built already; You stood alone even when no dear voice was raised to defend your words (except maybe a couple feeble ones); I have also seen you bullied at times but you do put up with a lot here on beBee and forgivingly so...and continue to win hearts and stay true to our spirit of affinity ;) Cheers and more cheers to you!02/02/2017 #22 Mamen 🐝 DelgadoMy dear @Milos Djukic, you really ARE one of the Best Networkers I've ever met. Your fractal mind and soul are two wonderful trampolines to "spread" yourself beyond the tangible.
This award is absolutely deserved. Congrats for it!! Such a pleasure we have found each other... 💫✨💫02/02/2017 #18 David B. Grinberg#16 Thanks for the "shout out" Milos and thanks for all YOU do!
You've always been extremely helpful, gracious and kind in all of your social media interactions with me over many years. You are indeed a scholar and a gentlemen (literally and figuratively). You will always be a VIP with me!02/02/2017 #13 Anonymous#11 Thanks @Jim Murray, my friend. This is the gratitude from a good man. Each c-butterfly deserves gratitude from others. All of you are best networkers. If LinkedIn network does not care about us, maybe we could care a little more. The same personal award from Richard have also received on LI @Laurent Boscherini, @David B. Grinberg and also some other people and rightly so. That's what It's all about or fractals forever.
- Producer30/01/2017The Reality of Virtual RelationshipsWhy are some online relationships so SPECIAL? Many of us feel that something is different about beBee. Some of us notice a shift in the world at large. I'd like to hypothesize that the internet has brought us to a new evolution of...
Comments09/02/2017 #29 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#27 Perfect quote, @Chas ✌️ Wyatt. It captures some of what I conveyed in comments on @Joel Anderson's series of posts about footprints and lines.
This is a both/and situation.
Fresh perspectives, clean slates, starting from scratch, not being attached to things are all occasionally preferred.
Other scenarios require an established path, a line that we will not cross, the tracks of a life well-lived.
It is all part of the duality of life. Just like in-person or virtual relationships.
We now have the technology for it to be a dynamic, joy-promoting Both/And depending on circumstances.09/02/2017 #28 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#26 I was so touched by your comment, @🐝 Fatima Williams, that I just kept rereading it. A worthy response was eluding me until now.
We may have lost the comfort of belonging to a village, but we cannot discount the soul enlivening effect of finding the perfect virtual village.09/02/2017 #27 Chas ✌️ Wyatt"It is a pleasant feeling to be the first to walk on sands which the tide has just left. It is like being the first to visit a new land. It produces a freshness of sensation something akin to that of early morning, or of spring. It is like entering upon a new stage of life, having a new world before us from which to receive, and upon which to make impressions." ~Henry James Slack (1818–1896), "The Ministry of the Beautiful", "Conversation II: Footsteps on the Sand," 1850.08/02/2017 #26 🐝 Fatima Williams@Deb 🐝 Helfrich Having had the opportunity to have a personal chat with you I know I'm blessed beyond words can describe for having met you.
The way I describe my relationship with you is as below
"The energy I collectively feel is unique. It feeds my soul in a new, exciting, and fulfilling ways. It satisfies my heart with a feeling of a content conversation"
Fulfilment and satisfaction of talking to someone. I haven't had that in a very long time. As real friends tend to drift away seemingly concerned about their social status. People like me who is no longer worried who got the lastest car or designer clothes tend to drift away in search of meaning and true relationships.
As I mentioned in my Why I love beBee buzz. I found beBee and it replaced the human connection I needed at that time. Is there any better way for me to explain how I feel about being here and knowing you all. Thank you.Stay blessed.31/01/2017 #23 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#13 I truly value your comment, Sara. There is definitely some discussion needed here to understand how it is that we have, in some cases, these really vibrant relationships happening in tiny 2-D comment boxes. We are still in the rather early stages of getting to know each other, but if life where to occur and we became neighbors, I suspect that our concepts of each other would just blossom with all the new sensory information and 'time' to learn about how we participate in daily life.
I just cannot get around the fact that the Sara I imagine talking/typing to is in my own head. It will be coming up on a year that we've been in an orbit of friendship and the amount of data points we have both directly and via numerous other people is a rather immense set of information. But I am still creating a version of you that exists in my own mind.
We've been doing this since kids with books. I can vibrantly describe most of the books I have read in terms of a full bodily existence, even though so many of these sensory details are likely my own construct. So I don't really see it as transcending bodies exactly, just setting aside some of the realities.
For instance, I find it jolting sometimes when one of the Australians mentions how hot it is, when it is winter in Seattle. Other times, most likely when they have mentioned place, the heat is a given.
What is similar between interacting with imagination when reading books and interacting with reality when conversing on social media is that many parts of the background and environment are filled by my own local senses. While what is different is that you can answer in your own unique and completely different words. It can be a new sense in a very practical way, while also being extraordinarily magical and spiritual.31/01/2017 #21 Sara Jacobovici#17 Your generous (and flattering) invitation is too good to pass up. It will be my pleasure to take part in the dynamic meeting organized by you two ladies @Cyndi wilkins. I sent Deb a PM that although I can not commit to the first meeting, I will keep my "eyes and ears open" to future opportunities.31/01/2017 #18 Renée 🐝 CormierI have to say, I have met some truly wonderful people on beBee. In my opinion, beBee is the only social media platform that really makes it easy to develop friendships with other members. A world where people seek out commonalities and community will always be more loving and peaceful than a world focused on separation and differences. This microcosm called beBee is a good place. It's god to communicate with kind-hearted people like you, @Deb 🐝 Helfrich.31/01/2017 #17 Cyndi wilkins#15 Perhaps the "Time" is right to take a small step beyond the boundaries of the "Read" and dip your toe in a little....Sounds like we have a couple of discussions emerging here that would present the perfect opportunities for us all to finally meet...face to face and ear to ear:-) @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and I would be honored if you would consider lending us an ear and better yet your input on some up and coming discussions we will be hosting. The first of the series will begin this Saturday, Feb. 4th via Skype. Check out the above link for details...We would love to "See" you all there!31/01/2017 #16 Mohammed Sultan@Deb 🐝 Helfrich.Your ideas are hitting our imagination as the sea waves are always hitting the shore of the pacific.I find such group discussions are quite natural ,since they convey the emotions,feelings and thoughts which shape people's personal brands on beBee.Thank you Deb.31/01/2017 #13 Sara JacoboviciDear @Deb 🐝 Helfrich, I am slowly allowing myself to land from your piece as I attempt to form the words I need to communicate with you. (Deep breath.) First, let me thank you for the mention and for being in any way connected to your writing. I feel privileged to have witnessed the process you described, intellectually and artistically, of your SM self-discovery here on beBee. My "sense" of you is that you are an exceptional human being, with your heart in the right place, and your mind "a right place". And speaking of places....you write: when we "look past their body and 24/7 personality and our own typical human senses and we communicate directly with someone else as pure consciousness that actually lives inside of our own mind." From my perspective, this reflects you are in a different place than me. I am still where you write in the "full, physical, proximal, flawed" sensory, complicated body. If I had to place myself, I would be, not in the new sense you describe but "pivoting" on my older senses. I have never been good at transcending the physical. I am still navigating the integration of the physical, psychological and spiritual. My experiences of SM is still connected to the meanings I have formed from my sensory experiences. I am very "conscious" of being open to expanding my experiences and awareness but that is an expansion of my existing boundaries. I have yet to navigate outside those boundaries. You, Deb, have truly broken through and have reached beyond. All the power to you!
- 29/01/2017It is not just about having a lot of Twitter followers or speaking to crowds, it is about being so good at what you do that other people want to learn from you3 Ways Building Your Personal Brand Boosts Your Careerwww.entrepreneur.com Put yourself out there. It's the only way to achieve your...
- Producer28/01/2017A George Jetson Moment: With Deb HelfrichAfter putting my life on hold for a bit and tending to family matters, my engine has been sputtering for a little while as I've been trying to get back on track. Sometimes we all just need a good "boot in the ass" my father would say...if he were...
Comments11/02/2017 #17 Cyndi wilkinsAbsolutely trie @Savvy Raj...Collaboration feeds the soul...I am reminded of your beautiful post as it is..."A gathering of the like-minded...A deeper consciousness...Artists who can create unhindered."
And it is true that @Deb 🐝 Helfrich embodies that deeper awareness of her "soul-self" in ways that feed others within the flock...It is no coincidence that she managed to ignite my creative fire again...It's what she does...Lighting candles in the dark;-)
Your generous offer of help is much appreciated...We are connected now so I will keep you posted;-)
Cyndi11/02/2017 #16 Savvy RajIn the strength of collaboration amazing are bounties that spring up in these interconnects .. Great blog @Cyndi wilkins and can actually sense such a heartfelt connect as well with @Deb 🐝 Helfrich who endears as much as she empowers with the strength of her soul. Your ideas are interesting . Let me know if you feel I could be of help in any way as well .01/02/2017 #15 Cyndi wilkins#13 And there you have it @Todd Jones...Lucky for me, @Deb 🐝 Helfrich is the techno genius around here...She managed to inspire a computer train wreck like me to get with the program! If I can do it, ANYBODY can;-) She was my very gentle "boot in the ass!" She is brilliant and will figure out a way to include anyone who wishes to take part in this adventure! One of the many things that drew me in to wanting a more personal connection with Deb was hearing the sound of her voice in an interview with @Chris Spurvey...He is an incredibly powerful presence on SM as well...I love the "Fireside Chats"...There is so much potential out here for weaving one of the most influential networks in the world...We are hoping to inspire people to reach "beyond to read," and awaken our senses in a way that cannot be accomplished in a "comment box." Hearing her voice was like priming the engine...But when I saw her face in "real time," or as @Milos Djukic refers to as the "present moment," the engine roared back to life so fast I had to watch the speedometer before I started crashing into the walls! Damned walls;-)28/01/2017 #5 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.#4 that is truly honoring @Deb 🐝 Helfrich, she deserves it! And what more is, it says also a lot about you @Cyndi wilkins!28/01/2017 #4 Cyndi wilkins#1 @Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.....Meeting @Deb 🐝 Helfrich in a face to face exchange like this really defines the power of the internet. Deb is one of the most extraordinary writers out there...unmatched on any platform I have seen thus far. But she is also one of the most down-to- Earth individuals you will ever meet. She gives of herself in a way that is rarely seen in this world of "me first," and asks nothing in return. It is time for that to change for her. The actual moment of impact comes when you see her in "real" time. Hearing the vibration of her voice as it strikes a visceral chord of familiarity is a "connection" that cannot be experienced in any other way. The energetic current is now "plugged in" and ready for action. She has a lot to offer the world;-)28/01/2017 #1 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.
- Producer27/01/2017Asking Questions- limitations and scopeThe biggest reality in life is people. Understanding what motivates people to do what they do through questioning them might seem the solution. In reality, this isn't the case always. I would even dare to say that some questions increase the fog...
Comments29/01/2017 #35 Mohammed Sultan#33 I Well said Sara,questions reflect more than the answers...and your wisdom also reflects more than the administered questionnaires !,this's why we always advise researchers to get out and talk to people.Researchers who don't get out and meet with customers are not real researchers,but data collectors or databasers. Data is collected by different ways depending on the purpose and context of the study through questionnaires in quantitative studies and topic guides in qualitative studies or focus groups.Because qualitative focus groups are more concerned with revealing people's attitudes,behaviors,perceptions and aspirations,we often advise R&D scientists,and both marketers and advertisers,particularly those in creative jobs, to get out and observe the course of the group discussions through one-way mirrors.If a copywriter attends such groups,it will expose him to the possibility that a "chance remark" may suggest the germ of a new idea.The same with a R&D scientist,he/she will be exposed to "observe and design" situation.Exposing the lively minds of those people certainly will lead to a relative creative and innovative breakthrough,and confirm your conclusion of "questions reflect more than the answers" and also my remark of ; " your wisdom reflects more than the administered questionnaires."28/01/2017 #34 Ali Anani#33 I am so glad that you find the buzz relevant dear @Sara Jacobovici. Your comment counts heavily because and as usual you understood me very well. Yes, I do agree with you in that collecting ideas just for the sake of it serves no real purpose. If the purpose of asking is defined well, then we may be able to construct the right questions. I appreciate your kind words and these words make my writing journey purposeful. I need assurances that what I write adds some value and I am glad this buzz did no matter by what margin.28/01/2017 #33 Sara JacoboviciIronic that the system measures your buzz as a 1 minute read @Ali Anani. Not only did your buzz make me reread a few phrases like, "I would even dare to say that some questions increase the fog in front of us and we even become less understanding of what motivates people and how they make choices", but reading the comments and your replies kept my interest for much longer! It's great to see you moving from Flavio's buzz that asks existential type questions to focusing on human behavior and especially motivation. Both types are just as complex. There is a real reason why the Socratic method of learning through questions is so valuable. Questions reflect more than the answers. And that is why I feel, returning to your engaging perspective of surveys, that it may not be the questions that increase the fog but the choice of the questions and how they are administered. The success of your surveys reinforces that for me; you were thoughtful about the questions, how to word and construct rather than just ask questions to produce an answer for purposes of collecting data. There is an art to asking questions and your buzz demonstrates that.28/01/2017 #32 Ali AnaniYou said so beautifully @Mohammed Sultan that I have nothing to add. I mean "."In effect,research and planning are made to fill the gap between a perfect formal knowledge and the need to act in state of imperfect knowledge,away from depending on our past held beliefs". Even when we think we know, soon we realize there remains so much more to know.28/01/2017 #31 Mohammed SultanResearch ,in general, is not and can't be,a precise measuring instruments ,despite its scientific base.In addition,surveys underestimate the complexity of human behavior and attitude.But,the merit of research lies in its ability to keep org and researchers in close contact with people.The human approach is what's matter in research.Research,more than any other org discipline,is concerned with the thoughts,feeling and attitudes which influence people perceptions ,behavior and response which they may be un aware of or an able to articulate.What's also unique about research is; its association with strategic planning.Formal research studies is the proper alternative of the past held belief that makes organizations captives of the past.I have repeated in many of my previous comments and still this statement on the role of research "It has to be conceded that knowledge about people is not necessarily of scientific nature,not only that ;possibly the phenomenon of humanity will never be susceptible to the kind of dominating prestige of social science."In effect,research and planning are made to fill the gap between a perfect formal knowledge and the need to act in state of imperfect knowledge,away from depending on our past held beliefs.28/01/2017 #30 Ali Anani#29 This is truly a wonderful comment dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I love it because it reflects forward thinking "I don't want to fight with people who are still experiencing the past and have no inkling that the future is what is seeded in their present". I love the restaurant example. It shall reside in my memory.28/01/2017 #29 CityVP 🐝 ManjitMarketing like everything else is evolving. A relative from in-laws in Leicester has a catering business where he too offers free dishes and actually does ask people to select three dishes. I consider him, like you to be more evolved on the evolutionary tree. He is beating is competitors hands down - so this kind of evolved thinking is beginning to reveal itself.
Even if one could explain this as process, if we have not learned to see this way - we will continue in the old way. I don't want to fight with people who are still experiencing the past and have no inkling that the future is what is seeded in their present.28/01/2017 #28 Ali Anani#27 Dear @Mohammed Sultan- thank you so much for your comprehensive comment and highlighting what to do and not to do in an interview. Interviewers with high EI avoid embarrassing interviewees. Your comment is truly a guide to good interviews. This is a topic of its own. I salute you for sharing your vivid experience in this regard. My buzz focused on asking revealing questions whether in print or face-to-face encounters. No matter what how good the interviewers are or healthy the environment still asking the right questions is a necessity. I do appreciate your elaboration.28/01/2017 #27 Mohammed SultanDear @Ali Anani PhD.Interviewers have to be trained not only for his role in asking questions but also on how to put the interviewee at ease to build trust and express his views freely.To gain the interviewee cooperation the interviewers are generally encouraged to use their own words ;the words that often printed on the questionnaire.Even any tiny changes in wording can affect the interviewee perception.If an interviewee seems to have misunderstood or misinterpreted a question the interviewer should not try to explain it in different words or guide the interviewee to specific answer.Also,it's often difficult to keep the interviewee to the point .If for any reason the interviewee starts to answer one question by giving information that's asked for in a later question the interviewer should politely stop him,explaining that the point is going to be covered later.If the interviewee wishes to go back to a previous question to change or add to his answer ,the interviewer should take a note without changing the sequence of the questions.To add informality to the interview by using link phrases,it's important that these phrases have no bearing on the answers given and thus can't bias the results.Interviewers should also be trained on how to avoid any bias resulting from the interviewee faulty memory or distraction or embarrassment about sensitive issues and also be trained on probing their questions particularly when the interviewee use ambiguous words.28/01/2017 #26 Ali Anani#25 First, I thank you heartedly dear friend @David Navarro López for sharing your personal story. I think this story is a buzz on its own because it is a perfect example of how the environment and circumstances change the emphasis. Your response differed because the passion in your answer to your mother differed from the passion to the company's owner.Variable circumstances require variant responses. All of them were true, but the priority changed.
However; if you had three interviews for three different companies may be then your response would not have changed that much. My last point is that the question influences our responses. If the question was phrased differently then you would have answered it differently. This is what I tried to highlight in this buzz.28/01/2017 #25 AnonymousOnce again, a very challenging post, my admired friend. Would like to bring some sand grains to it.
I have been in many interviews, on both sides of the table. How the questions are done is certainly a big issue to consider. But in my opinion there are other components can not be ignored, like the environment or circumstances, the momentum, and the feelings between the two parties.
On my most recent job interview, I was asked by the owner of the company why I wanted to work for his company. Answer was, because I wanted to work for a company that makes great machines, which is my passion. My mom set the same question, and my answer was, because it is a german company, so I will have a safe work within a country that gives great social benefits. To my friends, the answer was that I was tired of wasting my talent in a job/country where it was no longer possible to grow as a professional. To my daughter and sister, because I thought it was the time to make a big change in my life, challenging myself to continue my personal growth, now that my family responsibilities had changed.
All the answers are true. The question was the same in all cases.27/01/2017 #20 Ali Anani#19 Obivously you have a deep understanding of surveys dear @Mohammed Sultan. Your comment is superb and highlights the role of surveys n completing a feasibility study. I agree fully with you.
Unfortunately, many times the survey asks questions with the wrong wordings and style. They provide answers, but not to the need of the feasibility. It is a repeating problem because when we do surveys we ask questions that either affect the position of the interviewees or their behavioral direction and motivation. We can't know precisely the position and direction simultaneously and we end up confusing ourselves.
You must have a reason to mention the 65%. I don't have the statistics, but it seems a valid one. Again, I thank you my friend for writing such a comprehensive comment.27/01/2017 #19 Mohammed SultanQuestionnaire design is the context of the questions asked.Questionnaires come in many varieties.We regularly resort to ask questions or depend on surveys to fill any gap in our knowledge resulting from secondary sources.We sometimes conduct qual research or focus groups to add insights to the numerical data obtained from quant.surveys.The type of questions asked depend on the nature of the study which differs according to its purpose; whether it's on the basic attitudes and behaviors of the interviewees or concerned with the "context"in which the research is conducted(ie.trade vs consumer,retail vs non-retail).
They also differ according the application or the purpose whether it's on ad targeting and segmentation,NPD,pricing,image ,motivation or employee motivation and satisfaction surveys.
Questionnaires come also in many shapes and sizes ,from postcards to be filled in by interviewees to multi-page documents to be filled in by the interviewer.
A good questionnaire and the question asked have to be designed to suit the study objectives and the nature of the interviewee.
As long as food is always concerned,to give marketing justifications for opening a new restaurant,the proposal should be the document on which the researcher should determine the objectives and the methodology of the study.For the requirements of any feasibility study the proposal should include three waves ;Desk Research ,Trade Research and Consumer Surveys(qual then quant).Surveys are always conducted to fill any gaps resulting from the Desk Research.Based on the findings of these three types of researches( 65 % of the feasibility)the researcher will be in a position to give a decision of whether( to- go or not- to -go) with the project.As for the types of questions asked and which is suitable for which context it can be discussed according to the development of the discussion,if there's a necessity.Thank you dear @Ali Anani PhD.for your insightful post.
- Producer27/01/2017Finding the Right BalanceWHERE IS THE LINE BETWEEN FREE EXPRESSION AND OFFENSIVE SPEACH, AND DOES IT EVEN MATTER? ... What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist. ― Salman Rushdie I am a long-time supporter of beBee USA. ...
Comments31/01/2017 #298 John VaughanThanks @Gerald Hecht
Private messaging thru beBee should work, if we're connected. (I just won't be publishing or responding 'publicly' for a while)
Connect w/ me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jvprofile
and maybe thru my blog https://jcvtcsblog.wordpress.com/ ... if you follow it (hint, hint)
Words to live by:
'Tis far better to beg forgiveness
Than to ask permission31/01/2017 #296 Gerald Hecht#292 @John Vaughan I pretty much go with 1) catlike curiosity, and 2) complete ignorance of any rules (or forgetting to consider the possibility that there are any rules) won't result in any of my "experiments in interactivity" resulting in global thermonuclear war or any creepy junk like that!
That would be horrible!
Downright "Dennis The Menace Like!"31/01/2017 #295 John VaughanUpdate:
I think I'll take me offline for a bit now. The beBee Aficionado ShitStorm of the past week-or-so is emotionally and physically draining (as it has been for the past several months). This socialNet platform hasn't been quite as Poz-itive an experience for me as its self-marketing blurbs claim.
So I'm going to take a break from this particular venue and try to make my own life a little better. Quality of experience is what it's about. I look forward to continuing the dialog with some of you offline.
My Interim Agenda:
* Boring Old LinkedIn is where I first met some of the best of you, and it remains a source of satisfaction in ways that beBee can't. I invite you to join me there (https://www.linkedin.com/today/author/0_33yLQDnNkqLRm-bXWm38zJ) and on Quora (https://www.quora.com/profile/John-Vaughan), two of the socialNet environments that manage to balance professionalism and engagement with grace and efficiency.
* My resume website (http://www.jcvtcs.com/) and particularly my blog (https://jcvtcsblog.wordpress.com/) are hopefully as satisfying for you as they are for me. I hope to see you there.
* @John White, MBA offers to open a substantive dialog on difficult issues in #211. It deserves a considered response and I appreciate the opportunity to provide one. It's been a long time coming and I want to focus on doing it well. In the meantime, I hope that others will feel comfortable taking John up on his invitation. As per his comment, his direct number is 970.692.3270. I assume he'll provide a link to where we can "report [issues] so [they] can be addressed" by beBee.
To quote The Master, "I'll be back."31/01/2017 #294 Phil Friedman#290 The only solution, Christine, is free speech itself. Open and vigorous exchange. And faith that the truth will out. My experience is that those who counsel control of what can be said, are those who are committed to "winning" the argument vs finding the truth. Cheers!31/01/2017 #293 John Vaughan#291 "not try to force it into a preconceived form" sez @Phil Friedman
First "Sort of ... But Not Really", then "TagBlast", then "Finding the Right Balance"
I see each of these as part of a 'natural' evolutionary progression - a more-or-less understandable fugue on a theme, shaped in part by the agendas of the contributors (including Commenters).
I believe that both of us are unreserved and generous in our willingness to share our wisdom with the rest of the world. Much of the value is in the 'preconceived form" that we contribute. The rest is pure Dance.
I think we agree about Trolls. Skoal31/01/2017 #292 John Vaughan#286 Clarification of my perspective @Gerald Hecht:
"Gaming the system" does not have pejorative implications for me or - in my opinion - many of the others who work professionally in the interactive design/analysis arena:
1. Systems inherently have rules
2. the rules are sometimes consciously intended to construct a morality (i.e. We won't let you do this because it's bad)
3. many times the rules are simply unintended artifacts of functionality and implementation (i.e. We won't let you do this because ... that's how we made it)
"Gaming the system" is any solution that gets around the limits/rules of the system in order to accomplish *what you want*
There's blah-blah aplenty about INTENT (Gaining Advantage Over Others vs Getting Satisfaction). I'm kinda utilitarian about it. Both are true.
If you're focused on Outrage, then you have your opportunity.
I like Solutions. An insight about "gaming the system" is that it often indicates the Need for a Solution. As the author of a few 'solutions' that've found value in the marketplace (http://www.jcvtcs.com/solutions/software.html), I'll state categorically that 'gaming the system' and 'hacking' underlie the creation of many solutions.
Outrage or Solutions?
Y'all have fun31/01/2017 #291 Phil Friedman#285 Itmay seem ironic coming from me, John, but sometimes one can be over-reflective and over-analytic. These long comment threads are like an extended grad school discussion being carried on in the quad of s university. The seriousness and activity waxes and wanes as people join and leave, and sometimes the talk is idling in wait for someone new to sit down. The key is to accept it for what it is and not try to force it into a preconceived form. That said, in the early stages of a thread, I do think it important to resist those whom I deem passive-aggressive trolls -- who attempt to hijack the conversation and take it far off topic. Cheers!31/01/2017 #290 Christine Stevens#289 Not a problem at all. I've always been of the opinion that if someone is being an ass, everyone will see it, so I just let them keep going until they hang themselves.
I used to be far more of an absolutist when it came to free speech, especially as a former journalist, but I am completely disillusioned by the media. The outright lies that they won't retract, even in the face of the facts makes me wonder if there shouldn't be some accountability tied to such a critical responsibility. Then I realize that would essentially become censorship and decide its better to have a flawed protection of free speech than none at all. It doesn't make me any less hostile or contemptuous of the media though.31/01/2017 #285 John Vaughan#273 Re: My speculation as to whether"this thread still has 'legs'" beyond the usual 48 hours...
It seems that we're still tootling along, tho I'll also observe that only a few of us are chatting merrily amongst ourselves. Mind you, it is for the most part an intelligent, witty, and articulate crew, but I still wonder .... Where next?
I hope that we can move on from the sticky Communication 'Tar Baby' Diversions of historical accusations, academic word-smithing, and the suchlike.
There's a potential to take the dynamic of energy, insight, and socialNet behavior to some interesting places. Of course, I love theMirror. Exploring How & Why We Do It can lead to some observations about How It Should Work.
Well, that's kinda hand-wavy. But please take another look at #27331/01/2017 #284 Gerald Hecht#280 @Phil Friedman Recently, I heard about an (apparently) extremely effective technique of simultaneously 1) promoting one's personal brand, and 2) communicating an idea/aspect of one's ideology (or complete absence of same)...the aspect of the following methodology is that it's effectiveness IS INDEPENDENT of the quality and quantity of engagement!
Specifically, one simply sends out a bunch of tweets at 3:36AM local time.
That's all there is to it!!!!31/01/2017 #281 Camille MariThank you for this @Phil Friedman, you said it all. :) "But a person is not abusive when he or she says or publishes statements that we simply don't like or which make us personally uncomfortable or with which we strongly disagree." - that`s the problem of writing on the Internet, sometimes people feel anger where there is just a simple "disagree".
I had a few "battles" in the past and learnt when to write and not to write, even If I disagree with someone on something. But I never ever comment on politics to avoid big drama, misunderstanding and as much as I love twitter it can be a "dramosphere" concerning politics.31/01/2017 #280 Phil Friedman#278 Chas, I agree with you here. What we call here a "tag" is a workaround used by implied mutual consent because the volume of new posts sometimes makes it hard for a reader to see the new post of someone they follow. But "workaround" is neutral, whereas "gaming the system" is clearly pejorative. One might, however, argue that the use of a workaround indicates a need to modify the system. Much like the walking paths worn in the grass of a campus indicate the need for some new stone walkways in those locations. Thank you for joining the conversation. (?? @Claire 🐝 Cardwell re the walkway metaphor and architecture.)31/01/2017 #279 Phil Friedman#276 Yep, Jim, baffling that someone should be obsessed with the situation for more than four years now. And to the extent of misrepresenting it via innuendo and in-detailed accusation.
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@jim-able/beware-of-imposters-there-is-only-one-real-jim-able View more#276 Yep, Jim, baffling that someone should be obsessed with the situation for more than four years now. And to the extent of misrepresenting it via innuendo and in-detailed accusation.
- Producer26/01/2017#resist 40 Twitter Accounts To FollowTrump vs. Scientists and National ParksOfficial accounts deleted their tweets about climate change and the size of the crowd at ... (yeah, we´re all tired of discussing it...).But, oh, look! Here are 40 new "unofficial" accounts to...
Comments27/01/2017 #17 Pamela 🐝 WilliamsEvery US citizen and every diplomat now have no knowledgeable support. That our gutless leaders approved Tillerson said everything about their ability to lead this country. Remember the last time this country was totally controlled by the GOP we entered the Great Depression. EPA gone? Hell, this country will probably be a gone within a year with a bunch of psychopaths taking total control.27/01/2017 #15 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher#12 For sure @Dean Owen. More and more earthquakes happening in areas that were never earthquake prone. I have a friend and her husband is an Oil Mogel. He was very upset when the price of gas went down because obviously the price of a barrel of oil goes down too. I felt bad that he wasn't able to buy the Audi he purchases every 2 yrs as a tax deduction for her... it's only priced at 80K and he pays cash for one every 2 yrs along with buying new fleets of trucks every few years too. Fracking, uggh... water contamination as well. Yes @Aurorasa Sima, all high level officials that left or were asked to leave. Everything that is going on right now is something I've never witnessed in my lifetime.27/01/2017 #14 Aurorasa Sima#11 Wow ... that´s intense. #resist
I liked this headline: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/?utm_term=.de67ee6ce70627/01/2017 #11 Lisa 🐝 Gallagherwow. these accounts were just created. How long before many of the same verified accounts are gone? Thanks for posting these. By the way, I can share (but not my source) that A certain Govn't conservation Agency for National Forest was told they aren't allowed to talk to the Newspaper. This is a first in the US this has ever happened. The questions were deferred to another state. Can't say where, just take my word, it's real.27/01/2017 #8 Aurorasa Sima#2 I am pleased that government agencies, from NASA to FDA create "unofficial" accounts. That said, we´ll be amazed when we look back at this episode in a few years from now and that scientists felt the need for a "March for Science" in 2017 in a leading democratic country.
PS. Thank you for sharing, @David B. Grinberg26/01/2017 #2 CityVP 🐝 ManjitTo think the World's No.1 Personal Brand has not even been the President for a week and we have four more years to go. From this point forward 2020 represents for me the metaphor for personal vision and when November 2020 arrives 2020 will return to be a particular year again. It is time for me to invest in #metaphorical-aikido.
- Producer15/08/2016Reputation Management: Five things a certain bird never told youIt’s true. Everyone makes mistakes. Big Bird sang a whole song about it. In business, however, mistakes can cost you the reputation of your entire brand. A DUI charge, embezzlement charges, sexual harassment charges; any criminal allegation that...
Comments27/01/2017 #5 David B. GrinbergVery sound advice, Renee. Regrets for missing this post earlier. I've shared on three communications hives. It appears to me that too many companies, CEOs, politicians, etc., still forget the age-old Watergate axiom: the cover up is worse than the crime. Nothing is worse for PR, brand image or reputation management than having a slow drip-drip-drip of bad news coming out like "Chinese water torture" over the course of days, weeks or months. Rather, "hang a lantern on it." Be transparent and get all the bad info out all at once to limit the damage and contain the crisis. It's just baffling how often this advice goes unheeded. Thanks again for a buzz-worthy read.
- Producer07/01/2017On the Limits of Free ExpressionWE MAY ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREELY EXPRESS IDEAS AND OPINIONS BUT IS ANYONE OBLIGATED TO LISTEN, LET ALONE ANSWER ...The issue of what is and what isn't acceptable expression on social media comes up frequently, particularly on platforms such as...
Comments23/01/2017 #85 Donna-Luisa Eversley@Phil Friedman had a slower read of this super post and find it even more relevant today in a broader sense than when you first published. I appreciate my freedom of speech more now than ever before. I even appreciate my freedom of choice to listen, respond , follow and engage with others worldwide, many of whom must be guarded in their own responses, for fear of possible reprisals. Social media may bring us closer as units of this world but it also makes it a lot easier to divide us all.
Just thinking out loud while reading :-)09/01/2017 #82 Phil Friedman#80 Excellent simile, Pascal. It's where I've finally arrived after several years. 1) On MY posts I speak my mind. If you come onto my post to comment, then expect that I will respond. If you don't want that, don't come to the comments on MY posts. And let's drop the "Phil's a meany and started it all when he hit me back." 2) I am making an extra effort to respect the sensitivities of others these days by not making critical comments on the posts of others unless a) I've been invited to comment by a tag or a shout out, or b) I have an established relationship with the author of the post and know he or she will accept the critical comment for what it is. 3) I leave it to management to eject rowdy, obnoxious fellow-customers — although I personally prefer that management exercise that prerogative sparingly. Thanks for joining the conversation. You make a lot of sense, as usual.09/01/2017 #80 Pascal DerrienI was thinking in very practical terms that social media is you do what you want in your own house, you respect other users in a public park and the management reserves the right to admission to the restaurant providing you comply with basic rules of engagement otherwise you can be escorted out thru the exit door... :-)09/01/2017 #78 Phil Friedman#76 Donna-Luisa, you are, I think, correct. There is always a tension between a desire for intellectual engagement and the need to protect oneself from emotional predators.
To my mind, "trolls" almost always fall into the latter category. For they literally draw sustenance from the negative emotional energy they elicit. And in some cases, it becomes a game of King of the Hill -- which is why it is so distressing to them to be ignored.
As true bullies, they've learned as well that making people uncomfortable frequently gets the what they want, in a recreation of buy-the-bully-off, otherwise known as the Stockholm Syndrome. As always, thank you for you insight and thoughtful comments. Cheers!09/01/2017 #77 Phil Friedman#75 Mohammed, thank you for reading and commenting. I understand your concern and the moral imperative which you recommend. And I have sometimes been able to act in accord with it -- in several instances using tolerance and playfulness to draw out a supposed troll into communicating openly without a hidden agenda, and becoming part of the community.
In some few cases it works, and is gratifying But most times it doesn't. Because, I 've concluded, such people usually do not want to join a community. For they truly lack empathy and see others as objects to be used. And are most times, are best ignored.09/01/2017 #76 Donna-Luisa Eversley@Phil Friedman I have noted your efforts to ignore being baited and found one individual quite upset and persistent by your lack of response on one of your posts. I was confused initially about why you did not respond as it became creepy and obsessive. It was interesting to watch, but also uncomfortable. I am guilty at times of really shying away from negativity which is offensive. However, I have learnt in 2016 that I don't need to read or respond to anyone I choose not to engage with. Your discussion on free speech matters , because it is critical to deffrentiate between trollish behavior and an opinion of disagreement. The lines seem blurred on what offends sometimes, and it can be quite subjective. My only fear and concern is we lose when all thoughts mirror our own and there is no yin to yang. Disagreement can protect against fake or fraudulent information dispensed via social media by psudeo experts. Quite an interesting discussion and much needed.09/01/2017 #75 Mohammed Sultan@ Phil Friedman.Fruity trees are always thrown by stones.You either ignore the troll or support him.Those irrational people are acting emotionally ,so they need to be understood and supported until they balance their emotion with reason.In the workplaces there's many who are trolling others ideas because no body listened to their ideas.We always advice companies not to suppress their views or get them blamed for their behavior because they are often me - too people.Their capabilities depends more on their feelings ,emotions and hidden knowledge rather than relationships with others.Show them the glint of light on their broken heart after they had trolled.Kant the French philosopher said "In how a man is guilty,who he violates the rights of others,in ethics he is guilty if he only thinks of doing this." Phil, patience is a true sign of authenticity that provides you with the energy to go further.09/01/2017 #72 Phil Friedman#71 Thanks, Franci, for reading and joining the conversation. For the most part, I agree with your summary. I am moved, however, to caution everyone about the too-free use of sanctions. In the matter of freedom of expression, I think it is always better on social media to err on the side of being too liberal, and use official sanctions only when it is obvious that the issue cannot be cleared up by the free reigning interactions of the community. Cheers and best wishes to you for the new year 2017.09/01/2017 #71 Franci🐝Eugenia HoffmanThank you for your professional approach to freedom of expression, Phil. Perhaps, a fragile subject but one worthy of being addressed. We can agree and we can disagree (not referencing you and me, per se), and that's fine because if we didn't we would be complacent and drab souls. If we don't test the waters, then we don't know which way the river flows.
IMO, your post is more about freedom of speech than trolls. And it is about writers: those who use written words in various styles and techniques to communicate their ideas.
And it is about listeners(commenters) and their freedom of expression. Both the writer and listener(commenter) should be respected and show respect, as well.
With that said, relating specifically to beBee we have a gift at our fingertips where we can meet, greet, engage, discuss and have freedom of expression and freedom of listening(commenting). I feel it ours to use, but not abuse and not let anyone else abuse it, as well. @Javier 🐝 beBee has proven that abuse will not be tolerated, which is one of the reasons I'm proud to be a bee.
To sum up, my rambling, IMO, it boils down to respect.
Buzz on and be the best you can bee.08/01/2017 #68 Anonymous#66 @Phil Friedman, This is the one of the key aspects necessary for sustainable development of any social network. Unpleasant experiences and unrealistically high expectations and hopes, in contact with other people on social media, should not cause disappointment and loss of faith in humanity, kindness and the importance of helpfulness.08/01/2017 #67 Phil Friedman#62 Tetyana, thank you for commenting. I cannot speak to the charge that there are paid professional trolls on social media, who are agents of various governments, and that such agents use complaints and reporting functions to silence critics of their masters. But I can see that it is definitely a danger. Which is why it is so important to protect the rights of the minority to speak freely against any possible tyranny of the majority. And to make sure that the reporting function is not used unfairly as a tool of repression. Cheers!08/01/2017 #66 Phil Friedman#57 #61 Milos and David, in the main, I agree with both of you. David makes an important point: It is critical to avoid allowing the reporting functions from being used as tools of retaliation and vendetta. The only way to accomplish that is to assure that every complaint is properly investigated before action is taken against the user being reported. As well, I think it important to understand that simply not liking or being made uncomfortable by what somebody says is NOT, nor should it be sufficient for having that person's account closed down. Freedom of expression has primarily to do with protecting the rights of the minority (or less powerful in the situation) from the overbearing power of the majority (or the more powerful in the situation).
I think it should also be recognized that some bees might be upset by what some users say, but that in itself is not sufficient to squelch the speaker's free expression. I was aghast recently by reading a comment by a beBee user that lauded some of Hitler's ideas. And so I muted that bee, and when the block function goes live, I will block that person as well. However, I would not want that person's account closed down simply because I found the remark offensive and unacceptable. For that would itself do more damage to free expression than the objectionable remark itself.
I think Milos lays out some useful criteria in intention, form, and function. And I believe further that a balanced objectivity must be maintained.
That said, I for one trust @Javier beBee and the beBee administration to act with care and good judgment, as has been amply evidenced to date. Cheers!08/01/2017 #65 Anonymous"Philanthropy"
"1. The effort or inclination to increase the well-being of humankind, as by charitable aid or donations.
2. Love of humankind in general.
3. Something, such as an activity or institution, intended to promote human welfare."
- From thefreedictionary.com (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Philantropy)
- Producer30/12/2016Social Media In 2017 Will Be About Physical ProductsHow Snap Inc set the stage for next year’s big trend in social media 2016 is barely over, but I guess you’re already tired of reading summaries of the year. Therefore, let us keep that particular process short:2016 has been about video in general...
Comments30/12/2016 #4 Teresa Gezze#1 Great buzz, @Henrik Ståhl! And thanks for mentioning me. Take a look at the Xmas basket we are giving away in Spain, it has a lot of our branded products in it =). https://www.bebee.com/producer/hive/bebee-espanol/quieres-la-cesta-de-navidad-de-bebee-todos-los-detalles-aqui#c53
- 12/12/2016The Three Boorish Buckets Of Social Media Comments
Are you a comment bore? Probably
Comments13/12/2016 #8 Harvey LloydFamiliarity breeds contempt. I would think that everyone has a vision statement for their participation in social media. Either direct and described or indirect and sub-conscious.
Given a platform such as BeBee i would think the affinity aspects of this would certainly expose all vision statements within a few posts, comments and a little time.
How we interpret these is somewhat unique to the individuals own mission statement, and fundamental value set.13/12/2016 #7 Max🐝 J. CarterThank you for sharing this.
Talk about having to look at oneself honestly and think about making some changes.
This should be standard reading for anyone getting online.
I am judging myself based what I am typing in this comment as I find I am wanting to give acknowledgement more than discuss it as I am afraid of looking back and seeing how true this is.13/12/2016 #6 Aurorasa Sima#5 I agree with you 100 %. Rarely do you find true exchanges and conversation under social media posts. Thank you for clarifying your point of view.
You speak about off- and online, my comment is regarding the online part.
I fully agree regarding the offline part and consider the growth of need-based relationships a serious problem of our society.
I feel that online it is often due to the agendas of people that rarely include getting to know another person or learning what makes them tick.
"Social networking" for most means "social selling" which is nothing else than adapting your sales pitch to a new environment.
Some might have similar reasons like myself: I don´t make friends in public and I don´t fight or argue in public.
But ... if someone is genuinely interested in learning about and discussing my point of view, they will not mind moving the conversation to private.
Perhaps the agenda is a factor worth looking at.
For my posts, I do not require a special form of commenting. Genuine interest cannot be enforced. The fake interest "look how well I read your post and how clever I respond" bug me more than "nice post" comments.
But that is your field of expertise and I value your opinion that is, other than my own, based on experience.13/12/2016 #5 Robert Bacal#4 @Aurorasa Sima Provocative ideas as always. I see being social as interacting but the motivations behind being social don't enter into my definition.
As for the bar being set high, I have to admit to some exageration in the article. My main point was to be that social media rarely involves true dialogue, with both parties trying to learn more about each other. I didn't really make that point well. And I think we need more proactive effort to connect and learn about those we are connecting with.
What gets me is how uncommon it is to see real dialogue - the give and take that happens online or offline, when you have two people trying hard to learn about each other to establish a relationship.
I don't know if that clarifies things. I'm tired..12/12/2016 #4 Aurorasa Sima#3 I feel you have to differentiate.
Are you commenting with an agenda, like promoting your business? Then it might make sense to follow certain forms and rules.
But that would be an an oxymoron, wouldn´t it? How social can you be with a hidden agenda?
Imagine you truly surf around to make buddies and for entertainment.
There have even been much discussed articles on here that "forbid" certain expressions and demand a style of commenting that has been described in detail.
Creating engagement is hard as it is. I feel you should not put the bar too high.
That said, I am grateful for your advice and you increase awareness about how certain forms of commenting might be perceived.
I don´t think that rhetorical questions qualify.
But I´ll research it further (code XNFGU)
PS: Some research gets harder when script blocker and VPN get in the way
PSPS: Nice post!
.12/12/2016 #3 Robert Bacal#1 @Aurorasa Sima The code has to do with some research I'm doing, and I plan on explaining it, and the research results once enough time has passed for me to see enough "data", and draw some conclusions.
We're all comment bores. See? (Does "see?" count as a question to be bore free, I wonder? :)
- Producer08/12/2016What I learned from interviewing #TheContenders beBee, Anchor, Steller, Talkshow, and BuskerAs some of you already know, I've been conducting interviews with co-founders and representatives of newly founded social network – within the specific platforms. It's been a joyful (and sometimes challenging) endeavour. And, last but not least:...
Comments09/12/2016 #17 Mohammed Sultan#16 It's a practical strategy to be in different markets ,it's one of many tracks of the product extension concept and the product that creates businesses.It's also not practical to enter such markets with one- track mind depending on a single entry method associated with the country of origin because the common interests of users will be different and also there's no one company for one world.Even large companies like Facebook or Google or Linked in with all their power have to adapt their operating model and formulate multiple entry strategies.For a start up like beBee,their market entry strategy is better implemented on the back of a well established media or online or even large software company.Also,the dynamic nature of the Indian and South East Asian markets makes it impossible for a single model to work effectively in all markets.Careful analysis of these markets can determine the most appropriate entry strategy.09/12/2016 #16 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThank you for the clarification Henrik. Bebee used to be Spanish, now I view it as global. We are both bee's of this evolving BeBee. Some of my favourite Bee's here are from Brazil, and they are Portuguese. Whatever we think beBee is, is what we think and that is good, because that is diversity in action and in flow. This buzz must flow even further even if the origins were Spanish, but then the origins of Spain are equally much like the buzz and flow of ancient migrations and that simply adds character to what is core. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_the_Iberian_Peninsula08/12/2016 #10 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI don't think that anyone should seek to be the La Liga of Social Media, maybe the Premier League of Social Media but definitely the future Chinese Sports machine of Social Media.
I get the value of proposition of beBee. I sought of get the value proposition of Anchor and kind of get the value prop of Stellar. Anchor is in the Soundcloud world and in a world where Audacity remains the audio software of choice, while Stellar are discovering visual storytelling, when there are much more cutting edge players in that space already who have made a play for agency business and bringing what they call "authentic stories" and these startups can be found in categories such as social commerce https://index.co/market/social-commerce/companies of which Photopulse from Barcelona has been mentioned here through @Luisana Cartay
So beBee is in different league, well beyond La Liga at this point - and while it's focus in the US, a lot of the future social media action will be happening with the burgeoning social media populations East of Suez in India and especially in China.08/12/2016 #9 Lisa 🐝 GallagherThanks for the tag @Henrik Ståhl, Nice breakdown above. I have full faith this platform will be all that's been promised and more. beBee has already exceeded my expectations. I've made more connections on beBee in half the time I made them on Linkedin and my connections that I've made are more personal. Thanks again!!08/12/2016 #8 Mohammed SultanGreat Stuff @ Henrik Stahl.We want users to think of beBee as the most exciting and most favorite platform to click for.beBee has to be seen as an extended product to both Facebook and Linked in ,not competing head on with them .We want users to think of beBee as a product that is producing businesses ,not a business that is producing products.The concept of beBee as an extension to both platforms is much more than simply thinking of specific contents or videos or information Provided ;professional and personal,but it encompasses the entire platform.It also implies a switch from being provider of contents or media services to think of the business as a continuous user-satisfying process.The development of the extended product concept also uses formal research insights and online suggestion to test premises and ideas continually.The end result is that the platform becomes a paradigm or a way of life and is habitually used by users every where.To separate oranges from apples,beBee platform should be seen by users as TWO SITES IN ONE,a professional site and an extension to linked in and a personal one and an extension to Facebook.08/12/2016 #6 Mamen 🐝 DelgadoWoww, thanks for tagging me @Henrik Ståhl! I have enjoyed very much your insights about those five startups, a pity about Talkshow...
Love Anchor by the way, whatever business around voice-power is my business! So I'll have a look.
And what to say about beBee, I felt in love in the first minute with this "engagement through passions" idea, and it has worked for me. I have made on beBee a really good and productive Networking growing my business and my options.
Thanks so much for all this information. Have a BEEutiful evening!!08/12/2016 #4 Deb 🐝 HelfrichThis is a great round-up, @Henrik Ståhl and I am going to applaud your astute point in the preface. There is a real potential (and need) for a true #contender to include female voices in the top echelons. Women, in general, to talk in stereotypes for a reason, are the glue in many social interactions and they consume and function on social media in different ways then men.
beBee certainly is gender neutral and has an equitable employee base, but keeping an eye on the gender differential as they begin appointing a few key strategic growth positions is both a long-term strategy and PR win on a lot of levels.08/12/2016 #1 Henrik Ståhl@Froilán Pérez @Sergio Martínez @Teresa Gezze @Chema M. del Hoyo @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher @Deb 🐝 Helfrich @Vera Díez Chacartegui @Cepee Tabibian Might be interesting for you. A follow-up on my interview series #TheContenders, with a summary and analysis of all the platforms - including beBee.
- 06/12/2016I had the pleasure of interviewing @Javier 🐝 beBee here on beBee (through Live Buzz, with the help of @Sergio Martínez). Now, after some delay because of vacations and sickness, my article has finally been published on Swedish news site digital.di.se – and of course I've translated it to English for you, fellow non-Swedish speaking bees. In the interview, Javier talks openheartedly about diversity, monetization strategy, competition, and he shares both visions and predictions with us. Enjoy!In Five Years, #beBee Will Be As Big As Facebookmedium.com CEO and co-founder Javier Cámara : “Our concept is...
Comments07/12/2016 #12 Henrik Ståhl#8 @Javier 🐝 beBee Haha, not really a warrior - just a journalist. But I do love to rummage about. ;) And it's just like @Froilán Pérez says: criticism is important, because it helps you grow. And the part about beBee not having a "killer feature": that's actually what impresses me most about the platform. I hope that you get a sense of that in the article, because things might get lost in translation. I am a humble bee with a gentle yet feisty sting. 🐝 @Sergio Martínez07/12/2016 #11 Froilán Pérezthanks for this piece, @Henrik Ståhl !
It is important that you point out mistakes, so we can correct them, and we are grateful for criticism!
We are working hard to improve and be a top contender, so it is fitting that you put us in the series #TheContenders :D.
Also, thank you for translating the article to English, it is very thoughful of you!07/12/2016 #8 Javier 🐝 beBee#6 @Jim Murray exactly. You are right. @Henrik Ståhl seems to be a warrior and loves to
rummage :-) ... beBee is not going to kill anybody. beBee is covering a different need. The professional world is not so open and connected as it should. beBee is working clear cut mission: " To make the professional world more open and connected" . And our mechanism is doing it in a free way - no barriers - and engaging professionals through passions :-)07/12/2016 #7 Jim MurrayThis is an interesting article because Javier defends beBee very well. But I have to say if you know beBee, what you realize is that it's not really a 'killer' anything. In this regard, Javier could be seen as underselling a bit.
Anybody who has bothered to genuinely invest a good sized hunk of their social media energy to it knows that beBee is actually breathing life into a social media world that has started going stale. As beBee grows, it can actually be an incredible social media experience for everyone. Life giver, as opposed to killer is more like it.06/12/2016 #3 Deb 🐝 HelfrichReally well-done, @Henrik Ståhl - what an eye-catching headline. I liked your article so much, I joined Medium to tweet it out, so that is saying a bunch.
It was innovative to incorporate the live buzz functionality as part of the interview process.
And I think you captured the secret sauce - not the tech, way too hard to differentiate there - it is the concept that one site can bring together people across the world in all their diversity.
- 03/12/2016One of the reasons I love Steller: the ability to create powerful and beautiful stories fast and with ease.VEM BLIR NÄSTA S-LEDARE? Di Weekend kartlägger det tysta maktspelet inom partiet: by Di Weekend on @stellerstoriessteller.co Everyone has a story to tell. Tell yours with photos, videos and text, all right from your...
- Producer30/11/2016Black Hat: 5 SEO Techniques That Make Google AngryWhat is Black Hat SEO all about? Search engine algorithms change faster every day. Not so long ago having a big deal of perfect keywords, nice pics and a bunch of backlinks got the trick partially done. But now things have changed!Today the major...
- 30/11/2016Curious about the resurgence of email newsletters? I know the single most important factor that initiated the reinassance! Oh, and I also threw in a bunch of other great comebacks in journalism - some of which you might not have even known actually ARE comebacks, instead of pure innovations.The Five Biggest Comebacks in Journalism – Thoughts On Journalismmedium.com Ever wondered why the email newsletter resurged? I believe I have the...
- 25/11/2016Good advice all around: "The only viable stance is that we all need to be better to one another."Open Source App Shows Devs Must Be Kinder - Dice Insightsinsights.dice.com A submission to the open source community, Dash, shows the highs and lows of legacy code. One thing is certain, though: we must be better to each...
Comments16/11/2016 #10 Lisa 🐝 GallagherGreat interview guys! @Sergio Martínez, it took me a sec to figure out you did the live interview and these are actually @Henrik Ståhl's questions. I was listening while reading my email (yes I multitask haha) and I heard buzzing, thought my PC was bombing out on me haha. Phone!
- 14/11/2016Sorry for spamming you! I had some troubles with my permalink. It consisted a "å" character (since my last name is Ståhl), which generated a 404-response when I created my Producer article. It's fixed now. :)Interview with Javier Cámara, CEO of beBeewww.bebee.com This is a live interview with beBee CEO and co-founder Javier Cámara , conducted on the beBee platform. The interview is part of Di Digital 's series...