- Producer26/04/2017City VP Manjit "Why I love beBee"Sometimes the greatest testimonies are hidden in the comments to a post. City VP Manjit made one of the best remarks about beBee that I have read in quite a while. It came about from a poem that Chris Guest posted in honor of Ali Anani. First the...
Comments28/04/2017 #33 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#30 There is another movie with the word WALK in it and this one I tried to get my kids to watch. They nearly watched it except after 15 minutes they went to sleep. I actually loved it, and you will know that I am talking about MINDWALK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uec1CX-6A3828/04/2017 #29 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#25 Dear @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman I fully agree with the special energy that Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee and Sara Jacobovici bring to beBee and here energy unfolds into energy, giving rise to new energy. I will be most happy at beBee when I see a billion people here and we merge as brothers and sisters - as energy that begets energy.28/04/2017 #28 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#26 Put it this way @Deb 🐝 Helfrich I am a man who watches tearjerker movies and I have had women tell me to "get a grip". Members of my family cannot believe that I was gripped by a Mandy Moore movie called "A Walk to Remember". Even one of my kids said "Really Dad! Really?" when I watched a re-run of it with a tissue box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obBUZEKuAgM28/04/2017 #26 Deb 🐝 HelfrichWell, I tried to do a 'roast' and find three unrelated source links that would expand the line of thought in this buzz, but alas, encountering the phrase "moving more towards fainthood" had me wondering when we are going to have an official beBee code word for mic drop when someone just slays a comment?
Four cheers for a man who has repainted the dewey decimal system into a colorful learning catalogue!28/04/2017 #25 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman@CityVP 🐝 Manjit is a great asset to beBee. His comments, as well as those from @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee and @Sara Jacobovici, are buzz worthy within themselves.
CityVP, our sainthood bee!
He and Sara and our beloved Ali
Their thoughts so wise and no surprise
Artfully penned from beginning to end
Undoubtedly, a powerful way to teach
Creativity in its truest form
Information extending its reach
Fractals in motion, ideas being born
What better way to be selective
Our special bees are most effective
By bringing learning in perspective
Bravo!27/04/2017 #24 Yogesh Sukal#23 everything is great and I like posting and getting interpretation of bees here and interactive discussions here. Thanks to bees.
But at this moment I cannot control smile on face to the @CityVP 🐝 Manjit View more#23 everything is great and I like posting and getting interpretation of bees here and interactive discussions here. Thanks to bees.
But at this moment I cannot control smile on face to the @CityVP 🐝 Manjit words moving towards faintwood :) Close27/04/2017 #19 Harvey LloydThanks @Gert Scholtz i had missed these exchanges and @City VP Manjit captured my interest in beBee. I am glad that i joined as my first foray into social media. LI was my first venture into any social online space. The business dogma of which i think i have heard most of, left me wanting. Finding @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee and @Sara Jacobovici along with @Ian Weinberg restored some credibility back to social media for me. Your post here is further evidence.
The essence of the poem by @Chris 🐝 Guest Certified Prof.Accountant (SA) and the posts of @City VP Manjit reclaim humanity.27/04/2017 #16 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#12 We greatly appreciate your efforts and advance movement to the interest of all bees @Javier 🐝 beBee. I honestly enjoy my time here and I feel I am getting stronger everyday. BeBee is the land of respectful and passionate learning. Today @Phil Friedman wrote a buzz (and a very important one) with different views on one of my buzzes. This is the interaction that I look for- to have respect for each other, but not on the expense of having our differences. This is what keeps BeBee lively and rich. It is not the tick "like" platform; more it is the place for different views. Keep moving on Javier and all your strong and dynamic beBee Team.
- Producer16/04/2017An Expert Outstanding in Their Field: Part OneImage Jordan McQueen Milos Djukic shared the article, The Death Of Expertise by Tom Nichols. I offer my comment "out of the comment box". “I am (or at least think I am) an expert.” Nichols may have been inserted what is in the...
Comments17/04/2017 #16 Sara Jacobovici#13 Well said @Phil Friedman. I believe you have covered the range of issues quite well and provided an important conclusion: "We are left with our intellectual instincts in these matters, which is why I believe it so important to build strength in those instincts by constantly engaging in intellectual discussion and exchange. We need to learn to distinguish those who present reasons and genuine support for their "expert" ideas and opinions from those who, in effect, say simply "this is the way it is; trust me, I know because I am an expert." "16/04/2017 #14 Phil Friedman#3 Ian, I am sure the research community will be unhappy with your mention of their dirty little secret, namely, that a staggering percentage of research funding is absolutely wasted not only through incompetence, but through outright dishonesty. As a former academic, I am aware of too many instances of research being "fudged" under the pressure of needing to justify the funding absorbed with no results, often due to a failure to design the research properly in the first place or failure to adequately manage it. Which is not to say that all research funding is wasted. Only that society needs to be more discerning about how and where it spends it money. Cheers!16/04/2017 #13 Phil FriedmanSara, I agree with you, in the main. And in small part with Nichols -- at least to the extent that, to my mind, whilst everyone has an equal right to hold and express an opinion, not every opinion expressed has equal merit.
As an individual one cannot "know" everything and, therefore, each of us relies in most cases on the considered opinions of other whom we respect. But that, of course, only moves the problem down the line one level or step. For the question becomes whom do we choose to respect.
One is tempted to rule out self-declared "experts" and decide instead to respect "generally recognized experts". However, even that doesn't work all the time, witness the pathetic performances in general of all the "economic experts" in the world who time and time again are shown to have the predictive skills of gnats. (Economic forecasting is light years away from being a reliable art, let alone a confirmed science.)
We are left with our intellectual instincts in these matters, which is why I believe it so important to build strength in those instincts by constantly engaging in intellectual discussion and exchange. We need to learn to distinguish those who present reasons and genuine support for their "expert" ideas and opinions from those who, in effect, say simply "this is the way it is; trust me, I know because I am an expert." Cheers!16/04/2017 #12 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI support expertise as I support excellence, but life is not a permanent act of excellence and expertise is most meaningful applied in the context that benefits from that expertise. Personal branding and social media can promote expertise via a very short-term period and we are expected to trust this expertise because it is now the orthodoxy. Nichols is reacting to the demand for solutions for fake news and superficial promotion.
If I am an expert in a field that is no longer relevant then I am an expert of a legacy rather than an expert our time and place demands. We have encountered these types of issues and these kind of issues are where mythologies arise around the expert.
At the same time new thinking abounds about the generalist, that does not negate the specialist. One example is discussions about "The Neo-Generalist" https://indalogenesis.com/the-neo-generalist/ - so when we are talking about what an expert is. What we are really saying is whether it is a specialist that is an Island of Excellence, defending their turf as old fashioned politics. When we become political about expertise we are defending a space as a soldier fighting a war against transforming forces, trying to justify a professional position in the face of disruptive change.
What makes Nichol's book a lightning rod is that science has come under fire in a way that is entirely political and in this sense the death of expertise is very real, because politics has tried to subvert science. How do we become aware of that which is truly insipid and truly fluff without viewing our own part in this?
When we don't see ourselves separate from this, then the response of those that are more blatant or brutal in their value judgement is to point the finger back at us. So what I extract from this discussion is what I can learn and not the nature of my own expertise online. Humility is needed and it is in short measure.16/04/2017 #10 Sara Jacobovici#8 Thank you for sharing your experience and point of view @Vincent Andrew. As cliche as this may sound, it's our attitude towards learning and achievement that makes the difference. I'll never forget the experience I had when as an adult I went to my parents' city of birth in Romania. At the cemetery I was shocked to see the gravestones include the title of the deceased; Professor, Engineer, Doctor, Lawyer...The title was the important piece of achievement. I know of individuals who, the more they learn, the more excited they are to keep learning and, more importantly, to share that learning. My impression of you from your comment is that you have the quality of being a listener and that you are open to hearing and learning from a variety of sources. The sign of a true expert.16/04/2017 #9 Harvey LloydThe word expert has evolved. In the past it seems expert was something someone earned through outcomes and was humbly accepted. Today an expert is a person that has collected professional/social relevance through promotion. I believe experts exist, they are just surrounded by many paper tigers.
Expert is also a condition or position that you wish to place in your customers mind through engagement. Creating the position in someones mind can only hold until there is a satisfactory outcome. Lacking the outcome envisioned, you can lose your expert status very quickly.
Can i be an expert within an outcome? When we ask this question we invoke the interdependence of all disciplines regardless of apprentice or expert standing. To be at the top of your field you must be standing on a lot of other people. Experts that recognize this interdependence within their field/outcome usually don't like being singled out with the term.16/04/2017 #8 Vincent AndrewWhen I received my PhD some time back I quickly realized that I was and still am an expert in a small area of my field. Now that makes me humble and increases my desire to find out what I still don't know or things that I don't understand that well. It's not an excuse to look down on anyone else. In fact the more I work with others, the more I listen to people's different understandings regardless of their academic background the better equipped I become in forming a better judgement. A great piece @Sara Jacobovici!16/04/2017 #7 Sara Jacobovici#6 Thank you @Lada 🏡 Prkic for your contribution. Expert/specialist.....as long as you are seen as someone who people can turn to within a specific context, you have proven when it comes to X that you're the one associated with that, then, as far as I'm concerned, you have succeeded in making yourself known.16/04/2017 #6 Lada 🏡 PrkicI don't consider myself an expert, but I'm good at my work and have knowledge and skills required in my field. However, some people do consider me a specialist in one area of my profession.
It always bothers me when people represent themselves as experts. Let others judge about that. Let our work and/or achievements define us as true experts in a specific field.
And one more thing, having an academic degree doesn't mean we are experts.
Thanks @@Sara Jacobovici for this post. :)16/04/2017 #4 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeThe death of time. The death of geography. Now, the death of expertise.
We stop growing when we die. Experts who are open to others and and @Sara Jacobovici put it eloquently "The best teachers are those who learn from their students and the best patient is one who is actively involved in his or her care plan by creating a support team in which everyone is on the same page. The best tool any expert can own is questions; asking them and being open to hearing them." As long as we are willing to learn we grow. The need to learn more without reluctance is the prime factor in my opinion and the experts who keep on learning without reluctance shall have a word always to say.
Thank you dear Sara for sharing your agreements and disagreements. THis way we may learn and this is the only option I hold without using the questioning tools. Otherwise; yes, we need to question more to learn more.16/04/2017 #3 Ian WeinbergIan Weinberg
Apr 16, 2017 8:20:18 AM
Excellent response @Sara Jacobovici When comprehensively reviewed, the 'experts' probably deliver the lowest returns on investment in many fields. Consider the 11billion Dollars spent on Alzheimer's disease research in the past 5 years, with no results. Repeated in physics, psychology and many other scientific areas of research.
- Producer13/04/2017Producing the best!Image credit: Paroxysm on Human Resource Management In his buzz, Why the Best Make the Worst?, Ali Anani challenges us with the following question and statement: “Why the best fail to produce the...
Comments13/04/2017 #7 CityVP 🐝 ManjitWe don't often do the simplest thing which is to deal with people as a human being, instead we have policy makers and then we force fit the human being through a prescribed prescription, and often my angst at human resource practices is at this most simplest level. Human as a resource then stops being human as a being and meaning flies away, leaving the mean, and thus our organizations actually contribute to a mean world, rather than a meaningful world.13/04/2017 #5 debasish majumdera tool being designed and developed out of the observation being made by one in an ambiance nature facilitate him to exist. for example, taking notice of the beck of a bird, an idea of forceps being triggered in ones faculty and accordingly a tool being come into effect, precisely with an intention to do the work comfortably and conveniently in accordance to ones requirement, unlike the dispensation of a bird. however, we cannot undermine ones skill how to gain expertise by utilizing the concern tool. though it could be an approximate idea, but surely an abstract one which usually accelerate the pace of civilization enormously and of course beyond any tentative assumption. in the same soil texture we can observe in nature mango and citrus fruits both produced simultaneously! so, i guess, it is pretty difficult from apparent presentation, what quality is hidden on one or in what condition, how one may emerge, giving a new dimension to the produce itself. however, intriguing insight indeed @Sara Jacobovici! enjoyed read. thank you very much for the share.13/04/2017 #2 Mohammed A. JawadAn excellent, thought-provoking post. Perhaps, we ought to realize that it's in the right knowledge that makes us sensible to cultivate chiseled culture, and this in turn make everything clear and easy to give best outcomes. Indeed, investing time in people with sound teachings and mentoring is the best initiative.13/04/2017 #1 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Sara Jacobovici- I shared this buzz on three hives not because I am only honored to have a mention in it, but also of its deep meanings. You completed the Golden Circle by writing "But if you define the criteria as, the individual can demonstrate that he or she is able to take initiative, then you are able to produce the best because you understand how and under what circumstances the individual can thrive". The why is answered promptly by the understanding how and then what to extract the best out of people. It is not only the simple rule; now, I also believe it is the simple rules of asking as well.
This is a buzz you can be proud of for long times.
- Producer04/04/2017Purpose; do we have a choice?Image credit: Boarding School Review In his article, Simple Rules Are the Anchors for Emergence, Ali Anani writes: While reading a quote by David O. McKay my mind started nagging me....
Comments05/04/2017 #9 Steve BradySara, thanks for this buzz. Just a couple of short comments, as I have to dash off in a minute. I have found that a person's purpose(s) do indeed involve choice, but in a broader, deeper, perhaps implicit sense, they can also be emergent. Put another way, sometimes our purpose finds us! Our lives are a whole, just as they are vastly interconnected and our purpose(s) can emerge, not just cognitively, but also intuitively and sensually.04/04/2017 #8 Sara Jacobovici#5 Thank you @Harvey Lloyd. I am always appreciative of hearing your thoughts and flattered that they may be provoked by our discussions. From my perspective, purpose is an inside out process; the meaning we have creates a belief that then (to use one of your words) motivates us to choose a purpose.
Thank you for making me think some more and for your generous words.04/04/2017 #5 Harvey LloydBeebe as usual gets me into rabbit holes of thought, i enjoy the effort, but the brain can sometimes overheat. Your post is no less thought provoking.
Where does purpose come from?
This is the question, once answered, from which we all spring into choice. Postmodernism would have us believe that the purpose is that of group think, it is because it is. Your question is one that we all must answer as we face the social world in which we live. Each social setting seems to be based on a different purpose, derived from a different place.
Do we conform to each? Do we seek to understand motive to purpose derived by the group? Do we express an alternative motive for purpose? Does the answer change the purpose?
These are the questions that keep philosophers up at night. The one thing we can be sure of, purpose that leads to choice, reveals the motive.
Thank you @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee for the tag. This a great continuation of the main dialogue you and @Sara Jacobovici started a few post ago.04/04/2017 #2 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeThis buzz is sheer beauty dear @Sara Jacobovici. I loved the reasoning and the way you kept the rhyme:
We sow our purpose with meaning and harvest our purpose with choice.
Then you ended by explaining more:
Experience ourselves>>> To forming a meaning
From forming a meaning>>> Purpose setting
Purpose setting>>> Developing beliefs and values
From developing beliefs and values>>> Giving intention to purpose (and this explains your above line "We sow our purpose with meaning and harvest our purpose with choice".
What I love about this thinking is that it shows the feedback effect as the output of one line is the input for the next one. No wonder we find that even tough we start with simple rules or equation, the output may show emerging behaviors.
This is an outstanding post dear Sara and it leaves ample room for further study. I am truly honored to be mentioned more than once in this post. I think you can develop this buzz into an e-Book.
- Producer02/04/2017"Simple Rules Are the Anchors for Emergence" ResponseBY Ali Anani VIP Muḩāfaz̧at `Ammān, Jordan Communication and Journalism Hello Ali AnaniI think your picture of the world growing on a health strong new branch is what would attracted me to read your buzz. That is if I didn't know about the...
Comments02/04/2017 #5 Tausif MundrawalaThe aforementioned topic on which Sir Ali Anani has penned an article took everyone to another level of intellectualism. People anxiously wait for his buzzes to get posted as soon as he finishes his final touches. I agree with you on all counts that after a hectic day we get a chance to break ourselves from everyday norm of our work and indulge in a truly interactive session with Sir Ali Anani's post.
Thanks for this wonderful buzz, @Louise Smith. I hope sir @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee is listening me.02/04/2017 #4 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeDear @Louise Smith- I am so touched by our buzz and I feel proud to be involved in the writing of this wisdom-packed buzz. Here my main take away from your buzz, and I quote you in all of them:
People get so obsessed with themselves - a legend in their own lunchbox!
So I try to encourage them to start o anchor themselves and to see a new way and believe they can follow it even when their lives seem jumbled like clothes in a washing machine.
I need to keep my strength to continue to help others.
I can't change all this but I can help to make a change for the people I see every day.
We both carry the same message and I find myself immersed in your wisdom.02/04/2017 #3 Louise Smith#2 Thank you Deb. Yes I try not to feel despair usu when I am tired and watch TV news. I came to my peace of acceptance reasonably late in my life. But I am glad I got there. It helps me to help others on their journey. Yes I agree the client has to be ready and that takes a varying a amount of time for each person. Awareness shift is a wonderful thing to see in people.
Thank you for your comment. I am sure you will keep up your Good work too. Louise02/04/2017 #2 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBeeDear @Louise Smith I sense your despair and I sense a peace of acceptance that you are doing what you can. I find it usually takes some event happening that my clients come to me and say "I am ready to do something different. I want to be different. I sense there is something else to life." There has to be an opening. The opening can be anything. I also find if I help my clients sense what it is for themselves that is blocked & sense where there is an opening there is a big shift in awareness, groundedness, sense sight and insight. Keep up your Good work.02/04/2017 #1 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeI shall comment again,. However; I immensely enjoyed reading your buzz dear @Louise Smith. I am deeply satisfied that your buzz on my buzz is of such high and touching quality. Will be back. Meanwhile, I shared this buzz on three hives. Excellent buzz to read.
- Producer30/03/2017Words of wisdom - Out of the comment boxWords of wisdom by City VP Manjit and David B Grinberg need to be absorbed to look beyond the boundary of fear of Life and this truth.One day at a time? PC - Kurt Coyne Location - Melbourne SunriseWhen I try to not be overwhelmed by the things that...
Comments02/04/2017 #23 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#18 How about this for a biological metaphor. Only publishing is like the digestive tract - a one way ride. But commenting is like the nervous system - afferent and efferent pathways exist when things are flowing.
It is important to have dense thingies to go on ad nauseum about, though, let's not get it twisted.02/04/2017 #18 Gerald Hecht#12 @Deb 🐝 Helfrich I still remember the first time (prolly 10 times) I read posts of yours about things like: "Using Publisher to Contribute Blog Posts is Only Part of the Process"...I didn't bother to understand (naturally)...and just worked myself into a frenzy trying to publish dense post after dense post...I am still sorry
--the comments, the engagement around posts (at least following it even if you don't have time to contribute?) is where the REAL STUFF...THE NUTRITIONAL VALUE is.
In other words, thank you for your comment...I couldn't agree more.; and thank you again @🐝 Fatima G. Williams for the post!01/04/2017 #16 🐝 Fatima G. Williams#13 Very true @Hervé Sabattier Our boundaries are fixed to ourselves by our fears, but it's ourselves most of the time who create our fears - We need to get past the barrier of building our own fears we need to be break the virtual walls we've built We need to move on. Thank you.01/04/2017 #13 Hervé SabattierThe way I try to live is free. Sometimes, it's one day at a time, one step at a time, sometimes it's in the past, the present and the future altogether and in several planets at the same time. It depends on where I feel free and it depends on where my love lies. Our boundaries are fixed to ourselves by our fears, but it's ourselves who create our fears. We fear not to be secure in a box, a box to protect us from open space and from unlimited time. A box that protects us from freedom. We fear to be free. We fear to love.
- Producer30/03/2017When there isn't enough space in the comment box.....Gert 🐝 Scholtz wrote the post, The Write Stuff, about the writers on beBee. Impressive to say the least. I was also impressed with how many of the writers I was familiar with and also a few writers that Gert inspired me to now look out for like Paul...
Comments31/03/2017 #27 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.31/03/2017 #26 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.sweet of you, Ms Bee Sara Jacobovici!!! Huge honey hugs!!!31/03/2017 #25 Gert Scholtz#15 @Paul Walters I will definitely be around Paul and it would be great to meet up! As an ex South African you are most welcome to join the braai @Ian Weinberg and I will be having with @Sara Jacobovici for who we will we will prepare a special “boere veggie patty”.31/03/2017 #23 Savvy RajGreat buzz Sara . Sincere appreciation is inspiring and empowering .To all these writers above, a big thank you for the wonderful learnings and the unique insights you share through your writings . And so agree with you@Sara Jacobovici View moreGreat buzz Sara . Sincere appreciation is inspiring and empowering .To all these writers above, a big thank you for the wonderful learnings and the unique insights you share through your writings . And so agree with you@Sara Jacobovici about @Gert Scholtz . Close31/03/2017 #21 Lisa 🐝 GallagherThanks for the mention @Sara Jacobovici, so kind of you! It never dawned on me until I read your description of Gert but that is just how I picture him! It's great when we meet others on here and we think, wow- if I were ever to visit here or there I would feel at ease having 'so and so' as my guide for the day, or just hanging out with the person. Gert comes to mind, @Ken Boddie @Dean Owen (although he might take me on a crazy drive), @David B. Grinberg @🐝 Fatima G. Williams Ali Anani and a few others come to mind as well, yourself included Sara! Oh and I know @Susan 🐝 Rooks and I would have fun together too. So many wonderful people on beBee and Javier rocks too! I think I may have tagged too many.31/03/2017 #20 David B. GrinbergThanks for this nice buzz @Sara Jacobovici. I would also like to commend @Gert Scholtz and YOU on your excellent writing for Producer and gracious recognition and sharing of buzz by other bees. I'm just pleased to be included in the company of so many esteemed and talented writers/bloggers whom I regularly read, learn from, and greatly admire -- as well as the many others out there who weren't mentioned (too many to count and name). Keep buzzing everyone!
- Producer24/03/2017I Choose, Therefore I am.Image credit: WIRED There is no such thing as having no choice. Choice is a place in which to be.In a comment in his buzz, The Wave-Based Strategies, Ali Anani wrote, “There is choice even in...
Comments28/03/2017 #45 Sara Jacobovici#44 Thank you for contributing to the discussion @Hervé Sabattier. What I find very powerful about the Viktor Frankl quote is that, for me, it says that we always have a choice and that is in how we respond to anything. Our circumstances or environment may influence or restrict our freedom and our choices, but because we are left with the ultimate choice of how we respond, that means we are always free. So, in this way, making no choice is still a choice we freely can make.25/03/2017 #42 John RylanceThank you Sara, your reply has made me reconsider my original comment. As someone who doesn't believe in absolutes it would be fairer to say if offering choices I would only offer ones I was happy with, if I am offered choices I am not comfortable with I either decline or negotiate. As to illusion I take your point and agree with your comments on it. However something which comes to mind is the illusionist/magician, who make people believe they have made a choice. The choices we make are often knowingly or unknowingly influenced by others. #3425/03/2017 #40 Sara Jacobovici#30 #31 Thank you, thank you, @Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.25/03/2017 #39 Sara Jacobovici#28 Double synchronicity @CityVP 🐝 Manjit: 1- I just finished responding to @Laura Mikolaitis's comment by saying, "...we need the power of choice to help us identify new inroads...", great line, leaves me with much to think about. So definitely agree, " Power within the choice is the choice." 2 - In my writing on choice, on my rough draft, I cut and pasted the following from Deuteronomy Chapter 30:19, " This day, I call upon the heaven and the earth as witnesses [that I have warned] you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. You shall choose life, so that you and your offspring will live." Agreed again, "Choose life".25/03/2017 #34 Sara Jacobovici#20 Thank you @John Rylance for your comment. I'd like to respond to two points I read in it. One, "Never offer someone a choice you can't live with." Has me thinking....it's a sensitive point. It makes me think that if the individual makes a choice you can't live with then that will definitely influence the future of the relationship. Two, I can so relate to the frustration of the choices with strings or limited choices, but I am not sure I agree with choice as an illusion because I can still choose whether to get the car or not, or go to another dealer, or wait for an alternative. Not happy about the circumstances, but the choice is very real and still mine.25/03/2017 #31 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.wow25/03/2017 #30 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.soul inspiring!
- Producer19/03/2017Continuing to try to make sense...Image credit: Pinterest Does it make sense that humans are formed and developed within a sensory environment? Does it make sense that we form meaning...
Comments19/03/2017 #22 Pascal Derrien#21 for what it is worth and based on absolutely nothing I think that in absolute terms we are probably very similar in the way we handle our emotions than lets say 500 , 1000 or 3 000 years ago, maybe one learn during his life no matter when he was born the same way than his ancestors, there seem to be a beginning , an apprenticeship and the sum of this = accumulated wisdom (now thats probably 2cent rubbish reflection)19/03/2017 #20 Sara Jacobovici#9 Thanks for a very thoughtful and thought provoking comment @Harvey Lloyd. Looking forward to rereading it. Please see the following link. I shared your comment on my stand alone comment series. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/a-stand-alone-comment-6691519/03/2017 #18 Sara Jacobovici#15 Just finished reading and commenting @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. A must read for everyone! https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/pockets-of-creative-thoughts#c319/03/2017 #17 🐝 Fatima G. WilliamsThe topic on senses and our sensory experiences being directly related to our body , emotions and our actions is enriching and intriguing. This pushes me to reason without doubt our sensory emotions and its output/experiences. I'm amazed by the wonder of our being and there is so much to learn from it. When we engage our senses to learn, act or think the output is more balanced and even more enriching I believe. Like a memory game we play with objects displayed on a screen.The brain, eyes and the emotion -excitement to get them right!
I can't wait to see the things I do outside of our physical or sensory limitations.
Thank you @Sara Jacobovici and @Ali Anani for pushing our senses.19/03/2017 #14 Sara Jacobovici#8 @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, I always await to see where you will go with any idea I present and am excited to hear about your upcoming work. No doubt that senses and emotions interact and do not work in isolation. What is always fascinating is the how; and so I am impatient to read your perspective.19/03/2017 #9 Harvey LloydPurpose, motive, agenda and why are all words that engage our senses. If we take these words away then what we sense becomes merely information. Much like an encyclopedia setting on a a shelf. The value of sensory information is directly correlated with the purpose. Whether the purpose is learning, engaging or just plain ole fun the senses constantly compare the environment to the purpose.
When we look at nature we see that every process has a purpose. The amazing aspect of nature is where we find a species process that connects to another and the chain of processes that make up our Eco-System.
We can look at our senses in a vacuum and discuss the process, but our narrative, past, present or future, is a collection of senses input into a purpose. Most important is the human need to compare purpose with each others narrative. If we compare purpose then we can make sense of our connections and differences. If we only compare sensory data then we can find ourselves at odds with others.
on a side note....The scary part for me with AI is this very fact, purpose. Can a few subroutines of code align in such a way that purpose can be altered from the original? The assumption is that the new or altered purpose would build upon some universal belief of goodwill. This is an assumption, without analogue senses, AI will mathematically determine outcomes, or purpose.
Thank you for this thought provoking dialogue.19/03/2017 #8 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeDear @Sara Jacobovici- your beautiful mind is just powerful. I am deeply moved by your buzz as much as by the synchronicity between us that is proving to be a driving force for us. You wrote "From my perspective, what leads a group to follow a charismatic teacher is not so much their senses, but their emotions. Those who question the teacher, engage their senses in order to learn". I find myself asking now aren't senses and emotions related? And if yes, to what degree? The synchronicity is that I have just posted a buzz on "Pockets of Creative Thoughts". In the buzz I refer to frozen tears (teas ice) from dead bodies. The amazing findings in recent studies that our tears reflect our emotions. This is a startling finding. So, my response is that senses-emotions interactions are related and may not be working in isolation.
I thank you so much for my mention in your buzz. I find your writing of deep value. I have other points, but will respond to one point at a time.
- Producer03/03/2017A stand alone comment.CityVP 🐝 Manjit writes a comment on Ali Anani's buzz, The New Mirrors of Social Media, that deserves to be posted on its own.Social media does what digital extension does, it warps our relationship with others, unless we remain vigilant of the...
Comments04/03/2017 #21 Donald 🐝 GrandyInteresting post @Sara Jacobovici "If the education system prepares us for work, the entertainment system alleviates us, to create a rest-bite from work"
I'm not convinced that the education system is preparing students for work, therefore, the distraction. If you have ADD or ADHD the rest-bite from work is "at work". Can we teach "the artist who see's a different facet of human existence" to exist without themselves being labeled.04/03/2017 #20 Phil Friedman#19 Perhaps, Sara, I did not make myself clear. There are more than one theory of mind. Moreover, theories are reflective at what are considered a transcendental level. The "recognition" you describe might, but just might be considered one possible theory of mind, although I would personally classify it as an assertion concerning the role of perception in discerning the thoughts of others. In my lexicon, theories are much more than a single statement. Wikipedia is a bit wanting here, and I prefer the Encyclopedia of Philosophy: "Theory of Mind is the branch of cognitive science that investigates how we ascribe mental states to other persons and how we use the states to explain and predict the actions of those other persons. More accurately, it is the branch that investigates mindreading or mentalizing or mentalistic abilities.". Cheers!04/03/2017 #19 Sara Jacobovici#18 I hope you gentlemen don't mind if I but in here, @Phil Friedman and @CityVP 🐝 Manjit...."but" I will. From my understanding, theory of mind relates to our ability to hold the reality that not everyone thinks the way we do. In this way, our ability to "make sense" or read the thoughts of others through nonverbal cues, such as facial expressions, behaviours or actions, is crucial.03/03/2017 #18 Phil FriedmanManjit, in the main, I concur with what you are saying. But I should like to suggest that perhaps you make what is called a "type error" when you say that, "All people possess what is called theory of mind, our ability to interpret the thoughts of others through facial expressions or behaviours or actions ..."
A "theory of mind" is an intellectual construct at a transcendental level above our actions (including mental actions) when we interpret the thoughts of others on whatever basis. That is, a Theory of Mind is something of a different type than an employed method. The former is reflective, while the latter is an action.
For example, I can train to hit a pitched baseball, without having a governing theory of motion or perception. And I suggest it is important to avoid confusing the two planes. IMO and with all due respect. Cheers!03/03/2017 #16 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#15 Dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit- I have tons of respect for you and your "thinking" comments. Thinking because you are a thinker. You are an integral part of my thinking because of your thoughtful and thinking comments. By the way the thinker @Sara Jacobovici has just published a great buzz in response to my buzz and our exchange of comments. It is a must read.
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/what-does-it-mean-to-adapt03/03/2017 #15 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThank you Sara I view a part of this buzz to be the regard we have for each other and I honour that most. The word comment comes from the practice of commentator. Commentators were people invited to newspapers to provide their opinions. Commentary in newspapers is in reality the original user-generated content. The commentator lived in the mindset of the broadcast world where attention was scarce.
Today attention is abundant, indeed it is saturated beyond belief, and instead of us being more cognoscente about the way we work and how we are a part of a transformation in the way of work - we continue to find ways of achieving attention, so thinking quickly become content and in the content we remain commentators rather than thinkers. The true value in this buzz is the exchange between you and @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee - the thinking relationship between both of you is extraordinary. So when Javier in his comment #8 calls this relationship "a powerful energy", it is exactly that.
This powerful energy is not a broadcast but a relationship that I am privileged to witness. The word comment no longer does justice to people who think. We personally should be given the option to name this section of the buzz, through a dropdown box that has different names i.e. a choice of comments, thinkers, discussion, debate, reflection etc - so when Juan says thanks in comment #14 - to me that is what I am thankful for - that what happens under the buzz is not business as usual, they are not comments - but a person who writes the buzz should choose what kind of response they hope for. My choice is "Thinkers".03/03/2017 #12 Sara Jacobovici#10 So much so @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, that I have already started writing the buzz based on this incredible energy that you sparked with your buzz! You write: "Now, the idea of a new buzz emerges "The fractal of Synchronicity" and the unintended rules that leads to its emergence." WOW! Indeed! It's not a coincidence that @Javier 🐝 beBee used the words "powerful energy" in his comment.03/03/2017 #10 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#7 So, I feel the driver to share my response to your comment here as well dear @Sara Jacobovici:
Absolutely correct you are dear @Sara Jacobovici. You wrote a lot about meaning and now you have attached meaning to adaptation (or vice versa) and a new meaning for meaning just emerged. I know what your next buzz shall be about, and if not then I have lost synchronicity with you. Goodness no.
A buzz that lead to a comment that led to sharing a comment as a buzz which again drew comments and new buzzes. The fractal of synchronicity is emerging. Now, the idea of a new buzz emerges "The fractal of Synchronicity" and the unintended rules that leads to its emergence. WOW! I feel my mind blowing with excitement.03/03/2017 #7 Sara Jacobovici#5 You ask important questions @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I think our synchronicity is having us dialogue across buzzes. As you were writing this one, I was writing on your buzz, what I think is appropriate to repeat here: You wrote: "one line of your comment (Sara) says a lot "I think we are faced with the challenge of learning a new language in our new environment". You invoke a great idea: adaptation requires new languages with new ideas. This is a powerful observation" I wrote: "Your highlighting and expansion of the line, has inspired me (as always Dr. Ali) to think; since language is our way of communicating meaning, than adaptation is linked with meaning. Adaptation can only be successful when we understand what it is we are adapting to." This is my response to your questions. I think beBee is a new environment in which we have been able to meet and find a common meaning in our dialogue, (professional and personal) and within these boundaries develop an understanding and mutual respect. I am moved by you reminding me that the world can look at us as an example for good. And to return to your business wisdom and how our human traits can be used successfully in business, your last line is a great integrator: "When we gain the hearts and minds of people we don't have to sell them- they are naturally pulled to you."03/03/2017 #6 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#4 Part/ 2
I didn't put the image of dears @Javier 🐝 beBee or @Juan Imaz because I flatter them. I did it because these two gentlemen are exemplary of dedicated people to what they do passionately. It is their affinity that captured my heart. I wrote the buzz and I could have easily refrained from their mentioning or using their photos as the background image. I did it because they treat people well and they listen. They respond to comments, suggestions, complaints and take action. Because they are who they are they captured our readiness to spread beBee. We are not paid to do it and still we do it voluntarily. Liked you shared the comment of C@CityVP 🐝 Manjit in a buzz because you see value for people to benefit from this comment. Yes, we need to understand people because we shall then be able to be real humans.03/03/2017 #5 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#4 It is again synchronicity of minds that made me think you would pause at this line of response to the eloquent comment of dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit my dear @Sara Jacobovici.
I wish to add two points here. First, isn't it our better knowledge and awareness of each other that laid down the foundation of how you Sara and I treat each other? Isn't this understanding greater than the reservations (the least to say) that would stop usr from even taking to each other? You know what I mean. It is this understanding that you and I show the world that through understanding we may live together in peace.
You didn't intentionally sell your respect to me. You gained it. When we gain the hearts and minds of people we don't have to sell them- they are naturally pulled to you.03/03/2017 #4 Sara Jacobovici#2 I am proud to say that I am beginning to take our synchronicity as a given, @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. Your response, "Using knowledge to sell more for people isn't the same as knowing people better to deal with them better", is brilliant! Looking forward to your future buzzes Dr. Ali.03/03/2017 #2 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#1
Synchronicity again dear @Sara Jacobovici- as soon as I have responded to the great comment of @CityVP 🐝 Manjit I noticed your sharing of his comment. I ended my response to Manjut by saying "Using knowledge to sell more for people isn't the same as knowing people better to deal with them better. However; the profoundness of your comment leaves me brewing with more ideas to share soon".
- Producer28/02/2017Cross-Pollination continued....Credit image: 123RF.com I write a buzz inspired by Ali Anani’s buzz and Ian Weinberg’s buzz. Please read Deb🐝 Lange's comment on that buzz and my reply. I totally agree with you, to ask the...
Comments28/02/2017 #1 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeTo be mentioned in this buzz is honorable to me dear @Sara Jacobovici. Your buzz, the comments and buzzes of dears @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee and @Ian Weinberg are great examples of ideas pollination. "Our words arose from our sensory and lived experience - we have got further and further detached from them". THis deep statement from Deb is worthy a long pause because it is very true. I shared the buzz with maximum pride.
- Producer23/02/2017Adapting to "time and pace".An open letter to the bees on beBee.I have been having an amazing experience learning, growing and connecting! The quality of writing and sharing, the exchanges of comments and replies, has risen tremendously. I am facing a challenge; how do I keep...
Comments23/02/2017 #10 Deb 🐝 Helfrich@Sara Jacobovici - A tremendous idea. To pull out some section of a commenter's life and provide it as its own vignette.
A couple times I have thought it might be an interesting exercise to pull together the efforts of one of my commenting days.
I did so in my early days on LI last year when I had 33 connections and not a clue what was in store for me, so I tracked my participation to try to gauge how to devise a useful strategy.23/02/2017 #9 Deb 🐝 HelfrichThe ebb & flow of each bees attention is the bounty of the nectar of a million flowers on each new day. We have to unlock ourselves from the prison of being everywhere and appreciate the seasons and patterns and preferences and synchronicities and trust that what unfolds each day is perfect in its utter uncontrollability.
And when that fails, there is always the appropriate use of mentioning & link dropping. Used wisely, these tools are additive, but when we rely on them, these talismen of attention simply become noise.
I find myself hitting a juncture of wanting to step back a little from mentioning. I find my notifications a little erratic and so I trust that what surfaces on each day is all the right raw material to flow towards the delight of a day well-read.
Pascal's unearthings of childhood & Majit's erudite analyses are the exact two perfect examples of a bounty I could only keep up with if I lived in a hermitage with strict ascetic rules. As I think past their output to all the bees, I'd be clamoring for an indeterminate amount of consecutive life sentences of reader's delight.23/02/2017 #8 CityVP 🐝 ManjitWhen we use the highways of our own imagination that is what I mean by a "learning journey", when we use the mainstream digital expressways, that is what I call a traffic congestion. To fly, to flow to find, all this is the enrichment from abundance where spiritually we may appear omnipresent but practically we engage where our compass of curiosity is taking us to and where time curates. The blessing is where we find ourselves bathed in fellowship. Personal branding is an example of a digital expressway, but a learning journey flies out to the universe while I have not even put one foot outside my bed. There is no better description of freedom than this, the only kind of freedom that we own and that is within us - otherwise freedom is in relationship to the branded prison we economically and socially operate from - and if our home is no different to that, then even louder our cry for freedom.23/02/2017 #5 Sara Jacobovici#1 Thank you @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I am on my way to read your latest https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/drowning-in-the-river-of-time.23/02/2017 #1 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Sara Jacobovici- we all have the same issue as none of us is able to read all buzzes. But I admit none of yours unless they escape my noticing them. Why? Because I learn from you. This buzz is a great "escape" or apology to all distinguished writers whom we may not be able to read all their gems.
Great buzz to read by all bees. Sharing
- Producer16/02/2017From one bee to another...CityVP 🐝 Manjit found the way, in his own unique style to communicate his impression of Joyce Bowen. I share this with our readers. Dear Sara [ @Sara Jacobovici ] Joyce has been a breath of fresh air since her arrival because she is not an actor...
Comments21/02/2017 #2 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeThis quote describes also both of you dears @Sara Jacobovici and @CityVP 🐝 Manjit "QUOTE: "Satyagraha means the exercise of the purest soul-force against all injustice, oppression and exploitation. Suffering and trust are attributes of soul force."
- Producer15/02/2017Y KNOW Y KNOW (FOR THE SAKE OF CONVENIENCE) - by Devesh BhattAny word in any language is vulnerable to countless interpretations. Therefore words can or cannot mean anything. I just have to develop a context. This context may or may not be completely different from general usage. A context can...
Comments29/03/2017 #15 Gerald Hecht@Devesh 🐝 Bhatt thank you for tagging me on this one --a "meta algorithm" ; the meta parameters of which (already of critical import) become greatly amplified at this level...this one will need (for my limited siddis [sic]) require a long incubation/fermentation/synthesis interval....yes indeed...thank you for alerting me to this one.18/02/2017 #6 AnonymousContext is determined by a lot of things. In writing the language written, and whether it is the first language of the author has a great deal of influence.
Z, or zee rhymes with bee for an English speaking American, but Z or zed, does not for many non-American English speakers. A French speaker pronounces Y as ee grec. This does not rhyme with why, nor does it rhyme with I which they would pronounce as ee. So any context is sadly limited when it is only lingually expressed.15/02/2017 #3 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeBeautifully composed dear @Jeet Sarkar. You an issue that is of great relevance. In Arabic a word is written in Arabic alphabit may read nashtum or nashtam. Nashutum means to curse. Nashtum means to smell. It is only when we add a word like flowers that we read it to smell. Amazingly, even some people still read it as curse the flowers. I enjoyed and shared your lovely buzz.
- Producer14/02/2017It's all about perspective!Devesh Bhatt wrote the buzz, THE 4 MYTHS ABOUT INNOVATIVE THINKING, and discussed the various perspectives involved with the image of the box. He provided the following illustration.Image credit: Devesh Bhatt I couldn't fit my response into...
Comments15/02/2017 #5 Devesh 🐝 Bhatt#4 Pardon me for i had to read this post again and again and imagine it in the context of the box, inflexibility of the perspective i guess, looking only at the floor, when infact i must look at each wall and the assumption roof which must progress from a hypothesis to something functional.
Perspective is all encompassing whole around the box and so is every other wall/top and the word it represents. The segregation was made to equate perspective with the static elements and the walls with the variable growing elements of perspective which may change to yield a bigger space or an exit.
The box is akin to the mental conditioning where numbers on the paper are treated as absolute in a dynamic world which requires dynamic decisions.
Somehow the satire on barriers holds within it the solution and i missed out on the assumption that needs attention and looked at the perspective floor , my box of comfort in this case as long as i look at the floor and nothing else.
Furthermore, the inflexibility has resulted from repetitions of these mistakes as informed decisions, therefore it identifies the problem but can very much be a problem in itself if it remains rigid.
i am not sure if i got the message through, but this needs to be pondered upon. Thanks a lot again.
As always, been quite behind on your responses.14/02/2017 #1 Devesh 🐝 Bhatt"We are optically neurologically, wired to "see" things from different perspectives. "
"you see what you need to see in front of you, such as your floor=perspective, while at other times you may need to focus on the wall=knowledge side. "
But then this question emerges. What about the action that enriches perspective and yields progress?
The basis of the question again is my perspective.
My box is mythical in the sense that i have admitted a certain context and given no explanation for an important element in the progression, the action. Your articles generally have the utility or the action portion well explained for replication.
Howsoever do i flip the box i stand on my perspective, the starting point from which i look at everything else. The perspective is based on purpose , Knowledge , experience and/or ability but for the perspective to grow, any one of them has to trigger additional inputs.
Here another question emerges. Can a box serve as a better model for operational decisions or it is best to make it linear?
- Producer12/02/2017Books, Glorious Books!In his buzz, Like Reading a Book, Gert Scholtz shares a few of his picks. I can relate to Gert's wonderfully written, sensory experience of books and I thought I would share a few of my picks. It wasn't easy making these choices and some books which...
Comments12/02/2017 #9 Deb 🐝 Helfrich@Sara Jacobovici, Fantastic idea! I have always been fond of creating little vignettes of books around my living space since I was very young and got upgraded to an adult library card - more than 5 books at a time - way before my age afforded me that luxury.
I feel, just like the way we today find themes in very disparate buzzes and how the randomness reveals hidden commonalities, that many books I have read became fuller due to the juxtaposition of the other books I was reading concurrently.12/02/2017 #7 Gert Scholtz@Sara Jacobovici @Deb 🐝 Helfrich In Sack's own words and writing - here it is: http://www.sciencefriday.com/articles/the-bodybuilder-oliver-sacks-days-on-muscle-beach/12/02/2017 #6 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#1 @Gert Scholtz, if you'd given us a multiple choice question of what Oliver Sacks didn't do in his life, I would have selected weightlifting champion. Fantastic little fact that I find very interesting to contemplate.
I'd nominate "The MInd's Eye" as my favorite Sacks book. I am a little fascinated with how much vision is wired throughout our brains and how as a species, it is our default primary sense.12/02/2017 #4 Sara Jacobovici#1 Thanks for the trivia @Gert Scholtz. I have read almost everything written by Oliver Sacks. I chose The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat because it was the first book I read by him. Because I worked as a Music Therapist and because of his connection with Music Therapy, I was fortunate enough to meet him on a couple of occasions.
- Producer05/02/2017The impact of choosing, or not, responsibly.Photograph: Zak Noyle - A surfer riding through debris. “If we long for our planet to be important, there is something we can do about it. We make our world significant by the courage of...
Comments22/02/2017 #20 Lisa 🐝 GallagherVery thought provoking @Sara Jacobovici. Humans have the capacity to destroy/repair. I can only hope that more humans will come to the conclusion that repairing is vital. Because I'm very immersed in US politics it makes me think of the Muslim ban for one- The damage began and humans joined together en masse to protest those who mattered and cared did what was right on behalf of humans. There will be many obstacles and we can choose to be bystanders or proactive. I choose to be proactive.21/02/2017 #16 Cyndi wilkins"The core idea is that nature has already solved many of the problems we are grappling with. Animals, plants, and microbes are the consummate engineers...What surrounds us is the secret to survival."
Absolutely @Sara Jacobovici View more"The core idea is that nature has already solved many of the problems we are grappling with. Animals, plants, and microbes are the consummate engineers...What surrounds us is the secret to survival."
Absolutely @Sara Jacobovici...It's like global Vegas folks...and the house always wins;-) Close07/02/2017 #11 Deb 🐝 HelfrichFantastically put together thoughts, @Sara Jacobovici. I think there are definitely trace of the adolescent boundary-pushing in many of the structures we have built in the corporate world. I feel like we need to make a simple, easy to grasp change - although I certainly acknowledge the will & the detailed steps to change in this way may be very hard.
Right now, we have legally built corporations to put fiduciary responsibility to the holders of little pieces of now digitized paper before any concerns of employees, customers, communities, or the planet at large. Then companies wanted a way to judge how effectively they played this game by implementing quarterly earnings results. Now we have a situation where companies are incentivized to make very short term decisions and absolutely ignore longer-term consequences or impacts on any dimension besides ever increasing revenue.
If corporations were mandated that continued operation required them to accept the new terms and conditions that humanity was rolling out or cease business and we simply added a first clause of do no harm. We would enable employees to have a leg to stand on in also looking for the broader and wider consequences to making everything so cheap that we throw most things away and buy new. The stockholders are the only winners in this scenario.
Employees are people too. If their job allowed them to be a global citizen, we wouldn't need immense regulatory bodies, the right level of due diligence would arise quite naturally for companies who wanted to adjust to the new terms and conditions that humanity began enforcing with its purchasing power.06/02/2017 #8 Sara Jacobovici#5 Thank you @Harvey Lloyd for "mapping" out the process. What makes it interestingly complicated is that as simple and predictable as we can be, we do have options and so we can follow different paths or take different turns from the paths we are on. Thank you for your contribution. Always good to hear your perspective.06/02/2017 #6 Mohammed SultanThank you @ Sara jacobovici for sharing a great post.Your post shows an extra dimension of your personal brand,as well as, that of dear@Ali Anani PhD.
The philosophical part of your personal brand which reflects your integrated thoughts,trust,courage and respect can safely held you as a pattern and role model.Your courage showed your willingness to continue asking vital questions and make you stand up for Dr.Ali's opinions to reach sound and objective evaluation of alternative courses that go beyond logic and traditional analytics.Your personal charisma always show what others need to see in you;how well you convey a sense of mission.The exciting moments in which you both have shown in your previous articles made it easy for us to see two thinkers in one.06/02/2017 #5 Harvey LloydI believe i would replace the thoughts surrounding survival and self preservation with self-perpetuation (Individual and generational). The challenge lies in the self wanting to be successful. Survival and self preservation belong to a class of descriptors that evoke food, clothing, shelter and fight/flight concerns. Our issues tend to surround first world problems of excess.
Path A allows me to get there faster where path B allows me to get there in a sustainable way.
Path B would appear to be the obvious choice as it would allow for you/others and most importantly the infrastructure to sustain itself. The incongruence comes when we watch media, and others who choose A. We compare progress and we see that we are really taking the long road in comparison.
We can see our own efforts as success and live out our lives, we can become apathetic and join the group of A's or we can get angry and fight the A's. All valid choices and each has its own consequences in our mind.
Clearly the path of success has become self defeating within the long view. Future generations will be left with something to clean up if we can't find the sustainable success story.06/02/2017 #4 Sara Jacobovici#3 You've made an interesting distinction between self-preservation and survival @Pascal Derrien. We survive and we attempt to preserve that state. The quality of that state is what makes us an interesting species. You also make an interesting modification to repeated patterns; you say that each time we repeat, we push the boundaries a bit further, in this way there is an extension or expansion of the pattern or process. Again, aren't we an interesting bunch? Not only do we not continue with the repair with the potential to heal, we test the limits of the repair until, as you say, we've crossed the line and then there's no turning back. I think it's a reflection of some of us wanting to "beat" the odds and survive in spite of our self-destructive versus self-preserving nature.
- 23/09/2016Words and meaning of words IN ACTION. An exchange of the use of a word leading to learning a new meaning and expanding on that meaning with finding the words of others
@🐝 Fatima G. Williams writes on her share: "A fantabulous panegyric by CityVP Manjit on Sarah and her words/work."
@CityVP 🐝 Manjit replies: "Thank you Fatima for introducing me to the word "panegyric". This article about John Dryden http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft4g5006bf&chunk.id=d0e368 has taught me more about this word. Where it states "encomium" meaning praise, but why panegyric means more than that. I then discovered that this is great speech in a public address, which led me to learn about the Agora of Athens - the first place where democracy began to flourish in Ancient Greece. I congratulate you Fatima for a well chosen word and in that word "panegyric", you have encapsulated an appreciation and admiration of Sara, a very well chosen word indeed."
This example "speaks for itself".
- Producer26/01/2017A chronology of admiration.One of the reasons it pays to stay active on social media, and in this case beBee, is the potential to discover and connect with exceptional people like Deb 🐝 Helfrich. My admiration for Deb has grown exponentially. Her last buzz, Deja écrit –...
Comments27/01/2017 #19 Sara Jacobovici#17 Your response or "comment" dear @Deb 🐝 Helfrich continues to reflect you and your ability to communicate and express your thoughts and feelings in a truly unique way. I echo Wendy Weiner Runge's words: "narrow down what the world needs [you] to do, and focus on creating the business that will support [you] sharing [your] value with others."
Thank you for your kind and generous words. I am grateful for our collaboration and engagement. Wishing you all the best!27/01/2017 #18 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#12 Dear Fatima [ @🐝 Fatima G. Williams ] that panegyric is a part of my "Orange Bee" hive
This also sparked also sparked a discussion about the word "panegyric" here :
https://www.bebee.com/content/81604527/01/2017 #17 Deb 🐝 HelfrichWhat an incredible honor, @Sara Jacobovici. You will not be surprised to find out this buzz arrives at a truly synchronisitic moment! Wendy Weiner Runge was simultaneously suggesting to me on the phone that I needed to ask people what value they find in my comments, so that I can narrow down what the world needs me to do, and focus on creating the business that will support me sharing my value with others.
The admiration is truly mutual. I am always joyful when I start to read one of your articles, as I am certain you will enhance my energy via your carefully crafted words and stunningly accurate ideas.
You are someone with a profound knowing and you share it so generously and with so much willingness to engage with whatever arises.
I am so grateful that we get to collaborate in comments sections for the simple pleasure of the energy that is exchanged and then stored electronically so that many others can fuel their own ideas, feelings, and actions.26/01/2017 #14 Cyndi wilkins"The words are mostly familiar and yet I rarely get deja vu. My sense of deja ecris is significantly less intense. Until, that is, I reread the entire post and then I seen to be better able to relocate my own words as a response to what the author has written.
I find this fascinating. Anyone else aware of cross-pollinating with a prior self via old comments and/or posts?"
Hmmm, how the heck did I miss this comment...I love the expression "cross-pollinating with a prior self." It resonates with me as a form of "time travel" within one's mind...Many of my posts echo the same concept...Interesting tapestry we are weaving here...What say you @Sarah Elkins??26/01/2017 #13 🐝 Fatima G. Williams@Deb 🐝 Helfrich is an inspiration and a symbol of love to me. I love her way of just commenting. Her presence is felt through her comments. The human energy she talks about is displayed. More than buzzes we have interacted through comments and having completed her book on Unique Interview Insights I would say this panegyric and much more is due her way. Congratulations Deb 🐝 Helfrich Loved the book and Thank you dear @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee for tagging me to this wonderful buzz.26/01/2017 #12 🐝 Fatima G. WilliamsThis is a very beautiful panegyric Sara !
I remember the one @CityVP 🐝 Manjit wrote about you a few months ago. ( I was searching for it on linkedin and here need help locating it please)
I admire you for always having regards and admiration for others for all the right reasons. Sometimes I quietly observe and I see Year's of experience filled with humbleness displayed in words with creativity which requires great appreciation. I am proud to know you and the bees mentioned in my buzz "Why I love beBee series ". Thank you for showing that love can be displayed creatively too 🤗😍🤗26/01/2017 #9 Cyndi wilkins"What happens in my brain doesn't necessarily happen in language." That's my favorite line in that last paragraph...I feel the same way. Thank goodness all those thoughts smashing into each other don't come out on the page. It would be a jumbled mess;-) Sometimes the complexities of the language cause my eyes to glaze over! Deb is one of a kind...We are very lucky to have her. This is a great tribute to her @Sara Jacobovici...A beautiful example of how we support our community...26/01/2017 #8 Gert Scholtz@Sara Jacobovici Thank you for this post highlighting @Deb 🐝 Helfrich's writing. She is one of the rare writers who's work I can read again and again, and every time find something new. Deb states it so well: "Reading and writing are very powerful forms of human energy and I celebrate giving them the admiration they deserve!" To you Deb!26/01/2017 #5 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Sara Jacobovici- just joined your hibe The How or Writing. Who could afford not to join having read the cross-pollination of ideas between the two admirable ladies- @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and yourself? This bzz shows the value of exchanging comments and the arouse they create in active minds.
@🐝 Fatima G. Williams- you have a mention in this beautiful buzz.26/01/2017 #4 Mohammed Sultan@Sara Jacobovici.When you appreciate anyone you make h/her success belongs to you, it's the intelligence of a creative art therapist.I consider myself one of those who are a rider of her ideas ,not just a reader.@Deb 🐝 Helfrich View more@Sara Jacobovici.When you appreciate anyone you make h/her success belongs to you, it's the intelligence of a creative art therapist.I consider myself one of those who are a rider of her ideas ,not just a reader.@Deb 🐝 Helfricharticle not only hit the shore of my memory but hit my imagination,too.Thank you for being a "safety valve"creator for many bees. Close
- Producer18/01/2017Things coming together.Image credit: Drawception I posted a buzz, Right place, right time, in which I said: “Having a good sense of direction can be an asset in getting you to be in that right place. But that sense cannot...
Comments21/01/2017 #21 🐝 Fatima G. WilliamsSeparation and integration are our way of being. This buzz has some very interesting and intriguing comments on
Deb's sparking comment.
We are creating our world inside our being and our world is being created outside our being at the same time. More like the conflict on what to do between the heart and the mind. In both cases it is in the power of creation of thought/ our thinking like Deb Helfrich says.
@Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee has opened a passage of thoughts that exist between worlds and what happens if we are in either one side or on both at the same time. I'm blaffed with how lost we get when our senses fail to detect this cross over and synchronisation of paths between the two worlds.
Thank you everyone this is a good "put my thinking-cap" read and I thoroughly enjoyed every comment on this buzz.18/01/2017 #17 Deb 🐝 HelfrichIt feels to me like time is internal and space is external and that mostly our thinking equipment manages to integrate these two dimensions, but we do, on occasion, end up out of sync - much in the way of visual illusions where we shift our focus just ever so slightly and see a different picture.
I experience time as pressure. Mostly comforting pressure like how my dog shows affection by touch. But when I start to experience time as sharp, painful pressure, I realize I have focused on this perspective to the exclusion of all my other senses. Curiously, even though I know I often cause myself undue emotions based on how I focus on the pressure of time, it is how I experience the world until someone else points out they live within time without pressure.
Very thought-provoking discussion @Sara Jacobovici & @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee18/01/2017 #16 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeI have responded to this great buzz in a buzz titled "The Synchronicity of Coming Together"
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/the-synchronicity-of-coming-together18/01/2017 #14 Mohammed SultanWhen it comes to motivation,the good things that come together is your inside-out purpose, potentials and fear of regressing to failure,and outside-in gain,rewarding,recognition and pride.Cross-pollination of any of these factors of motivation will have different impact on one's satisfaction and content. There's also bad things coming together ,inside- out come negative emotions and inertia and from outside- in rigid rues and deteriorating economies,all of which are anti-motivational and may be also depressing.18/01/2017 #12 Sara Jacobovici#11 "It is not this or that; it is both acting and reinforcing each other in simultaneity that produce the biggest effect of motivation." @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, you have taken the concept of "things coming together" and, from my perspective, you have managed to penetrate the 4th timespace dimension.
In terms of time, I am always amazed as to how much you get done in the same amount of time as "us mortals" but I am hopeful you will at some point manage to find the time to expand on this exceptional idea.
I am going to use the hive https://www.bebee.com/group/bubbling-honey to share the thoughts that your idea has inspired.18/01/2017 #11 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeIt amazing how cross-pollination of ideas lead to writing such a lovely buzz dear @Sara Jacobovici. Thanks are also due to dear @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee for provoking you to write this buzz.
What a lovely idea: the synchronization of time and ~BOTH spaces-internal world and external world- can only lead to `Our internal world by itself, and our external world by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality". I would again highlight that the two worlds are spaces and the two have to be in synchronicity for our world to be meaningful
What still intrigues me more is the extension of this idea. For example, external and internal motivators shall give real meaning to motivation if they are in synchronicity. It is not this or that; it is both acting and reinforcing each other in simultaneity that produce the biggest effect of motivation. I don't think this idea has been discussed before. I wonder what you think?18/01/2017 #9 Sara Jacobovici#7 Amazing @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee! Our connection continues. You described exactly the process I go through: "I can not keep up - I have so many draft posts where I jot down ideas after reading a post. They are then waiting for the seeds to germinate a little more and then be thrown out into a hive for pollinating with others."
So glad to hear that what I was inspired to write by your comment (and so relieved you didn't decide not to post it) made sense to you.18/01/2017 #8 Mohammed SultanWhen we create consistent internal and external inside-out and outside- in within ourselves,our internal actions and their external impact will be consisten,and our actions can easily be justified.Each of us has his own "window horizon" and stand by it to see the outer world ,whenever we change our position at the window we can see different things or see them differently.Everybody,also, has his own "time window" ,and because we are 'time binding being' our time widow determines to a great extent our capacity to see the future.Some can stretch their thinking beyond the norm and think strategically, and others have time windows that put limits on what they can do and think tactically,although the stimuli could be the same.Thanks @Sara Jacobovici and to @Deb Lange for extending your original post.18/01/2017 #7 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBeeDear @Sara Jacobovici you have managed to make sense of my meandering musing to your last post! Well done! I was very confused about what I wrote. I nearly did not post my comment! And you have made sense of it! I love the cross pollination in beBee! It is energising and exciting! I can not keep up - I have so many draft posts where I jot down ideas after reading a post. They are then waiting for the seeds to germinate a little more and then be thrown out into a hive for pollinating with others. BeBee is the best platform
And where I feel the most comfortable.18/01/2017 #3 John RylanceI like the idea of "cross pollinator " it's to my thinking a new slant on "thinking outside the box" and the less well known "ignorant observer". The latter someone not directly linked to the problem, who provides an answer new to the situation.
All are ways of bringing fresh ideas into the mix, something which should be welcomed, and hopefully what much of beBee is about.
- 01/01/2017Great comment by @CityVP 🐝 Manjit to a great story by @Lisa Vanderburg: "This is good and I would think even more exhilarating performed as a monologue direct to the grandmother 'Granny Grim'. Beyond the woven language, this really brought home the beauty of memorable characters. In the homogenized existence of the cultural fabric of modern media, we look for personality drawn in medium that do exist in our own environs. What we have not learned to do is capture the richness of detail of the most unique personalities either known to us, or we have known - or even that exist in our imaginative flow of storytelling.
The staged play is already made in the oven of art, and we can pay the admission price to that which is shared to all - but there is great dimension in the stories that are most personal to us - and great credit to those who have noticed life playing out like this in their own life. It means we noticed the living, we utilized that which nature equipped our own faculties, and in that exists the kind of originality that we may not find with a public admission ticket. I know that @Sara Jacobovici is a Trekkie, so she will enjoy this well beyond the Spock tribute. I enjoyed the DNA in this story - well beyond anything replicate and exponentially personal from the mind of a skilled storyteller."T'was the last night of the old year; a tale of nether-worldswww.bebee.com I hold the concept of joyous abandon of all rationality towards New Year's Eve with some foreboding - arm's length on the end of a pike would...
Comments01/01/2017 #1 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI love the hive name "Only Humans Tell Stories". This is where I distinguish stories from dance. So many life forms dance and as animals evolve they become more tribal, but at the part where the tribal can relate stories, from this point there is this uniqueness we refer to as humanity. This is the point where evolution takes us into the human.
Animals also make machines and the Spiders Web is an incredible piece of machinery. Our tribal nature may identity with machines but again how we evolve as a human being is recognizing what in the creation of advanced machines allows us to be more human.
The capacity of our humanity is a pure unadulterated appreciation of life and the gifts of nature, and our evolution into becoming human beings. We can appreciate our animal being, we can appreciate the being of machine but it is the whole which we are a part of which defines our humanity and not the destruction of that wholeness.
Storytelling is not necessarily a human act, for our tribal behaviour can use stories for nefarious intent - but at the level of being a human being, this gift of storytelling is ours to advance humanity or waste and in this regard nature has the final say whether humanity evolves or is just another piece of evolution, in a planet that has a beginning and an end.
Maybe the end point of our intelligence is to send out life-giving properties into the universe, that become the ingredients to new planets, but time is so huge in scale, we can focus on the story of humanity as it is now, without any worry or tribal stories about the end of time. If humans only tell stories then this is a living pathway to our collective humanity.
- Producer14/12/2016Challenging Today's Social NormsWe look up at clouds everyday and they are just part of the landscape view. If we can look at their processes and see their cycles we can see social networking and its strengths. Cloud formation and the benefits it brings require a specific set of...
Comments16/12/2016 #40 Harvey Lloyd#38 I agree the crossroads at which we stand will be lead buy our accelerated communications techniques on many platforms. The will of the people will be served. In this they must take media by the hand and stage the journey. Social media platforms or government would be wise not to try and throttle the people as this would be a mess.
The journey ahead will be lead by ordinary folks not great writers or politicians. Thanks for your comments and thoughts. I can see you leading within this sea of change as i have enjoyed many of your comments.16/12/2016 #39 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#37 As you wrote @Harvey Lloyd "Our thoughts should help us transcend the static into dynamic action. We can discuss concepts until we fully understand, but if it doesn't lead to change in action then it is static"- well and I shall take action16/12/2016 #38 debasish majumderyes, new media or social media has the potential to create a concrete platform and even change the dynamics of the political as well social flow, which recently we observe in U.S. election, their capacity and strength. on contrary, a value based platform with integrity sure make a significant proposition in due time, though initially insignificant in nascent stage, but having the potential too to make a sea change with obviously a concrete approach. lovely insightful post @Harvey Lloyd! enjoyed read. thank you for the share.16/12/2016 #37 Harvey Lloyd#36 By all means please carry the thoughts along as you examine your thoughts.
I am always curious of the disconnect of our own thoughts. The three states don't work if your thoughts are not surrounding dynamic usable outcomes. But i read posts/concepts that focus on static concepts while we live in a dynamic world.
Our thoughts should help us transcend the static into dynamic action. We can discuss concepts until we fully understand, but if it doesn't lead to change in action then it is static.
If the above statement is true then our thoughts should always be considered within the end game.
Understanding today will emerge as action tomorrow.
This changes our thoughts from "positions" where defense and offense happen, to action thoughts where we realize our thoughts will be attached to a future action. Dynamic thoughts.
Each step of cloud formation and ultimately rain, is actionable with a result. I see in many posts where we forward a emotional position. These posts remind us of dynamic journeys that have become static positions we cant understand/tolerate or need dynamic thoughts to move forward. Continuing to forward an emotional thought though, does not change the static position.16/12/2016 #36 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#35 Now you provoke my mind intensely dear @Harvey Lloyd. I enjoyed your comment and it deserves a buzz on its own. If you don't write a buzz related to your comment then I shall.
Yes, the comfort zone is a transient zone to clean our mind cache and move on. You "moved" me beyond limits with your super-quality comment.16/12/2016 #35 Harvey Lloyd#34 I have often felt that we are in a state of three conditions when we are seeking understanding or work through issues. I am right until i am wrong, I am wrong until i am right, I am not moving forward. These conditions display state of mind and not judgement. Specifically as it applies to making choices/decisions.
I can move from state to state based on new information. But realizing these conditions exist allows me to operate without blindness or stagnation. The third state is the challenge as time works against us in a world that moves very quickly. Sometimes we need to work forward even though we may feel wrong, just to start the journey towards right.
Our comfort zone is always an eroding oasis. A brain relaxing zone if you will. These are the times when we see most clear and relax. Cherish them as the next leg of the journey will come soon enough @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee16/12/2016 #34 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeAsking is a sign of maturity. It shows our lack of knowledge and areas where we wish to learn more. I agree with you @Harvey Lloyd and how many times we found that what we believed was a correct answer later proved to be wrong. It is asking questions that keeps us in tension state to desire to know more; answers tend to place us in our comfort zone. We call it comfort zone and in reality it could the ignorance zone and even sometimes the stupidity zone.15/12/2016 #32 Harvey Lloyd#29 One of the things i have recognized in social media (I am a newbee), is we discuss relationships and networks but we see individual comments or posts as a representation of a whole. I try and read comments and posts based on the network and the relationship. I know many relationships and comments contain the depth of previous ideas and thoughts expressed across BeBee. So when @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee comments or replies to one i know he has probably done so with that individual many times before. Most likely on related and unrelated topics.
Given this, i have seen a consistency in his responses that shine a clear light on his core values. I have seen him also debate heavily with other Bee's and even then his core values were not abandoned. This consistency is what we gravitate towards.15/12/2016 #31 Harvey Lloyd#28 @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee thanks for your comment and thoughts. The topics discussed are divisive depending on your perspective. Early in my leadership career in small business i had to learn quickly that customers, employees and vendors all had a single thought in mind. Their success. Theirs and mine were not always congruent to accomplishing the goal(s).
I watched success over the years (and failures), and found that most of the success happens where a shared set of core values existed. The last picture in the post displays some of these. I lead with these core values to retain a consistency in my leadership. When we can face adversity from a solid foundation of core values of respect, active listening and professional responses then we can be consistent in our outcomes.
BeBee is creative and i have learned a lot from reading yours and others posts. My learning accelerates when differing opinions arise within the comments. I like old fashion debates. I know debating is not fashionable these days. Within these debates folks defend their positions and reach deeply into their wealth of knowledge and write words that support their ideals. I learn from them. This also seems harsh in today's world.
Thanks again for your comments.15/12/2016 #30 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#28 @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee (WOw! your name is highlighting)- do you understand these are parts of your values "who add to ideas, rather than pull them down, who converge ideas allowing new patterns to form and something new to bubble up and emerge"? For me, they are. Very-well said15/12/2016 #28 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBeeI agree with you @Harvey Lloyd - I am attracted to people who I sense through their words and actions online, who read and respect diverse views, who add to ideas, rather than pull them down, who converge ideas allowing new patterns to form and something new to bubble up and emerge. This seems to be happening on beBee in ways that are different from other sites. I feel like LinkedIn is more individualistic, facebook possibly so, even though it has it''s groups. BeBee seems to be more community, sub-community orientated. Although I am only connected to a small group of people on BeBee so I can not say what the overall trend is, other than if the small group I am connecting to has these characteristics, are they a "fractal", a pattern held within the larger group? My core values, hmm, respect of all living beings and their diverse ways of living in our eco-system; freedom with respect; love appreciation gratitude; - hard to come down to 3. I am attracted to the development of ideas and learning from one another in BeBee - I sense the building of a core community I am connecting with, gradually, as time and interactions permit.14/12/2016 #25 Harvey Lloyd#24 Not to labor the point but i do agree that the outcomes of negative views and the journey can lead to distorted thinking. My post is trying to deal with this point, not necessarily place someone in a fixed position. Core values offer us a tool to create a different perspective during the times when we are maybe myopic or focused on a negative aspect.
I agree with @Phil Friedman distorted thinking is developed through a process of behaviours and interactions. I find myself there sometimes. With core values i can find my way out or maybe avoid the place all together..
So in a simpler form the core values offer us a way of avoiding the processes you speak. Doesn't mean we necessarily take advantage of this process as often as we should.
Core values like honesty, humility, forgiveness, seek to understand and many others can assist in avoiding the distorted view Phil points out.14/12/2016 #24 Mohammed Sultan#22 The challenge is always are we able to see our past blinders and the blinders imposed by our judgments and expectations about others.As @Phil Friedman once said in one of his comments on a related issue -distorted thinking is contagious-and I added -when it becomes a habit it spreads.If we can't change our perception first we will not be able to change or create anything new.I completely agree on what @ Mohammed A.Jawad said, if we can't change our negative perception we may regress to a negative mood.14/12/2016 #22 Harvey Lloyd#21 I agree with the concepts you discuss and would add that the perception is the aspect of the post i was addressing. Perceptions do change based on moods, current events and even to the degree of who might be presenting. Given these variables how can we ever shape ourselves into a society that is sustainable?
A solution is core values. Yes i have perceptions and they are influenced. But if i have a clear set of core values then i can filter my perceptions through them. I liked what @Mohammed A. Jawad said on a related post "While being fluid or flexible in approach, we all need luminous lampposts for traversing in a truer manner. If not, we get drifted without any directions or reaching any destination." I took his "Luminous Lampposts" to indicate a core value set.
We should constantly seek different views, but we should also remain true to our values. I don't believe the two are mutually exclusive.14/12/2016 #21 Mohammed Sultan@Harvey LIoyod. Our perception of values is not so much determined by what people bring to us, as by our views toward what they bring ,not so much by what happens as by the way our minds look at what happens.When we become optimistic we will view the same thing differently ,we will see the brighter line of the cloud instead of seeing its inside darker color,which may also deprive us from seeing the colors of the rainbow in the sky.Values are not values unless they are shared.The more often we look at things in the same way ,the more difficult it's to think about them in any other way.When we become regularly tuned to our judgement about people we may lose our personal balance,integrity and start criticising or blaming others or even turn around our established values.
- 27/11/2016This is a comment a made in the comment box which I felt I needed to share with all of you "Outside the Comment Box".
Attention to all readers and @Javier 🐝 beBee. I am experiencing, in real time, a cross pollination in which I am commenting on this post on how Jared's comment adds to the work I am doing as a result of another post. As well, I found myself this morning cross pollinating across social network when I shared on beBee a post from linkedin which also supports the work I am doing and contributes to the discussions I have had on beBee. I am writing all this as to show how the idea of affinity and engagement, and beBee's role as a bridge with other networks is coming to life on a daily basis. Hurray to all!
- Producer23/11/2016beBee is to Engage with Passionate CuriosityI wrote a comment addressed to Javier beBee that beBee is Engagement with Passionate Curiosity instead of Engagement with Passion. I find the reasoning would be of interest to many readers. Moreover, this buzz should serve as real example of the...
Comments24/11/2016 #66 Deb 🐝 Helfrich#56 As you so often do for others, I have to encourage you, @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee to expand this comment into a full buzz, as the implications for every human are too great to have it buried. The 3 simplest, yet most important things we can do are drink water, breathe, and sleep - there are profound health benefits to getting these 3 right. And dire consequences when we let the contemporary lifestyle pressure us to neglect our own right balance of proper hydration, respiration, and sleep.
Passionate curiosity about the best way to optimize our own bodies is part of being in a dynamic community of people who aren't hurting, either physically or emotionally, and therefore can contribute their best selves - mind, body, and spirit.24/11/2016 #63 Franci🐝Eugenia HoffmanThank you for the mention, Ali. Concerning your comments about water and how the lack of it will affect your health, water will help fuel vitality. So don't neglect yourself by not drinking enough water.
BTW, your posts and you including others in the post itself or via the comments is an excellent way to engage with passionate vitality.24/11/2016 #61 Mohammed Sultan#58 When we think of the rule 80: 20 we find that 80 % of what we do yield 20% of results, we will realize that 60 % of our thinking energy is wasted.Thus much of our accumulated knowledge and experience is excluded,but may be brought again when we allow our minds to wander.24/11/2016 #58 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeDear @Mohammed Sultan- you give me something to think about: Creativity = Analytics + Curiosity. Equally interesting is that Curiosity is a source of energy. I wonder what @Harvey Lloyd thinks as he mentioned energy in his last comment. Harvey wrote "The light is (the outcome or trial and error) where energy is applied". Could we amalgamate the two and say trial and error that leads to more curiosity is the source of energy (like light for trees)? I greatly appreciate your comment Mohammed for we are all trying and learn from our errors and hopefully, increasing or curiosity to learn more.24/11/2016 #57 Mohammed SultanDear @ Ali Anani.PhD.Thanks for sharing your creative slogan.When we think of the research process from data collection and analysis to reaching a conclusion ,curiosity is the state by which we maintain an open mind and spirit of inquiry and helps in looking for things in a different way.unlike our judgement which can lead us to a "prison" of familiarity or to fall victim to our held beliefs ,curiosity can free and lead us to the gate of creativity.We often shape our strategic decisions by being more curious.This why we often say creativity is more powerful than analytics when it comes to designing an effective strategy.Here I can say with confidence that Creativity= Analytics+curiosity.In our research process curiosity is the "energy" that enhance the speed and power of our interpretations and creates the interest and desire for our follow up action of the research findings.24/11/2016 #56 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#54 Dear @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee- let me confess to you. I lived in the Gulf and other places for years and temperature and humidity there are on the extremes. In spite of my knowledge and understanding of the importance of water to our bodies I was very neglectful in drinking enough amounts of water. I would even say I rarely did. All my family tend to have blood pressure towards the low end, except for I. Almost 20 years back I suffered from blood pressure. Nobody expected that because I have inner peace and no genetic problems. One time my blood pressure reached 190/140!!! No medical specialist could figure out the causes. I had to go on medicine to deal with it. Recently, when I suffered from other and compounded health problems, an MD did a quick checkup and told me you don't enough water. I warn you of the consequences". This time I knew, I understood and I acted. Because the MD had regularly to check my blood pressure we was surprised. My blood pressure dropped to 110/70. Many other health problems disappeared. Apparently, accumulation of salts in my body raised my blood pressure. Drinking water in plentiful amounts for a month acted like magic.
I say this because I want to give a personal example of the applicability of your great comment24/11/2016 #55 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#53 I just wonder what @Sara Jacobovici and @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee would say. @Harvey Lloyd- You have covered brilliantly 50% of what I intend to discuss in the next buzz. Great wisdom, and I believe we are getting closer to understanding knowledge. I am absolutely marveled by the quality of your comment. It is flowing like water and energizing like light.24/11/2016 #54 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee#50 Dear @Ali Anani your metaphor talks of the seeds needing knowledge & doing. Sara Jacobovici says we need understanding - and I think she is talking about the experience of the here and now in our physicality, not is some abstract way.
If we use plants and seeds as a metaphor for people and how they learn and grow, it makes me ask questions about water, air, energy, our body.
Our emotional state affects our energy, affects the water in our body, affects our DNA, effects our sensing and thinking and physical health. We are 70%water. We know our intentions and what we think change water crystals outside of us, so we must also change the water crystals inside our bodies when we are thinking & sensing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvzsjcBtx8
Deepak Chopra shares his view that the human body is pure energy. Our emotional state has an effect on our body, our brain & our genes to the point of affecting our DNA structures.
Everything is connected. Yet, when we act and think as if we are separate from our body, whther we know it or not, we are affecting the water molecules, physical DNA, and energy in our body and we get illnesses.
If we get physical illnesses, do we also get infected thinking? Thinking that is cut off from the whole, cut off from our physical reality and the physical reality of life around us? Will we become more creative and act more like plants who communicate with their root system, branches, light, air, water, senses, smell & energy? When we regain our connection with ourselves as nature connected to the natural world what new possibilities & latent intelligence will open to us?24/11/2016 #53 Harvey Lloyd#47 Seed>Soil>Water>Light @Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. This could be the basis of reviewing the human experience. The seed representing an idea or even a person. The soil is the fertile ground of knowledge and environmental understanding, while the water would be the brain's ability to float this new knowledge into action between others.
The light is (the outcome or trial and error) where energy is applied. This is where the process starts over. WIth the reflection of what the light has returned to our system, we can then plant new seeds.
This cycle may be labeled the cycle of wisdom. (Curisoisty/need=need for knowledge=skills to apply knowledge=observation of outcome=adjustments/new knowledge=reapplication)=Wisdom
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Comments27/11/2016 #103 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adds VALUE & RESULTS#102 Love it! HA... here we go....
Your acceptance comment reminds me of M. Scott Peck's Road Less Travelled (which I imagine you've read ;)
The first 2 paragraphs speak to acceptance (CAPS are mine):
"Life is difficult.
This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths. It is a great truth because once we truly see this truth, we transcend it. Once we truly know that life is difficult - once we truly understand and ACCEPT it - then life is no longer difficult. Because once it is accepted, the fact that life is difficult no longer matters."
The paradox, duality, good/bad, negative emotions (suffering) topics also remind me of Dan Millman's The Life You Were Born to Live. From the chapter, The Law of Perfection:
"From a transcendental perspective, everyone and everything is unconditionally perfect; from a conventional viewpoint, perfection doesn't exist" -J. Krishnamurti
"The Law of Perfection presents a paradox because it contains two apparently opposite truths, which operate at different levels of experience.
From a conventional view, this world is a place of suffering: crime in the streets, the hungry, the homeless, the oppressed. Even without the daily news, in our own lives, when we get what we don't want, we suffer; when we don't get what we do want, we also suffer; and even when we get exactly what we want, nothing lasts in this realm.
From a transcendental perspective - seeing ourselves and this world with all its difficulties from the all-encompassing wisdom and patience and love and understanding that comes when our hearts are open - then all of it, the joys and sorrows, the suffering and pleasure, and everything going on in this moment on planet Earth, is absolutely, completely perfect in terms of a great process of evolution."27/11/2016 #102 Sara Jacobovici#101 No rambling here @Jared Wiese but your perspective and insights. Thanks for sharing. When you write, "Until we reach a threshold, we probably will not really change the circumstances that got us, stung.", it reminds me of Carl Rogers quote, "The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change."27/11/2016 #101 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adds VALUE & RESULTS#84 yes, Sara. Thank you for the insightful reply! More good perspectives.
My simile also speaks to tolerance. Many people can tolerate 1 sting. Some cannot. Until we reach a threshold, we probably will not really change the circumstances that got us, stung.
I am thinking of the more current definition of tolerance. To me, it then gets into how much pain we take before changing. This ties to negative emotions and your discussion point.
- Am I "really mad/sad/hurt/NEGATIVE" that I got stung? (notice the reactivity)
- Am I "grateful/glad/smarter/POSITIVE" that I now know what I did or can do to avoid getting stung (proactive).
It is not me vs. the bee. It is me AND the bee. Perhaps that's another perception of duality?! We both exist and do what we are innately born to do (sting/react)
. . . or learn to do better (sting/not swat at a Bee's nest, then get uoset about it) if we are more evolved.
Please excuse the rambling-if you feel/choose to see it as such. I hope it ties to many points in this discussion.27/11/2016 #100 Sara JacoboviciPart 2/2 @Nikki Petersen continued from part 1.....Tension does exist in the "negative" until the expected resolution occurs and then the positive/release takes place. The duration, intensity and sense of familiarity of the tension will create different experiences. Nothing simple about all of this but certainly makes for interesting discussion.
I have to confess the first thing I thought of was Peanuts and Lucy and Charlie Brown and the football. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=055wFyO6gag27/11/2016 #99 Sara Jacobovici#96 Part 1/2 Thank you @Nikki Petersen for taking the time to read my post and for your comment. I appreciate you bringing up trust/mistrust as they are are an important contribution to this discussion. You write, "For us to create the trust that enables the sitting with the tension, there also has to be mistrust. There has to be doubt that the outcome will be what we hope it will be." My sense of this is a mature view point; something we are able to form out of accumulated experiences, whereas trust and mistrust are formed very early on in human development. It's not a matter of hope for the newborn and infant to have his or her needs met, its an expectation. The newborn or infant trusts that his or her physical and emotional needs will be met; it's unspoken and innate. It is when those needs are not met that mistrust begins to form and produces feelings/sensations related to anxiety.
In any group, individuals bring their own meanings formed from experiences related to expectations and will either be "naively" open in their trust or on the other end of the spectrum, suspicious, or anywhere in between. Trust is earned; we shouldn't trust anyone until they have proven that they are trustworthy. In terms of my clinical work I remind my client of that. I have to work hard at earning his or her trust. As well, I remind my client that there are three aspects to the trust in the work; they need to trust themselves that they will do what they need or able to do in their work, trust the medium; whether the talking or the creative arts materials and process, and then there is me, where the client can take the time to develop that trust.27/11/2016 #97 Jim MurrayI learned a bit here and that's always good. This is a solid post, nicely reasoned and resolved and very useful, especially for Americans at this extremely stressful juncture in their history.
But I was a little taken aback at some of the comments. This Max Carter fellow very much appears to be a walking contradiction of sorts. "I have one rule in life. Do not go to jail. If you like it, do it again, if not, don't." What does that even mean and what does that have to do with your piece? The first time I read it I got the distinct impression he was approving of those who choose a life of crime.
There's a certain etiquette that needs to be observed here. People spend a lot of time and energy on their posts, and slathering the comments with non-sequiturs and discussion highjacks is really bad form. The whole idea is that the engagement should add to the value of the post, not take the discussion off into the wild blue yonder.
I guess you could accuse me of the same thing, but it needed to be said, because I'm seeing a lot of it lately.27/11/2016 #96 Nikki Petersen@Sara Jacobovici I enjoyed your discussion of this topic. I do enjoy this forum because it allows me to think deeply, which I need in my life. Thank you.
I wonder where trust fits in? In trying to apply the topic to my own life, personal, business, and parenting (among other aspects), my observation is that so much of the tension and dissonance is created by trust/mistrust issues. For example, the employees can feel that they should focus on the journey of discovery to multiple outcomes, but they have to trust that their ideas will fall on receptive ears; isn't the reason that sitting with the tension is uncomfortable is because they're not sure they can trust what will happen in the long-run?
With your other example, music and therapy, doesn't the client need to be able to trust that the outcome of being with the tension created in a session will be useful or meaningful? That trust isn't just there, automagically -- it has to be created.
For us to create the trust that enables the sitting with the tension, there also has to be mistrust. There has to be doubt that the outcome will be what we hope it will be.
And that's where the circle comes back to negative emotions. We've all been hurt and we've all experienced the disappointment of misplaced trust. It's part of being human.
The tension between positive and negative then, must come from trust and mistrust?27/11/2016 #89 Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#88 There are simple rules for birds flocking together> The feedback effect leading to chaos is based on simple rules. No one pretends the rules are always right, but we strive to improve them. They help in focusing our efforts. Nobody till now can predict the weather of of its complexity, but it was the three simple differential equations that helped in noticing the butterfly effect. We are trying to do the same.27/11/2016 #85 Sara Jacobovici#80 An invaluable comment and a great contribution to the discussion @Jared Wiese. Well written! You have given me more to consider in my work as I pull together an equation that results in action. I look forward to inlcuding your comment (with proper credit) in my work. Thanks.
@Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, I see this as relevant to the process of the equation or in adding the equation of choice. Lots of work, but well worth it. Plus as I am working on the real work example of the fractal trajectories of emotions and am beginning to think that the equation(s) is connected. Again, lots of work.
Attention to all readers and @Javier 🐝 beBee. I am experiencing, in real time, a cross pollination in which I am commenting on this post on how Jared's comment adds to the work I am doing as a result of another post. As well, I found myself this morning cross pollinating across social network when I shared on beBee a post from linkedin which also supports the work I am doing and contributes to the discussion I have had on beBee. I am writing all this as to show how the idea of affinity and engagement, and beBee's role as a bridge with other networks is coming to life on a daily basis. Hurray to all!27/11/2016 #84 Sara Jacobovici#79 If I understand your point @Jared Wiese, there is an increased impact with the number of "stings". Very true, how we cope with one onslaught is often easier than those coming from a mass. The complexity lies in the fact that each individual is unique in how their system responds. Some are allergic to bee stings and are very threatened by that single sting. While others have built up a strong netting that doesn't allow the bees to penetrate.27/11/2016 #83 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adds VALUE & RESULTSPart 6...
I see the following ties to Sara's cognitive dissonance:
Robbins talks about personal rules in https://www.tonyrobbins.com/mind-meaning/our-set-of-rules/
'Where do these rules come from? Did you just make them up as you went along? The answer is: they stem from your beliefs and from your values.
Your beliefs and values were adopted by you as you grew up. Ever hear the phrase “you are who your friends are”? We pick up little pieces of other people — the
characteristics that we like. Then, we discard the characteristics that we don’t like. The end result are your existing values and beliefs. Both of these help you to
determine whether something is “good” or “bad.”
Our rules shape us, they make up who we are. There’s nothing wrong with that! It’s when our rules become unreasonable and make our relationships more difficult that we
need to re-evaluate and re-shape our beliefs and our values so they create more harmony, not conflict.'
...This leads to values:
Robbins wrote about values hierarchy and a ranking of Moving-Toward Values:
http://sourcesofinsight.com/change-your-values-change-your-life/27/11/2016 #82 Jared Wiese, 🐝 adds VALUE & RESULTSPart 5...
In Dr. Anani's buzz, The Positive Side of Negative Emotions, he asserts that opposites co-exist. I'd agree. This is the paradox of life. I touched on these opposites a bit in Part 3 with Covey.
Robbins worked with Dr. Chloe Madanes to come up with The Six Human Needs, the human paradox:
Take the test!
http://six-human-needs-test.herokuapp.com/members/new (this was not working when I tried)