- Producer08/12/2016For the Communicationally - ChallengedWHICH IS ALL OF US; IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE DAY. All too often the art of communication, or lack of art, gets us into trouble. With a little grace and intentionality in the way we listen and speak, the majority of the problems we face would be...
Comments08/12/2016 #6 Mohammed A. JawadIndeed, the art of communication matters most. If we make a truthful, clear utterance with right facial expressions, then that's really going to influence others. Like dulcet oratory plays a magic on listeners, even wrong words and harsh tone can simply mar our relationships.08/12/2016 #1 Sarah ElkinsI can really use #6, Laine, what a great way to respond! I know I can apply that to our two teenagers, too. These are good guidelines, and are complementary to the conversation I had with @Alan Culler View moreI can really use #6, Laine, what a great way to respond! I know I can apply that to our two teenagers, too. These are good guidelines, and are complementary to the conversation I had with @Alan Culler today. Terrific post! Close
- Producer01/12/2016The number one reason why I use beBee, no anonymous profile viewsIn the years I have spent on Linkedin this has been an ongoing complaint from the members and has been discussed in many of their groups and posted on updates and people have written articles begging Linkedin to knock it off. Now we have beBee and...
Comments04/12/2016 #18 Brian McKenzieThere are a few fakes, posers and sharlatans here, and more than a couple claiming to be military that are not who they claim to be. They should know that false impersonation of a military officer or Medal of Valor recepient is a punishable offense with both jail and monetary penalties....and yes - I have passed their info and IP along to appropriate tasking offices. I wish the boys in CID & NCIS happy hunting.02/12/2016 #14 Max J. Carter#11 Thee is nothing healthy about the mechanism of anonymous profile viewing. It creates a view that says I can hide myself and do whatever I want because they can;t see me and they have no idea who I am.
The mechanism of allowing anonymous profile views is bad for the human and there is nothing healthy about it. It promotes mental instability.02/12/2016 #12 Zacharias VoulgarisFor me it's not just the action of viewing a profile anonymously that's sad, but also what this action represents. Basically by allowing this sly attitude towards connecting, you condone the mentality from which it stems. Without realizing it, by being OK with anonymous viewing, you are advocating surveillance, subtly and passively. Then years later you find yourself in a Big Brother society and you wonder why.02/12/2016 #11 Harvey LloydI would think it would be better if Bebee allowed, within the profile, a check box that would allow or not Anonymous profile views. Some folks would maybe like to allow this for job hunting or allowing their profile to be viewed by potential organizations. I could also agree with some not wanting. A simple fix would be, Allow anonymous profile views yes, no.
Good thoughts here of supporting the end user.02/12/2016 #10 Robert CormackI agree, @Max J. Carter. I think what KinkedIn was doing (and I could be wrong) was allowing employers to scope profiles of potential candidates without the candidates thinking they had the job "in the bag." I can understand that. I honestly didn't think of stalking, but I suppose it's always a possibility on social media. I admit, it wasn't my main reason for joining beeBee but, certainly, I'm sure it gives contributors peace of mind here.
- Producer04/12/2016AN HONEST CONFESSION OF A POET!I resorted to poetry To explore my own venture with fancy Obviously to escape from confronting hard reality Not having substantial strength explicit honestly Poetry is my only resort To avoid the social exhort Where...
Comments06/12/2016 #3 Franci Eugenia HoffmanDebasish, you are a superb poet and IMO, you write from your heart. Poetry is a great way to express feelings and in multiple ways. I love to write short simple poems that send a message, which I share with my followers twice a week on my WordPress blog. I enjoy the interaction they generate. BTW, I love the quote from Winston Churchill.04/12/2016 #2 Hervé SabattierI believe I am a poet. At least I try. But when I write poetry, it is not to escape anything. It is the opposite. It is to express my own, deep, genuine feelings and confront them to reality, to effectively make them materialized and real. Not to remain as a trick of the heart or of the mind. They may be original, different, distant, unique, whatever, but they are displayed in the air, not necessarily to be understood or shared, but to be placed in face of reality and truth. To be alive, real and existing.04/12/2016 #1 Ali AnaniPoetry is my only resort
To avoid the social extort
Where accountability counts heavily
I arrogantly ignore its vitality
In poetry, I can comfortably express with duality
At least you have an escape gate in poetry @debasish majumder View morePoetry is my only resort
To avoid the social extort
Where accountability counts heavily
I arrogantly ignore its vitality
In poetry, I can comfortably express with duality
At least you have an escape gate in poetry @debasish majumder But the question is escape to what? We end up facing realities. Escape may be the breathing period or pause period that we need to think. At least you are endowed with this being a poet and a great one too my friend. Close
- Producer30/11/2016Social Media – 5 Things that Don’t Work in 2016 and Definitely Won't Work in 2017Every business owner, entrepreneur and marketing manager know that things change quickly in social media. What works today may not work tomorrow and it’s almost certain that strategies will change next year. Here are 5 things that our team of...
Comments04/12/2016 #17 Pamela L. WilliamsWelcome Bobbie, you're off to a fantastic start with this post! Very helpful and constructive advice that we should all pay heed to whether we are here for business or just engaging. Truth; that I would rather have small number of engaging connections than a large number of followers that in truth adds more complexity to our social media presence.01/12/2016 #15 Mohammed A. JawadGreat precepts to embrace and move on!
To be in business, you got to learn by the statistics and attempt to offer by knowing the taste of your audience. To the point, next is how you create virtual reality to convey you message in a right way to the right audience.
- Producer23/11/2016The WaitSo you sit and you tell yourself it's gonna be alright. You will get past this phase. It's a trying time in our life and we need to wait it out. You tell yourself that you are strong and this cloud of testing will soon fade away and there will be...
Comments27/11/2016 #40 CityVP Manjit#39 If we are what we eat, we are also what we think and in this regard there is plenty of suggestions on how to get unstuck. The 7 things to remember when stuck by Allison Fallon serves as an example of the mental shifts available :
7 Things to Remember When You're Feeling Stuck
http://allisonfallon.com/stuck/27/11/2016 #39 Fatima Williams#38 Thank you @CityVP Manjit It's an inevitable truth waiting is a part of our life.
But I feel sometimes we get stuck in our cocoons afraid to fly and spread our beautiful wings.
I remember a story of how an impatient person who saw a butterfly struggling to come out of the cocoon tried helping it and that eventually lead to the death of the butterfly.
This waiting phase in the cocoon is sometimes required to collect the strength as you said that required to break out and fly.
Transformation is the fruit of waiting but lets not wait too much. 🤗🤗🤗🤗27/11/2016 #38 CityVP Manjit#37 I welcome moments of life which are a cocoon. In modern culture we treat cocoon as a euphemism for prison, but it is not that, the caterpillar is not a prisoner of the cocoon, but a transformation in waiting and we are not butterflies, we are are more than a transformation that is no bigger than our thumb.
Let me take the song by Milky Chance called "Cocoon" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ernVvrYH9vg so while his main lyric is "so lets go back to our cocoon" the context is still escape and not transformation. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/milkychance/cocoon.html If we identify with this song, we identify with escape and pain rather than transformation and privacy.
I do not offer this as a perspective to a single a person because my own cocoons are a source of personal liberation. I am not afraid of melancholy or sadness, for when grief comes I will participate in the process of grief, but when freedom comes, I can place that in a cocoon too - for that is a different kind of waiting. The best privacy is to close my eyes or enjoy time at home.
Whether it is waiting such as Van Morrison "Days Like This" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UUWkr4FUlo or I have to do what it is I must do for this thing called our work life and I can't open up my mind to you - there is something gestating in the waiting, there is something fermenting in the waiting, there is something good changing in the waiting. Waiting is a part of life.26/11/2016 #36 Deb LangeDear @ Fatima I resonate with the wait and the move. I wrote a buzz last week which was well received. I said there is a part 2. I know I have been putting off part 2 as I feel some pressure in myself to have it as well received as part 1, but maybe it won't be. --and maybe it will. I know incubation time is useful but I sense I wait a little too long and need to be bolder with my action in the world. Things are never perfect and are always perfect just the way they are. And can always be updated and improved.26/11/2016 #35 Ali AnaniPart 2
I have just responded to a comment by dear @Sara Jacobovici on my linked buzz and urged her to read this buzz. I also invite @Irene Hackett, @Deb Helfrich, @Deb Lange, @Max J. Carterr and the two Lisas @Lisa Gallagher and @Lisa Vanderburg to enjoy this great buzz and to contribute to the discussions.26/11/2016 #34 Ali AnaniDear @Fatima Williams- you are a greater writer, thinker and communicator. I read your buzz comprehensively, with great interest and enjoyed the flow of your ideas your buzz. You leave me with so much to think about. I just request you to read my last buzz and the two co (Parts 1 and 2) and you shall realize what I mean.
We are working on developing a formula for movement and we need your brain. I hope your time would allow you to visit.
Your explanation of the wait time, steps how to deal with it and highlighting the Waiting Step as the critical step leave me with much to think about.24/11/2016 #26 Fatima Williams#20 Ahhh @Deb Helfrich first of all I love you ! Can I say that I hope your love doesn't get angry with me LOL. I love your character, personality and the way you interact and share your thoughts. I am no longer looking at people like Steve Jobs for motivation. I just come here on beBee and connect with you amazing people and I'm more than Good ! Look at the lovely buzz @Franci Eugenia Hoffman wrote today. I am on TOP of the world Today !
" I Flourish on beBee " That's the word I would like to use.
Coming to the buzz I'm so happy you had something to take away from here that was my goal achieved. Stay Awesome and GET MOVING ( winks)24/11/2016 #23 Lisa GallagherSuch an honest piece @Fatima Williams. I think we can all get stuck in the 'wait phase,' from time to time. We do need to draw on something stronger than ourselves at times or from deep within. I thought of one more thing, guilt can also put people into 'the wait.' If we hold on to self-guilt too long, it will immobilize us. Life sure is a balancing act!
- Producer17/11/2016The Positive Side of Negative EmotionsI wrote a presentation on separation thinking in which I discussed our tendency to ask this or that such as is it the egg or the chicken? I wondered why not this AND that. More relevant questions are available that reinforce this separation...
Comments22/11/2016 #110 Franci Eugenia HoffmanNegative emotions are natural reactions that we need to cope with. Recognizing the cause of negative emotions can lead the way to deal with them appropriately. Ignoring them can eventually cause a downward spiral and even result in harm to others and ourselves.21/11/2016 #109 Ali Anani@Sara Jacobovici responded in a buzz to this buzz. What a great read Sara's buzz is. You may read it here:
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/developing-a-tolerance-to-negativity20/11/2016 #108 Ali Anani#107 I agree with you dear @Mohammed Sultan. Your comment is consistent with the quantum theory "When we consistently make certain assumptions about the bad things that may happen to us we trigger our negative emotions". When we focus only on negatives we develop the Observer Effect. Negative emotions help to stabilize positive emotions, but excessively reflecting on negative ones throw us out of balance.20/11/2016 #107 Mohammed SultanDear @ Ali Anani PhD.Thanks for sharing the output of your balanced emotion.When we consistently make certain assumptions about the bad things that may happen to us we trigger our negative emotions.Everything depends on how we view our external world.People with unbalanced emotion explain the bad things that happen to them in terms that are internal and stable.Thinking all the time of what went wrong is the moving sands of our emotions.It leads to giving up and prevent us from seizing opportunities because we think of punishment of failure(negative emotion) rather than the rewards for success(positive emotion).Fit and balance of our internal emotions should be done first before we align them with reason or with the external world.It also make sense to delay our decisions or meetings when we temporarily are flooded with negative emotion and become unable to balance them with reason.20/11/2016 #105 Ali Anani#104 You writing is packed with images dear @Lisa Gallagher. Having just read your beautiful buzz of today on "Relationships and Empathy", you proved to me that your words are poetic, rich in vividness, and draw images in my mind. You words are images and I wonder why you think it is hard for you to describe in words. For readers, I strongly recommend for you reading the buzz of Lisa. It shall be time well-invested and for you to know that my comment reflects reality:
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@lisa-gallagher/relationships-and-empathy#c1120/11/2016 #103 Ali Anani#102 @Lisa Gallagher- emotions and thoughts lead to actions. For every action there is an equal reaction in the opposite direction. That is why I find your comment so deep and informative, and especially this part of the comment "The more we put out to the universe, negative or positive, well it comes back to us". You do amaze me with how simply and clearly you express complex ideas.20/11/2016 #102 Lisa GallagherIt's amazing how negative emotions can over take the postive emotions @Ali Anani. I think you described some of the mystery behind them well. We can co-exist as long as our common core is one that comes from a good place. I think we aren't able to co-exist if one person is positive (for the most part) and the other is inherently evil. I've always believed that positive attracts positive and vice versa. The more we put out to the universe, negative or positive, well it comes back to us. Everyone has negative emotions and that's not a bad thing. It's when we allow those emotions to dictate our lives and treat others unjustly because we feel so bitter inside.20/11/2016 #100 Ali Anani#96 @David Navarro López wrote a beautiful buzz on the forging metaphor. Thanks @Max J. Carter for reminding us of this metaphor. To better understand this metaphor, I urge you to read David's buzz at the following link:
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@david-navarro-lopez/can-the-character-be-forged20/11/2016 #96 Max J. Carter#95 @David Navarro López I really dug the piece and thank you for sharing it. Bruce Lee said something to the effect to take what resonates and make it uniquely your own. That's what triggered in my mind as I read the part about Copy.
It's all been done before however there is always a way to express it that is unique to one's perspective and how one applies it to ones life
I like the metal forging metaphor as well as I use a simple philosophy of the sword has no master to illustrate that each is a living sword and the hilt is the mind and letting others have control over what and how you think allows them to weld you against whoever the choose.
Something ingrained in me by my Hungarian family and many family debates that looked like war was about to break out. I was taught if I couldn't put it in my own words I was not allowed to participate because until you can put it in your own words you have yet to live concept to find if it is wise for your life. .
It's never easy to look at oneself and ones past and see where one inflicted harm and own it and forgive oneself by changing ones behavior so they don't repeat the inflicting of suffering as a matter of habit as they keep on keepin on.20/11/2016 #95 Anonymous#92 No idea who gave you a -1, Max. Maybe an inexperienced user who does not know how it works, because your comment is full of wisdom.
I agree with your words "People fear changing themselves because then maybe they might have to take responsibility..."
Self awareness can be a very disgusting experience if you don't like what you see, and you don't have the guts to change it. But is possible, in every case.
Some time ago I wrote a post you might like, concerned to this: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@david-navarro-lopez/can-the-character-be-forged20/11/2016 #94 Sara Jacobovici#89 Thanks for clarifying your comment @Harvey Lloyd. I understand that the sarcasm can come from parenting experiences ;-) but..... objectively speaking.....that potential wisdom does exist and experiences with time does enable the realization of that potential.19/11/2016 #92 Max J. CarterWhy do we fear getting rid of the terms positive and negative when describing human emotion?
Let me see I can answer this.
We fear letting go of these abusive descriptors so we can avoid actually having to deal with the cause of the emotional response and own responsibility for actions that led to the emotion displayed.
We cling to these terms to avoid dealing with each other and taking responsibility for our actions and words by saying "They are being negative and I did nothing or said nothing to illicit that response, it's their choice. and they are being negative."
This is self delusional avoidance and why these terms are abusive to self and all ones.
This is behavioral psychology applied with out allowing personal identity in the form of the ego expression to distort the view.
To let go these ideas means a redefinition of self and the ego expression. People fear changing themselves because then maybe they might have to take responsibility for things they have done in the past and acknowledge the suffering they have inflicts and generally people like to avoid that as they see it as a negative experience and this increases their resistance to change.
- Producer18/11/2016How NOT to write a professional apology letterUnited States Army veteran Ernest Walker just went to Chili’s restaurant for the promise of a free burger.The restaurant showed its “appreciation” for his service by confiscating his leftovers, questioning his service credentials and ejecting him...
Comments19/11/2016 #5 Pamela L. WilliamsBrandon, Absolutely. The whole thing wreaked of insincere business-as-usual with the help of marketing and a lawyer. I hope Mr. Walker felt okay with the apology but this letter 'sucks rotten eggs'. Having sat in as minutes taker in corporate meetings I can probably hear the conversation;
It was just a meal, for christ's sake, what's the big deal, okay, how are we going to handle this? So-and-so, write a letter by so-and-so time and we'll meet again to review. Damn that manager for not handling this better; didn't we teach them how to confront bad customers? Do we need to hold another round of training sessions on how to properly handle disgruntled guests. Now, on to other subjects; what were the losses for the veteran give-away? How can we decrease the free meals, while still capitalizing on the 'community good-will' campaign?
No where are they referred to as human-beings, they are 'guests', in other words, walking stiffs with wallets.19/11/2016 #4 Harvey LloydHas it really gotten so complicated that when we make a mistake we can't just apologize? The letter looked like one written for the state of the union address. The irony truly is that even though the letter stated the values, clearly these values were not present in this situation. Restating them didn't make it better but rather reinforced the leadership's inability to perform at the customer level.
Maybe the leadership needs to apply to undercover boss?19/11/2016 #3 Brian McKenzie"Veteran" Status may not mean what you think it means. I did 15 years in the Reserves, all of my 9 deployments were 179 days, because at 180 days they have to issue benefits and a DD-214, anything below that was considered "ActiveDuty for Training" - neither the military nor an extremely large Retail conglomerate out of Arkansas consider me a 'Vet'. The one DD-214 that I could have "eaned" was from time in a country that we were never officially deployed to and never declared as one of our Forward Operations in the ever global expanding Shit Show of Whack-a-mole 'Anti-Terrorism' ventures.18/11/2016 #1 Susan RooksI agree with what you wrote here, @Brandon Marshall! What a damn shame on all fronts! Thanks for bringing this to our attention, and I hope that all other restaurants and service venues check their values and actions to be sure they're living up to what they say they believe.
- 19/11/2016The Difference Between Influencer Marketing and Advocate Marketer - Are the thoughts by "influential" on LinkedIn :helpful for working class....?
Link: LI article titled: "Time to ask an important question.." by Mark M-GTime to ask an important question...www.linkedin.com There are many 'LinkedIn' influencers. I (and you I'm sure as well) have seen their work,writing good and not-so-good posts. For me, too many of them publish posts that are not backed up by real...
Comments23/11/2016 #63 Don KerrI am very late to this party @Milos Djukic and I thank you for tagging me. Social responsibility as practiced by any corporation - social media or coal mining - is a tricky spot where one must, of necessity, try to find a balance between the realities of being commercially effective while contributed to the commonwealth of the communities we inhabit. Concerning LI in particular and Mark M-G's article, all I can think of is the observation that one shouldn't judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree. Li performs a certain function for a certain market. FB does similarly. beBee too. Perhaps collectively, if we utilize social media for social good we can all improve our lots. In my previous life on the corporate side we regularly acknowledged that we were operating a for-profit business. We were not, clearly, a social agency. That did not however excuse us from sharing our good fortune even if our CSR programs were targetted to activities of some relevance and relationship to our markets.23/11/2016 #62 Aurorasa SimaThanks for the tag, Milos. I don´t know .... Not a huge fan of the article that also does not back up the claim that LI influencers only cater to certain groups. The author is a life coach. I wonder how much of his time he spends on free service for the poverty stricken.
Looking at the number of likes the article received, I might be pretty alone with my opinion. If you´re doing business I see no wrong in catering to your ideal clients. That does not mean you can´t do good in your free time.
LI "Influencers" as I understand the concept receive preferred distribution and more attention. Some of them are able to influence change, through their work more than the title - other are not.
Does the title "influencer" that is merely a VIP tag come with social responsibility? Personally, I don´t think so.20/11/2016 #59 John Vaughan#58 As long as we're belaboring the topic, @Irene Hackett, the phrase "Let's do our best to..." is pretty much a textbook example of condescension. (i.e. Are we talking to three-year-old?)
I guess we could ask if Milos feels that "Pass the KoolAid" is language that violates his sense of intrinsic value. I've been communicating with him for a few years now and didn't get that sense. Maybe I just missed it.
In any case, distraction works as an antidote to insight. There will be no discussion of the fact that discussions on beBee can go VERY wrong a la the comment thread in https://www.bebee.com/producer/@john-vaughan/re-posts-pointers-and-hooks.
Nothing to look at here, folks. Just move along.20/11/2016 #57 John Vaughan#55
sarcasm: the use of irony to mock
condescension: an attitude of patronizing superiority; disdain
There's a difference, @Irene Hackett
The value is in the insight, which is sharpened and emphasized by sarcasm.
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@john-vaughan/drinking-the-koolaid20/11/2016 #56 John Vaughan#53 Then again, @Milos Djukic, beBee also still manages to have "THESE kind of discussions".... (https://www.bebee.com/producer/@john-vaughan/re-posts-pointers-and-hooks) Please review the comment thread for content, styling, "civilized" demeanor, etc. Compare the content of the article to the shrillness of the reactions... And perhaps notice how many of the commentators are 'ambassadors'
* Interesting side-note. I published the exact same article on LinkedIn. Even tho LinkedIn actually gets the brunt of my criticism in the article, the response from the LinkedIn community was measured and responsible. There were some decent insights about the topic of the article itself - not merely reactions to perceived criticism. Check it out: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/re-posts-pointers-hooks-john-vaughan
"It's still a work in progress" is about as politely as I can put it.20/11/2016 #52 AnonymousThank you very much @Irene Hackett, @Phil Friedman and @John Vaughan. Critical discussions and the confrontation of attitudes that are highly civilized are the only way to ensure further progress and sustainable development of this great social network. A people-centered leadership is what makes the difference here. Profit is then not only a reason, but also a byproduct. Advocate marketing is the only model that is applicable in the case of the social network.19/11/2016 #50 John Vaughan#43 Interesting dynamic between altruism & profit in this thread (#45, #46, etc) is the relationship between Best Practices (voluntary-ish) and Standards (mandatory-esque). At some point, when the opportune-Cooperation and the opportunistic-Competition sides find some common ground ... useful shit actually gets done. A nice-to-have becomes actual policy.
Thanks, @Phil Friedman and @Irene Hackett for kicking this one around19/11/2016 #49 Phil Friedman#47 Irene, I accept, respect, and indeed agree with everything you've just said. And I believe that putting it all out front during exchanges is, as you point out, exceedingly valuable. I also believe that the opportunity exists for beBee to differentiate itself from the other social media platforms and that there is great potential for beBee going forward, Which is why I have been arguing for a while now, that it the best approach is not to position directly opposite LI or any other major platform, but position as a completely new and different synthesis. I also do not for a moment question the Ambassador program, which I think is an entrepreneurial masterstroke, notwithstanding that I reservations about it being clearly understood for the for-pay marketing tool that it is by even most of the Ambassadors themselves. I mention this only because you refer to what you are doing for beBee, and not because I want to get into a discussion about Advocate Marketing and variants thereof. Thank you for speaking honestly and so clearly. I hope your weekend is a good one. Cheers!19/11/2016 #47 Anonymous#45 Thank you @Phil Friedman. I don't take your exchange as judging. Please know I carefully read all that you wrote in comment before responding. I have been in Board room meetings and/ or worked with executives from successful tech companies, such as Sun Micro Systems, Kayak, Facebook, NetIQ, Groupon, Go Fund Me. For the past 2 years I have been a management consultant in the IT area of a highly successful Health Organization of over 55,000 employees. Just pointing out that I have been a player in the hi-tech market for many years and have a strong sense of business acumen. It is no sin or praise that for-profit business is an investment tool. I want BeBee to make money, and I wouldn't mind getting a piece of it for the services I am performing. It is important and realistic to think about ways to invest that are aligned with one's values. And certainly it may not be the priority for the majority in business to be socially conscientious - but as an individual I will express and act according to my values. Doing my best to live in a non-compartmentalized way. I am a business woman with a heart, but I'm No Mother Theresa. I think BeBee has great potential if the focus stays properly harnessed, to offer a new way to do SM, if even only slightly different than the competition. The core mission must be clear and I think that is what we are trying to establish in these exchanges.19/11/2016 #46 Phil Friedman#43 --- Pt. II ---
Irene, this is not to express a judgment, only to bring to attention a fact. And you can say, "well, of course" all you want. But I have entered into discussion with many, many people who think the appellation "unicorn start-up" refers to corporations that are primarily pursuing goals in the area of social improvement. Cheers!19/11/2016 #45 Phil Friedman#43 I agree, Irene -- to an extent. If one reads carefully what I said, one sees that I neither said nor implied that social concern is always excluded from for-profit entrepreneurial activity, only that de facto it usually is. Buffet, Gates, Soros, Zuckerberg and some others have given truly huge amounts to social causes. From their huge personal profits. However, without taking anything away from them for doing so, I think we need to recognize that none of them live like monks or even Mother Theresa. I am simply in favor of being realistic.
You are correct about there being options. One of which is to create instead of a private, for-profit corporate entity, a non-profit entity with defined caps on the level of compensation which can be drawn by controlling interests who are also executives and management of that entity. And I suggest to you that adopting such an option would indeed be indicative of a primary interest in pursuit of the public good. In the absence of that, I am somewhat cynical about claims by entrepreneurs to be, first and foremost, interested in improving the lot of mankind.
I personally have no objection to anyone making a profit from honest business activity. Nor do I expect anyone to divert part or all of their efforts to social causes. If they do, or if they find a way to combine the two, so much the better. But let us not be fooled, for example, by companies who pledge a percentage of their revenues or profits to support of a charitable or social cause. The primary objective in doing so is not the betterment of society, but the generation of greater sales revenues. For I know of no private, for-profit that pledges anything other that a minuscule portion of its net profit to public causes, and even then such pledges are in pre-tax dollars, so cost only a portion of the nominal amount.
This is not to express a judgment, only to bring to attention a fact. And you can say, "well, of course" all you want. But I have entered into
- Producer05/11/2016Eleven Things That Create Resistance And Anger In Others (Free Excerpts)Stop starting conflict by eliminating these eleven conflict habitsConflict In Your LifeEleven Things That Create Resistance And Anger In Others (Free Excerpts)Summary: By eliminating these eleven anger provoking behaviors from your repertoire you...
Comments06/11/2016 #10 AnonymousI've seen and experienced a lot of negative - it is part of being alive. I've also seen and experienced a lot of positive - it's just as real! But in my experience, positive is better and that is where I choose to 'live'. You are so right @Dean Owen View moreI've seen and experienced a lot of negative - it is part of being alive. I've also seen and experienced a lot of positive - it's just as real! But in my experience, positive is better and that is where I choose to 'live'. You are so right @Dean Owen - life is too short! Close06/11/2016 #7 Harvey Lloyd@Robert Bacal the challenges of communications in such a noisy environment requires many approaches to get heard. A positive agenda for an outcome can be met with a negative writing style. Media today, in all forms, realizes that negative/positive or emotional engagement through taking a stand or showing a sad puppy will introduce a polarized audience on either side. But it is engagement.
Offering engagement within a seeking or wisdom style is too flat and lacks the roller coaster ride typical engagement. I enjoy watching the circus of writers and delineating what their agenda may be within the writing. This is my agenda, as we all have one.
You list seems accurate but is also listing the exactly what engages folks. This is a sad truth but we can see it in politics, social settings and clearly online. It would appear that just experiencing the human dynamic is not enough we must have a agenda/side, engage it emotionally and polarize. This will be our ultimate understanding 100 years from now.
Call it social growing pains. What happens when everyone has a microphone?06/11/2016 #6 Aurorasa SimaGood list, Robert. Thanks for sharing!
I believe 6 and 7 often come in combination with the inability to let go of things. It´s amazing how even someone speaking the truth can become annoying from the unfortunate combination of 6, 7 and what I´d like to call 6a).
Lucky are those who have access to this list.06/11/2016 #5 Mohammed A. JawadOh, sometimes confused communication makes others crazy and it spews sheer conflicts. Imagine the harm done when a person feels feverish with thoughts and ideas and publishes it on the media, in haste. Nothing in proper sense, but all like random expressions stitched with silly words. A vile gossip, a pungent back-biting or wandering notions can blotch one's feelings. So, let's think, censor and re-think before we publish anything. Instead silence is better than hasty viewpoints.06/11/2016 #4 Lisa GallagherI've learned to stay silent for quite some time now. I also learned it's OK to speak out against injustices if we are being attacked or see another being attacked. I will not attack the attacker or become like that of the attacker. I just wrote on @Franci Eugenia Hoffman View moreI've learned to stay silent for quite some time now. I also learned it's OK to speak out against injustices if we are being attacked or see another being attacked. I will not attack the attacker or become like that of the attacker. I just wrote on @Franci Eugenia Hoffman buzz that I'm learning a lot from those who've done this much longer than myself, beBee and it's team being such a great example. If I feel I may say something I could regret, I won't comment. I'm not here for controversy or to make enemies. There will always be a few who thrive on controversy, not sure why... maybe they are trying to draw more people in. Sort of reminds me of the negative stuff the media spews, people become addicted, it's like a soap opera and they keep coming back for more. Close
- Producer27/10/2016How to Tell if Your Customer is an IdiotAs business people, we always try to meet or exceed our customers' expectations. Whether we call them clients, customers, patrons, or guests is irrelevant here. They are the ones we depend on to keep our doors open. They are the ones we opened our...
Comments11/11/2016 #32 Wayne YoshidaThanks for the chuckle this morning, Paul. I thought the title had something to do with the VW diesel-gate thing. Anyway . . . on the other side of this "customer is an idiot thing," I had a friend who owned a camera shop. He went out of his way to accommodate strange requests from customers. For example, since his shop was near an international airport, people would come into the shop and try to buy things with foreign currency. Most shops would not take their money. Kurt would always take out his calculator, look up the exchange rate and let them buy whatever they wanted. He figured money is money, right?
He also had this twisted sense of humor. He would do this trick to young kids working a cash register when he bought something. He would pay in cash, and extend his hand for the change. He would accept the change, but kept his hand extended. Way too often, the cashier would look uncomfortable and hand him some more money. Yikes.08/11/2016 #31 Ben Pinto@Paul "Pablo" Croubalian Why any vegan would want to even eat at this establishment is beyond my understanding. A true vegan would be mortified at the mere thought of shared cooking utensils. Pulling out the cash from their Louis Vuiton canvas handbag, with real leather straps would be further proof of a Troll. A sign in the window stating "If you are Trolling just keep Strolling," would give a similar clue of not being wanted there as my social media quote of the same verbiage ending with the word Scrolling instead of Strolling gives.29/10/2016 #27 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian#26 CUSStomer... I LOVE it! The reality is that excellent customer service is a partnership between the provider and the customer.
I was once in a crepe house (the Creoes breton type... huge very thin dough filled with all sorts of good stuff). A woman asked the owner to make her crepes without egg. Note, crepe batter without egg is glue. When the owner explained that it was impossible, the customer flew into a rage. People do not control the laws of physics and chemistry29/10/2016 #26 Praveen Raj GullepalliLOL PC! Again! Delighted to hear of some lingering rabbity habitties... ;) Coming back to the crux of it all...am wondering if CUSTOMER (a sacred word that simply cannot be used in conjunction with any negative) is the right nomenclature to use here at all in the first place when the person doesn't fit the profile one bit! A cuss-tomer more like it, for lack of a better word!29/10/2016 #24 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian#22 It takes all kinds to make a world. Most vegans I know are not militant. They recognize that it's a choice they made. They may not understand how we can eat meat or wear leather. They let us be.
Come to think of it, if they were militant they wouldn't be friends, would they?
That said, I don't eat my extra-rare steak in front of vegan friends. It's a two-way street.29/10/2016 #22 AnonymousApart from the fact that some people take advantage of being your potential customer, and try to play the rol of God with every illogical requirement, just for the fun of making you twist under "their power", the thing goes to apocalyptic proportions if one mixes "customer" with "vegan" .
I had some disgusting experiences with vegan people, and what i really don't understand is that they claim they are vegan due to the highest human values, while forgetting that to be vegan is THEIR choice, pointing out that everyone who is not in agreement with them should not belong to the human race. For the same reason, in my opinion, this is a clear aggression to one of the most valuable rights of humans, that is, the freedom to choose. They choose a way of life and expect that the rest of humankind should do the same, just because they see it this way.
Under my point of view, there is no much difference between this behaviour and fascism.
I am not even trying to convince a vegan to eat meat. For the same reason, I don't want to be insulted by them because of their own choice.
As it uses to happen, some individuals belonging to a minority are so desperately willing to reaffirm their choice, that they feel compelled to convince the rest of us to follow their own choice by all means. It´s simply pathetic.28/10/2016 #20 Jerry FletcherPaul,
I once thought it was age that brought out the curmudgeon in people than I went to work in advertising. I quickly realized that age had nothing to do with it. It is a reaction to stupidity. It seems more and more that the world abounds in it. Excuse me I've got to get my oil changed...28/10/2016 #13 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian#6 LMAO, Randy. Yup, it is only in English. I guess I could have written it in French too. But, I have never met two French-speakers who could agree on phrasing. Come to think of it, I never met two English-speakers who could either.
Satire is difficult to write, particularly on an international stage. Don't sweat the shit lists.28/10/2016 #12 Alexa SteeleThanks for sharing a great story, @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian. I clicked over and read the original article, but I'm not sure I read it right. Did that whole fiasco really start because the customer couldn't be bothered to google "idiosyncratic" and assumed she'd been called an idiot? I think maybe we have a bigger problem than people feeling entitled...
- Producer27/10/2016Tips for Mastering the Art of Public Apology, or Any Apology for that MatterAs a follow up to my recent post, How to Speak Your Mind and Not Piss People Off, I thought I would move into the subject of what we public relations pros call “issues management” and the fine art of issuing public apologies. If you just want to...
Comments29/10/2016 #33 Ken BoddieMany handy tips here, Renée, for which I thank you. I have never been happy with repeated legal advice advocating never to admit wrongdoing. I suspect that many a situation can be defused by an appropriate apology rather than buttressed into a stagnant stand-off. I also like your suggestion to keep the client advised on proposed system remediation. Worth filing away as you say.28/10/2016 #28 Graham Edwards 🐝#21 I think one of the challenges to this, more than ever because of social media, is as it plays out in the world of public opinion to separate object from subjective... vile and narcissistic are subjective words and in my word only "objective" gets things done.
One persons apology is another persons "pandering"...
I sense the contrarian in me coming out... as we'll as a buzz. Again thanks for making me think.28/10/2016 #24 Aaron SkogenI just ran across this @Renée Cormier. Great advice! It's interesting that I see this now considering I don't believe in coincidences. About an hour ago I posted this: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/im-sorry-open-apology-aaron-skogen A very public apology. I don't normally post links to another post, but given the content, I thought it may interest you. Again, this is a wonderful reminder Renee, thanks!28/10/2016 #23 David B. GrinbergSuper awesome advice @Renée Cormier! You provide valuable lessons is crisis communications. To reiterate some points:
1) Remember that saying from Watergate: "The cover up is always worse than the crime."
2) Thus, don't wait to apologize for a major gaffe. Do so publicly, quickly and all at once. Shine a spotlight on it.
3) Swallow your pride and eat your "humble pie" ASAP. Avoid the drip-drip-drip effect of negative media coverage over multiple news cycles.
4) By apologizing, you will usually gain empathy and forgiveness. Meanwhile, covering up the problem will only cause it to grow larger -- like a snowball rolling down a mountain and getting bigger and it picks up speed.28/10/2016 #21 Renée Cormier#18 Thank you, Graham, for the thoughtful response. I think intention plays a major role in determining the gravity of any action. The other component, of course, is the consequences of the action. It is the difference between a serious transgression and an honest mistake. Honest mistakes are much easier to forgive. A person who has no regard for the consequences of his actions could be considered a rather vile and even narcissistic individual, and would therefore be much harder to forgive.28/10/2016 #18 Graham Edwards 🐝Ask always @Renée Cormier great insight and perspective. For me, if you tear way everything, an apology is the recognition of a mistake (or problem), which then more importantly begs the questions, "Is it really a mistake? Do you take ownership for the mistake? What are you going to fix the problem? and can I trust you not to make the same mistake?".
Apologies are a dime a dozen, just look at any Canadian or Politician... lol
There is some fascinating discussion in this post and I hope we can broaden the conversation...
How is a mistake defined and who defines it? (Actuaries make a living helping companies it). Who decides if it is an honest mistake or in fact a well calculated decision that unfortunately forums the light of day? Are mistakes defined by external consensus or driven by internal core
Then you have rectifying the mistake or problem...... recognition of the mistake and an apologize just isn't enough... I believe it is what is done then validates the honest recognition of the mistake and the apologize.
All your great points take us far but in the end the real question that has to be asked and part of the recognition and "apology spin needs to be, "What is the plan and the actions that show you are 'walking the talk' ?".
Thanks for making me think,
g28/10/2016 #16 Paul Kearley 🐝Very well written @Renée Cormier. I liked the plug for Dale Carnegie in there as well, but the one thing that is most important is this one: Give absolutely no excuses for your behaviour. You are bang on for that one. Nothing is more frustrating than someone apologizing and finishing with a "But...... " Thanks for this great piece which acts as a great reminder to us all.
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Comments30/11/2016 #55 Deb LangeI feel a great sense of freedom & autonomy on beBee to post, connect, add to ideas, and create new wisdom through the passionate connections with people who are being real and authentic. There is a sense of no 'Role" Playing and positioning as a self-serving game, here on beBee, rather there is a sense of true bouncing off each other's ideas to advance our knowledge and creativity.30/11/2016 #54 Jared WieseOriginal: Real content. Real engagement. One platform to beBee real.
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- Producer24/10/2016Communicating Effectively and Efficiently in the WorkplaceAre you aware of how actively you spend hours communicating verbally—listening, speaking, then reading or writing? May be eleven hours or less than that, but it’s not the amount of time you spend. The question is: Are you communicating well? ...
Comments24/10/2016 #8 Franci Eugenia Hoffman“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.” - Stephen R. Covey
I agree with @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian, miscommunication is even worse in written form. Miscommunication in an email or online can haunt you forever.24/10/2016 #7 Paul "Pablo" CroubalianI'm Thursday too.
Miscommunication is even worse in written form. The written word carries no inflection. Subtle meanings associated with such inflection go unnoticed.
Consider the sentence, "I never said she stole my money." Depending which word you emphasize, it will have 7 different meanings24/10/2016 #6 Harvey LloydThe post made me think of the proverb, "It is best to appear a fool than open your mouth an remove all doubt. Communications today seem to flow from some part of the brain that is merely a facet of words. Words or communications used to be a honorable commission. Unfortunately we cast out words at a steady pace while no knowing their impact for or against us.
One should consider their words carefully. In one sense our words can create a boomerang of circumstances, unless you are prepared to catch can be painful, the darker side is we begin to believe our own Bull Stuff.
Communications is all we have in this world that we own in a public forum @Mohammed A. Jawad.24/10/2016 #5 Mohammed A. Jawad#2 @Mohammed Sultan That’s true when companies, without proper planning and preparedness, takes up any potential project, and then finding lack of resources half-way gives lame excuses. I have seen people who’ve dreamt about a project instead of making factual analysis, and doing so they’ve wasted both—money and time. Thanks so much for your comments.24/10/2016 #4 Mohammed A. Jawad#3 @Ken Boddie Yes, the cartoon itself is a good depiction how a conversation can become vain and void when there’s no proper listening. This morning, on the way, a person asked directions to reach specific location. While I had explained half, he started to nod, and saying okay hurriedly he moved on. Should we call this human tendency or human error? Simply, it’s impatience to listen completely and shoot comments in the middle. By the way, thanks so much for valuable suggestions.:)24/10/2016 #3 Ken BoddieGreat cartoon intro, Mohd. So often the problem during verbal communication is that the person not talking is preparing for what he/she wants to say next, instead of actually listening. I've found that a good habit to get into, particularly when the discussion is between two people only, is to paraphrase what the other person has just said before you say anything yourself. But if you really want to impress a client (or potential client), then be prepared to listen, rather than commence a boring monologue. That way you are more likely to find out exactly what your client wants. The combination of paraphrasing and listening is a very powerful tool and often you can come away from a one-on-one conversation leaving a very strong impression but having actually said very little. Better to present a hint of magic with a confident manner, followed up by e-mailed info and/or an offer to make a later presentation, than bore the pants off your future client.24/10/2016 #2 Mohammed SultanDear Mohammed A. Jawad ,thanks for sharing your thoughtful analogy.The story of the three men riding the bus can repeat itself within some "insane" companies who think themselves as "heroes" and try to make the market reality fit with the notion in their heads.Also insane people try to make the world of reality fit what's in their heads instead of analyzing the facts and then change what's inside their heads to fit the facts.Communication is a reflection of our interpretation about the reality of others and sometimes we find it a lot easier to change the facts to fit our interpretations or opinions.
- Producer23/10/2016On Trees, Trolls, Trust and TruthFOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF A MASTER OP-ED BLOGGER...Preface: This rant is inspired by, and dedicated to my good friend, Jim Murray, whom I consider to be among the most masterful of op-ed bloggers — because he can piss you off while at the...
Comments31/10/2016 #189 Phil Friedman#188 Precisely, Mark. Although in reality the process will never be anywhere near as harrowing as you describe... because the majority of people you'll engage with are basically kind, and very few are outright mean. Most of the implied criticism you might feel will be in your own mind, not the minds of others. In business, I'd say if you aren't making some mistakes, then you arent making any decisons. In writing and publishing on social media, if you aren't saying some dumb things at times, then you're likely never trying to say anything meaningful at any time. Cheers!31/10/2016 #188 Mark AnthonySo , If I understand you correctly despite falling and stumbling , don't be ashamed , offended or embarrassed particularly if someone laughs or informs you of where you are going wrong or disagrees with your approach . Detach from those emotions and listen to the coach , learn more and master your art . That makes a lot more sense to me . However , this takes emotional and intellectual resilience and strength . And , as with Tennis sometimes you just have to do it again and again . If ones writing is not up to the best it can be then it should still be ok to write , get feedback and write again .31/10/2016 #187 Phil Friedman#186 Mark, I understand what you're saying. But think about what happens when you go to learn, say, a sport skill like tennis. You start by missing the ball, tripping over yourself, and general looking clumsy and somewhat stupid. But you separate --- or at least submerge --- your ego and soldier through until you get reasonably good at doing what you need to do to play tennis. If you can't do that, you will never learn anything. The key, as I see it, is understanding that what you say on social media today in a discussion is not the totality of who you are. Think before you speak, do your homework if necessary, learn some logic and practice a few skills having to do with writing. Before you know it, you can enter into discussions without thinking your entire being is riding on every comment that you make. Give yourself that break, and extend the same slack to others. That's what I mean about separating a person's ego from his or her opinion.31/10/2016 #186 Mark Anthony@Phil Friedman it's interesting you say "Learn to seperate the ego from the opinion" I don't believe ones ego canjust be separated from the other thought processes within our minds. It is a fundamental part of our thinking . For me it's a bit like saying , carve the turkey but just use the right hand and one implement , the fork .31/10/2016 #183 Mark Anthony#179 @Phil Friedman why would I choose to forgive @Gerald Hecht ,who is being so attacking, offensive and insensitive on a social networking site where we should all agree with each other, stroke each other, never critique, tell each other how much we love ourselves and others and just say....Great post ?31/10/2016 #177 Gerald Hecht#172 @Mark Anthony You shall (after I rip your scrotum off), be thrown into a lake of fire...for eternity where you will weep as a baby being stuck with fireplace pokers; struggling to breathe; although you will remain there for eternity; I will only stay until the show becomes onerous and boring; at which point I will retrieve your loved ones. I suggest that until then, you have a safe and joyous Halloween 👻31/10/2016 #175 Phil Friedman#170 Mr. Gibel, I wouldn't vote for Donald "Duck and Dodge" Trump even if he promised to make me an apprentice. He has clearly demonstrated that he holds in utter contempt many of the most cherished and important political institutions of this great nation --- principles like peaceful transition of power and the political independence of the High Courts --- all of which are the reasons why the Republic has managed to endure. He has demonstrated that he is an autocrat and megalomaniac of the first order, and so personally ignorant of the laws of this nation that he thinks, as a public political figure, he can actually sue people who said things about him he didn't like, during the election campaigns. I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but this is the first time in my lifetime that I felt there was such a clear and present danger to the political survival of the nation that I feel forced to actually cast a vote to keep someone out of the oval office. How about this for a slogan going forward: ONLY A CHUMP VOTES FOR TRUMP! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to get that off my chest.31/10/2016 #174 Phil Friedman#171 #172 Mark, to answer bluntly, no. My style and my voice as a writer are what they are. In my marine industry specific writing, one of my specialities as always been the interpretation of technical material for an educated, but non-technical audience. In that work, I try hard to use a much more straightforward style. And when I ghost-write for people and companies, I work hard at adapting to their needs and appropriate voice. But when I am "waxing philosophical" on social media, I'm partly writing for myself and living in my own thoughts, so ...what you see is what you get. I do recognize, however, that at times some of my sentence structure can be, shall we say, archaic. And I am working on that. Vocabulary is often another issue, but I assure you that I do not sit with a thesaurus trying to think up "big" words. And anyway I deny using big words, somewhat unfamiliar language at times, but not "big." Especially if you consider that a word like "ontology" actually replaces probably two entire sentences that would be required to convey the same meaning in "plainer" language. Thanks for asking. And cheers!
- Producer20/10/2016Trolls: Just Like Cockroaches But Much Easier To Control This is the second part of what very much appears to be becoming a series on op/ed blogging. “For bloggers, especially those who actually have an opinion about things, trolls are kind of like notches on the handle of your gun.”MeI have had a couple...
Comments24/10/2016 #39 Nicole Chardenet#35 I honestly don't know that we would do a better job than men, Jim; probably we'd find whole new ways to f**k it up. Yes, I mean that seriously. Which is why I favour a joint effort by men and women to hopefully do a less f**k-uppy job on the world :) Kinda like a Lennon-McCartney team. Paul tempered John's politicalism and John tempered Paul's sappiness.
What I think people need to think about, especially if they're lefty-ish, is whether racism or misogyny is actually within them as well. Really, it's not just for the extreme right.
On an only tangentially-related note, I would like to see the movie "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" remade with a Muslim man instead of a black man :)24/10/2016 #35 Jim Murray#30 @Nicole Chardenet. You know that's a very good point about misogyny. It parallels the racism that Obama's terms have brought out in Americans. Fortunately there are more people who are willing to support than obstruct. Let's just hope it's that way in the congress and the senate too. I'm a big believer in the notion that women should run every country in the world. I think their ability to cooperate with each other would create a very positive world. The downside, of course would be all that emasculation. LOL. You know what...you have inspired an idea for a post. Thanks.24/10/2016 #33 Nicole Chardenet#31 For many years now, hypocrisy has been the cornerstone of Republican "thinking". Rules and morality are for Democrats and liberals, not for Republicans and conservatives. Bill Clinton's a sex offender but Donald Trump is not. It's okay to hate on gays in public as long as you only schtup other men in private. Women are whores if they have sex but men are studs if they don't. Muslims are evil terrorists but crazy-ass over-entitled white men with guns shooting up shopping malls and kindergartens aren't.23/10/2016 #31 Aurorasa Sima#30 My only tweet that went viral in the last months was when I said something like "Oh, I thought Hillary is up for votes, my bad" when the Trump trolls tried to distract from the "locker room talk" video by calling Bill Clinton a rapist.
Wow .... I received a lot of hateful comments.23/10/2016 #30 Nicole Chardenet#29 Yeah, although I haven't been much victimized by it so far I figure my day is coming, esp. with a female President about to bring out all the very worst of America's misogyny. So, if Twitter doesn't do anything about their trolls, or the new AI doesn't work, I'm outta there.23/10/2016 #28 Nicole Chardenet#27 They're not at all rare, Aurora. They're in danger of destroying Twitter if the new AI to fight trolls doesn't work as much as expected. Frankly, I don't think anything with save Twitter except for Twitter deciding to get real about fighting these morons. That will start with requiring real names and ID. You could still call yourself "@Trumplover or @GoHillary or whatever, but it should be easily discernible who you actually are with your name and maybe what city you're in. First Amendment arguments don't apply when you're anonymous. Or at least they shouldn't.23/10/2016 #26 Nicole ChardenetThe issue isn't so much the sort of mild losers you describe but the really vicious ones who set out to make your life miserable. The ones who are violent and misogynist or racist or who just persecute anyone they don't like. They've actually been around for many decades, they weren't invented with the rise of the Internet as many think. Anyone who ever wrote any sort of positive piece on gun control in the pre-Internet media could be assured of vicious, crazed, violent responses including death threats against themselves or their families. However you feel about gun control (or not), there are a LOT of crazies on the pro-2A side. Both sides of the abortion debate are known for their verbally extremist crazies as well.22/10/2016 #23 Renée Cormier#22 You may also want to consider removing your comment from his post and removing the link to it that you posted here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs, but we don't have to give them more life than they deserve. I've read this person's stuff before. It isn't my kind of thing, so I never shared or commented or marked it as relevant.
- Producer18/10/2016Cynicism As PositivityOFTEN SEEN AS NEGATIVE, TRUE CYNICISM IS VERY OFTEN THE MULCH OF IDEALISM...Preface: I first published a version of this article on LinkedIn and beBee not very long after the Producer platform was launched. Since then, I've had some additional...
Comments02/11/2016 #55 Phil Friedman#54 No, Maria, I am not. But I am also not spamming your posts, and would appreciate you not spamming mine. If you have something legitimate to say about what I write, you are free to do so. However, since all you want to do is promote your very phony ja-ja, zum-zum pretend-to-love-the-world self-promotion, I am asking you to do it somewhere else than on my posts. Otherwise I will send you a bill for marketing and advertising services rendered... And lots of negative energies.02/11/2016 #53 Phil Friedman#52 Maria, the last time you commented on one of my posts you sent me, in your own words, "negative energies". That did not worry me because my hart is pure --- and I am protected with spells and an amulet by a friend in the Caribbean who is an Obeah woman. But I would appreciate it if you did not spam my posts with your phones good wishes, for you have previously disclosed your truly uncharitable nature. Negative cheers to you!20/10/2016 #51 John Vaughan#45 "... perhaps you should do something like what I've done ...." sez @Phil Friedman.
Thanks for sharing some examples of your past work, Phil. Very nice.
Actually, that's pretty much what I tried to do in Comment #41. It's is filled with links to my past work, including: a portfolio of clients, published articles, software, case studies, conference papers, explanatory articles, a gallery of creative artwork, "best practices" examples, explanations of process, university papers, (did I mention the masters in Ed Media - or the masters in Interactive Telecommunications?). It's all there at http://www.jcvtcs.com/. Well, actually, some more writings are at https://jcvtcsblog.wordpress.com/
Be my guest. Later, dude.20/10/2016 #50 Phil Friedman#48 #49 Thanks, Graham, for reading and commenting. And for the kind words --- which are especially gratifying coming as they do from a "contrarian". As an alleged cynic, I personally have great admiration and affection for contrarians, who likewise serve a valuable societal function, IMO. Keep the faith, and watch your six. Cheers!20/10/2016 #49 Graham Edwards 🐝#36 Thanks of the shout out @Phil Friedman... my working definition of contrarian is "You say black and I will say white" so we can have the discussion to ensure it's really black. Even if I know it's black, it's always good to pressure test it. lol
When it gets into the real world light you never know what it will look like.20/10/2016 #46 Phil Friedman#44 Yes, Praveen, that is very true. And the world needs all of them --- something I personally have never denied. What I do reject, however, is the notion that we should accept what we believe we cannot change. For as I've said, that is too often an excuse for not doing anything, not even speaking out about something that should not be. Cynics, in the true sense of the word, make people uncomfortable. And to my mind, that is their calling in life, and their function in the scheme of things. Thank you for reading and commenting, as you always do, with genuine insight and understanding. Cheers!20/10/2016 #45 Phil Friedman#41 Thank you for what, John? Pointing out I spelled a word wrong? Isn't that an OC action, for which no thanks are needed or appropriate. As to history, perhaps you should do something like what I've done to put an end to questions about my history, and for pissing matches. See below. :-)
"I'll Show You Mine, Then You Show Me Yours" ( https://www.bebee.com/producer/@friedman-phil/i-ll-show-you-mine-then-you-show-me-yours )
And ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/friedmanphil )20/10/2016 #44 Praveen Raj GullepalliSo, between how things ought to be (An Idealist's preoccupation) and how things are ( A Realist's paradise); we have the Cynics. Whose full time duty it is to compare and rant at this disparity:) And then, there are those, who quietly go about making the Ideal, Real! But it would be an incomplete world without even one of these different kinds! They all inspire each other, don't they dear Phil?20/10/2016 #43 Praveen Raj Gullepalli#26 Read my copy of it in my high school days Gerry...a quiet meditative read it felt...and spawned the love of one particular bike in my heart...The Royal Enfield. Used to see a couple of my uncles take that bike apart and putting all together again all by themselves over lazy weekends at home. They never heard of Pirsig. Lila was a poor follow up i felt when it hit the stands.I recommend Zen &The Art to my younger biker friends, hoping it would make them less hot headed and more contemplative on the journey ;)20/10/2016 #41 John Vaughan#40 The History Guy loves The Record. It is my Friend, @Phil Friedman. I had previous careers in older media (Graphics, Animation, Video, Writing http://www.jcvtcs.com/portfolio/index-newmedia.html) before Digital came along, so I kinda get it ... at least in my own mind. Also: Documentation Manager (http://www.jcvtcs.com/portfolio/dow-jones.html, http://www.jcvtcs.com/services/documentation.html), well-published and a conference "voice" during the Early Daze of Digital (http://www.jcvtcs.com/papers-tcs/index-papers-tcs.html). Have written literally hundreds of professional-grade documents for my 100+ employers & clients (http://www.jcvtcs.com/uxp-tasks/index-uxp-tasks.html). Blah blah blah...
In short: Yes, I "have a clue". I have a shitload of a clue, when it comes right down to it.
To your point: I'm well aware of "the correct editorial device". I'm also painfully aware that the technically-correct-but-stuffy "Elements of Style" are kind of dated - and occasionally inappropriate to this medium. Particularly an aggressively, self-righteously *casual* environment like beBee.
So I deliberately chose to forgo the 'proper' form and just skip ahead to the truth (It's spelled 'cojones') - without the pretense. A simple "thank you' would've sufficed.
Cheers!20/10/2016 #40 Phil Friedman#38 For the record, the correct editorial device to use when quoting a phrase that contains a misspelled word or other error is "[sic]" inserted in the quote immediately after the error. We print media dinosaurs know this... And a lot of other stuff about which digital natives haven't a clue.Cheers!20/10/2016 #37 Gerald HechtSomebody's hacked my account and is making my Profucer Pieces have different wordings--companies calling themselves "Russian banks" are screwing with my shares on google plus and stuff sorry Javier beBee and Juan Imaz but you've been compromised apparently and I've filed with Ft he FBI20/10/2016 #36 Phil Friedman#32 thank you, John, for reading and commenting. I think you agree that cynicism is often the necessary prerequisite to attaining clear vision, particularly on social media. Someone recently asked me if I didn't really mean "skepticism". I explained that a skeptic is actually a cynic without cajones.
@Graham Edwards 🐝 describes himself as a "contrarian". I am not exactly sure what he means by that, but I do know that he calls 'em as he sees 'em. Which is what cynics do. Cheers!19/10/2016 #35 Phil Friedman#33 Great to hear from you, Linda. Have missed your sensible contributions to the conversation back from the days of Writers4Writers on LinkedIn. Although I am not a beBee brand wrangler, I nevertheless welcome you to this potentially great platform. With a big hug back. Sent to you all the way to Colorado. Cheers!
- Producer15/10/2016A Mercifully Short Metaphorical Essay On Deepening Relationships In Social Media.My friend, and former client, photographer Michael Kohn, who is a very bright guy, posted an interesting quote from Malcom Gladwell in which he was referencing Facebook creator Mark Zuckerberg."Connection is the goal. The quality of that connection,...
Comments17/10/2016 #28 Javier beBeeThis is great @Jim Murray. beBee is working for getting better , deeper and longer business relationships. The most important thing is to have a clear focus on what to do. We will deliver the best user experience as possible. But beBee is buzzing because of our bees. Buzz on !17/10/2016 #25 Praveen Raj GullepallibeBee is the "next level" from my experience of it dear Jim. Would you agree? If FB explored, enabled and exploited connections at face value, a platform like beBee is the next level in the sense that it enables 'relationships'...deeper, more value-based engagement and greater value-for-time spent on it. Among other things of course! We sure are havin a whale of a time here anyway! ;)16/10/2016 #19 Wayne YoshidaThanks Jim --- all users of social media platforms - meaning all of us - are "products" that are bought and sold. Any platform is useless without user input, which becomes content for the platform - and feeds the profile engines so we can be bought, sold or traded.
Something to think about when a platform offers "premium" memberships for some price - who really benefits?
What about platforms offering something for us users/creators of the content? Instead, they give us - more advertising and profiling and pop-ups and registration forms to fill in before viewing content for folks who want to sell us something.
Maybe this will change . . . .16/10/2016 #14 Jim Murray#12 @Claire Cardwell 🐝...They are indeed a distraction. Every time they make a noise people respond Like Pavlov's dog. I have a flip phone I treat like a home phone. I pick up messages just like back in the day. I only text my kids on my Ipad or computer because it's hard to reach them any other way.
- Producer14/10/2016Toxic and destructive people and why I am "missing"The last and next few days are so busy that I cannot spend as much time as I would love to and honor your valuable and often thought-provoking honey. I am doing my best. The last days, I also felt a bit sad and troubled. It happens to the most...
Comments16/10/2016 #58 CityVP ManjitWhen I look at cults I often see the empath attracted by the narcissist because the narcissist has learned to use emotional intelligence findings about human beings as a manipulation of highly empathetic human beings. Later in such groupings where sexual abuse is discovered within the group, a state of denial may exist except in those empaths whose eyes have been opened by pain - that who they trusted and placed their face in was an incarnate of evil, a monster of a human being.
This is where "real life" is about awakening to truths, while facing those truths must not make us lose faith in the idea of humanity. The cold blooded human being will treat emotion as a manipulation rather than a divine gift and those that are most human have emotional energy flowing in abundance - and when that energy is betrayed, when it has been debased and corrupted, they suffer a further emotional wounding - a wounding of trust and faith in people that was most natural to them.
For those who advocate simply forgiveness for emotional scars that will never heal, they are advocates who do not possess high emotional resonance and sensitivity to life that is a felt experience and more importantly they have not experienced even a fraction of 1% of the pain felt by those whose emotions are remain human skin rather than a suit of armor.
This narcissism is just one example of the toxic. David Foster Wallace faced a cynical and self-interest filled world that he never came to terms with, http://pangeaprogress.blogspot.ca/2015/10/david-foster-wallace-on-toxic.html In facing the real, our memories repeat many times, while the offender only needed to cut us once and often not even realize the wound so inflicted.15/10/2016 #51 Mamen Delgado#50 Yes Aurorasa, to admit our potential to grow and the willing to change is the first and essential step to a new life. I have travelled that road, I'm not the one I used to be, so I do know that change is possible as you say at the beginning of your email. It's a bit easier if we find a reason, a powerful reason, to go through that journey.
I found that reason in my oldest daughter. Powerful enough to swim down to darkness and deal with my inner little girl.
I was lucky, still I am, because Life gave that beautiful opportunity to live another life in this one. But not everybody has the chance, or finds his/her POWERFUL reason. And no one can do it for them.15/10/2016 #50 Aurorasa Sima#49 I bet you´d be a great coach with your love for people and live. That was not a coaching client, he offered to do some other work for me. You´re right once more: the people who would need you most will not come.
It´s positive people that admit their potential to grow and are willing to change.15/10/2016 #49 Mamen DelgadoI really admire your job @Aurorasa Sima, some friends tell me I should have studied Coaching or something related to Emotional Therapy but I always think I couldn't deal with negativity and with people I see clearly they don't want to change, it's easier for them to keep in the dark side or in the "poor of me" way of being.
By the way... The best cheese for pizza is clearly grana padano!!! LOL!! 😂15/10/2016 #47 Aurorasa Sima#46 Yes, there is. I told a negative person, respectful and polite, that I do not want to work with them. They then flipped out and started actions that come close to criminal offenses. You´d pity them if they were not targeting you.
It´s just not nice to see crazy up-close or to be forced to deal with negativity. These people are obviously not well. But they overstrain my patience when it comes to my willingness to help.15/10/2016 #46 Robert CormackWe all deal with destructive people, Aurorasa, even when we think we've made "friends." A few years back, I took a serious look at my friendships over the last 40 years. Some have remained around that long. What surprised me was how many had taken our relationship for granted all that time. So I took a lesson from someone who said, "Sometimes even the best of friendships need to be laid to rest." The ones I decided to "lay to rest" probably don't even know. If you don't call them, nothing happens. But I also discovered I don't miss them. I made room for other people, some good, some bad. I've actually made some friendships that are far more rewarding. My novel would never have gotten done without the help of what I'll call "new friends." They've shown themselves to be smart, loyal and incredibly insightful. There's always hope, in other words.
- Producer07/10/2016CLIQUESome of us feel isolated sometimes. It’s true. I went through many Research Papers to study the ramifications of feeling that way recently. To simplify the results, it does not mean there is something wrong with you. You may be an introvert. You...
Comments17/10/2016 #57 Lisa Gallagher#53 Hi @Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015, I think you misunderstood the context of my comment, " I don't like cliques but I do enjoy like minded people (however, I'm not saying I don't find interest in others who are very dissimilar from me as well). I learn from people who I may not have a lot in common with. I tend to interact more with those who share similar interests, core values, morals and ethics."
I interact with many who do not share the same interests as me and I have learned a lot from them as well. One example of many- I have a friend who owns a very large horse farm. She breeds, shows and yes sells horses. I like horses but I'm not interested in owning a horse farm. I do however, love her stories and have deep respect for her hard work.
As for real life, my statement still stands, I do enjoy like minded people and when I use that term, I use it broadly. Many of my friends are like minded yet very diverse and we all differ. I guess it's the core values of people which draw me to others. I think being a leader differs from thinking on terms of life in general and who we may be attracted to. As long as a person is genuine, shows great respect towards others and has a fairly open mind, I tend to be drawn towards those types of individuals. :))14/10/2016 #47 Lisa Gallagher#28 Thanks @Franci Eugenia Hoffman, I just shared that guide with a new recruit! She's joining before the weekend is over. @Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015, you made some great points about cliques which have been around forever. I don't like cliques but I do enjoy like minded people (however, I'm not saying I don't find interest in others who are very dissimilar from me as well). I learn from people who I may not have a lot in common with. I tend to interact more with those who share similar interests, core values, morals and ethics. I think that's what we tend to see more of on beBee, which is why it's called Affinity Networking and many people who interact a lot together have found common ground which is why Affinity Networking is great, there's something for everyone. I would never want anyone to feel under-valued, we are all human and we all count. Thanks for this!14/10/2016 #46 Phil Friedman#41 Karen Anne, so you know, I cited this post in a comment thread at
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@friedman-phil/with-a-little-help-for-my-friends View more#41 Karen Anne, so you know, I cited this post in a comment thread at
where I believe it is particularly relevant and enlightening in the context of the discussion. Thank you for articulating the issue so clearly. Close14/10/2016 #42 Brian McKenzieTo keep my sanity, when I am not briefing or writing about the coming war, I teach English to local students. They are 13 - 17 years old. They all knew the word and the remaining time of the class we talked about French words that America has borrowed and installed. It was a fun class13/10/2016 #37 Don KerrHi @Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015. I am a little late to the party on your very fine article. As the "cynic" who interviewed @Aurorasa Sima (although I did not know that I had been granted such a title) I found your piece both insightful and illuminating. I don't think I have experienced the clique phenomenon on beBee but that may just be because I am too gormless to notice or perhaps too cynical to care. My fervent hope is that this platform, as it matures, will allow for genuine affinity and while permitting those with a passion for kittens to converse enthusiastically and others who revel in challenging conversation can also find a home and where we can even run into each other occasionally when we find unexpected common ground (distinct from all-encompassing like mindedness. Thanks for doing this and to the many bees who have further educated me with their comments.13/10/2016 #36 Phil Friedman#35 I understand your feelings about this, and commend you for having the grit to speak out about it. I agree with you about the impression that is generated by some apparent groups of mutual appreciation bees. For they congregate into groups based on "like mindedness" rather that simply on commonality of interests. However, such may appear more distinctly to a newbee such as you seem to consider yourself, who may see it as exclusionary. Whereas I see it more as a tyranny of sweetness that turns mean at times, should someone dissent from what is seen as the party line. It is my experience that those who pay the greatest lip service to being open are often the most closed in groups. And those who wear their kindness on their sleeves, the least caring in reality. I would add that I think it a mistake to seek "acceptance", and that preferred path is to let your writing speak for itself. IMHO.10/10/2016 #33 Phil FriedmanKaren Anne, kudos for this solid, thought-provoking post. The question of cliques and the potential effect they may have going forward on a relatively small (compared to LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter) platform is one, I believe, well worth reflecting upon. As I see it, there are and will always be cliques on social media sites. Some are benign, some are reminiscent of middle school mean-kids groups. But it's especially important for beBee to consider because the platform is structured by a concept of "Affinity Networking", which might seem on the face of it to encourage formation of such groups --- even though, in fact, it doesn't.
I hear repeatedly about facilitating the gathering of "like-minded" people into hives, and I would like to suggest to you that is a bad choice of words. People on beBee are gathering into groups on the basis of a commonality of interest(s). That is not the same as being like-minded. For example, I am a member of a group of four writers who met in person, found they had a commonality of interests, and formed the BeeZers hive. But not because the four of us are "like-minded", but precisely because we differ significantly in our ideas and opinions, and revel in those differences.
The issue of cliques, however, is not the same as some people facing comments about bad grammar or naive mistakes in navigating and posting on the platform. Those kinds of picayune comments are just rude. The real question, to my mind, is whether any groups are growing on beBee that are wannabe elitists and exclusionary. And whether there are groups exhibiting intolerance for the ideas and opinions of others, and bullying. I am very interested read comments on that. Cheers!10/10/2016 #32 AnonymousI like this article @Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015. Thank you.
"Can one individual’s social media activities, meaningful and honest or pointless, impact a multitude of other minds significantly? The simple answer is, yes. “Dance with the one that brung ya”. Did you know that the same, rather poor grammar rule, also applies to social leadership and even at social media?" - from "You Are a Social Leader? The Butterfly Effect", LI long-form post, Published on June 30, 2015 (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/you-social-leader-butterfly-effect-milos-djukic?trk=prof-post)10/10/2016 #31 Pamela L. WilliamsKaren, this is a very interesting topic and I like the research you performed.
Maybe its because I have never been part of an 'in' crowd that I am not seeing what you see.There are writers I would go to regularly because I like their work, enjoy reading their posts. I don't feel like I'm part of their 'clique because I do this. I wish I had enough time in the day to read 10 times more than what I do.
What is disturbing to me is that I've noticed over the last few weeks as this subject has been repeatedly raised: I'm not reading what I love, and I'm actually avoiding them. I do search for new writers and have found several in both English and Spanish but what am I really accomplishing? What this has done is isolate me from what I like and enjoy on social media.
So what is the answer; 1. We all become isolated out of fear of a 'clique' association? OR 2. We enjoy social media for why its here; to meet people who interest us. I have to tell you; I miss my go to writers, and that is just wrong on all counts.
I am open to helping anyone that needs my help to navigate beBee, I enjoy 'showing off' the site. I just want to be one happy buzzing Bee.10/10/2016 #30 John White, MBAThank you for the most excellent post, @Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015. One of the things I like the most about beBee is that I have met so many wonderful people from all backgrounds, nationalities, and professions from all over the world. There is no way I would have met them otherwise. It's been an amazing experience. Buzz on, Karen!09/10/2016 #28 Franci Eugenia Hoffman#25 I have another suggestion.Those that you want to recruit, ask them to let you know if and when they join. Then, let them know you will introduce them when they join. I believe this makes new bees feel welcome and helps break the ice. You can also include a link to @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian's Cheat Sheet or one of beBee's how-to links to get them started.
Here is the link to join http://blog.bebee.com/en/bebee-guide/step-by-step-guide-to-register-on-bebee/, and linkies can copy/paste their profile info on beBee to get started.09/10/2016 #26 Donna-Luisa Eversley@Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015... interesting topic. I believe there will always be cliques once it's an open forum, as folks gel differently. It's only bad if negative behavior are perpetuated. The nice thing about social media is choice. I seen the world mirrored in this internet stratosphere, both good and not good. My advice is always, in any forum, be aware of environment and do not change who you are to fit in...the world has a place for all of us...
Great post.08/10/2016 #24 Franci Eugenia Hoffman#22 Hi Karen Anne, thank you for thinking of me as your stabilizer and I am sincerely glad you feel that way. ;-) Your comment makes me smile.
To recruit new bees, I use my WordPress site as an ad site for beBee. I set up my Twitter and Google sites with beBee logos. I also try to pull from LinkedIn. And in fact, I am posting a Jim Murray beBee graphic on LinkedIn every day.
Concerning videos, when you are in Producer – underneath the title, the video button is in between the image and quote buttons. I have only used it for YouTube videos so far.
Here are some links that will help you:
Here are some experts: videos – Donna-Luisa Eversley and Lisa Gallagher; Recruiting - positive posts and beBee graphics – Jim Murray; Twitter – Paul “Pablo” Croubalian; Featuring hives - me
Some of my ideas:
My Twitter home page - https://twitter.com/riccikeeper
My Google page - https://aboutme.google.com/u/0/?referer=gplus
My WordPress site has beBee references beBee in several areas plus I include a beBee blurb in my once a week post. https://amanpan.com/
I hope this helps and let me know what else you may need.
For some reason, I can't get names and links to highlight. 🙁
Make it a great day! 🙃08/10/2016 #21 Vincent AndrewAs someone from Asia, more specifically South East Asia, I find bebee dominated by English-speaking people perhaps because of the hives I've joined and the people that I've followed. The honey that I've bothered to read are high quality, just like yours @Karen Anne Kramer ~ CNN Women Leaders 2015. Do I feel excluded? Well, I've been able to post some experiences here and they get some engagements in views and comments. It's not bad considering I've been on this platform for only four months now. I just think it's important to engage with honey producers that appeal to you because they have something important to say in my view. And you know what - I've tried engaging with Spanish bees by using Google translate to get a gist of what they are saying - and they responded and I think I'll do more of that!08/10/2016 #20 Franci Eugenia HoffmanCliques seem to follow us through life, don't they? Or do we follow them? I feel there are cliques on beBee, as well as everywhere else. I don't care for cliques. I'm not saying I don't like to be included but I feel there is a difference in being included as opposed to belonging to a clique. In other words, I don't like to see people excluded unless they choose to be.
I follow people that I find interesting and likeable and not because they are "popular". I got over that in high school. From my POV, we should just be ourselves and not be concerned about cliques and what other people think. Your buzz, Karen Anne, is a necessary one and deserves a spot in the beBee guidelines relating to respect.
I feel if someone doesn't like me, then that's their problem and not mine. Life is too short to worry about it.
- Producer07/10/2016Building Engagement on Social MediaHOW WRITERS AND BLOGGERS CONNECT WITH READERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA... I've been researching and writing an article for Samantha Bailey's LinkedIn group for Group Owners, Managers, and Moderators on the relationship between engagement and initial exposure...
Comments09/10/2016 #55 Phil Friedman#52 Pt II --- Michele, Thank you, Michele, for your insight and kind words. Perhaps, if enough of us who understand the elements of authentic intellectual exchange can find each other, we can build a refuge within the increasingly stultifying wave of honey sweetness for those who actually give a damn.
See @Jim Murray, @Don Kerr, and @Kevin Pashuk, my fellow BeeZers, I've gone and done it again. Poked the honey bear in the eye. Ah, well...Cheers!09/10/2016 #54 Phil Friedman#52 To quote you, Michele, "I found out early on that the toughest comments came from those who cared most." BINGO! and not just because it is something I've repeatedly said myself. Rather, because it is true.
My good friend, Prof. @Milos Djukic, speaks of "success at social media", that concept is both a snare and a delusion. For the predominating concept of "success" in the Land of Digital Exchange is popularity... And that goal will always drive Insipidipity.
We may not always be able to discern "authentically" meaningful interchange, but we can damn well recognize pro forma when we see it: Comments made on articles without reading them. Generic positive stroking that could apply in any situation to anybody and anything that might be said. Constant unreflective exchanges of mutual admiration among small cliques. Unremitting adherence to an ethos of shallow sweetnessithunt aggre@Don Kerrwho dares to step off the well trodden path of Social Media Muzak. Cont... Pt II09/10/2016 #52 Michele Williams@Phil Friedman, @Milos Djukic at the risk of making a pro forma positive comment, I have enjoyed your thoughtful and respectful exchange in comments 41-50. In academia, no scholarship is perfect. I found out early on that the toughest comments came from those who cared most. While there should always be room for growth in understanding through debate and disagreement on beBee, we should not lose the expressions of joy that beBee elicits as people read, watch and listen to wonderfully diverse posts. I am not sure that we will ever be able to disentangle joyful responses to new topics and ideas from subtle asks for reciprocity.09/10/2016 #51 Anonymous#50 @Phil Friedman, The fear of failure and irrelevance is a very common and widespread phenomenon in social networks. You never know whether a positive comment is made only pro forma or not. A targeted interaction is a crucial one and also a willingness to understand that we are different. Only then we can help and improve each other. I will repeat again something that I wrote a long time ago:
"I'm an imperfect person with a bunch of weaknesses. What makes us unique is not our professional successes, social media itself or other trivia. Professional success in social media is a result of our humanity and willingness to recognize what is important and that's nobility. Not only humanity and nobility directed towards our family, but also towards others: "little"- great people on social media, with all its weaknesses. With such a person, a real professional, every aspect of professional or non- professional cooperation is always possible and fruitful. The basic characteristics of such a person are: 1. Clear personal attitudes, 2. Skillfulness, 3. Knowledge and imagination , 4. Desire to learn and improve, 5. Personal integrity, but ALSO 6. Gentleness, 7. Unpretentiousness, 8. Unobtrusiveness, 9. Willingness to help, 10. Willingness to say sorry and 11. Willingness to answer boldly and to be corrected" - from "What Makes Us Unique on Social Media", LI long-form post, published on December 28, 2014 (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-makes-us-unique-social-media-milos-djukic?published=t)09/10/2016 #50 Phil Friedman#48 The only thing in this case to fear, Milos, is fear itself. There is an important point, however, that I would like to emphasize. It was highlighted by remarks made by Nathan Lowell. True engagement is not achieved by likes and comments that pass back and forth in the night like trains on separate tracks. True --- or I suppose we might say authentic --- engagement happens only through interchange, that is, discussion and mutual reflection either as a result of disagreement or an intuition that some idea or opinion is worth examining and expanding and growing.
I rarely give advice about publishing on social media, but here is something for (pardon the expression) "NewBees": To build engagement, you must not only answer your reader comments, but you must do so by actually reading those comments and answering with a reply that is commensurate with, and speaks to the point or points the reader is making. A reply which also demonstrates clearly that you have read their comment and value it. cont... Pt II09/10/2016 #49 Phil Friedman#48 - Part II - @Milos Djukic
I try always to do that, although I have to admit that my manner is sometimes misunderstood. Here is the thing. I am serious when I say that I would rather receive a critical comment that shows someone has actually read and is responding to what I have written, than a positive comment that is made only pro forma. So even if I am arguing with someone, it should not be inferred that I do so because I do not value their input. Indeed, I am personally less likely to argue with someone whom I don't respect (which is why I have taken to ignoring certain trolls who follow me around), than I am with someone whose ideas and opinions I do respect.
That is why I will go 'round and 'round with you, and @Gerald Hecht, and the BeeZers, and John White, MBA and David Grinberg, and so many others whose opinions I find challenging and stimulating --- even if I ultimately do not agree with them. And why I am at such pains to point out ad nauseum the importance of allowing for, and defending dissent and disagreement on social media. Cheers!09/10/2016 #47 Anonymous#44 @Phil Friedman, very true ("We demonstrate the potential for being friends and comrades, whilst disagreeing about many things - Phil Friedman). Despite numerous disagreements and agreements, I believe that you and I are "like-minded" people. What's really common is not easily explainable. Perhaps an awareness of our own ignorance :)09/10/2016 #46 Anonymous#45 I understand your attitude @Phil Friedman, but for me science is nothing more then the collective dedication to finding truth. It is about influences which will not undermine or compromise the democratic tendencies of modern science through any common type of manipulation. Life coaching "gurus" are definitely excluded. I certainly agree with you, there are a lot of substance that is between and currently not so easily explainable by conventional science.08/10/2016 #44 Phil Friedman#42 Milis, I did not intend to say or imply that you and I are "like minded" about anything other than being serious about writing and free and open expression of ideas and opinions. And that we demonstrate the potential for being friends and comrades, whilst disagreeing about many things. Cheers!08/10/2016 #42 Anonymous#41 @Phil Friedman,l We are old friends and "opponents".This will remain so forever, just like fractals. The art of agreement and disagreement. Dualism? Rather not, probably self-similarity. Have we forgotten serenity? LI days and now beBee! beBee forever.
"WE, should only mean that like-minded people are united in the aim of ensuring universal prosperity. Some will say that this is an illusion. The reverie needs to find its way into reality. Those who do not understand will miss not only the “biggest opportunity“ - innovation, but also an opportunity to broaden their views." If I write carefully, I will also reduce the chance that my words are misunderstood, misused or taken out of context by someone. If I follow my intuition in writing, I will not be better to everyone, but certainly to myself and also to some precious self-similar people. - from "I'll be Back, Innovation in Self Leadership", LI long-form post, published on May 5, 2015 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ill-back-innovation-self-leadership-milos-djukic?trk=mp-reader-card
Dr. Robert Cialdini and 6 principles of persuasion by Tom Polanski
http://www.influenceatwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/E_Brand_principles.pdf #4008/10/2016 #41 Phil Friedman#40 Now, Nathan, I welcome you to the fellowship of serious writers on beBee. I own a LinkedIn group, Writers 4 Writers, dedicated to interaction between serious writers, although not necessarily writers about only serious topics, and certainly not overly self-serious writers. But LinkedIn pretty much destroyed our ability to control the membership of the group and keep our often candid discussions private to the members of the group. So we don't go there much anymore. So I guess now we try to carve out some Affinitized territory on beBee, notwithstanding that we don't yet have all the tools to do a good job of that.
Anyway, concerning engagement and influence. I agree with you that true engagement is more than just a comment. Engagement involves, I think, a back and forth exchange and consideration of ideas and opinion. Which is harder work than most social media natives, with attentions spans of gnats, are willing to expend. Which leaves you and me, and the BeeZers, and a few others, including but not limited to @Milos Djukic and @Gerald Hecht. Which is probably okay, as I think we'll eventually draw more comrades from LinkedIn.
As to influence, I have neither much nor much to say. Except if helping you sell some books will save you from going back to teaching grad school, as a defrocked and recalcitrant university teacher myself, I am prepared to do what I can to prevent your descent into intellectual hell. If any of that makes sense. Cheers!08/10/2016 #40 Nathan Lowell#39 True, you didn't mention influence. Influence is more important to me than engagement. As a writer, I need people to buy my books or I have to become a barista or fall back to teaching grad school. Engagement is good because it helps to foster the relationships that can lead to influence, but I've strayed from your thesis.
I'm with you in that engagement doesn't require a following. It only requires one person to respond in a meaningful way. You've achieved engagement with this post. The question becomes "Now what?"08/10/2016 #39 Phil Friedman#38 Thank you Nathan for commenting. I understand what you're saying... although I don't remember myself saying anything about Influence. Of course, true engagement is difficult to judge and measure, but that is not at issue here. What is at issue is whether the development of a following is prerequisite to the generation of engagement. You also make, I think, a good point about needing to distinguish between interaction from engagement, but I think in doing so, we will simply end up redefining the commonly used word and not really developing a new or different concept. A bagel by any other name is still a bagel. Cheers!08/10/2016 #38 Nathan LowellThe Million Follower Fallacy is alive and well. I think the biggest issue lies in conflating three related terms - interaction, engagement, and influence.
Take Klout for example.
Klout claims to measure influence by using engagement as a proxy for something that is really difficult to measure in social spaces. Much true influence happens outside of the social space and gets instantiated when somebody buys a product or service. The problem is that engagement is also difficult to measure because the responses need to be parsed. A comment "FIRST!" isn't engagement. It's noise. Counting comments as a measure of engagement gives only a very rough approximation without taking into consideration what the comment actually says which is difficult to automate. So what happens is that they use interaction as a proxy for engagement because interaction is easy to measure.
The net result is that people conflate interaction with engagement and engagement with influence without actually understanding what each of those things is or why generalizing interaction onto influence is dumb.
Some interesting insight on this comes from some research from You Followed My Bot - http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/421708/10/2016 #37 Phil Friedman#35 Jim, it's Friday evening poetry time:
There once was a man from Nantucket
Whose sleigh was a rickety bucket
So old when he tried to
Take his family for a ride,
He gave up and sighed loudly
Oh, f#%k it!
Of course, what you say is both correct and wise. The genius in the concept of Affinity Networking on beBee is that everyone can potentially find a place for him- or herself. There are people on the platform who see it as a forum for digital socializing. Like being in one of the original Chat Rooms or groups. I personally don't object to that, although I believe (and want to be able to say) that I think there is a higher and better use for social media. And leave it to others to decide if they agree or disagree. That is the essence of free expression of ideas and opinions.
And BTW, I think you nail it when you point out the fact that to succeed beBee needs to differentiate itself from the other platforms, and certainly avoid devolving into a weak shadow of Facebook --- which is all socializing. Cheers!
- Producer06/10/2016I Don't Get No Respect!!!Rodney Dangerfield made a great living by claiming "I don't get no respect!".His typical one liners included such quotes as: "When I was a kid my parents moved a lot, but I always found them." "I could tell that my parents hated...
Comments07/10/2016 #37 Jared WieseNice work, @Kevin Pashuk. I can respect it ;)
I loved your Golden Rule essence:
"When I show respect... I find that the respect I so innately crave is returned. Amazing how some things are so simple, yet so difficult."
Yes, another of life's paradoxes.
I wonder what the world of respect would be like if we applied the Platinum Rule? One might see it as the right thing to do, Karma, etc. Forget the X or Y chromosomes!
All the Buzz, -Jared07/10/2016 #36 Ken BoddieRodney Dangerfield's quotes and Aretha Franklin's R-E-S-P-E-C-T are great ways to illustrate this post, Kev. I used to listen to the former on the Qantas flight comedy channel, and who doesn't love the latter? Taking a tip from Rodney, in retrospect, I also love respect, but all I seem to get around here is rejection. You see, my boomerang won't even come back to me! 😢06/10/2016 #33 Sarah Elkins"Why do so many people feel that giving someone respect is the same as surrendering to their ideologies?" Indeed. I've written a couple of articles along these lines, one was Respect vs. Being Respectful, acknowledging that we can treat someone respectfully (taking the high road), without respecting him/her. Behave respectfully, and your relationships will improve - and you'll be happier. Really.06/10/2016 #32 Sarah ElkinsThis is such an important concept, @Kevin Pashuk, and you presented it beautifully. "Why do so many people feel that giving someone respect is the same as surrendering to their ideologies?" Indeed. I've written a couple of articles along these lines, one was Respect vs. Being Respectful, acknowledging that we can treat someone respectfully (taking the high road), without respecting him/her. Another one was about being respectful and good ambassadors/role models for our children. If we are rude and inconsiderate to others, especially to our children and partners, we cannot expect them to be polite and considerate to anyone, especially us! Good reminders here, Kevin, sharing for sure.06/10/2016 #30 Phil Friedman#17 #16 - So as not to disappoint you, Kevin, or Jim, or for that matter Don, I agree one 125% with everything you've said here. And I think what you've said is important. I am, however, moved to add --- here it comes, the ubiquitous proviso --- that respect often involves treating others as equals, as much in your expectations of them as in your willingness to tolerate their foibles.
To my mind, that means not letting friends express half-assed ideas and opinions, without at least calling for them to discuss and defend them. The obverse of this is, for me at least, that simply patting everyone on the back (or head) and saying great job, independent of the facts, is a form of disrespect.
We love our children (at least when they are very young and cute) and we nurture them with an abundance of the kind of positive reinforcement intended to build their senses of self-worth and self-respect... but we do not in doing so "respect" them. It is only later when they grow into capable adults, worthy or our questioning of, and disagreement with them that we exhibit true respect for them as fully capable adult persons.
My point: love and caring are not synonymous with respect. Witness that we can, or should be able to respect people we don't like. Great post... with all due respect.06/10/2016 #26 David B. GrinbergExcellent message, Kevin. Respect and empathy are both critically important for the human condition and positive interpersonal relationships. Also, FYI, I'm a big fan of the late/great Rodney Dangerfield.
In my younger days, I attended one of his comedy shows and visited his comedy club in NYC ("Dangerfields"). Not sure if it's still there. His movies are hilarious too. Actually, I recall that when I attended his comedy show as kid on Long Island (NY), one exuberant fan/heckler yelled out: "Hey Rodney: where's the beef?" (per the popular Wendy's TV commercial back then). Without missing a beat, Rodney automatically responded to the fan/heckler: "Not in your pants!"
Good memories. Buzz on!06/10/2016 #23 Harvey LloydThanks @Kevin Pashuk a good reminder that we require feedback that acknowledges our existence and value. I believe one of the blinders to respect these days is the right and wrong internal debate. I can respect someone and not agree with their opinion. What ever journey they have taken has lead them to a place. I can respect their journey while not agreeing with their position.
- Producer03/10/2016Why Love is the Best MedicineThis is a topic very near and dear to my heart, my daily life, my future, and the change I want to be in the world. I was intending on sharing this to Sara Jacobovici's "What Words Mean to Me" hive just as soon as I saw it on LI via Emilia...
Comments04/10/2016 #8 Emilia M. LudovinoThank you dear @Deb Helfrich for this wonderful post. Just made my day, as I subscribe every word you penned down for us. Being myself a Reiki Karuna Master - Love, Compassion and Kindness are my working tools and my way of living, that I've been using for almost 20 years in all the walks of my life - as a Lawyer, Coach, Volunteer in Prisons and Hospitals - and I already testified some "miracles". Though I 100% agree with @Melissa Hefferman and #@Franci Eugenia Hoffman that we need to be more vocal about the importance of Love, Compassion, and Kindness in our world and to gather the like-minded soul. One Heart at a time and the LOVE REVOLUTION is possible. Much Love dear Deb and a blessed day.
- Producer01/10/2016The Brand, Our Brand : beBeeHow beBee came to us? When we decided to create a professional network through passions and an affinity-based network , we did not have the brand. We had the idea nor the brand.We did an internal contest among our employees with the goal of getting...
Comments06/10/2016 #101 David B. Grinberg#97 Do you have a specific web link or more specific citation @Flavio 🇯🇵 Souza 🐝?
As a former journalist and global media spokesman, I can't overemphasize the importance of appropriate attribution online -- this goes for all bloggers and everyone who produces sweet honey on beBee. I appreciate everyone considering this and, again, I appreciate your sharing the excellent quote, Flavio! Buzz on, my friend...04/10/2016 #91 Mohammed SultanDear,Javier beBee,You thrived for something that worth your strive-congratulations.All big things have little names and you learned how to use the name beBee in a big way .When the name covers the internal processes and the external impact,it will be much easier to design your positioning platform because the name say what you mean.Any successful innovation process starts with a genuine idea,like flashes of a spark,and passes the concept test through evaluation and development stages to realization.Because beBee innovation will disrupt the media and break the daily routine of the readers and writers,it must be carefully tracked to avoid innovation barriers and to ensure that it will lead to commercial success ,at least, in the first six months of its launch.For beBee to succeed in the long-term,you must create a position in the prospects mind that not only consider your strength and the value of beBee ,but also your competitor weakness and what prevent people from using their services.The new platform should depend more on informal ways that may give you more control when associating with your prospects.My view is; you can't depend on chance or referrals or word of mouth because they often dry and are a rather high risk passive marketing,and those who depend on them are often gamblers,not real marketers.Find the right bees whose loyalty can be developed and set up your positioning platform accordingly.04/10/2016 #87 Flavio 🇯🇵 Souza 🐝by the way, @Javier beBee here is "the power of the bees" to share with your marketing team.
"Bees are undoubtedly the most abundant pollinators of flowering plants in our environment. The service that bees and other pollinators provide allows nearly 70 percent of all flowering plants to reproduce; the fruits and seeds from insect pollinated plants account for over 30 percent of the foods and beverages that we consume. Beyond agriculture, pollinators are keystone species in most terrestrial ecosystems. Fruits and seeds derived from insect pollination are a major part of the diet of approximately 25 percent of all birds, and of mammals ranging from red-backed voles to grizzly bears."03/10/2016 #81 Augusto Santos#9 Thank you very much @Sushmita Thakare Jain! I'm so glad that you mentioned me, and so happy that you're enjoying to be here on beBee. The @Javier beBee's post brings us more closely to the beBee brand. This approach show to us how captivating is the plataform. Great buzz Javier!
- Producer26/09/2016Invasion of the Time SnatchersJust a quick post, here, regarding a sudden increase (over the past few weeks) in the number of invitations that I have been getting from people who are dressed suggestively, or barely dressed at all. I'm probably a little bit of a prude as far as...
Comments03/10/2016 #37 Lisa Gallagher#7 Likewise, this is very common on larger networks. I found this happening quite frequently when I was very active on Instagram. I never followed back. I've had a few of these profiles following me on here but it hasn't been common. It will become more common as beBee continues to grow. Twitter is full of them too, along with fake studly men profiles LOL.
This is off topic but one thing I noticed on Instagram, many of these young girls (hard to tell if they were over 18-21) were also promoting 'sex chats.' I became curious because some of the girls seriously did not look more than 16, and I found many men from other Countries commenting and promoting these gals. What do you think crossed my mind??? Sexual Trafficking. I began to report some of the very suspicious IG accounts and males who were making sexual comments. I thought, hmmm if there's a 1% chance even that one of these girls has been kidnapped, then I reported.
I'm not suggesting that here (reporting, that is) , just sharing my experience on IG. I'm curious if anyone else ever felt some of the accounts gals had on there looked too young to be advertising for grown men??03/10/2016 #36 CityVP ManjitOn the whole beBee has been good at spotting these fake titalizing profiles (and yes I know titalizing isn't a word) and removing them from beBee. The options that I want however are not simply Follow and No Thanks but
FOLLOW - NO THANKS - NUKE
"Nuke" means I don't want them following me. As the Nuke rate goes up, beBee will get an instant alert that fakery is trying to titalize its way onto beBee. Nuke it at source I say - and of course we can use a gentler word for NUKE - like STING- but NUKE is so more poetically appealing to me, and of course that may well just be a guy thing and beBee have fallen in love with STING for other meanings far more glorious and noble than that which means the protection of the hive.02/10/2016 #33 John ValledorThis buzz and associated commentary is classic crowsourcing behavior--in a good way. First you identify a suspect connection request, share findings/suspicions with your entire network and let swarming (like bees) take over. Just like antibodies in the bloodstream seeking out and obliterating annoying members. Thanks for the head's up!02/10/2016 #32 Denise Da Vinha RicieriGuys, believe me, not only women are doing that with you: men are too. I have same experience with both, men and women, suspicious profiles. Is almost funny for me to think that they really believe I will also believe on their profile. Like any other plataform, I did what I always do: just ignored and go on...02/10/2016 #30 Andrew GoldmanHello, Charles. Great points on the topic. I see the same trend on twitter and facebook. Fishing attacks I'd say. The best way would be just to ignore all those requests. Or unfollow if you did. After all, there is always some amount of ghost followers on all networks (my Instagram unbeatable on the case so far). Have an awesome day!27/09/2016 #24 Anonymous#22 Huh really? and which kind of efficiency did you expect from a (supposed) whore? LOL
If you are one of those, who has all the time of the world between "customers", you download the app and that's it.
Some of those had as many followers as I had, by following hundreds.
The last one who followed me, has 55 followers, following 373. No buzz. No Cv. Two Tits
This is efficiency, not what we do. Effort 0. Time investment, almost 0. Brain cells 2 (one for each thumb)
We have made a post because of them, with 21 comments right now (with mine, 22)
More comments than in some buzzes I spent hours.
(Sorry for being rude, is not my style)26/09/2016 #23 Charles David Upchurch#21 INNFORMATE... You probably don't get any of these because your username and logo both look like a business rather than like an individual person. If @David Navarro López is right, then you have removed yourself from their target market by not appearing to be an individual customer.26/09/2016 #22 Charles David Upchurch@David Navarro López, if what you are saying is true, then these people are very inefficient in how they spend their time (and how they try to get me to spend my time). I say this because they are doing very poor market research (I will NEVER be in their market) and they are not communicating clearly about what they are selling.
I think it is just as likely that these spammers are scammers who are either trying to target gullible victims for future crimes or they are intentionally flooding beBee with distractions in order to annoy users or to devalue the platform.
I guess the interpretation of why people do this kind of thing (since we cannot ask one of the people who does it) depends on one's world view. 'Beauty (or not) is in the eye of the beholder.'26/09/2016 #20 Flávio Rodrigues Vieira@Charles David Upchurch the opnion here should be taken with caution, but with all due respect, who needs to show the body to achieve notoriety, this in the wrong place, there is seriousness in female beauty fashion and etc, but some pictures make me ask things like: There is a hive for women and men who sell adult entertainment?
- Producer24/09/2016The Key Philosophical Differences Between beBee Ambassadors and "Influencers" on Other Social NetworksLately, I've been seeing a lot of discussion about beBee Brand Ambassadors and several have called me into those discussions for feedback. In fact, much of this blog has been taken from my responses in the comments on a viral conversation on...
Comments02/10/2016 #81 AnonymousI'm still playing catch up and was on my holidays when this was published, but the points are well made about the differences between ambassador and influencer and the facts about the program, if you really like something you are going to engage and participate in highlighting the product or brand...you only reap what you sow, and the seeds of beBee must be sown far and wide for it to compete and be successful...very well explained @John White, MBA27/09/2016 #76 Franci Eugenia Hoffman#40 @Margaret Aranda, MD, PhD contacted me is taking a break from beBee due to her friend that is extremely ill and other circumstances. Those of you that are close to Mags can reach her on her Twitter account. cc @Pamela L. Williams @Lisa Gallagher @Donna-Luisa Eversley @Ali Anani "@Paul "Pablo" Croubalian @Deb Helfrich @debasish majumder26/09/2016 #73 Lisa GallagherThanks for taking the time to write this @John White, MBA, you laid out the facts of the program nicely. We are not influencers and as @Dean Owen noted, we also are not responsible for managing problems people encounter on their posts. Isn't there abuse@beBee.com and support@beBee.com if people have issues? I for one, do not feel I am any better than anyone on this platform and I have much respect for all the bee's I interact with. There are so many wonderfully talented people on beBee and I'm doing today what I've done since I began on this platform- promoting as much as I can because I want to see beBee succeed and it's never been about me. Javier built a great team in Spain first and now with you John, and @Matt Sweetwood working hard in the US to help beBee grow, well I see this as a win/win.. as I said, many great people here, yourself included.25/09/2016 #72 Deb Helfrich#71 #70 You both have summed it up nicely - the criteria is sincere effort. The whole point of this platform is the way that it is meant to accommodate each person tailoring their experience. Each ambassador does their own thing and contributes to the ultimate success of the platform in a number of unique ways. The commonality is that you do invest your time in a way that makes others enjoy their beBee experience.25/09/2016 #71 Ali Anani#69 I always believed that money is the reward for doing professionally a job out of the heart. Money is a reward or by-product of devotion and excellence. Focusing on money is not the way. I applaud your comment @Javier beBee View more#69 I always believed that money is the reward for doing professionally a job out of the heart. Money is a reward or by-product of devotion and excellence. Focusing on money is not the way. I applaud your comment @Javier beBee and I am in full support of beBee Close