- Producer22/10/2016How The No Longer Virtual Conference Is Moving Online Connections To The Physical WorldOur digital world and always-online digital lifestyle have allowed friendships with our online connections to blossom. Most people reading this will have an increasing number of professional connections on platforms such as LinkedIn or BeBee that...
- Producer21/10/2016beBee, a bridge between Facebook and LinkedInI don't need to explain to you what Facebook is: YOUR LIFE. In my humble opinion Facebook is an unbeatable value proposition: Your family and friends. Facebook is about people in your life, you already know them. You can use Facebook for other...
Comments22/10/2016 #38 Phil Friedman#26 Thank you, Gerald, for the sour out. You are spot on. As Javier says, there is room for all on beBee, to socialize or engage intellectually, to goof around or be serious. That is why strictly quantitative comparisons between beBee and other platforms is misleading and self-defeating. If it were up to me, I would emphasize, again as Javier does, the "richness" of the platform, and the ability to tailor a personal niche to meet your needs, tastes, and objectives. Cheers!22/10/2016 #36 SUSHIL KUMARThanks Javier to making us understand the differences among these three social media platforms.
Yes, you are very true initially I put my profile in LinkedIn for jobs and seldom used it. After advent of its feature pulse we started using regularly and loved it very well.
Truly it is very irritating, when they limited notifications and showed that their interest is different from ours.
We are in search of another platforms whose interests is aligned with ours and finally,we are on bebee to find great writers.22/10/2016 #26 Gerald HechtThis is different than any other --I still find it hard to believe that as a user you really can control the "vertical and horizontal " (like the reverse of that old show "The Outer Limits"...that's the point that @Phil Friedman View moreThis is different than any other --I still find it hard to believe that as a user you really can control the "vertical and horizontal " (like the reverse of that old show "The Outer Limits"...that's the point that @Phil Friedman is so passionate about and trying to get people to understand...even the first guide I found explains it (by @Paul "Pablo" Croubalian) but it "didn't take" at first because we are used to being controlled by algorithms but https://www.bebee.com/producer/@paul-croubalian/a-quickie-getting-started-on-bebee-guide ...check it (and there are others --his was the "first lifeboat I swam into")...but if you don't control it --everything will just flow to you but that's cause nobody is choosing for you; that's good!!! Close22/10/2016 #25 Ella de JongThank you for sharing this Lisa! I was thinking about it a lot: how to be on beBee and not lose myself / my time reading and replying to all the interesting stuff one can find here! I have to find a smaller field in which I will contribute by writing and engaging :-) Thanks @Javier beBee clear article! I've just decided for myself I am a "Beautiful Communication Idealist" .... Hmmm, I'll be back! #2022/10/2016 #24 Graham SmithI am pretty new to BeBee and have not really started to use it properly, but what I see so far is quite refreshing in Social Media circles. I have been on FB and LI almost since they first began and have seen their ups and downs. Both my FB and LI accounts have been hacked over the years as well as my email accounts, so I am much more careful these days and I think others should be as well. In the past year I have really become discontented with LI in particular as they have changed the way posts are distributed across the platform (one of the reasons I moved across to BeBee). It was supposed to be a networking platform for like minded professionals where you could come together to discuss business issues etc. They also changed the way groups interacted. The final straw that broke the camels back for me was recruitment frauds, and I was scammed myself. There is plenty of fake profiles out their as well, so I just keep a lower profile there than I ever did before. When and if I do apply for a position through LI, I have had people come back to me giving so many excuses as to why I am not fit for the position such as; over qualified for that position; to expensive; and the latest to old (ageism). So in summary I am not as active as I once was on LI and I think that is their loss and the business world in general, I am active on FB with friend mainly but I do have a business page as well and as I mentioned early dipping my toes into the BeBees water. Watch this space ;)
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Comments11/10/2016 #15 Vincent Andrew#9 'It is just easier on beBee because of the affinity networking.' This I agree with you @Christine Stevens. But if I want to find a particular buzz and I don't remember the hive where it was posted to, how do I find out @Javier beBee? And is there a way to look at all the comments that we've made in other bees' posts?10/10/2016 #10 Christine Stevens#6 John, you are right that you helped - all of your discussion, not just the caveats part. You challenged me to think a little more about the numbers, which is always good.
In terms of engagement, the percentages still work out lower for beBee, but that last post got as much discussion here as LinkedIn, which I think is largely a factor of topic and exposure. Engagement takes time to build, in my experieince. You're not going to get great numbers right out of the gate, or even three months in. Topic choice doesn't hurt either. @Steve Blakeman received hundreds of comments on a piece about oversharing on social media because the trigger for his piece was Kim Kardashian. Not all the comments were very nice, but the name "Kardashian" did evoke a response. When measuring engagement, you have to look at some more "squishy" data points than just how many followers, views, and comments you have.10/10/2016 #9 Christine Stevens#7 @Vincent Andrew, it was not my intent to temper enthusiasm. beBee is a fantastic platform and anyone who is into social media would be foolish to turn down an opportunity to make use of it.
I don't know if there is just "more" good stuff here, or if it is more accessible. LinkedIn is a difficult platform to get noticed on because of volume and the way the Pulse feed works. Eventually, if you know how to pick your way through your contacts, groups, and topics, you can find a wealth of good information on LinkedIn. It is just easier on beBee because of the affinity networking.10/10/2016 #8 Christine Stevens#6 John, you are right that you helped - all of your discussion, not just the caveats part. You challenged me to think a little more about the numbers, which is always good.
In terms of engagement, the percentages still work out lower for beBee, but that last post got as much discussion here as LinkedIn, which I think is largely a factor of topic and exposure. Engagement takes time to build, in my experieince. You're not going to get great numbers right out of the gate, or even three months in. Topic choice doesn't hurt either. @Steve Blakeman received hundreds of comments on a piece about oversharing on social media because the trigger for his piece was Kim Kardashian. Not all the comments were very nice, but the name "Kardashian" did evoke a response. When measuring engagement, you have to look at some more "squishy" data points than just how many followers, views, and comments you have.10/10/2016 #6 John Vaughan#5 "I'd argue that my numbers were not open to question since they were not manipulated in anyway." sez @Christine Stevens.
"I'm not disputing your numbers, Christine" sez John. I'm confirming that the way in which beBee counts things is different from the way LinkedIn counts things. I'm glad that you accept - and want to use - my clarification re the difference in how beBee and LinkedIn count Comments. Especially since it affects how we interpret "raw data" into numbers. The same common sense applies when comparing beBee 'views' vs. LinkedIn 'views'.
There's a subtle difference between 'raw data' and 'valid data'. There's abundant evidence that beBee and LinkedIn are using different measurement systems. It's provable for Comments. It's obvious for Views. We don't need to look under the hood in order to recommend a 'caveat' when unsubstantiated/suspicious numbers are offered up as 'raw data'. Too bad that neither beBee nor LinkedIn reveal their measurement criteria. But we also aren't idiots.
Since you mention "throwing a bone": Yep - an acknowledgement by you that I helped your article to make a little more sense (at least the 'Comments caveat' part) would be almost as cool as me saying that your jokes are funny. It's - you know - "professional collegial"... ;-}
Your experience - and, I think, frustration - with LinkedIn is similar to mine (since 2005). As is your appreciation of Quality vs Quantity. A pattern is that beBee Aficionados tend to grasp at Big Shallow Numbers when they draw a comparison with LinkedIn. Gotta admit: Their enthusiasm is undeniable. Their analytical wisdom ... maybe not so much.
This simple framing question remains from both of our data tables: beBee supposedly provides upwards of 10x the 'viewership' as LinkedIn, yet far less than 1/2 the Likes.... WTF? Is it Quantity ... or is it Quality?10/10/2016 #5 Christine Stevens#4 John, to say I am "thrilled" with beBee's numbers would be overstating it, in that it would imply I am somehow emotionally invested in the hit count on my writing. The personal, private messages I get about my writing mean far more to me than a hundred or a thousand views, regardless of how they are counted. As I pointed out, data provides insight, not answers. It helps me ask more questions. One of those questions is "Is beBee useful for my future plans and worth an investment of my time?"
I'd argue that it is, but that it will take time to see a return on my investment, just like LinkedIn. I've been on LinkedIn since 2007. It took six years of keeping my résumé updated there and connecting with people to see any pay off at all. Since then, it's netted me two career changes with other substantive benefits, some fantastic connections, friends, and yes, some monetary gain due to those career changes.
I'd argue that my numbers were not open to question since they were not manipulated in anyway. They were simply put out there. Raw data. One or both sites' algorithms and calculations might be questionable, but not raw data. Would I love to see under the hood of both beBee's and LinkedIn's publishing engines? Heck yeah, but that is unlikely. I'd love to deconstruct them and figure out how to put them back together again, but I am an IT business analyst and a geek. I'm weird that way.
Oh, and throw me a bone please? At least one of my jokes had to be funny. ;-)10/10/2016 #4 John Vaughan@Christine Stevens: Thanks for correcting your original article's assumptions by including the incisive and insightful caveat about how Comments are counted on LinkedIn vs on beBee. It comes pretty much verbatim from my response to your article: "BeBee vs. LinkedIn : By the Numbers" (https://www.bebee.com/producer/@john-vaughan/bebee-vs-linkedin-by-the-numbers) in which I both cited and quoted you - even though your numbers were a little - well - 'open to question'.
CS> "Reactions to the data were mixed. BeBee members were thrilled that beBee’s numbers were much higher than LinkedIn’s. Some LinkedIn members dismissed the numbers because they didn’t like beBee or because they considered views to be “vanity metrics”
With all due respect, I'm a beBee member who remains un-thrilled at beBee's artificially high numbers compared to LinkedIn. Or - if you will - LinkedIn's artificially low numbers when compared to beBee. It's not that one way of counting 'a view' is superior to the other - It's that the algorithm, technique, or whatever-you-want-to-call-it used by each service to count 'views' is profoundly (and obviously) different.
In any case, there's a non-partisan 'common sense' deconstruction of why beBee's overall view numbers are probably higher than "views" on LinkedIn: Because (just like with Comments), "a view" on LinkedIn is counted differently than 'a view' on beBee.
You look at the overall pattern of the numbers. You scratch your head. And unless you're really committed to a predetermined agenda, then you have to get beyond "and then a Miracle happens'" analysis.
If anyone wishes to compare 'performance' on the two services, it only makes sense to attempt to compare them using the same methods. Or at least acknowledge that the difference exists. The term "caveat" works nicely. It applies in the case of Views just as it applies in the case of Comments.
- 07/10/2016Here are the results from my Twitter poll. With over 1300 weighing in with their opinion the results were quite interesting. Here a few of my observations:
1) The poll was hosted on Twitter which surely contributed heavily to their landslide win.
2) beBee polled virtually even with Facebook!
3) beBee got more than twice as votes as LinkedIn, which only got 4% of the total votes.
What do you think about these results? Just a fun meaningless poll on Twitter or is there something within the data here that might be worth considering?
Comments07/10/2016 #3 Lisa GallagherI think this data is worth watching. We are within a margin of error competing with Facebook and yes, we score much higher than Linkedin, which says, we should watch for many new users. So, we keep doing what we are doing with a fervor. I'm trying to up my game. Would love to see another poll in a month! Great job John!
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Comments01/10/2016 #1 Hassan AmanAnd when you turn on the BeBee app, the golden honey right before loading. No comments there, I often check my app just for that because the pattern is designed that way. It has a lot to do with psychology and neuromarketing, some brilliant minds behind that design and pattern selection.
- Producer26/09/2016Connections through passions: new people with common interestsGood morning bees. Let's go deeper into the beBee's concept, which is very important. beBee is not a professional directory of resumes where users are required to pay for basic services and are contacted constantly by others trying to recruit or...
Comments21/10/2016 #43 Wayne Yoshida@Javier beBee - YES! I went to an American Marketing Association (AMA) meeting last night. As I explained beBee to several people, I kept repeating the similar message -- everyone is much more than a "Job Title" -- we all have our personal passions, and so why not connect using this very human trait?20/10/2016 #37 Don KerrIt continually comes back to the notion of work/life integration where we acknowledge that an individual is NOT just what he or she does to earn a living. An individual is a whole person and to date this is the sole platform that both acknowledges and enables this reality. Sharing broadly.20/10/2016 #36 Kevin PashukbeBee is the only social network I have belonged to that has fostered friendships with people I met on the platform. Other networks have been good at maintaining business and personal relationship over distance, but usually only after they were established in person.
7 months into it, it's only getting better. Time well invested.28/09/2016 #30 Hassan Aman#29 Thank you again, @Deb Helfrich. I call you the Corvette queen for a reason :) by the way, I was in Sweden over the weekend at an action packed motorsport event and I filmed a new Corvette on the track only because of the chat we had. I will share it with you once we go live.27/09/2016 #27 Franci Eugenia HoffmanWe proved this today. I wrote a buzz about our car, Sally Sue https://www.bebee.com/producer/@franci-hoffman/men View moreWe proved this today. I wrote a buzz about our car, Sally Sue https://www.bebee.com/producer/@franci-hoffman/men. @Deb Helfrich mentioned my buzz to @Hassan Aman as he is also a fan of cars. Now Hassan and I are connected so this is what beBee is all about "Connections through Passions" @Javier beBee. Close
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Comments11/08/2016 #33 Kevin Pashuk#31 Thanks for bringing up Red Green @John Vaughan!!! I used to watch that show religiously. I especially like the phrases "If the women can't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!", and "Keep your stick on the ice!" and the 3 words men have the most trouble saying.... "I. Don't. Know."
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Comments22/07/2016 #9 Gillian BarnesGenerally, yes, the posting during peak times is ideal, but it should be balanced by doing a few tests. Your ideal client is not the same as your competition and may be on at a different time. Try a few random posts and see if engagement is higher / what sort of results you get. This is a great baseline, but you definitely need to dial into your target market too.