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The Commenting Philosopher

~ 100 buzzes
These are the buzzes that Deb Helfrich found to stimulate a very important thought or feeling - and she probably left a thoughtful comment that might be worth revisiting.
  1. ProducerJoel Anderson

    Joel Anderson

    Lines in the Sand: Part II
    Lines in the Sand: Part IILast night in a hospital room with my father, while he slept, my grown and very smart daughter and I somehow embarked on a discussion about things coming up and looming in our future. The focus was on my father, but as we watched him sleep she...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    20/01/2017 #10 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #9 These lines of text leave the footprints of family, along the path of its glorious complexity.
    Joel Anderson
    20/01/2017 #9 Joel Anderson
    #4 Deb your kindness and compassion are truly appreciated.
    Joel Anderson
    20/01/2017 #8 Joel Anderson
    #5 Thank you Lisa Gallagher.
    Joel Anderson
    20/01/2017 #7 Joel Anderson
    #6 Thank you so much. "Our threads cross and tangle with twists" indeed. I didn't like it, I loved Crimson Thread. Keep making a difference.
    FancyJ London
    20/01/2017 #6 FancyJ London
    This reminds me of the Red Thread Ancient chinese Proverb. If you have a moment take a look at a poem I wrote on my blog, Crimson Thread. I think you will like it. Thank you for sharing your deep amazing thoughts, I enjoyed this post immensely. Cheers
    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    20/01/2017 #5 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    @Joel Anderson, this was 'mind' altering. Thank you for giving the reader another perspective through your eyes. This just made SO much sense. I'm glad you and your daughter are able to talk as you do!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    20/01/2017 #4 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Joel Anderson
    19/01/2017 #3 Joel Anderson
    #1 In time dear cousin we will make it so. Thanks and all the best to you and yours
    Joel Anderson
    19/01/2017 #2 Joel Anderson
    #1 In time dear cousin we will make it so. Thanks and all the best to yiu and yours
    Dave Anderson
    19/01/2017 #1 Dave Anderson
    So when are you and Marybeth's lines going to intertwine and head out to Monterey for a visit?
  2. Dean Owen

    Dean Owen

    I remember Agassi vs Becker matches with fondness. Little did we know Agassi held a secret so simple, it almost ensured he beat Becker every time. This is fascinating....
    Andre Agassi tennis hack against Boris Becker
    Andre Agassi tennis hack against Boris Becker Amazing and funny story if Andre Agassi about Boris Becker...


    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    20/01/2017 #3 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Man that sure got Boom Boom Becker tongue tied, din it? ;) Awesome share!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    20/01/2017 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    This is amazing on so many levels.

    I'll stick with the meta level that what most people noticed about the flamboyance of Agassi's 'style' successfully kept them from assessing him correctly.
    José Ramón  🐝 López
    20/01/2017 #1 José Ramón 🐝 López
    Great Agassi!!!
  3. ProducerDayne Yarbrough

    Dayne Yarbrough

    Order Outage
    Order OutageWhat would the sun do if it were you? Every dawn of occasion looks up to the beautiful creation and having been fascinated, it made its own equation with everything aware that it exists. Time and space have say in such a way that it makes 1.618...


    Dayne Yarbrough
    20/12/2016 #2 Dayne Yarbrough
    #1 not sure if you mean the orthography of soljesystin or the orthography of this order
    Pascal Derrien
    17/12/2016 #1 Pascal Derrien
    For some reasons i ended up thinking about Soljesystin (not sure about the orthograph) when reading this ☺
  4. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    @Gerald Hecht - I would really appreciate it if you could offer some of your professional insights on this development and the new drug MSDC-0160, and perhaps help me translate what the drug does into some nutritional interventions for @Gary Sharpe to consider.

    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    New hope for Parkinson’s disease - VAI
    www.vai.org For the estimated seven to 10 million people living with Parkinson’s disease, there’s new reason for...
  5. Gary Sharpe

    Gary Sharpe

    "Working with Gary has given me the opportunity to become aware of how my emotions affect his physical state – and while it can be truly difficult to confront my culpability in the moment – overall this clarity is a gift. Because until I could see the damage of raging emotions physically, I was not doing the best job of maintaining my own awareness. Because there was very little cost to my physical stamina."

    ~ @Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Gary Sharpe
    What Emotions Have To Do With It
    www.outthinkingparkinsons.com For those of us lucky enough to share our lives with someone with Parkinson's we can use this as an opportunity for both of us to learn something about self-awareness and the hope that can arise from noticing and implementing simple...


    Deb🐝 Lange
    14/12/2016 #2 Deb🐝 Lange
    #1 great sharing about learning from and with someone with parkinsons . I have learnt much from working with someone with chronic fatigue - how energy can shift in a moment, how not being authentic is draining to both people, how being authentic is life-giving and much more
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    13/12/2016 #1 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    This is a post I wrote back in March that talks about looking at our emotions through the lens of how they affect the physical symptoms of Parkinson's.

    The physical toll of 'Raging' emotions might not be so obvious to most of us, but our bodies are unquestionably taking a hit.
  6. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Revolutionary! Just a few notes to entice people...."In flow states, we are using a lot less of our brain - it becomes hypoactive - and it is the prefrontal cortex that is deactivating"

    Time is calculated in the prefrontal cortex - and if parts wink out, we can no longer separate past, present, future - we are plunged into something called the deep now.

    Sense of self is also resident in prefrontal cortex - if it is turned off your inner critic goes quiet.
    How to open up the next level of human performance | Steven Kotler | TEDxABQ
    How to open up the next level of human performance | Steven Kotler | TEDxABQ What does it take to be your best when it matters most? Author of 7 bestselling books, Pulitzer Prize nominee, and Director of Research at the Flow Genome...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    11/12/2016 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #1 Well Steven is a journalist just like Malcolm, so neither is proving/disproving just packaging.

    K. Anders Ericsson is the psychologist behind the 10,000 hour hypothesis and he worked with Nobel laureate Herbert Simon, who I was lucky enough to take a class from at Carnegie Mellon. So I can 'vet' him to some extent and not just dismiss his work.

    The difference as I understand it is 10k represents a developmental approach to sustained practice of skills versus the newer research on flow, which I find so fascinating precisely because the suggestion of turning off the prefrontal cortex which we revere so highly and using the full-body intelligence of our vastly superior unconscious mind.

    I can tell we are going to have some interesting discussions, @Zacharias Voulgaris 🐝, because I do agree that the 10,000 hour claims got too much attention from the hyper-competitive crowd, because just like innate 'god-given' talent the life conditions to dedicate 10k hours to one endeavor is a pretty rare occurrence.
    Zacharias Voulgaris 🐝
    11/12/2016 #1 Zacharias Voulgaris 🐝
    Always refreshing to see someone with the guts to disprove M. Gladwell's pseudoscience with some real science to back his claims. Thanks for sharing
  7. ProducerDeb 🐝 Helfrich
    Socks, Open-mindedness, and Intolerance Masked
    Socks, Open-mindedness, and Intolerance MaskedThis buzz is solely my personal opinion and represents a rebuttal to some members of this community. Please do exercise your right to click-away if you are uninterested in hearing about some masked discrimination that I recently experienced, as...


    Lada 🏑 Prkic
    12/12/2016 #79 Lada 🏑 Prkic
    I don’t know what the whole fuss is about. I read both articles and found the controversial buzz about snake oil by Don Kerr, with which I disagree although I admire the author. By the way, I think we should be able to speak bluntly and to indicate the article or the author to whom it refers. It's the fair thing to do.
    I have a positive attitude towards holistic medicine because I was convinced in its effects at the example of my family. It is logical approach to the healing process that includes the whole person and not just the human body. But I can also understand the opposite opinions.
    For example, my highly religious colleague is strongly against yoga. When she heard that I was intended to start doing yoga she tried to talk me out of it. She thinks about yoga as some kind of demonic activity. This is her attitude toward meditation, too.
    Unlike her I grew up in an environment which has always been open to new ideas. That’s why I also believe that the ability to discuss any topic is how we grow and learn to be tolerant, the value greatly lacking in society.
    @Deb 🐝 Helfrich, thanks for the post that broadens horizons.
    jesse kaellis
    12/12/2016 #78 jesse kaellis
    It was more than I expected, Robert but it will have been worthwhile if I get the results I expect. I HAD to take action. The consequences of continuing to deteriorate would have put me in a wheelchair.
    Robert Bacal
    11/12/2016 #77 Robert Bacal
    #74 Sorry to hear that, @jesse kaellis. Obviously the surgeries weren't your "garden variety" simple stuff, if there's actually such a thing with something so complex as the back.
    debasish majumder
    11/12/2016 #76 debasish majumder
    snake have a fixed eye ball, which is a hindrance to them, in terms of catching their prey! on contrary, human have an eye ball, enabling them to keep a vision and even enable to widen their vistas! wonderful post @Deb 🐝 Helfrich View more
    snake have a fixed eye ball, which is a hindrance to them, in terms of catching their prey! on contrary, human have an eye ball, enabling them to keep a vision and even enable to widen their vistas! wonderful post @Deb 🐝 Helfrich! ENJOYED READ MADAM. THANK YOU FOR THE SHARE. Close
    jesse kaellis
    11/12/2016 #75 jesse kaellis
    Thanks, Deb. Very much. I couldn't even get near a cyber cafe, so I came back to a backlog of correspondence. Which I knew.
    jesse kaellis
    11/12/2016 #74 jesse kaellis
    Time will tell, Robert. It will take intensive rehab and a recovery period of up to three months. The screws, the apparatus, needs to fuse with the bone. I had two surgeries. I fell shortly after the first one. A disaster. But there's this; I finally understand why people commit suicide over chronic pain. Physician-assisted suicide. At times the pain was extraordinary.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    11/12/2016 #73 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #71 I am tremendously glad you are on the mend - alive and with a back all the better to kick with. I am certain it was a lot to go through.
    Robert Bacal
    11/12/2016 #72 Robert Bacal
    #71 @jesse kaellis Pending your full story writeup did it go well? The surgery that is, and has it helped? I know a number of people who have had back surgery, and some it helped immensely and some not so much.
    jesse kaellis
    11/12/2016 #71 jesse kaellis
    I can only really tell the truth about myself, Cyndi. I just got back from surgery in Mexico, and I'm exhausted. I mean to write it up as a story. It was a lot more than I had anticipated. Thank you.
    Cyndi wilkins
    10/12/2016 #70 Cyndi wilkins
    #69 I love them and loathe them at the same time! And things that go bump in the night;-)
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    10/12/2016 #69 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #68 You know, @Cyndi wilkins, snakes add a lot to the natural eco-system in harmony with a natural balance. I kind of am fascinated by them, offer my respect for their habitat, and constantly exercise my ability to steer clear.
    Cyndi wilkins
    10/12/2016 #68 Cyndi wilkins
    Speaking of snakes...They really don't like it when you make them squirm, do they? Good for you for speaking your truth Deb...Jesse and Max are two of my favorite "cage rattler's" on this platform...Dare to be different;-)
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    10/12/2016 #67 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #61 You can call me any name you want, Pablo! I am certain I will either smile or laugh so hard my keyboard is in jeopardy of frizzing from the coffee spatter.

    Bullies are not trolls. Bullies are taking a public place, marking their territory, and enforcing their arbitrary rules, often in the guise of doing what everyone else wants. Depending on the territory, as @David Navarro LΓ³pez so poignantly points out, we may simply not be able to have a meaningful effect on their activities. Religious, governmental bullies and anyone with weaponry needs to be avoided.

    But a social media platform is the place for open, civil, and impactful discussions. I won't be shamed into silence.

    I am drawing my own line in the sand for tolerance.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    10/12/2016 #66 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #59 #60 Absolutely anything can be said with respect, for instance - "I honestly have trouble regarding this as anything but snakeoil - am I missing something?" "Do you think this might be giving people false hope and be dangerous in the way we think of snakeoil?" Opinion stated in a way discussion can ensue.

    I haven't the slightest problem with the basic challenging question. I object vehemently to the methodology used. Because as I titled this buzz - I believe it to be intolerance masked.
    Paul "Pablo" Croubalian
    10/12/2016 #64 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian
    #63 True, but sometimes I feel like being an ambassador is like having a target painted on your back. Some people think that we can't fight back. We shouldn't fight back. Or, we mustn't fight back.

    They're wrong.

    Javier and Juan saw fit to make me an ambassador. It sure wasn't because of my pretty face. Unless. . . maybe they're Homer Simpson fans? Whatever the reason was, I didn't change what I do or how I do it on this or other platforms. I promoted beBee before, I continue to promote it now.

    I'm not here to hold hands and sing Kumbaya either.

    It's a social network, emphasis on the "social." It's easy for cowards to hide behind a keyboard. We need to accept the fact that it's impossible to please everyone.

    I don't really give a rat's patootie what anyone else thinks an ambassador "should" do or "must" do. Javier and Juan selected us, they can unselect us.

    Everybody else is entitled to their opinion, but it ain't worth much. No worries, as was said in another comment, "Haters gonna hate." I chalk it up to jealousy....

    Let the flaming begin.
    Paul "Pablo" Croubalian
    10/12/2016 #61 Paul "Pablo" Croubalian
    I'll start my comment with some direct name calling. Deb, you Inspiration, you.

    Frankly, it boggles my mind that anyone should take offense at what you wrote. While I'm not a fan of any holistic treatments, I respect the individual's right to choose.

    I see little point in forcing my opinion down someone's throat.

    On the larger issue of online bullying, there are several thoughts I would like to share. There is a common thought that one should not "feed the trolls." That's true for trolls. Not so much for bullies. You do not stop a bully by giving in or running away. Most are cowards at the core. Just don't show them they hit a nerve.

    The worst type, and probably the one you allude to, disguises the bullying as a rebuttal or an expression of "difference of opinion." These posts are easy to recognize. They are full of semantically charged words. They draw "conclusions" from misinterpreted data. They claim their conjectures are "facts."

    Some of these are simply taken badly. The written word lacks inflection, so misinterpretations are common. Some aren't. They are deliberate.

    When a post or a comment pisses me off, I do two things. One, I reply immediately but in Word not directly. That helps me get the anger out of they way. Two, I wait a day and read it again. If it still pisses me off, I'll wait a little more.I once waited 10 days.

    To the commenters who draw such ire: It is not enough that you hide behind "I have a right to express my opinion." So do they. Why does your right supersede theirs? It doesn't.

    It is up to YOU to take all reasonable steps to avoid the impression of bullying. No, saying, "My opinion" or "No offense, but," doesn't cut it.

    To authors: Don't leave. Thank the commenter for their comment. Say something like, "You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if I don't share it. Thanks for the comment and have a great day." Then get on with your life. Is their opinion that important to you?

    Don't sweat it.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    10/12/2016 #58 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #57 I take absolutely no credit. The original quote came from Viktor Frankl and its prominence on beBee is attributed to a few folks I admire and call friends.
    Aleta Curry
    10/12/2016 #57 Aleta Curry
    #56 Love that last line; I'll have to use it!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    10/12/2016 #56 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #53 It is not a common occurrence, at all, as the vast, vast majority of people find beBee to be a refreshingly positive, supportive place to be. I work hard at adding that exact sort of value every day.

    My own personal standard is that no one should experience 'name calling abuse' that causes them to leave beBee. In this case, it was the very subtlety of an indirect attack that I thought lent itself to a discussion that might bring about more awareness.

    Interacting with tolerance is actual hard work on a global site based on open participation. We all have biases. We all have buttons that will get pushed.

    This community is one where we celebrate the pause between a stimulus and a response, so that we may state our views with respect toward the person who holds the opposing view.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    10/12/2016 #55 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #53 I am happy for you that you have avoided this experience. I experienced at first and it was why I left for a while.

    It was actions taken by the management team that convinced me to give it another shot.

    While I have still experienced it, it has gotten much much better and that has a lot to do with the rest of the community also working to put an end to it.
  8. ProducerDeb 🐝 Helfrich
    Talking with Max Carter: What does a Shaman Do?
    Talking with Max Carter: What does a Shaman Do?We all know the definition of insanity is to continue doing what we are doing, expecting different results. We nod our heads when we read listicles about the keys to change, and then scroll onward. But when was the last time you decided to have a...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    06/12/2016 #25 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #23 And adding richness to the flow of life is a great way to really change the world around you. Anyone enjoying their own life fully will inevitably pass along joy and fun and possibility.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    06/12/2016 #24 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #21 #22 Thanks for adding a couple crucial points, @Praveen Raj Gullepalli. Any honest human being who can be vulnerable to their own complete awareness knows that they have experienced at least one thing in their life for which they have no rational explanation. The absolute truth of being in love, for example.

    It is puerile and divisive for a member of this community to invoke their ambassadorship while they ridicule something that makes them uncomfortable.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    06/12/2016 #23 Deb🐝 Lange
    That is great @Deb 🐝 Helfrich#16 I agree the more we notice and sense the richer our experience of life and relationships with self and others.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    06/12/2016 #22 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    #10 ''... It includes an integration of thinking, sensing, feeling, noticing, moving, breathing as an organic being.'' As in complete AWARENESS.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    06/12/2016 #21 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    #5 ...and comfortable being with each other, regardless of differences of opinions and perspectives.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    06/12/2016 #20 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #14 Skepticism is a truly beneficial approach in our human toolkit, @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher. Having the ability to discern the rightness, truth, or slight possibility of a new idea or experience is crucial to our survival. But being skeptical does not mean waging a disinformation campaign against everything we don't understand.

    And part of the true worth of the internet is that we can learn about ideas, ways of life, and experiences that were out of our reach when we couldn't meet people from around the globe.

    The ironic thing is, healthcare is a good example of where we believe in things 100% but the actual underlying statistics show a much less clear reality. For example, "Medical errors rank behind heart disease and cancer as the third leading cause of death in the U.S., Johns Hopkins researchers say." http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139

    If people were more likely to employ skepticism that number might not be quite so high.

    But real skepticism entails listening fully to the opposing point of view, or the risks of the medical treatment, and then making an informed decision.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    05/12/2016 #19 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #13 You pretty much honed in on exactly why I wanted to talk to @Max🐝 J. Carter and then share a bit about what I learned and experienced"

    "It's inconvenient and takes courage, but a necessary requirement" to sometimes "rock us out of our subjective, judgmental comfort zones"

    You are much more aware than most. @Ian Weinberg, that we are primarily a bunch of 5-year-olds when it comes to beliefs. We downloaded what was said in our immediate environment a decade before our analytical mind started to develop. And because we got those beliefs from people we loved and trusted implicitly, it feels a little shameful and invokes a lot of fear when we are confronted with a word like shaman that simply never came up in our conventional, middle-class, pre-internet worlds.

    But as an adult, a little more knowledge is never something to fear. We are now in full control of accepting or rejecting parts or the whole of something that, once we understand it, does or does not mesh with what we think, believe and experience.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    05/12/2016 #18 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #12 Thanks for adding that point, @Ken Boddie because many of us North Americans forget that we are rather late to the party on some things and that there are some long traditions in the East that must be respected as they were helping people centuries before the printing press, let alone the peer-reviewed double-blind trial.

    One thing that has been validated extensively by pharma dollars is the placebo effect. When it comes to healing, and most certainly to simple life changes, deciding that the pill will work or that the conversation was beneficial can be a major factor in allowing us to let go of worry, because we have taken action. That shift from constant worry, to trusting the pill, the needle, or the healing professional does release us from being in a sympathetic state where our body is constantly alert and not dedicating resources to repair. Chronic anxiety and fear is one of the reasons that modern life is full of chronic disease. We don't give our body the calm, easeful state it needs to take care of growth and healing.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    05/12/2016 #17 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #16 There are a lot of physical talkers in the world and it helps in moving energy while speaking as much as it enhances communication and @Deb 🐝 Helfrich moves a lot of energy when she speaks that assists her in maintaining her focus and finding the abstract pieces for linear communication.

    This is what allows her to be so insight filled.

    Allowing the abstract field to give her what she needs to find the individual expression that often produces wise insights as we have all witnessed many times.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    05/12/2016 #16 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #10 Another light-bulb moment, @Deb🐝 Lange. Because I find it to be true that every sense we add as part of a conversation makes us feel we are understood at a deeper level. Typing back and forth in posts and comments can create real relationships. But then get on the phone, and the experience is richer. Have a video call and even more sensory information is conveyed back and forth. Sitting across a meal creates a very rich connection.

    "Transformation is visceral." Analytical lists, rigid belief in what is measurable, keeps us in our language-based ego when what we need is to feel. As individuals we have to relearn how to trust what our body feels.

    As @Max🐝 J. Carter can testify, I like to move quite a lot when I talk. I even do it when typing comments. I can often catch myself making a movement that either reinforces my point or adds a further level of meaning to what I am saying.

    I am sincerely looking forward to your videos, as your book has been a source of great companionship. I feel quite young at heart in the way I enjoy sometimes just looking at the pictures, other times going back to a section that draws me to re-read it.
    Mohammed Sultan
    05/12/2016 #15 Mohammed Sultan
    @ Deb Helfrich .Thanks for your insightful post.I wish any shaman or sheikh (in may religion) can use his special power to cure many of the business diseases that we can't discover by the scientific methods of market research or give us an accurate interpretation why 85% of our young start ups die at the second year of their birth.I hope they can tell why people resist our innovations although they are acceptable and desirable or they can use their good spirits to change the current outdated selection criteria of HR to give young people more hope of getting fair job opportunity.Some people may also resist what I am saying stressing that life is not at all about business only.I fully agree,everybody can be a shaman or sheikh for herself because she receives the same light from the same source.Everyone has her own light that can help see life pitfalls or bumpy roads. Everyone has her own light enough for her own journey .Don't look for the light in the side of darkness ,and when you feel that your light is dim recharge your batteries or keep plugged.As we suffer from myths that may kill our businesses,one of our myths in life is to resort to shamans or sheikhs who can use ,as they claim,magic to discover the the cause of illness and bad luck.The real comfort and good feeling are achieved when we resort to the main and the only source of light to provide us with enough light for our long paths.
    Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    05/12/2016 #14 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher
    Interesting read @Deb 🐝 Helfrich. I always wondered why @Max🐝 J. Carter had the title Shaman, this helps me to understand. I'm not opposed to a holistic approach but there will always be the skeptic in me because of my healthcare background. My comment about being a skeptic is not in relation to what Max does personally, it's a general comment. I'm glad you've had a great outcome with your sessions along with a few revelations! Thanks for enlightening us!
    Ian Weinberg
    05/12/2016 #13 Ian Weinberg
    We need the Max Carters of the world to rock us out of our subjective, judgmental comfort zones and confront truth (a relative term) and a greater authenticity. It's inconvenient and takes courage, but a necessary requirement for positive evolution of the individual and the greater collective.
    Ken Boddie
    05/12/2016 #12 Ken Boddie
    Thank you, Deb, for an illuminating and insightful post. Personally I am still locked in between the western need for scientific proof and the eastern acceptance of beneficiary awareness. I'm glad you have been able to unlock your cultural bias and perhaps initial scepticism to your benefit.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    05/12/2016 #11 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #10 "It includes an integration of thinking, sensing, feeling, noticing, moving, breathing as an organic being"

    So true @Deb🐝 Lange.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    05/12/2016 #10 Deb🐝 Lange
    @Deb 🐝 Helfrich - how awesome that you trusted what you were sensing and had a session with @Max Carter - it is a very different way of working being with someone and being present to the energy in the container and within each person. Every talks ABOUT Transformation, few actually experience it or co-create it for themselves and for others. Transformation is visceral. Something that is felt, it changes our perception and way we experience our world, it changes something inside ourselves. I believe this is the shift we need. With all the information in the world, being passed around, it does not necessarily result in change. I have been musing about posting via the video app, in this way at least experience can energy across the internet and connect, or not just through words but through energy, tone, movement, gesture, imagery etc. I encourage people to experience the world "through" our body. It is a very different experience to thinking about the world. It includes an integration of thinking, sensing, feeling, noticing, moving, breathing as an organic being.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    05/12/2016 #9 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #8 'love and acceptance of living things the way they are, rather than the way we think they should be' So much said there, @Cyndi wilkins. We have these big brains, with complex reasoning skills, and we can really hurt ourselves and the people we try to love with our schemes and dreams and "clinging to our desires."

    I won't lie, it hurts to let go. And it certainly isn't a one time thing, I built some really strong neural pathways around a few dimensions of my life. But I am feeling some ease return to relatively mindless tasks and those faltering first steps into a new knowing.

    And, in essence, while Stella wanted her groove, Deb wanted her knowing back.
    Cyndi wilkins
    05/12/2016 #8 Cyndi wilkins
    Learning to actually let go of everything is a lesson in the purest form of love and acceptance of living things the way they are, rather than the way we think they should be. It's going with the flow, rather than clinging to our desires...It is life's way of teaching us humility and grace...And trusting that mother nature always has our best interests at heart...even when we resist her, she loves us anyway...A heart that loves is always torn...and we all need love...especially for oneself. I am finally getting there, and sounds like you have arrived too Deb Helfrich...What a long, strange trip it's been;-)
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    05/12/2016 #7 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #6 I appreciate the comment and shares, @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman. I believe that if we don't learn something new from everyone we interact with, then we are not asking the right questions.

    While Max can come across as abrasive in writing, he is quite a good listener, who truly intends to be helpful to the people he works with. He met me at where I was in regards to being outside of mainstream religion and only a moderate fan of rock and I am certain he would work with everyone at the place where they found themselves.

    Being very militant when it comes to conveying information doesn't necessarily mean that someone communicates like that in a conversation, and because I could see the person behind some of his stronger positions, I listened to my curiosity and was glad I reached out to have a session with him.
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    05/12/2016 #6 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Thank you, Deb, for sharing your experience about your conversation with Max. I enjoy his posts and explanations of his beliefs. I've found Max polite and helpful in our online discussions. I'm glad you found the conversation with Max useful.
  9. ProducerAli Anani

    Ali Anani

    Two illusions don't make a fact
    Two illusions don't make a factJoris Plaatstaal made a great comment on one of my recent buzzes titled "Conscious and Subconscious Questions". This comment led me to respond by saying that ""Between freedom and illusion there is a borderline of knowledge." Joris responded by...


    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    07/12/2016 #91 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #90 Harvey, when freedom has to be within the confines of more than one person, then that freedom is connected by an ideology. I am not free of illusion and I am not free of ideology. For sure where there is illusion it is the barrier to truth, and so where illusion is, truth is not.

    The reason I am not free of illusion or ideology is that I have not chosen to subject myself to that level of uncertainty. So for now I am settling for the blessings found in the illusions I hold.

    Freedom from illusion is among the toughest if not THE toughest challenge for any human. I don't want to suggest that word blessings equates with freedom, if we had freedom, why would we be counting our blessings? Blessings are an ideology.
    Harvey Lloyd
    07/12/2016 #90 Harvey Lloyd
    #89 Within an illusion can there really be truth? If so it would have to be dynamic.

    This is where i guess i part company with the illusion metaphor of existence.

    Freedom has to be within the confines of more than one person. My existence and beliefs establishes conflict within the freedom viewpoint. But no necessarily and illusion.

    Clearly some boundaries and these boundaries need to be held in some form of dynamic ever-evolving search for truth.

    This i deem to be thriving/living. Life is an illusion if we live in singularity on an island.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    07/12/2016 #89 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #87 and #88 : The Yin and Yang of the illusion of freedom is that there is this hidden dependencies but there are also blessings. Authority as a dependency can create a very hostile and toxic world and here authority really is competing constituencies and the toxic power struggles in academia is a good example of that.

    Life lived n any bubble will eventually burst, and our own contribution in a bubble can be something we are unconscious about. The illusion of freedom does however also bring to the fore considerable blessings also. It is in our DNA to deconstruct and tamper/tinker with things that escalate challenges, often we call these challenges "opportunity" but more often than note these challenges come up against competing interests.

    A poignant word for authority then is "special interest". We think of special interest in terms of large scale effects, so we condemn practices that represent special interest, but special interest exists in the micro world also. Without consideration of blessings, we warp or shift attention to the darker side of illusion. The welcomed side of illusion is a capacity we all can have, which is our imagination, it is imagination that can move us towards truth, unless our occupation (what occupies us)
    Harvey Lloyd
    07/12/2016 #88 Harvey Lloyd
    #85 This was a great comment and thought process. The illusion of freedom brought on by hidden dependencies.

    I believe 9/11 showed us a micro scale disruption that could be easily scaled up by a 5th grader.

    With population growth we are asking technology to grow food, make things cheaper etc. (The article you linked shows that immediate term fixes have future consequences.) With growth we are useing technology to serve, while eliminating jobs with the technology, this seems counter-intuitive.

    The illusion for myself is more that we talk about unrelated issues of the short term while the devil is stealing our future. This statement could apply across a few thousand different issues. From Social to Fiscal we are sacrificing our future for intermediate gains that history has already tried and we have the results from those endeavours.

    If we are not already living inside an illusion we are building one.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    07/12/2016 #87 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #85 We create these dependencies.

    . If you take the farmer metaphor what you have is an academic community living in the illusion of control called authority.

    If you look at the rest of their world that is oppressed by the rules of academia you have the oppressed acting as nature showing the farmer their idea of control is nothing more than an illusion.

    I had to dig to find the scientists who have found the flaws in the Theory of relativity and found a great documentary in which they discussed being shunned by the academic community to keep their stranglehold on progress based in what feeds their funding for their research.

    Nature does no actually conspire against the farmer it is the farmer that conspires against nature under the delusional thinking that one has control over anything.

    The only thing that puts an end to an illusion is popping the bubble and pulling back the veil.

    I realize why the academic community feels threaten by this as it in a way destroys their authority and ability to dictate who is allowed to contribute based on their rules.

    Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come just as the farmer can not stop the changing of the seasons as they come.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    07/12/2016 #86 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #85 We create these dependencies by insisting to live the way we do.

    Take your metaphor and apply it to the evolution of thought and discovery and what you have is the rest of the world feeling the oppression of the academic community in attempting to be heard based on the illusion they have created that they have the authority of who should and should not be allowed to contribute.

    Hence the scientists who have been shunned in recent years for finding flaws with the theory of relativity.

    Their research gets almost no attention and in fact I had to dig to find them. There is a great documentary about it on netflix.

    It;s a great example of an illusion being used and having others seeing pass the illusion into the actual.

    As the farmer has nature conspiring against his illusion that he has control over the process.....
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    07/12/2016 #85 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #81 We don't see illusion because milk comes from a jug in the fridge, water comes from a turn of a faucet in the sink, bread comes from a shelf in a supermarket, light comes from a switch on the wall, and it is when these things are disrupted that we come face to face with our dependency, and what we are dependent on is this illusion of freedom. This illusion is a form of learned helplessness even for the farmer we think has a deeper connection with nature or the land and even here he system can still conspire against the farmer as they begin to conspire against nature, for when short-term thinking is an act of survival it is what disconnects people. http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/09/no-gmos-didnt-create-indias-farmer-suicide-problem
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    07/12/2016 #84 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #82If you are going to take the time to respond take the time t write out something that is actually a complete thought.

    #81 No one can control the decisions of others. This free will.

    The best any one of us can do is to promote the benefits to all to put an end to authority driven behavior which is driven by a narcissist view of ones self that say one is the authority or has authority of anything or anyone.

    The unfortunately the reality we share is that yes if you had status and power and money more people would listen as those are the markers they are using to determine who is worth listening to.

    If you haven't become some one noted for writing a book, people will not give two shits about it and move on as we have been programmed to see that only those who have written books have the authority to tell anything and it this structure that allows academia to keep a strangle hold on progress and discovery unless yo do it through the prepackaged and academic approved steps

    The academic structure is what inhibits your freedom to express a view and a message we both share Joris that people need to stop living in the illusions and be less delusional in their thinking.

    If you don't follow their steps you are just some dude running at the mouth.

    This is the heart of what retards progress worldwide for humanity in growth and evolution of thought.

    The Academic community restricts the freedom of others to be heard and be seen as understanding what they are taling about unless they do it the academics way.
    Joris Plaatstaal
    07/12/2016 #83 Joris Plaatstaal
    #72 Or is it? My limiting factor? Think about it.

    I am free, yes I am. The question is, what am I going to do with this state of mind? Crawl back under a rock and amaze myself about the stupidity of mankind?
    Saying to myself I am smart and mankind is stupid?

    That would be a pitiful illusion of freedom.

    Running away from it all seems to get confused with freedom. "I don't care, so I am free".....

    I can only be free if you all can be free. That is what I want.

    Work for what you want is freedom, not work for what ' they' want or run away from it all, that would be just 'conformism'. We have plenty of those.....
    Joris Plaatstaal
    06/12/2016 #82 Joris Plaatstaal
    #75 Freedom and discipline. Black and white. Water and fire. Chaos and determinism. Life and existence. Question and truth.
    Joris Plaatstaal
    06/12/2016 #81 Joris Plaatstaal
    #74 Great comment @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. Just the thing I want to talk about.You say it so much better than I can do.

    "Our marketed paradise", bulls eye........

    "The freedom of uncertainty is freedom from illusion."

    We can not make humanity embrace the rules of freedom. Uncertainty is relatively easy for me, living in Holland. Uncertainty may be hell on earth for 'Jacob' living in Aleppo.

    Even in the western world I can understand why people live in a illusion. In other parts of the world, people need to do what they do to survive. To take care of their children. Maybe even have dreams.

    I do not care about my own freedom. I do not think I am a better person, because I embraced the principles of chaos.

    I am confused about who I should support. And, when I make up my mind, the question arises. How. How can I support? Who do I support?
    Who deserves it and who doesn't?

    Questions that limit my freedom. I do not know what to do. How can I make people see the benefits of altruistic chaos? The peace in it?

    I can't. Even my soulmate for life, seems to think that everything comes easy and natural to me.

    How can I make us love life, in stead of money, property, status and power? When all I hear people say it is easy for me, since I gave those things up. At the same time not noticing they have so much more than people living in hell?

    Is my voice stronger if I would have money, property, status and power? Is that what it takes? Do I even want to consider that?

    But, hey. That is my problem.

    Thank you for your comment.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    05/12/2016 #80 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    #79 Journey just begun...with curiousity...and awe. Glad to be learning from and sharing with fellow travelers far away and far ahead dear Ali ji.
    Ali Anani
    05/12/2016 #79 Ali Anani
    #78 And you have traveled the path wonderfully dear @Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    05/12/2016 #78 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    #77 Indeed Sir, so much to learn and discover! There are many before us in every country and place, who have travelled those paths and left behind words of wisdom to help us along the way. We all have our respective literary legacies and scriptures. And any man of letters worth his salt, would first access those before he or she would write his/her own version of Life's interpretation, validated by experiences. Thank you for inspiring thought as always!
    Ali Anani
    05/12/2016 #77 Ali Anani
    #76 Never ever you fall short of my high expectations of you dear @Praveen Raj Gullepalli. I loved your comments and quotes. I need to absorb more thoroughly to digest them. I loved this "The depraved, the foolish, do not surrender unto me; their discrimination is degraded by the illusory energy they betake to the nature of the demoniac". SO much to learn and ponder on.
    Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    05/12/2016 #76 Praveen Raj Gullepalli
    Dear Ali, Illusion is one of the earliest words I picked up, both in English and my native tongues (Telugu and Hindi). This is solely due to the many tales told us and read, that keep saying that our very life is an illusion caught between the sleeping and waking states :) Knowledge, Freedom, and such things that take up our time and effort can be misleading, especially more so in the present day and age, unless looked at through the microscope of discrimination. And I am still a child toying with my illusions! :) As I write this, I can hear the strains of the Bhagavad Geetha (The Song of the Divine/Lord...a most definitive, holy treatise on life and living for Hindus, a sermon delivered by one of our many God avatars, Lord Krishna, (as the charioteer of Arjuna, his loving devoted warrior disciple, who wants to stop battling right in the middle of a battlefield). It is being played in a mobile van (one of many that are deployed in the city) with the legend Anthim Yatra (Final Journey), used to transport the decorated dead to the burial or cremation grounds. There! It has moved out of range now! I will share a few translated verses from this book just to add to the thread and the thought (no other intention pls)...I quote from it: Those deprived of discrimination by various desires impelled by their particular natures worship the lesser demigods adapting to the applicable rites and rituals. The depraved, the foolish, do not surrender unto me; their discrimination is degraded by the illusory energy they betake to the nature of the demoniac. O Arjuna, at the commencement of universal creation all forms of life are in delusion by the illusions of duality born of desire and aversion, O conqueror of enemies. http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-07-15.html
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    05/12/2016 #75 Max🐝 J. Carter
    I tend to follow the teachings of Bruce Lee who taught that we are the only ones that can put limits on ourselves and I often find it is due to fear of having that freedom and what we might do with it..

    Freedom with self discipline provides higher probability of healthy exploration of that freedom. .
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    04/12/2016 #74 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #66 Joris Plaatstaal you said "Freedom scares many of them, it involves losing certainties" and in a marketed paradise certainty becomes a euphemism for freedom, and the chief reason freedom scares people is that certainty also creates fear about its potential loss. Where fear is not pervasive certainty can create an oasis of freedom - and these freedoms involve growth in choice.

    Yet the freedom that certainty gives is far different from the freedom that uncertainty gives - unless again fear invades uncertainty. Our learned disposition is that uncertainty is bad because the chief cement of social order is certainty.

    Our marketed paradise uses uncertainty to get us to buy things - so in a typical advertisement we may be temporarily reminded of a pain and it is the product message that brings us back to certainty i.e. in the pathos approach [See Pathos, Logos, Ethos in link] http://www.readwritethink.org/files/resources/lesson_images/lesson1166/PersuasiveTechniques.pdf

    It is our emotional centers that attune freedom with certainty, but it is our prefrontal cortex that can free us from our emotional conditioning to recognize the true freedom in uncertainty. The freedom of uncertainty is freedom from illusion.
    Ali Anani
    04/12/2016 #72 Ali Anani
    #66 @Joris Plaatstaal- I am amazed by what you wrote "It is not in my genes to choose for my own freedom. And that is a limiting factor". Yes, it is
    Ali Anani
    04/12/2016 #71 Ali Anani
    #64 I believe if one questions self it means there is no 100% trust and therefore keeps trying and learning. Thank you @Mohammed Sultan
  10. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Thanks for the great conversation @Max🐝 J. Carter. It was time truly well spent. Every time I have had a call with someone I've connected with online, I feel enriched by adding voice and sometimes sight to the interaction, and our talk about life and how best to make a change was no exception. I appreciate your time! Deb 🐝 Helfrich


    🐝 Fatima Williams
    01/12/2016 #4 🐝 Fatima Williams
    I'm in queue πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    01/12/2016 #3 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #2 Feel free to hit me up any time Jared.
    Jared 🐝 Wiese
    01/12/2016 #2 Jared 🐝 Wiese
    Awww, man! Where's 3-way calling when you need it ;)
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    01/12/2016 #1 Max🐝 J. Carter
    Thank you @Deb 🐝 Helfrich I found the conversation quite enriching myself and look forward to our future conversations.

    It was shard time, yours and mine and your time was truly valued. and appreciated.
  11. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Good ideas are like the waves of the ocean, they just keep arriving on shore. I might just have a series of these. I bet we all do...... Deb 🐝 Helfrich


    Jared 🐝 Wiese
    17/12/2016 #9 Jared 🐝 Wiese
    #6 Thanks for the tag, Deb. Great idea!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    17/12/2016 #8 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #7 Yep, have fun - use a beBee graphic from the site. I just mentioned you on another example - he stuck a little more to the core format, but used his own actual job title. This was just a quick test - see what folks said
    Mike Rana
    17/12/2016 #7 Mike Rana
    Do you mean creating one? I can't claim the Ambassador label yet, but I could create a graphic similar to this as long as there's no objection to me putting the BE logo on it.#6
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    17/12/2016 #6 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    @Mike Rana - The brand graphic you saw on LI is a brand persona. Optimized for mass appeal. But it is rather easy to run with the idea like I did.

    Would like to see you take a shot at it. Now that I think about it, I should put this at the bottom of my buzzes...

    @Jared 🐝 Wiese - forgot a couple... :)
    🐝 Fatima Williams
    29/11/2016 #5 🐝 Fatima Williams
    A wave full of ideas and a bustling sound of spreading happiness around.@Deb 🐝 Helfrich The sky, the earth and the ocean is not the limit for you my dear.
    Mohammed Sultan
    29/11/2016 #4 Mohammed Sultan
    @Deb,Your ideas not only hit the shore of the pacific ,but also hit our imagination.I find such expressions quite natural.Since they convey instinctive feelings which many of us on beBee have had about nature.
    Ali Anani
    29/11/2016 #2 Ali Anani
    With such a great buzz you are truly A Brand Ambassador of beBee @Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Paul Kearley 🐝
    29/11/2016 #1 Paul Kearley 🐝
    oh that's very nice Deb!!
  12. ProducerLiesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    After Eight
    After EightDark. Clouded. His hotel room felt lonely. Outside footsteps in the corridor. French music. The sheets covered his skinny body. Soft touch. His hand reached for his partner. She was downstairs, having breakfast. She wrote him a little love note. He...


    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    01/12/2016 #16 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #12 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh @Deb Helfrich, your comments are always a blessing. Thank you.
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    01/12/2016 #15 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #11 I have an idea, give me some time ;-) @Donna-Luisa Eversley. To be continued ...
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    01/12/2016 #14 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #10 thanks so much @Franci Eugenia Hoffman. Super sweet to say.
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    01/12/2016 #13 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #9 what a beautiful name for this monument! Thanks @Pascal Derrien!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    30/11/2016 #12 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #11 @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador is incredibly good at this particular genre, but I honestly would like you to write your own, @Donna-Luisa Eversley, as what you write about, you bring about
    Donna-Luisa Eversley
    29/11/2016 #11 Donna-Luisa Eversley
    #8 @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador think you might need to put me in one of your romance stories, but a fantastic guy ...so I can dream a wee bit
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    29/11/2016 #10 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Beautifully written, Liesbeth. It's so nice to read a beautiful and romantic love story.
    Pascal Derrien
    29/11/2016 #9 Pascal Derrien
    The Old Iron Lady is always source of inspiration, I got back to my hometown for a minute .... thank you coffee is on me :-)
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    29/11/2016 #8 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #7 your wish to be made real, Christmas is coming soon, the magic of Christmas makes your deepest desire reality, @Donna-Luisa Eversley
    Donna-Luisa Eversley
    29/11/2016 #7 Donna-Luisa Eversley
    @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador, if you keep this up I will be sure to ask you to be a matchmaker for me 🐝🐝🌼🌼 indeed it is mesmerising and romantic and beautiful...memories.
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    28/11/2016 #6 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #3 @Deb Helfrich, you are the best, always a pleasure to read your comments!
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    28/11/2016 #5 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #4 oooooh wow, thank you, @Gert Scholtz
    Gert Scholtz
    26/11/2016 #4 Gert Scholtz
    @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador The most moving short love story I have read in a long time. Magnificent Liesbeth!
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    26/11/2016 #3 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Soul inspiring, @Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador. This piece is spectacular.
    Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    26/11/2016 #2 Liesbeth 🐝 Leysen, MSc. beBee Brand Ambassador
    #1 agree, thank you @Rene Winteraeken
  13. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    "The group that created "Weightless", Marconi Union, did so in collaboration with sound therapists. Its carefully arranged harmonies, rhythms, and bass lines help slow a listener's heart rate, reduce blood pressure and lower levels of the stress hormone cortisol."

    "In fact, listening to that one song -- "Weightless" -- resulted in a striking 65 percent reduction in participants' overall anxiety, and a 35 percent reduction in their usual physiological resting rates."

    Quotes from article on Inc: http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
    Marconi Union - Weightless (Official Video)
    Marconi Union - Weightless (Official Video) + Subscribe to the Most Relaxing Playlist on Spotify: http://bit.ly/MostRelaxingPlaylist + Follow Just Music on Spotify http://bit.ly/JustMusicSpotify...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    26/11/2016 #6 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #5 I don't think this was specifically engineered as binaural, it wasn't mentioned in the article.
    Aurorasa Sima
    26/11/2016 #5 Aurorasa Sima
    Interesting. Is it recommended to listen with headphones?
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    25/11/2016 #4 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #3 I basically listen to water - rain & ocean sounds - and Karma Moffett's work with Tibetan Bowls.

    In fact, I just put on Ocean Bowls and it worked faster than this, because I am entrained.
    Shawn Quinlivan, C.Ht.
    25/11/2016 #3 Shawn Quinlivan, C.Ht.
    #2 There is a profound world of ambient music out there. Some is more structured and compositional, some less. I listen to this kind of music while meditation and reading. It stirs the subconscious imagery.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    25/11/2016 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #1 This is the first I have heard of them, it took me less than 60 seconds to realize I wanted to make sure I had this for repeat listening. I still haven't gotten to the end....maybe I got too excited to have another way to relax....and as I have pointed out in other contexts, when we share videos to beBee, we can listen ad free. So I have been bookmarking the beBee buzz, rather than saving to my playlist on youtube.....
    Shawn Quinlivan, C.Ht.
    25/11/2016 #1 Shawn Quinlivan, C.Ht.
    Love Marconi Union, especially this piece. Therapy for me! Thanks for sharing, @Deb 🐝 Helfrich.
  14. Sara Jacobovici

    Sara Jacobovici

    A great story teller telling a great story. A must hear, especially for the beBee community.
    Sara Jacobovici
    Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: The danger of a single story | TED Talk | TED.com
    www.ted.com Our lives, our cultures, are composed of many overlapping stories. Novelist Chimamanda Adichie tells the story of how she found her authentic cultural voice -- and warns that if we hear only a single story about another person or country, we risk a...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    25/11/2016 #6 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    I have read her novel "Americanah" and it is a fascinating look into the disconnect that Africans feel as they confront African-American culture.

    I would also love to urge anyone who has found themselves equating internet scammers with Nigerian princes to watch this talk - it is a damaging stereotype.

    And to tell a personal story, I have to credit books with the fact that my freshmen year African roommate, who was from Ghana, did not have to bunk with someone who had no African stories of real people.

    I want to challenge us all, let's ask people about their stories, rather than make generalized assumptions.
    Ali Anani
    25/11/2016 #5 Ali Anani
    #4 Thank you for sharing it and providing this splendid comment @Sara Jacobovici. It is a great and inspiring video
    Sara Jacobovici
    25/11/2016 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    @Harvey Lloyd wrote:

    "This video really does share the forest of human existence so well.

    The forest is full of many trees and each tells us a story. In today's narrative, it would appear, we overlook many trees of the human existence. We seek out those trees that offer us a dramatic, emotional view rather than the typical.

    The 80/20 rule is alive and well. The 20 describes the 80. A biased story or narrative that ensnares our imagination."
    Tony 🐝 Rossi
    25/11/2016 #3 Tony 🐝 Rossi
    Yes, @Sara Jacobovici - this is perfectly poignant for our community, and such a wonderful message for the world to hear! :-)
    Ali Anani
    25/11/2016 #2 Ali Anani
    Great and thank you my friend @Harvey Lloyd for tagging me. I am going to watch now.
    I have just published a buzz dedicated to you. I hope it is worthy. I strongly invite dear @Sara Jacobovici to read as I belive it shall help her with further developing the movement equation.
    Harvey Lloyd
    25/11/2016 #1 Harvey Lloyd
    @Ali Anani this video shared by @Sara Jacobovici really does share the forest of human existence so well i wanted to tag you.

    The forest is full of many trees and each tells us a story. In today's narrative, it would appear, we overlook many trees of the human existence. We seek out those trees that offer us a dramatic, emotional view rather than the typical.

    The 80/20 rule is alive and well. The 20 describes the 80. A biased story or narrative that ensnares our imagination.

    I enjoyed this talk and sense it is relevant even within America.
  15. CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    The day I finally got all the kids to agree to watch the kind of movie I like to watch was the day they ALL fell asleep inside the first 15 minutes. I don't blame them because the film MINDWALK directed by Bernt Amadeus Capra (Brother of Fritjof Capra) really begins after 17 minutes when the three principal characters meet for the first time. The movie stars Liv Ullman who speaks on the perspective of whole systems thinking and the resulting dialogue introduces emergence as way of seeing. Next time I watch MINDWALK - for sure I will watch it alone, but I for one, really love the depth of it even if my own kids have learned to avoid it like the plague.
    //// MINDWALK /// 1990 movie
    //// MINDWALK /// 1990 movie Mindwalk ~!~ the movie is a 1990 feature film directed by Bernt Amadeus Capra, based on his own short story, based in turn on the book The Turning Point by...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    24/11/2016 #10 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #6 I really think this was a brilliant idea - a movie-viewing club, if you will.

    The setup of having a politician who is taken stage by stage through this journey of seeing the interconnectedness of everything, even up to the last bit where the poet challenges the physicist as to whether all this knowledge is worth as much as having love in your life. We discuss these themes daily in a multitude of ways, but most of my country is shrouded in self-interest and fear.

    How do we get them to a version of Mont St-Michel with enough time to be taken on a journey to open their eyes?

    I'm just a philosopher waiting to meet my politician, but none seem to come to my hermitage - hence my commenting dedication.
    Aurorasa Sima
    24/11/2016 #9 Aurorasa Sima
    #5 Hahaha, well thatΒ΄s reality tv. I mean ... life. From their point of view, it makes sense. They invite you to watch exciting movies, and they donΒ΄t expect analysis as a reaction.

    I hardly know any current US movies. I watched one this year, "something-something fantastic beasts" ... by the Lady who made Harry Potter. Left me feeling disappointed.

    I bet you gladly pay the high price and proudly watch your kids while they force you into the mind-numbing experience (:
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    24/11/2016 #8 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #7 Dear Sara, there is media which we can watch over a life and there is media which we consume as knowledge. This is what I would love to convey to my own kids, about this ability to sit with something, rather than move from one media experience to another. It is hard to teach that when this is something that we cultivate ourselves. In the way that you come to life and that sensibility is something we share, when you do watch this, I hope that you find it as enriching as I have, and still continue to do. Moreover Bernt directed this movie based on his brothers book, which is the share you have already seen in Fritjof Capra.
    Sara Jacobovici
    24/11/2016 #7 Sara Jacobovici
    #6 Great find @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I am looking forward to watching it at my first opportunity.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    24/11/2016 #6 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #3 Deb, I really hope that what you have expressed here draws both @Ali Anani and @Sara Jacobovici to view Mindwalk. Your observations are most helpful in that regard because it is meaning that makes a movie.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    24/11/2016 #5 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #1 It may be just the opposite Aurorasa, they have no idea what they are paying in being bored by it because they want an escape, whereas I am watching a movie because it is involving me to think. Every weekend they invite me to watch movies that "normal" people watch and when I do sit down on the rare occasion that one of their flicks grabs my attention, then they are telling me not to talk over their movie - which means I must accept the mind-numbing part of the popular movie experience - and that for me is the real price. First they want me to share the experience with them, but when I do share the experience with them, they are telling me to shut up :-)
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    24/11/2016 #4 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    #2 That is the beauty isn't it :-) That we have learned to see things in a way that is strange for others, yet if they did see what we see, the strange reality is that they would never go back to the way that used to see things. This is more than just viewing life as a stereogram http://www.hidden-3d.com/how_to_view_stereogram.php but that serves as a good example about seeing differently - when people see the hidden image in a stereogram, that is a practical way of showing someone that there is in life different ways of seeing.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    24/11/2016 #3 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    "The essence lies in the relationship (1:01) ....a series of interconnections like chords sequenced into melody.

    At (1:21) is a great definition of systems theory

    1:32 - what has to stop is the obsessive pursuit of growth

    This was sooo worth watching! Apart from the fact that we are essentially stuck in the very same place when it comes to change.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    24/11/2016 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    You had me at Mont St Michel, as the movie cliche would go....then you said... "emergence as a way of seeing" Hooked, I am.

    Who knew one could watch an entire movie on beBee? That is systems thinking, Manjit!
    Aurorasa Sima
    24/11/2016 #1 Aurorasa Sima
    I hope you did not pay too much to get your kids to sleep-watch it (:
  16. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Just in time for the holiday - Mark M-G points out that we can judge people's actions, but not their whole being. Tell him you stopped by from beBee, as I am working to bring him over to the hives.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    What about judgment?
    www.linkedin.com (I first posted this about a year ago and make no apology for offering it to people again. Doing so - and reading people's comments - is an important reminder for me of many things.Β I hope that...


    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    24/11/2016 #2 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    I hope so. He's a great writer and would be as asset to beBee.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    23/11/2016 #1 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    @Milos Djukic & @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman - our friend is on the tipping point of joining us.

    And this post is a much needed reminder.
  17. ProducerNikki Petersen

    Nikki Petersen

    Dabrowski's Sweater
    Dabrowski's SweaterA post from @Ali Anani brought DΔ…browski to the front of my mind today. Β If you're not familiar withΒ Kazimierz DΔ…browski, he was a psychologist that was particularly interested in the development and functioning of gifted children. Β He brought us...


    Ben Pinto
    27/11/2016 #23 Ben Pinto
    I enjoyed this very much. Thank you. With all the buzz in the business world of being transparent I have recently been using clear fish line for all of my knitting. I made my choice and I am sticking to it; no one can call me a nitpicker.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    27/11/2016 #22 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    This buzz was difficult for me to position because it spans different spectrum's of my own learning journey. I originally connected it to my yellow hive because it talked about Dabrowski (who I have not yet acquainted myself with) and curiosity about his work with "gifted children" as an intellectual treatise. If I however focused my attention on self or physical development I would have connected it to my green hive. In the end as I worked my way though it, I actually connected to my blue hive, because what I was actually picking up from this buzz was actually covering thoughts around managerial capability development and managing transitions - and so I plugged in to the business or entrepreneurial lens, and when I engage my follow up study of Dabrowski (probably after the New Year) that is how I am going to incorporate this into my learning journey. So in a strange way the connection I ended up making in my mind was linking the context of Dabrowski to the transitions Ram Charan talks about in his adaptation he calls "Leadership Pipeline" http://www.ram-charan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Leadership-Pipeline-sample.pdf - that adaptation by itself is based on the work of Elliott Jaques. Jaques was also a psychologist, but his work was originally pioneered through the Tavistock Institute. Jaques BTW beyond is work on work level transitions is famous for creating/studying the term he coined as "Mid Life Crisis".
    Sara Jacobovici
    27/11/2016 #21 Sara Jacobovici
    #19 Thank you @Nikki Petersen, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Children with children, parents with parents, anytime you bring people together, they can become territorial and offensive by making assumptions and judgments. Sad but true. The word narrative comes to mind. We each have an internal story with characters, voices, messages that have been carried over from childhood to adulthood. This narrative is fluid, ebbs and flows. It can be a great way to look at identity as it involves who we are without labels. An ongoing process but definitely worth the effort.
    Nikki Petersen
    27/11/2016 #20 Nikki Petersen
    #18 Oh, yes, I didn't have my meta hat on yet (not enough coffee onboard just yet). Sorry I missed that bit. Absolutely, the cycle is passed from parent to child and onward. Hopefully the good and the bad. My kids are learning about their own challenges and strengths, and as I teach them, I also teach them about their parents and grandparents in the same context. They're pretty meta, as well, so they get the breadth and depth of it all. They understand that I want them to learn my values but to develop their own sense of self, because I tell them that daily. I hope that it will have the impact I'm aiming for, in that I want them to be more evolved than my generation (as I am more evolved than the one before mine). No easy feat for a single parent!
    Nikki Petersen
    27/11/2016 #19 Nikki Petersen
    #9 @Sara Jacobovici, yes, this is such a deeply personal journey of self-discovery, and only one piece of it. The "G-word" as it's often referred to, has such variable impact on different audiences. Some people do react quite aggressively to it. Parents on the playground can turn downright mean when I say that one, tiny four-letter word. Friends have completely dismissed me, believing that I must be an attention seeker and that I'm not all that (and a bag of chips), and if I'm so smart why aren't I saving the world or at least some small corner of it.

    But giftedness is more than intelligence. There are so many challenges related to giftedness that it's a wonder anyone can even see the IQ side of it. For quite some time, I fought for it to be more widely accepted. I am currently in a phase of not particularly identifying with it myself. You're right, though -- it is a label and if not given great care in handling, labels can turn into pathologies.
    Harvey Lloyd
    27/11/2016 #18 Harvey Lloyd
    #17 I guess i was referring to the handing down of experience to our children as creating the loop. Parenting is the challenge. We want our children to gain from our experience, yet they themselves are unique and must experience things for themselves.

    Unfortunately or fortunately depending on context, i agree, once we transcend one level we can't put the genie back in the bottle. Thanks for your response and i am reading further on this concept, it is fasinating.
    Nikki Petersen
    27/11/2016 #17 Nikki Petersen
    #14 @Harvey Lloyd, I never thought of it as circular, but can see what you mean. I've always considered there to be two transitions, between levels I and II, and another between IV and V, the former being that you realize you can change and the latter a realization that you are the driver of your own change. I don't feel like you can go backward once you've overcome that transition, but in reality there are a number of dips "down" into the lower levels as we ebb and flow as humans.

    Thanks for your comments.
    Nikki Petersen
    27/11/2016 #16 Nikki Petersen
    #15 @Harvey Lloyd, parenting creates additional challenges to the ideas that Dabrowski brought forth. Understanding your kids and helping them understand themselves, while trying not to unduly influence them too far in one direction or another, but teaching them your values . . . is no simple task. And it doesn't even address their own individual challenges.
    Luckily, my own children are so open, loving, and patient with me.
    Harvey Lloyd
    25/11/2016 #15 Harvey Lloyd
    "Advances in society, through politics, philosophy and religion, are therefore commonly associated with strong individual creativity or accomplishments." (Wikipedia) I found this statement compelling, especially in today's climate.

    I may be stretching the concept but with minor generalization this statement of Level 5 "Secondary Integration" would offer a path of parenting. The implications would be less authoritative and more influential in offering a philosophy/religion to our youth that establishes fundamental spiritual guidance and then allow them to experience life on their own. "Autopsychotherapy" as he described. The American Indian described this as a "Vision Quest"

    Our youth seeing life through neutral truths of philosophy and religion could then establish their journey through the levels/planes without the bias of the parent's journey. This is great in theory but difficult to practice. The actions of the parents are greater than the words. We are human and sometimes our actions are less than our words.

    Interesting perspective.
    Harvey Lloyd
    25/11/2016 #14 Harvey Lloyd
    Thanks for introducing Kazimierz DΔ…browski and his theories @Nikki Petersen. I enjoy reading about the various studies of human nature. I do find that most theories focus on self and the comparison to the social plane of existence. Typically this social plane of existence is seen as negative or as a hindrance to self. I am not well read on the Professors works but would appear at first glance, you are above, at or below the social plane when compared to the human experience. These concepts tend to focus our attention on the "fit" from a perspective of our own existence, in an effort to achieve the higher plane, presumably for our own peace and joy.

    To some degree, this is a circular arguement. Certainly, the goal is to find our place in society where we experience some level of peace and joy or contentment if you will. In my belief we can't separate the human from society, no more than we can separate a tree from water. But this form of psychology tends to want us to find a higher plane than those that we exist within.

    In reading the basis for Level Five "Secondary Integration" he offers up "Advances in society, through politics, philosophy and religion, are therefore commonly associated with strong individual creativity or accomplishments." (Wikipedia) Do we not create a loop or circular argument that at this level we challenge our children or social groups to hear, read and understand our higher plane. Ultimately becoming the cause and effect on those within the Level one diagnosis?

    From a business perspective, specifically leadership i would tend to agree with the concepts offered up here. But would further contend that cognitive dissonance would be a factor in our personal vs professional life.
    Nelson RogΓ©rio
    24/11/2016 #13 Nelson RogΓ©rio
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    Nelson RogΓ©rio
    24/11/2016 #12 Nelson RogΓ©rio
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    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    24/11/2016 #11 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #7 That is a very nuanced and astute reply, @Nikki Petersen. Comfort is a big theme in my life. And I believe a large part of what I have to offer in my brand - but until you put it like that, I saw comfort as only a personal pursuit.

    Not to mention having a huge, life-changing disintegration phase is distinctly uncomfortable...
    debasish majumder
    24/11/2016 #10 debasish majumder
    nice insight @Nikki Petersen! enjoyed read. thank you for the share.
    Sara Jacobovici
    24/11/2016 #9 Sara Jacobovici
    #6 Dear @Nikki Petersen, if I gave you the impression that I am deeply offended or in any way offended about giftedness or my being or not being gifted, then that was not my intent. In our struggles with identity, the exploration process of who we are is a dynamic and very personal one. It is imperative to discover things about ourselves that allow us to make sense of who we are. At the same time we have our individual identity while we live within a community; where do we belong? As social animals we need both; our own unique fingerprint and being a member of a society of others. I embrace similarities and am in awe of differences. For me its all part of the same whole. I suppose what I could of been reacting to was being told who I am based on certain characteristics. It reminded me of how I felt when I was labelled a feminist when I was engaged in issues related to empowering women. I am not a feminist and am not offended by feminism.
    Nikki Petersen
    24/11/2016 #8 Nikki Petersen
    #2 @Chris Dixon thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it.
    Nikki Petersen
    24/11/2016 #7 Nikki Petersen
    #1 Hi @Deb Helfrich, thank you for your comments. I wonder if your connection between your dog's soft fur is actually part of your need for comfort? You seek for your memoir to be comforting in some way, I assume? If the sales aren't breaking records, maybe you feel like your creation isn't reaching its intended audience, and thus not providing comfort? This can definitely make you feel like you're doing something wrong in your business, and like maybe you're just not hitting the mark with your entrepreneurial efforts. That's when you look around and wonder if there's something missing, if you're working with the best materials, and if you should even being doing what you're doing. That's the disintegration piece. I've been there. It is a disturbing place to be.
    Nikki Petersen
    24/11/2016 #6 Nikki Petersen
    #3 @Sara Jacobovici, many adults are not aware of their giftedness, and I didn't mean to put anyone into that box. I don't consider it labeling. Frequently, the discovery process takes a long time and involves a lot of denial. For some, giftedness is irrelevant. For others, it is an explanation for why they've felt so out-of-place their entire lives. I wonder why you have such a strong objection to being classified as gifted, if you identify with so many of the characteristics? What is it about giftedness that offends you so deeply?
    Nikki Petersen
    24/11/2016 #5 Nikki Petersen
    #4 @Ali Anani, thank you for your kind words. I think one of the deepest misconceptions about giftedness is that it is defined purely by IQ or intellect. For me, the hallmarks are deep curiosity, intensity in pretty much everything, and a drive to learn. You certainly have all of those. :)
    Ali Anani
    22/11/2016 #4 Ali Anani
    I am honored by my mention in your post @Nikki Petersen. I am also pleased that our first "encounter" led to this interesting buzz.As two of my favorite people @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and @Sara Jacobovici I say WOW! Than you Deb for tagging me to this enjoyable and challenging nbuzz.
    The post Nikki refers to is for documentation is:
    I voiced a similar resoonse tio ine of Nikki's comments on the linked buzz by saying "But, I would love to know about those people who are less gifted- do they leave what they gained out of what? This is a question that you got my mind percolating about". So, the comment of Sara here throws relevant points.
    As you wrote NIkki in your buzz "The way to change it is by receiving new input, new opinions, new feedback, and new socialization that reflects new ideas. With all that newness, it’s not shocking that people resist change, is it??
    WEll, I assure you I say wow because you gave me new ideas, new perspectives and ways to knit my sweater the way I wish. I don't know if I am gifted or not, but I shall try to knit my own. Thank you
  18. ProducerJoel Anderson

    Joel Anderson

    Lines in the Sand
    Lines in the Sandβ€œNever be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.” ― William Faulkner I saw this photo and for...


    Joel Anderson
    17/11/2016 #18 Joel Anderson
    #17 @Sara Jacobovici Indeed. Thank you.
    Sara Jacobovici
    17/11/2016 #17 Sara Jacobovici
    #14 #15 @Joel Anderson and @Deb 🐝 Helfrich, your returning to DANCE reminds me of the fact that where there is life, there is movement.
    Joel Anderson
    16/11/2016 #16 Joel Anderson
    #15 Thank you @Deb 🐝 Helfrich Not that I am fixated on the topic of lines but your comment reminded me of a moment in time when my daughter and I were having a conversation about early childhood development. The discussion reminded me of a poignant experience in my life. Every once in awhile, my schedule would allow me to engage with my kids in their classrooms. On one occasion, I found myself sitting down with one of my daughters and a group of youngsters in a small classroom filled with a lot of these little future contributors. It was coloring time. One of the kids was getting frustrated and would color, stop, color, stop, look exasperated. I came over to see what the issue was and why the tears were welling up during an activity that was just supposed to be fun. I looked at this youngster, and then at the very clearly defined lines of a picture that were supposed to be colored within. In this particular case, the lines and marks of the crayons were all over the place. I just looked at the picture and this young child and said, "this is one of the most beautiful pictures I have ever seen." In an instant, the tears subsided, a smile arrived and the coloring went on with a renewed passion and sense of purpose. And it didn't hurt that I was handed a crayon to help color my own lines. My initial inclination was to color within the lines but was told with emphasis--"Its Ok to color outside of the lines." It is all about perspective. :)
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    16/11/2016 #15 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #14 This is perhaps one of the best responses I have ever gotten, @Joel Anderson. And I have pondered a little more about leaving footprints and lines in the sand. Because it is important to take the difficult stands and draw the crucial lines.

    I think that it is not the marks themselves that matter, it is the ability to make them again and again and again when life gives us the moments that matter. And to be willing to make the marks so often - DANCE! - that we become known as people who will make the footprints and lines.
    Joel Anderson
    16/11/2016 #14 Joel Anderson
    @Deb 🐝 Helfrich I have thought a lot about your comment and have gone back to the picture multiple times since I posted this piece. As I thought about the messiness of it all, I was reminded of a quote attributed to Alan Watts "The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance." Which then led me to think about a few lines from Lee Ann Womack's "I hope you Dance" "And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance, I hope you dance. I hope you never fear those mountains in the distance, Never settle for the path of least resistance, Livin' might mean takin' chances but they're worth takin'." You and the others like you are the ones who inspire me to just want to dance despite the fuzzy lines and messiness of it all.
    Joel Anderson
    15/11/2016 #13 Joel Anderson
    #1 Thank you @Savvy Raj Keep making a difference.
    Joel Anderson
    15/11/2016 #11 Joel Anderson
    #8 Thanks @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and thanks for the link to Andres Amador--very nice. Don't stop making those lines.
    Joel Anderson
    15/11/2016 #10 Joel Anderson
    #9 Thanks @Pascal Derrien All the best to you.
    Pascal Derrien
    15/11/2016 #9 Pascal Derrien
    Was thinking about lines and ... borders this morning when I bumped on your article. An encouraging comment and invitation on your last sentence :-)
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    15/11/2016 #8 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    I have been mesmerized for hours over that photo, @Joel Anderson. I can't remember if you have been around when the playa paintings of Andres Amador have been shared - I simply never tire of his work: http://www.andresamadorarts.com/

    I have always celebrated that my own lines are swirling and complicated and situational - I refuse to trace from anyone else's lines. And to offer a slightly different perspective, if I am not attached to my lines, if I can be at peace with the thought that they can disappear with the wind or the tide, then I am available to shift into what is occurring rather than relying on the belief of lines that may have evaporated with a changing world.

    We are aligned in the necessity of making lines as part of fixing what is broken and moving the world forward into a more sustainable future for the planet and all its ecosystems.
    CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    14/11/2016 #7 CityVP 🐝 Manjit
    What a beautiful picture. Privacy is one of the lines I like and another is mental and emotional bandwidth. As Clint Eastwood said in a far different contest "a man's gotta know his limitations". Once I have established a firm foundation which is akin to what is said in Matthew 7:24 - "to build your house on rock and not sand" - then the world opens up to me as a change agent.

    I don't make it a raison detre to change the world, nor want to change a single thing about Joel Anderson or any other person. The transformations that incur in me, occur because of sound values, learning from my mistakes, appreciating my strengths, valuing the love that is around me, count the blessings of a wonderful life and have the humility to learn and develop.

    As each one of us become a light, we add one more unit of brightness into the world. Then I can deal with the lines that imprison us, the lines that do not make sense yet continue to persist and as I engage all these kind of lines, get back to the picture of the lines in the sand and acknowledge the wonder of it all. What a precious thing life is and even more precious when it is priceless.
    Joel Anderson
    14/11/2016 #6 Joel Anderson
    #5 Thank you @Sara Jacobovici
    Sara Jacobovici
    14/11/2016 #5 Sara Jacobovici
    @Joel Anderson writes: "I want to leave footprints and lines in the sand that will make a difference and help make the world a better place. I hope that you do too."
    Sara Jacobovici
    14/11/2016 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    @Joel Anderson, this buzz proves that you're walking the talk; you're leaving footprints. The beautiful image you offer is non-linear reflecting, from my perspective, that our movement in time is non-linear. Seems that everything related to time occurs more in patterns like those in the sand. The word "before" has a double meaning; either of something that came from the past or is placed ahead of us. More like moving around in circles ;-)
    Joel Anderson
    14/11/2016 #3 Joel Anderson
    #2 thanks Harvey. In some respects it reflects a conscientious decision to either stay at no, or do something different and get to Yes.
    Harvey Lloyd
    14/11/2016 #2 Harvey Lloyd
    The symmetrical lines are captivating. Seeing the chart and the timeline certainly does give one pause to consider are current status and how it may impact our future. The quote is appropriate and would add that the definitions of honesty and truth have been blurred. I believe that your growth chart demonstrates why.

    Technology has globalized our reach and we can share experiences and find confidence on our personal truth/honesty that comes with no performance requirements. Before technology your truth was tested and formed within a community's survival, everyday.
    Savvy Raj
    14/11/2016 #1 Savvy Raj
    Yes indeed Joel Savage . Great message in these lovely lines! The choice we make is, was and always will be in our hands . The need of the hour is to choose wisely.
  19. ProducerAli Anani

    Ali Anani

    Adaptations to Emotional Flooding
    Adaptations to Emotional FloodingI am not discussing the flooding of markets with products. I am not discussing the flooding of information. I am interested in this buzz to talk about emotional flooding and its consequences. I am tempted to write this buzz having read the buzz...


    Ali Anani
    17/11/2016 #75 Ali Anani
    I responded to the great comments on this buzz in a buzz titled "The Positive Side of Negative Emotions"


    I am deeply grateful to all commenters who inspired the idea of this new buzz
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #74 Ali Anani
    #72 @Deb 🐝 Helfrich- your dog example is more than apt. @Max🐝 J. Carter wrote a buzz as inspired by this buzz and his buzz too has drawn some great comments. I plan to write my next buzz to elaborate more on some of the points you highlight in your comment. Negative shouldn't mean bad. Without negative pressures water shall not move more than 30 meters from the roots of a tree to its top. A battery shall not function without the positive and negative anodes together. But we can't deny that there stressing emotions that if we allow to escalate and flood us they shall cause severe health problems. I again emphasize that it is our attitude that counts.
    I strongly agree with you on this issue " So we are quite likely to have emotional responses parallel to the adults that raised us, but the underlying situations may be vastly different".
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    16/11/2016 #73 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #72 There is no model is the problem and people are searching for a model or technical guide to tell them what's right and what's wrong and too many over history and currently are far too willing to sell them one keeping them crutched and never searching within.

    One knows why one feels the way one does, it's when we tell people not to feel this way about this or that and then we pass project self-judgment onto others insisting they reflect our projected self image as their own and condemn them the fate we chose for ourselves.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    16/11/2016 #72 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    There are some really important points of @Max🐝 J. Carter's that I want to highlight. To start. I have another, less emotional, and more observable parallel to the damage we do in assigning the concept of positive and negative - judgement - to emotions. My dog smells everything for information; she doesn't label one smell bad and one smell good, she drinks in all the scent particles. Sometimes lingering, sometimes rolling in them, but mostly just letting them waft by. The human need for judgement causes problems in all kinds of ways, but with the inevitability of emotions, we have an especially damaging problem.

    Furthermore, he mentioned that we learned how to feel emotions by mimicking the adults around us. Big, big, big observation. It is how we learned language, too. Rules (grammar) and judgements come much later on, as our brains only develop that analytical aspect much later. So we are quite likely to have emotional responses parallel to the adults that raised us, but the underlying situations may be vastly different.

    Both points bring us back to learning to adapt to our actual current conditions, perhaps using biomimicry as a great model, so that we stay in the flow of life, and its seasons and chaotic events, rather than letting emotions hijack our higher analytical intelligence. Hard stuff, but it comes back to awareness again and again and again.

    @Ali Anani's metaphor of flooding is apt. We can grow into the ability to manage our emotions as a river that never threatens the banks of our peace of mind.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #71 Ali Anani
    #70 I am very thankful to you @Joel Anderson
    Joel Anderson
    16/11/2016 #70 Joel Anderson
    Thank you @Ali Anani for some great insights.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #69 Ali Anani
    #68 I am so glad that you are enjoying the comments on this buzz dear @Deb 🐝 Helfrich for I too find them an integral part of the buzz. You appreciation is beyond description and I am about to flood with joy
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    16/11/2016 #68 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    This is a masterpiece of community interaction, @Ali Anani, all initiated by your wisdom. I am surfing the comments with such thrill. There are actionable lessons for everyone in regard to Emotional Flooding contained throughout the conversation.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    16/11/2016 #67 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #65 Is it poosible to be too grateful as I thank you again for your kindness.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #66 Ali Anani
    Part 2
    A negative is a loss and the only loss that we truly experience is the loss of growth and learning when we ignore our emotions or other people because we use words such as Negative to describe the emotion and therefore the person.
    During a recent visit to my dentist, he said that the new "artificial teeth" shall stick in my mouth by negative pressure. Here negative is doing a great job and very positively. I think the distortion comes from our attitudes to view negative as bad. Joy is great and positive; however excessive joy is harmful and becomes harmful. It is our attitudes that we may think we may have joy without having pain or that joy is always a good thing regardless of its quality and quantity. Sometimes we need to say the positive pole and negative pole of a battery. The positive pole alone or the negative pole alone shall not make the battery work. It is the presence of both that we may have a working battery. You ignited the battery of my mind, Max.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #65 Ali Anani
    Part 1
    I urge readers of this buzz to read the buzz of @Max🐝 J. Carter (the link is given in my previous comment). I commented on this great buzz by writing:
    This is an amazing buzz @Max🐝 J. Carter- You make me think and rethink. I am honored that my buzz and the discussions inspired you with writing such a profound buzz. In fact, you too inspire me to write a buzz on same, but using a different approach. I shall do soon.
    I read this buzz twice before responding and the following segments from your buzz caught my attention:
    Psychologically speaking by saying some emotions are negative we will do anything we can to avoid them or someone experiencing them
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    16/11/2016 #64 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #63 Thank you kindly @Ali Anani
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #63 Ali Anani
    @Max🐝 J. Carter responded to this buzz in a beautifully and mind-capturing buzz. The link is:
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #62 Ali Anani
    #61 Great and I tag @Deb🐝 Lange to your buzz @Max🐝 J. Carter
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    16/11/2016 #61 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #58 Well put. In fact this convo inspired me to write a piece on the topic just now. I tagged you.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #60 Ali Anani
    #56 @Deb🐝 Lange- as I mentioned in one of my responses to @Max🐝 J. Carter trees know fear, but accept it. They store certain nutrients for winter times. They change the direction of their leaves so as not to get exposed to intense sunlight. Trees may use alternative roots to find oxygen instead of the deleted oxygen in the water-depleted oxygen. That accept fear and adapt to it. Adaptation isn't controlling; it is mobility to move to finding solutions. Honestly, I fail to see big differences in our thinking.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #59 Ali Anani
    #54 Negative is made more negative by our attitudes. Negative emotions and positive ones co-exist, but in what proportions depends on us. I feel too I am in the rabbit hole, but I am not afraid to learn and find my way out. Thank you @Max🐝 J. Carter View more
    #54 Negative is made more negative by our attitudes. Negative emotions and positive ones co-exist, but in what proportions depends on us. I feel too I am in the rabbit hole, but I am not afraid to learn and find my way out. Thank you @Max🐝 J. Carter for this discussion has added lots of questions for me to ponder upon. Close
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #58 Ali Anani
    #53 I am not less than you enjoying those convos @Max🐝 J. Carter. In fact not only enjoying, but also learning. Attitudes have a role and intentions too do. Therefore I enjoyed greatly this segment of your comment "They allowed the possible reward cloud their judgment by allowing fear to guide them. Afraid if they don;t make it big they will have no love in their life". Yes, they allowed fear to guide them and this is the point how not to let such fear to take its grip on us. Trees store carbohydrates for fear of not having enough supplies of it during winter. Trees accept fear and know how to deal with it. We too need to do the same.
    Ali Anani
    16/11/2016 #57 Ali Anani
    #51 @Ian Weinberg- thank you for the link. Will read today
    Deb🐝 Lange
    16/11/2016 #56 Deb🐝 Lange
    #49 The person you mention, may not have realised that there was something fishy. That person may feel shame. I would advise for them to give themselves much self-love to heal the shame. Shame needs acceptance that we were not wrong in this situation. If I hide, which is what shame wants to do, I will be perpetuating the energy of shame, as if I was wrong. As @Max carter says, we get tangled up when we cast negative and positive judgements on our lives, rather than saying that just is. I don't think trees judge that is bad, that is good. they weather the storms, the sunny days, and they may "know" the sunny days, allow their growth, the windy days sow seeds, or help them drop their leaves. Nothing to judge, a windy day just is a windy day. being sad because my Mother passed on, is not bad or good, it is a human expression of loss of a loved one. I think Ali, we may have a slight misinterpretation of what we both mean by control. Best wishes to you.
  20. ProducerGary Sharpe

    Gary Sharpe

    FearI am now convinced that many instances of Parkinson’s, including my own, involve catastrophic levels of Fear leading to a fritzed, permanent form of the Freeze (Playing-Dead) stress response and damaged nervous systems. I know that Fear is...


    LQ McDonald III
    24/10/2016 #9 LQ McDonald III
    #2 This is just a beautiful bit of writing and a powerful illustration of the the mind body connection and how we can internalize so much emotion that we can actually manifest physical maladies because of it. I think Naming your fears, pulling them from the dark spaces where they are free to grow and an distort without our knowledge, is such an amazing and cathartic practice. It takes such an amazing amount of courage, not only to face your fears, but expose them to the light of public discourse and by doing so, I think Gary has presented a powerful exercise that can help a lot of people approach their fears with just enough light to expose them as the false impediments that they are. Thank you for this, Gary!
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    22/10/2016 #8 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    #7 Well said, Gary. Having company with our same thoughts offers support.
    Gary Sharpe
    22/10/2016 #7 Gary Sharpe
    #5 Perhaps there is a central role of platforms like bebee now present. They allow us to share our stories, hold hands in the darkness, shed light on the human things which were never talked about publicly before, hidden.....
    Barbara Dean Franklin
    22/10/2016 #6 Barbara Dean Franklin
    Great Article Gary!
    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    22/10/2016 #5 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Fear in itself is enough to fuel undesirable feelings but to have lingering memories of frightening events becomes too much to bear. I was an only child and left alone a lot. I used to hide under the covers at night too. Things that we experience as children have an everlasting impact on our adult lives. It's unfortunate how misunderstood the suffering is.
    Jared 🐝 Wiese
    21/10/2016 #4 Jared 🐝 Wiese
    There's a tie between this and your other post on Love/gratitude....

    The more complete quote is β€œGratitude is the antidote to the two things that stop us: fear and anger. Fear is why we don’t take action and anger is why we get stuck. You can’t be grateful and angry simultaneously. You can’t be fearful and be grateful simultaneously. So it’s really the reset button.”

    See http://philosiblog.com/2013/03/08/gratitude-is-the-antidote-to-the-two-things-that-stop-us-fear-and-anger/
    Jared 🐝 Wiese
    21/10/2016 #3 Jared 🐝 Wiese
    @Gary Sharpe, I can totally see the mind/fear connections and resulting health effects. As you know I have RLS, but also believe there's a lot more to it than family history.

    The power of various stimuli: thoughts, words, music... The resulting emotions and states... The impacted body.

    THANK YOU for sharing. I hope indeed it is cathartic.
    Jared 🐝 Wiese
    21/10/2016 #2 Jared 🐝 Wiese
    @LQ McDonald III, wondering your 'thoughts' on this?
    Deb🐝 Lange
    21/10/2016 #1 Deb🐝 Lange
    I agree with you @GarySharpe. It is profound when we reconnect how our thoughts affect our physical body and our wellness. This is so important. I believe it is yet again another consequence since Descartes declared the body had nothing to do with thoughts 200 years ago. The years of reductionist science and thinking by separating things has had all kinds of unintended consequences. Thank heavens we have been focussing on the connections and integrations for some time now. We are still in transition. as reductionism impregnated our thinking like a virus and most of us are not aware that we are separating our thoughts from our body. Many people do not know how they feel if you ask them, and will respond with 'I think" . Language is so important. Dropping into our bodies and reconnecting with our physicality results in great openings to release tension and fear as you say, that we did not even recognise that we had. You might like my post and my new book that will be published shortly. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@deb-lange/trust-your-senses-embodied-wisdom-for-the-modern-age
  21. ProducerGary Sharpe

    Gary Sharpe

    Two Suns
    Two SunsTwo Suns, Far Apart. Unknown to each other, yet, always, unknowingly being pulled together by the only long range force in the Universe: gravitational attraction. They orbit, collide with or absorb other heavenly bodies - planets, moons,...


    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    15/11/2016 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    Each time I read this, @Gary Sharpe, I find something new to see. Which is what it is all about for me. Each star has a distinct perspective, that accounts for its twin, even though they are in orbit and seemingly in synch. Perspective is not a universal force, just a stage of the ever forward rotation, so it will always be subject to changes in the gravitational forces of love.
    Juan Manuel Perez Toboso
    14/11/2016 #1 Juan Manuel Perez Toboso
  22. ProducerGary Sharpe

    Gary Sharpe

    KundaliniAs we Delve Deeper together, as we Gather Pace here, I want to return now to a major theme: the new understanding that we should recast our view of Dis-ease not as something sent to test us, but as an opportunity, a catalyst, for personal,...


    Ben Pinto
    14/11/2016 #2 Ben Pinto
    Kundalini has awakened and is rising through your spinal column. Bravo for having achieved this plateau, Dr. @Gary Sharpe.
  23. ProducerGary Sharpe

    Gary Sharpe

    Acts of Love [Intimacy]
    Acts of Love [Intimacy]Acts of Love.In the adult Stage of our lives, we humans, like all animals who go two-by-two, engage in Physical Acts together. Amongst the Extras - those animals which only play small parts, low down on the role-call - these Actors play their parts...


    Gary Sharpe
    16/11/2016 #12 Gary Sharpe
    #11 Like sex, best left to the imagination of the beholder. ;-)
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    16/11/2016 #11 Max🐝 J. Carter
    #10 No you didn't but inferred greatly.
    Gary Sharpe
    16/11/2016 #10 Gary Sharpe
    #9 *I* didn't mention sex. I agree by the way.
    Max🐝 J. Carter
    16/11/2016 #9 Max🐝 J. Carter
    Here's the thing, sex and intimacy have nothing to do with each other. You are intimate with the people who you make yourself the most vulnerable to with what you share about yourself and how much their opinion actually means to you. That is building intimacy through trust. You can have that without sex and you can have sex without intimacy. When intimacy is built prior to the sex, that is when you have the greatest of tantric experiences as my experience has been after study and application of the art form.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    13/11/2016 #8 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    #7 Wow, @Mohammed A. Jawad, that is a complexly nuanced comment that gets to the heart of intimacy.
    Mohammed A. Jawad
    13/11/2016 #7 Mohammed A. Jawad
    Aha....intimacy is a serene, dulcet comforter, a pulsating rage. It's an intense barter in exchange of emotions with deep desires to experience love's sequence.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    13/11/2016 #6 Deb🐝 Lange
    Intimacy, yes we are all "connected' via technology, but how often do we experience real intimacy? yet, with intimacy ,we open up to sensing and connecting with ourselves and others that enrich our experience beyond measure. When we connect intimately we are open to the source of our creativity. Thank-you for sharing of yourself so we can be intimate together.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #5 Sara Jacobovici
    Straight from @Gary Sharpe's heart.
    Sara Jacobovici
    13/11/2016 #4 Sara Jacobovici
    Your script @Gary Sharpe, "which wrote itself without edit, in full, free flow of a Creative, Emotional Intelligent, Empathic Storyteller", I believe can be referred to as Prose Poetry. Any way you call it, I call it an important message from heart to heart.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    13/11/2016 #2 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    I am certain that the woman on the receiving end of your intimacy, @Gary Sharpe, must feel spectacularly fortunate.
    Renée  🐝 Cormier
    12/11/2016 #1 Renée 🐝 Cormier
    Intimacy says was love does not. There are many degrees and types of love, but the experience of touching the soul by sharing both emotional and sexual intimacy is something not so easily found or given. We humans crave that but often offer so much less.
  24. Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    "Life has many ways of testing a person's will, either by having nothing happen at all or by having everything happen all at once." ~Paulo Coelho Deb 🐝 Helfrich


    Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    12/11/2016 #1 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman
    Great quote by Paulo Coelho. He is one of my favs. Beautiful pic, Deb.
  25. 🐝 Fatima Williams
    I Just came across David Abram's central thesis of his book "The Spell of the sensuous" Perception and Language in a More-Than-Human World (1996)

    David talks about
    "What is characteristic of his account of perception is the centrality that the body plays. We perceive the world through our bodies; we are embodied subjects, involved in existence. Further the ability to reflect comes from a pre-reflective ground that serves as the foundation for reflecting on actions. In other words we perceive phenomena first, then reflect on them via this mediation which is instantaneous and synonymous with our being and perception in,as,and with body, i.e. embodiment !

    @Ali Anani , @Sara Jacobovici I think you might find this particularly interesting or already know much about it.

    I'm intrigued on what he says in this video about how Reading the alphabet affects human unfolding with the animate earth. I really need to read more on this, to say anything about what he points out here. But I would love to hear what my beBees know on this and I hope it throws some interesting discussions. Thank you :)
    Dr. David Abram: How Reading Affects US
    Dr. David Abram: How Reading Affects US David Abram, author of "The Spell of the Sensuous" discusses the shadow side of alphabetic literacy: our estrangement from the surrounding world of nature....


    🐝 Fatima Williams
    08/11/2016 #12 🐝 Fatima Williams
    #10 Thank you @Deb🐝 Lange I would love to read it buzz me once it's out and Yes I will stay connected I ain't going anywhere πŸ€—πŸ€— Remember the beBee motto #beBeesforever
    🐝 Fatima Williams
    08/11/2016 #11 🐝 Fatima Williams
    #6 Enthralling thoughts dear @Sara Jacobovici Now I hope why everyone knows your thoughts are golden and I thank you for sharing them with us.

    This is my take away among many you just addressed.

    "Any tool or innovation has the potential for further development and growth through engagement with ourselves, others and our environment or to detach and cut us off from this potential. What it comes down to is choice; how we choose, or not, to engage with the world around us."

    We have the clay in our hands it's up to us to make a beautiful thing out of it or jjust trash it out. We need to take care as the clay is soft in the beginning and behinds to hard out quickly so we must take our time and treasure each moment with it. Thank you once about to both my golden beBees Ali Anani and Sara.
    Deb🐝 Lange
    08/11/2016 #10 Deb🐝 Lange
    David Abram is one of my heroes! Dear Fatima - stay connected , I think you will like my book. trust your senses - embodied wisdom for the modern age - it will be on Amazon in about 2 weeks. I sharecmy experience reconnecting the mind body connection with self, other and nature. I love that you are passionate about this too!
    Ali Anani
    08/11/2016 #9 Ali Anani
    #6 Language is tool and it is up to us to use it for good or bad as all tools are. Great idea and I am still digesting it @Sara Jacobovici. It has profound meanings under the surface.
    Ali Anani
    08/11/2016 #8 Ali Anani
    #7 You are a treasure to beBee with your spot on comments and buzzes @Sara Jacobovici. I love this quote from the poem:
    feeling the blessings of the Supreme Spirit.
    I lived in the brotherhood of all beings.

    Feeling the blessing- what a great way to make our perceptions blessed.
    Sara Jacobovici
    08/11/2016 #7 Sara Jacobovici
    Part 2/2

    An example of someone who grew up in the oral tradition using the alphabetized language to connect.

    For thousands of years
    I have spoken the language of the land
    and listened to its many voices.
    I took what I needed
    and found there was plenty for everyone.
    The rivers were clear and thick with life,
    the air was pure and gave way
    to the thrashing of countless wings.
    On land, a profusion of creatures abounded.
    I walked tall and proud
    knowing the resourcefulness of my people,
    feeling the blessings of the Supreme Spirit.
    I lived in the brotherhood of all beings.
    I measured the day
    by the sun's journey across the sky.
    The passing of the year was told
    by the return of the salmon
    or the birds pairing off to nest.
    Between the first campfire and the last
    of each day I searched for food,
    made shelter, clothing and weapons,
    and always found time for prayer.
    - Chief Dan George
    Sara Jacobovici
    08/11/2016 #6 Sara Jacobovici
    Part 1/2

    1. "What is characteristic of his account of perception is the centrality that the body plays. We perceive the world through our bodies; we are embodied subjects, involved in existence. Further the ability to reflect comes from a pre-reflective ground that serves as the foundation for reflecting on actions. In other words we perceive phenomena first, then reflect on them via this mediation which is instantaneous and synonymous with our being and perception in,as,and with body, i.e. embodiment !”

    Agreed. Ali Anani's comment #2 says it eloquently.

    2. β€œI'm intrigued on what he says in this video about how Reading the alphabet affects human unfolding with the animate earth.”

    Limited to what I am hearing him say in this brief video, I cannot agree. The alphabet became a tool just like fire or the wheel to enable human interaction with others and our environment. There is a difference between the oral and written traditions; the difference, however, is based on the meaning each culture gives to communication and transmission of thoughts, feelings and history. The best example of why I feel language, or as he refers to it as the alphabetized language, is not a means through which humans detach, is simply by reading any of the myriad of poets and authors, and playwrights, cross-generationally, cross-culturally, who use the alphabetized language to engage and connect with people and nature.

    Any tool or innovation has the potential for further development and growth through engagement with ourselves, others and our environment or to detach and cut us off from this potential. What it comes down to is choice; how we choose, or not, to engage with the world around us.
    Sara Jacobovici
    07/11/2016 #5 Sara Jacobovici
    Dear @🐝 Fatima Williams, thank you so much for the tag. I can't wait to sit with this buzz and enjoy the information, perspectives and insights. I will respond as soon as possible.
    🐝 Fatima Williams
    06/11/2016 #4 🐝 Fatima Williams
    #1 " The letters usurp that participation - they short-circuit that reciprocity" This is still running in my head too @Deb 🐝 Helfrich and I am still stunned.
    🐝 Fatima Williams
    06/11/2016 #3 🐝 Fatima Williams
    #2 @Ali Anani I was stunned too and still in deep self-exploration. I just wrote what David said. I will share my thoughts on this after a little more reading on this.
    Ali Anani
    06/11/2016 #2 Ali Anani
    I am stunned twice- by the quality of this buzz and of the synchronicity between us dear @🐝 Fatima Williams. Just before glancing this buzz I was wondering about our fractal bodies and if our behaviors are fractals too (they are as reflected by the fractal stock markets, to give one example). I wa reading this:
    The Universe is built on a plan the profound symmetry of which is somehow present in the inner structure of our intellect.
    -- Paul Valery

    If you like fractals, it is because you are made of them. If you can’t stand fractals, it’s because you can’t stand yourself. It happens.
    -- Homer Smith, Computer Engineer, Art Matrix

    Our fractal bodies operate my having a large surface area compared to the volume. For example, or langs have a large surface area have their capacity to work well because of their large surface are. So are our brains. We perceive the world through our bodies, but our bodies are fractal. How do we increase the surface are of or perception so that it may operate well? Do we need to have fractal perception? I have yet to watch the video and think deeper. I am amazed by sharing this buzz to fractals forever because this is the right hive for it. You wrote " In other words we perceive phenomena first, then reflect on them via this mediation which is instantaneous and synonymous with our being and perception in,as,and with body, i.e. embodiment"! I need to find the fractal perception and I have a lot to think about. Great buzz that is worthy of sharing.
    Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    06/11/2016 #1 Deb 🐝 Helfrich
    "The letters usurp that participation - they short-circuit that reciprocity" ... with all the other environmental 'languages' that our senses can make available to us.

    I have alluded to this a couple times over the last few days. I know things in my head in a not strictly verbal way, and images aren't always prominent and when I know something this way - I feel jarred back into language if asked a question. Like scratching a turntable stylus....

    I don't actually enjoy writing as an activity in the way I see a lot of folks here do, because in part, I feel disconnected from my own knowledge when I attend to the task of writing it out.
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