- Producer11/10/2017Dispersion of Attention- is it only an evil?Dispersion of seeds Dispersion of clay particles Dispersion of animals and microorganisms Dispersion of ideas, knowledge and attention Focusing of light and dispersion of light These examples of dispersion that seem distant...
Comments12/10/2017 #21 AnonymousTo achieve a "eureka moment", a birth of an idea, is, in my experience, a mixture of dispersion and focusing. Our brain is under a permanent rain of ideas, thoughts, emotions, coming both externally and internally, preparing the "soil" to let the "seed" to grow. The best ideas are coming when our brain is able to isolate itself from the "noise " to focus on one issue.
It is a paradox that to be focused one needs to be dispersed, don't you think?12/10/2017 #19 Jerry FletcherOur society is the result of dispersion. No idea held closely by a few has the power that unleashed knowledge can bring in my view. Even evil ideas profit from dispersion. Secret societies have done well ins some historic times but primarily because they shared parts of their knowledge via their.network and their good works. One that comes to mind is the Masons. But the organization that helped inspire our founding fathers was one developed by Benjamin Franklin. He started the Junto, an early networking group that shared ideas, books, trade secrets and business development...a hybrid of what we would call a Trade association today not unlike a Chamber of Commerce in some ways.12/10/2017 #18 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#16 my friendv@Edward Lewellen- you are right and spot on. One reason people love being with groups is their feelings of stability and security. People who at least would like to be dispersed away from others don't feel the need for security or stability because they may come up with creative solutions to solve their problems. They are self-dependent. They know that in isolation theeir imagination and pondering of nature shall give them peace of minds to relax and then enjoy their emeging creative ideas.11/10/2017 #16 Edward LewellenSo, I wonder, dear friend @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, if, based on your post and the previous comments, the ability to disperse attention to unfamiliar/different areas is based on a sense of security within oneself? It seems to me that people who feel secure in their own person are the ones who are unafraid to listen and discuss new and different ideas. They are open to visualizing options and opportunities, like, "What if...?" Plants create enormous amount of seeds with the security that at least a few will become fertile. Humans and animals generate millions of sperm (seeds) with the security that it only takes one to create life. People I know who are secure in themselves openly discuss new and different ideas without the need to "win" an argument, with the intent of learning and growing. Insecure people close themselves off to new and different ideas, afraid that their fiefdom may come into question, so the agglomerate their "seeds" in the same "soil" in an effort to preserve what they have. However, maintaining the status quo isn't an option. We are either green and growing or ripe and rotten.11/10/2017 #13 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#11 Thank you so much for your revealing comment @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. I really like it because it is balanced. In particular
With that said, it doesn't mean joining is our only option. We have the ability to branch out in all directions if we opt to do so". This is why I tend to join hives of different interests.Yes, when I feel the need to focus I read buzzes from selected hives. However; I tend to read buzzes of different interests because I find this quite illuminating. Yes, I agree with you that beBee gives us choices and this is one of the greatest things about beBee. I am sure @Javier 🐝 beBee shall enjoy reading your thorough comment.11/10/2017 #12 Cyndi wilkins#8 I can assure you I will continue on my flight @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee;-) However, @Debasish makes a crucial point on the flip side of the coin...
"Naturally dispersion becomes a handy tool to suppress opinions which may not appear favorable for certain sections of people of the human society."11/10/2017 #11 Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand AmbassadorI agree that dispersion can spark ideation and hone our creative senses. Sometimes our desire for a seamless existence leads to boredom and complacency. However, there are those that like to "belong" and feel they are included in a group that is to their liking. The Hives are intended to draw people with like ideas together and build camaraderie and unity.
With that said, it doesn't mean joining is our only option. We have the ability to branch out in all directions if we opt to do so. There are leaders and followers and we can't have followers without leaders. There are those that would rather scatter their ideas to produce more ideas and there are those that like to reap the benefits. I feel with beBee, we have the best of both worlds because we have options.
Great post and food-for-thought, @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee.11/10/2017 #9 Devesh 🐝 BhattQuality buzzes. Hopping from one to another.
Many comments may seem disconnected at first due a lack of reference and ideas still taking shape.
But one can link multiple buzzes by different writers where each writer can pose his/her expression as the core and do so rightly.
Ungrouped groupthink going on while we casually read and interact across different buzzes.
Creative output is exppnential.
Just like electric currents in parallel connections.
This buzz resonates in so many ways . Thanks11/10/2017 #6 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#5 you expressed my thinking very well @Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris. I want to add here that some readers choose to only follow hives that appeal to them. As much as this is useful for focused thinking and attention it can fire back. Feelings of stability and similar group thinking might limit their exposure. To attend different hives and disperse among them may mean less stability and less feeling of security. But this could be quite the opportunity to cross link ideas and come up with creative ideas. I welcome your comment heartedly my friend.11/10/2017 #5 Zacharias 🐝 VoulgarisVery poignant point about the dispersion of attention not being a bad thing. In fact, idea generation would probably be impossible if it weren't for disperse thinking. The issue, I believe, is that some people cannot control their attention. So, it becomes disperse when they need it to be more focused (or vice versa, sometimes). It's easy to turn something natural, like disperse attention, into a stigma of sorts, if you don't understand it (as it's often the case with the mainstream). However, disperse attention can be as productive as focused attention, if it is harnessed properly through creativity.11/10/2017 #3 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#2 dispersion is a common feature it seems dear @Debasish Majumder. Avoidance of competition is one major drive of dispersion. Entropy may also be in favor of dispersion because it has less order than arranging in an organized way. Thank you for your illumination and sharing of the buzz11/10/2017 #2 Debasish Majumderin nature dispersion is a phenomenon not consciously being aimed i guess, to achieve something for convenience. but, in human society people resort to aspersion to disperse who may not aligned with the interest groups and naturally dispersion becomes a handy tool to suppress opinions which may not appear favorable for certain section of people of the human society. however, nice insight sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! enjoyed read and shared. thank you for the share sir.
- Producer12/10/2017ANTIFRAGILE 2018As someone of you may already know, the last four years I organized a workshop called ANTIFRAGILE. Today I like to officially announce the launch of ANTIFRAGILE 2018 and the availability of its web page at...
Comments13/10/2017 #8 Flavio 🇯🇵 Souza 🐝I like this theme @Vincenzo De Florio , if we see for example the Catalunya example, they want to get out from Spain but at the same time they want to continue with the same old structure of Government, economy - finance ... I would rather try something new if a region has really autonomy, so my conclusion is people in Catalunya thinks they will be independent to do whatever they want but the truth is not because the system is the same old one #7
- Producer12/10/2017De-emphasising Trust in Open Innovation and the Future-of-Work(This article was originally posted on the Guiri Business blog)I participated in several thought-provoking sessions at the PMCampBCN, Global Open Innovation Forum, Design Thinking, ICO, and Blockchain and IoT Solutions World Congress with...
Comments13/10/2017 #1 CityVP 🐝 ManjitMy knowledge of blockchain is beginner level but I can comprehend the mental shift that makes it a transformational mindset. This buzz provides many segways for me to consider the mental model that accompanies this profound revolution, which goes well beyond just the implications to payment systems, but as well described here, well beyond to the core of leadership and how we adapt to both abundance and real time information. Blockchain has not even encountered the world of quantum computing and reading this, it feels like I am back at the starting line, and the challenge is looking at all of this anew and with fresh vision. Great stuff ! This is the kind of thing that I would expect the mind juices of @Javier 🐝 beBee and @Juan Imaz to contemplate the enormity of change that this encompasses, as learning to see within the present moment.
- Producer09/10/2017UX en los teléfonos ¿Por qué tienen los números dispuestos así?Hay algo importante sobre la imagen anterior. A pesar de la transformación significativa en la ergonomía y la modalidad del factor de forma física de los teléfonos, el diseño del dial-pad parece haber permanecido sin cambios desde 1963.Por lo tanto,...
Comments09/10/2017 #13 AnonymousEl estudio y la evolución está muy bien pero cuando algo funciona ¿porqué cambiarlo?
Nuestro cerebro ya tiene memorizado el orden de los números y yo por lo menos no miro cuando marco a números de teléfono familiares o cuando me van dictando aunque es cierto que sujeto el móvil con la mano izquierda y marco con la derecha.09/10/2017 #12 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI could have saved time on google translate if I had clicked your original link :-) and discovered the original was in English
https://uxdesign.cc/re-designing-the-smartphone-dial-pad-2df226ec620f View moreI could have saved time on google translate if I had clicked your original link :-) and discovered the original was in English
This is a fantastic piece by Sajid Saiyed because it not only helps to envision why most of us take design for granted and thus not take the next step of discovery, but it also articulates the importance of design thinking and how easily and lazily we can continue with the old meme or design and not update design to new context or new use.
The history of design also provides an awareness about creative thinking and the implications of this to innovation. Thus instead of viewing this as history I have absorbed this buzz as an exploration of "thinking" and how to think in the context of the future and not simply copying what was done yesterday. It also asserts the value of design in our age and brings back memories of the rotrary phone for people like me old enough to remember that !
I also note that using the example of ATM's some contexts do not translate to adoption. While so many people have adopted the ATM, banks realized that there were many older customers whose custom and habit still required a bank teller. The same thing is going to be true about credit cards, where current payment technologies should have eliminated but there is some custom and practice which sticks, no matter how smart the UX or design concept that is put forward now. Close09/10/2017 #10 Adela GarciaLo que yo daría por poder contestarte con una imagen!!!!
Es que yo tengo un teléfono de baquelita y que funciona, y es el que más utilizo, porque está en mi mesa de trabajo!!!
Me ha parecido muy interesante esta información, gracias @Federico 🐝 Álvarez San Martín View moreLo que yo daría por poder contestarte con una imagen!!!!
Es que yo tengo un teléfono de baquelita y que funciona, y es el que más utilizo, porque está en mi mesa de trabajo!!!
Me ha parecido muy interesante esta información, gracias @Federico 🐝 Álvarez San Martín!!! Close09/10/2017 #6 Ignacio OrnaCuriosidades de un Mundo insólito y que no deja de sorprenderme. The telephone call https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYhQVrXBgxU View moreCuriosidades de un Mundo insólito y que no deja de sorprenderme. The telephone call https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYhQVrXBgxU Excelente investigación y excelente artículo a la vez que muy bien documentado Close09/10/2017 #2 Irene 🐝 Rodriguez Escolar¿Y si yo te dijera que utilizo la mano izquierda para sujetar el movil cuando leo artículos, y deslizo con el pulgar de dicha mano? Escribir utilizo los dos pulgares normalmente (aunque aveces meto el dedito😅, menos mal que no soy la única, mal de much@s...😁😂😂). Me encantan los telefonos de dial rotativo, en negro son tan bonitos.
Reconozco que el dial digital es mucho más rápido (la destreza que cogí marcando cuando llamaba a los anuncios de busqueda de empleo, no se si reirme o llorar... 😂😂).
No habia caido en que el teclado es similar al de las calculadoras.
Esto se estudia en IU, molaaaa, es investigación también 😀
- Producer14/09/2017Visualized LeadershipThe last few days have seen me engaged with a wave of email exchanges with Harvey Lloyd on many topics related to using the DiSC Profile in leadership, negotiations; reverse thinking, risk handling and team-building. All commentors on my last...
Comments22/09/2017 #141 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#140 your comment is one of the driving reasons that triggered my mind to come up with a modified DiSC graph @Joanne Gardocki. In a weeks tjime I shall publisg this work. Yes it is not the same to be high or low on D for example. The two have different behaviors. I hope the modified graph will show this fact.17/09/2017 #140 Joanne Gardocki#134 "D" Decisive from DiSC inventory would equate to (PtC)Competitor and using anger/threats as a means to control. @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee when you mention a "D" that is motivated by survival may "bite" if touched, I believe we have crossed over to a DiSC "I" type, (PtC) Predator, that is motivated by Fear and operates from survival mode.17/09/2017 #137 Joanne Gardocki#134 @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, the discussion with Stephen Willis was part of an e-mail conversation discussing some questions I had about PtC types and concepts. I will paraphrase the original.
The model I find most helpful is viewing relationships or interactions as energy exchanges. Any four quadrant model has participants using lower energy emotions in win/lose power struggles with others. I draw parallels between Power through Collaboration, DISC inventory and concepts on control dramas from a book series, The Celestine Prophecy, by James Redfield. Collaboration and liquid leadership are being modeled in video games and children’s movies (Inside Out (2015), Dinosaur (2000)), lending support, in my option, to the conclusion we are at an evolutionary crossroads.17/09/2017 #136 Joanne Gardocki#135 Thank you, @Harvey Lloyd , Servant Leadership does sound like a good fit for a fifth element. I just read this post to LinkedIn http://www.pdx-consulting.com/leaders---top-tips-from-dolphins-blog.htm which has a quardrant model and talks about dolphin characteristics in leadership. Dolphin strengths include empathy, open, creative, visionary. The model is missing a forth "lower" form as I would place dolphin on the ascendended Servant Leadership. The article references a graphic that "shows a snap shot of advancing growth mindset worldviews (or evolving styles of consciousness). They come from research by Frederic Laloux and Ken Wilber (also referred to by others simply as spiral dynamics)."17/09/2017 #135 Harvey Lloyd#132 I am unfamiliar with the PtC concepts and discussions. Given your question though i would propose that yes, a fifth element has emerged. Servant Leadership. This concept embodies the whole of leadership through serving with guided influence based on the broader principals of corporate responsibility (Internally and Externally).
Humans are the caretakers of organizations. Some leaders "take control" but control is elusive as you view the dynamics of an organization. I believe the popularity of personality profiling has gained review because our servant selves don't like what we see when the controlling leader herds creativity down a stifling path.
Servant leaders harness the best of humanity in each of their team members. I agree when we discuss the collaborative leader as the best. I see this as a view from the outside looking in. The word collaborative does explain what we observe.
From an personal discipline though, i would call it servant leadership as a personal paradigm. This results to collaborative opportunity.
Your question has extended the thought process and made me think. Thanks.16/09/2017 #132 Joanne Gardocki@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, thank you for the innocent graph that pulls together complex issues. A few month ago I wrote Stephen Willis in the Power through Collaboration(PtC) group on LinkedIn with similar connections of DiSC profiles with the five PtC Types: Competitor, Preditor, Enslaver, Cooperator and Collaborator. There are an incredible number of parallels with four quadrant models. I am wondering if you are seeing an "ascended" fifth take shape in your discussions and musings? May your musings take you to places of wonder and back again to share with our world.16/09/2017 #131 Cyndi wilkins#128 Thank you for your kind assessment of my profile @Harvey Lloyd...I will work very hard to live up to that;-) In this I also agree...
"But more often than we expect its not really a power grab as much a scream of self preservation. To feel safe in a work or social environment, each of us require different signals. Also an environment i find safe can become very unsafe when i include my family."
You can bet your boots on that...How many people are easily manipulated when the well-being of their families is threatened. Most of us I'd imagine.
And I love your comment on Phil;s buzz...
"The skill of empathy can be deployed, but until we believe that we all share a journey and believe in each other it will be difficult to exact success from the
And to you @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee...thank you for allowing me to share a link to my buzz here...I would not do that without invitation;-)
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cyndi-wilkins/respect-simplicity-and-humility#c616/09/2017 #129 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#125 very true your comment is @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher. @Harvey Lloyd and I are trying to understand more how best to relate the WPD factor to the DISC profile. Some profiles are very logical for example and to find a way to awaken their passion is one of the issues that we are looking into.16/09/2017 #128 Harvey Lloyd#113 @Cyndi wilkins Your comments would state that you are probably a high S within the DiSC profile. I share that letter with you. With D being my dominate letter.
So this is something we share as being vigilante in identifying folks who destabilize and environment, no matter how they do it. I would want to note it is the motivation of the power grab/destabilizing, as i see it, that requires investigation before determination. I agree with your comments surrounding the sociopath power grabber.
But more often than we expect its not really a power grab as much a scream of self preservation. To feel safe in a work or social environment, each of us require different signals. Also an environment i find safe can become very unsafe when i include my family.
My larger point in the DiSC discussion is that we have the tools to discern whether we are dealing with pathological power grabs or if we are dealing with self preservation. A secondary point would be that we can help folks in the area of self preservation and reduce their stress levels and increase their creativity. Again, though, it would be difficult for me to assist the person who i have measured as a power grabber, so i must investigate.
We are talking a very few interactions before we discern the motives. Now once we identify the motives have at it in what ever course of action seems appropriate. I am afraid these days in the hype of media we tend to label and act. Frankl advised us, there is a gap between stimulus response and, we should use it to form our own opinion. Media is working hard with their polarization and labeling to close the gap, so we might agree and by the soap powder from their advertisers.16/09/2017 #127 Harvey Lloyd#122 I have given your question some thought and it is a good question. I believe we may start with WPD within a cycle of proactive processes. This is often met with some push back as others give immediate thought to ideas. This has the effect of diminishing our WPD and causing us to stop. So this brought the question forward how do some continue to hold on to WPD within adversity? Real or perceived.
Following this line of thought i believe i would answer your question by stating that WPD is a result. WPD is the result of many cycles of empathetic execution of goals and roles within life whereby you pushed through on small items. With each item growing in complexity that you have applied WPD.
The shield of faith grows around WPD as the scale of goals grows. One of the major bastions of great leaders is they believe in their people, goals and abilities. WPD is met with resistance but the cycles of success have created a defense system around the excitement.
All this to say that DiSC is one of the defense weapons we can utilize personally to protect our WPD when executing around our goals. Through understanding communications we may be able to reduce the impact of comments by others to simple misunderstanding and proceed with WPD.
The better we communicate in a goal oriented environment, the more cycles our WPD will survive. The more cycles, the more faith/confidence our WPD will mature in to.16/09/2017 #126 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher#59 Thanks so much for sharing my last buzz @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, sometimes I get notifications that state "So and so and 3 others shared your buzz," but I may not know who the others were. I was in a nostalgic mood last night. It's a good place to be!16/09/2017 #125 Lisa 🐝 GallagherYou made many valid points @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. You buzzes always amaze me because you mind is very deep. Without curiosity, I don't think I would enjoy life. It can lead us down paths we may have never dreamed of. Never lose the child within :)16/09/2017 #122 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#120 thank you @Savvy Raj for commenting with such positive spirit. I equally happy that your observation is consistent with mine in that we practiced here the true effect of feedbsck comments.
Yes and it is amazing when we make others feel our curiousity to learn and to accept differences how discussions progress. The discussions here exemplify the value of leading with WPD factor prevailing.
You bring a new question to my mind. Even though it may sound trivial, but delving into it shows it is not. I hope you, @Harvey Lloyd and all great commenters here would consider it. To what level high level WPD leaders would need to know about the DiSC profile of his/her team members?16/09/2017 #121 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#119 you truly remind us of the basics that we tend to forget @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee. Curiosity and fear. I have just commented on the latest buzz by @Cyndi wilkins and she too brings these two factors in her buzz. Please Cyndi provide the link to your buzz as it is not easy to do now as I am using mobile phone.
Fear deprives us of curiousity. Even a fearful child shall be less creative and imaginative child that is allowed to experiment playfully his curiousity as your grandson is allowed to do Deb.
Your comment also reminds me of a previous comment here by @Harvey Lloyd in which he attended to the fact that D people may act sometimes because of thei fear.
We need to "Trust our emotions". To what extent can we do this if we act out of fear?
You bring many new thoughts and I am happy that you joined the discussions Deb.
- Producer15/08/2017Order from DisorderIt amazes me that we can get free gifts from disorder. It amazes me more that we need to have a balance between order and disorder. In business, if a company is strictly controlled so that employees are "locked" in their positions they eventually...
Comments19/08/2017 #35 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#34 @Debesh Choudhury- is there a hope of filling a punctured balloon with air? Students who have no desire are like this balloon. Believe me it works.
As for sharing buzzes here on LI I am not sure that views conts up. When this buzz had here 600 views it had 1100 views on LI, If they add up then the number of views on beBee must have been more. But it is nice to get different comments from different platforms.19/08/2017 #33 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#32 Yes, and your comment gets hold of the main idea if the buzz @Lisa 🐝 Gallagher. SOmetimes, we reorganize into better selves when exposed to high tensions. In my next buzz zI hope to write on away to write great stories. How the heros self-organize after reaching the peak of a tension they experience. This is their self-awakening.19/08/2017 #32 Lisa 🐝 Gallagher@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, great information. This caught my eye, "More choices may mean more entropy and free of movement after which the system may self-organize into butter structures." I think you are very wise, because many times we do see systems organize into better structures. When people understand they can think for themselves without being chastised, the flow can be amazing. It also creates a better environment over all.17/08/2017 #28 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Javier 🐝 beBee- just a quick note. This is the first time the number of comments and views of any of my buzzes that are less on beBee than the shared ones on LinkedIn. The average number of views on my buzzes on beBee was 2600 Now, over the last twenty buzzes the number is less than 2000. On the contrary, views on LI moved up from an average of about 400 to more than 1000 lately.
I hope this trend is not experienced by other author bees. If yes, then it shall be interesting to find out why. Is it due to amy falling quality of buzzes? Is it because I am repeating myself? Whatever reason is, the trend may be worthy of your attention.
On a personal level, I am so happy to get the feedback I am getting and even more than I deserve. However; you may find it of value to gauge this trend.17/08/2017 #27 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#26 as nuch as you keep me alive with your support dear @Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.17/08/2017 #26 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.#25 you are a great bee @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee thank you for all you do for all of us. You keep the glue alive.16/08/2017 #25 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeBecause of your last buzz @Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc. in which you showed your great imaginative power and the comment below by @CityVP 🐝 Manjit, including a part on imagination I invite you to show a glimpse of your imaginative power here.
Your buzz I am referring to may be reached through this link
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@liesbeth-leysen/the-dragon-that-wanted-to-fly-to-australia16/08/2017 #24 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#23 I am truly privileged by your comment @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I thank you for sharing and placing the buzz in your hive Violet Hive. You brought order to the nuzz and your imagination with your powerful abstract thinking have found order in disorder. Your powerful mentioning of hives being a way of self-organizing is spot on. I expressed same and explained tis in my buzz " Fingerprint of Change"
I wrote in this buzz "The best theory is an applied theory. The conference achieved both through running two days of lectures on topics related to the activities of the workshops. This way the participants decided which workshop to attend depending on several factors such as their interests and their apprehension of the topic by the speakers. Thinking about it this is a self-organizing approach and inline with the modern theories of management. The participants dissolved themselves in the hives (workshops) of their interest. It also served as measure of the ability of lecturers to attract the bees (participants) to their hives. It is a pull mechanism and not a push one. This made the atmosphere of the conference attracting, inviting and highly engaging". I believe hives work on same principles.16/08/2017 #23 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThe learning hives I utilize here are created on the basis of order emanating from disorder. The very learning pathways I have created here were due to my exposure to self-organizing systems, which began with Stewart Kauffman's observation that "order is for free". That idea was then pursued by Margaret Wheatley.
This is something that triggered a paradox wisdom based on imagination, from a very order based buzz by @Harley King about practical application of imagination. The education system takes great efforts to order our imagination rather than allow the natural disorder of imagination to bring forth order from disorder.
This is what allowed me to place Harley's buzz on Imagination in my White Hive but places this particular buzz on "Order from Disorder" in my Violet Hive. This buzz is also a practical application but one about complexity. When we read a paper on Complexity like this one http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/Papers/ELIS-complexity.pdf it is very helpful to find an orderly view, otherwise disorder simply leads to disorder.
The more orderly a mind is the more the resulting thoughts lead to disorder and such orderly minds produce concrete thinking that has its place in basic managerial functions. Abstract thinking stems from having the ability to coexist in disorder but we need an abstract mind to obtain the order within the disorder. High levels of leadership require greater abstraction.
We also have a problem because order and disorder is often confused with disorder as a medical description. If i suffer from a disorder that is not the same thing as what Kauffman described about self-organizing systems.16/08/2017 #22 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#21 Thank you @Mohammed A. Jawad. In chaotic systems we find the two order and disorder oscillating in layers. If management decides to apply to much control then it should expect that under certain rate of mistrust-building that soon the capacity of the organization to hold the negativity of over-controlling will only lead to chaos. You bring a hugely-important point which is we may generate disorder because of extended over-control.16/08/2017 #21 Mohammed A. JawadPresumably without a distinctive corporate culture the whole work atmosphere will oscillate between order and disorder. And the controlling management team, with gimmicks and politics, will do nothing except more planning and less execution. What then? There's always a residue of corrupt system that derails everything.16/08/2017 #20 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#19 Great point and you remind me of the great comment that @Magdalena-Maria GROSU wrote o the this bizz shred on LI. She makes very strong points and again they are an enforcement to your comment @Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris View more#19 Great point and you remind me of the great comment that @Magdalena-Maria GROSU wrote o the this bizz shred on LI. She makes very strong points and again they are an enforcement to your comment @Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris. Order is born out of disorder. In complexity science e have layers od order within the massive layers of chaos. Close15/08/2017 #17 Debasish Majumderthere should not be an iota of doubt that you are an hard core teacher who is master of initiating disorder to a platform to organize it into an order of your choice, which reflects you are phenomenal too sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee View morethere should not be an iota of doubt that you are an hard core teacher who is master of initiating disorder to a platform to organize it into an order of your choice, which reflects you are phenomenal too sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! you are perhaps by all means an academia. wonderful post sir. enjoyed read and shared. thank you very much for such lovely insightful share. Close15/08/2017 #16 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#13 Absolutely correct dear @Franci🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador "how they can toot their own horn rather than seek the needs of the consumer". Feedback must come from customers and their feedback should focus all efforts to organize works. I am 100% in accordance with your comment.
- 05/08/2017Fractal Geometry
Michael Frame, Benoit Mandelbrot (1924-2010), and Nial Neger
August 5, 2017
Comments06/08/2017 #3 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThe underlying resource is magnificent. To make what is tremendously inaccessible to lay audience or as Michael Frame et al say "This is a collection of pages meant to support a first course in fractal geometry for students without especially strong mathematical preparation, or any particular interest in science.", is quite commendable ! cc @Milos Djukic
- 04/08/2017TECHNOLOGY IS REINVENTING HUMANITY
- Dr Jordan Nguyen, TEDxSydney 2016 Runtime 11:38
I met Jordan, this amazing Aussie dynamo, yesterday.
If want to see how he is "Navigating the Future" set aside 12 minutes with a coffee and be amazed.Technology Is Reinventing Humanity | Jordan Nguyen | TEDxSydney As advances in augmented and virtual technology reinvent our relationship with ‘reality’, we are continually confronted with ever-more complex ethical and...
Comments04/08/2017 #12 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.wow I would say yes to meeting my past self to understand myself better!04/08/2017 #11 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.#1 thanks @Lance 🐝 Scoular listening with my coffee now ;-)
- 27/07/2017Cosmological Entropy Problem(s) by Prof. Daniel Terno This talk is organized as an official event of the Workshop on Frontiers of Quantum and Complexity Science, and supported by the John Templeton Foundation...
Comments27/07/2017 #1 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI watched the first 27 minutes so I am half way through. Love the way he opens the talk with talk of heat death and doomsday scenario's and delivers his presentation with touches of humour without actually tearing that theory to bits. It also shows me just how difficult this subject is with variation in how different physcists or cosmologists view entropy. Thankfully he does not deep dive into equations and Prof Daniel Terno's presentation style is excellent. Just from this talk I can see how complex thinking in the field of economics can lead us to an out-of-control national debt in America, and how complex thinking in the realm of physics can lead to cell-phones that work, so on that ground I can see how the future is being invented in the fields of advanced technology and breakthrough science. It also shows me just how precarious it is to apply this thinking to leadership, especially where leadership is based on advancing practical wisdom. I look forward to listening to the second half of Terno's talk !
- Producer25/07/2017Habits Are Spontaneous ReactionsThe issue of alignment is worthy of more attention. I mean the alignment of employees with their peers and their alignment with the firm’s goals. We see this issue in the formation of self-organized shadow organizations within organizations....
Comments27/07/2017 #28 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeThank you dear @Tausif Mundrawala. The issue of leaders is a complex one. Just ask in buzz for readers to define leaders and see the wide range of comments you shaa receive. Adaptation is surely is an attribute as you outlined in your comment26/07/2017 #27 Tausif MundrawalaI think leaders can't be define by a specific standard or benchmark like what we read about generals, military statesman, political leaders etc. Leaders are created by the circumstances which occur in front of them. How well they could strategize and execute their plans accordingly in order to fare well of the authority they are been presented by all agreed ones. Leaders are been created by the ones who have a shared goal and who all agree to make one among them the highest authority. My comment on the recent buzz of Sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee was basically on this aspect where in reality this small firm is doing well. Again an excellent buzz to reflect upon.26/07/2017 #26 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@CityVP 🐝 Manjit has responded to this buzz in a great buzz that offers new insights. I urge readers of this buzz to read Manjit's buzz to expand on different perspectives. Here is the link to Manjit's buzz
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cityvp/structure-space26/07/2017 #22 CityVP 🐝 ManjitDear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee instead of taking this thread off into a totally new tangent, I have written a Paradox Wisdom to parallel the thinking you have put forth in this buzz. That does not mean I challenge this, only that what i have written in "Structure and Space" is a totally different frame or reference point. See https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cityvp/structure-space26/07/2017 #19 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#13 Absolutely for very focused alignment means having one state and this means entropy is reduced and the possibility of spontaneity goes down. I always say we need spontaneous leaders to allow for the flow of many ideas that create many possibilities. You are spot on @Alan Culler26/07/2017 #18 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#12 Great comment @Sara Jacobovici. I love this idea ""available states". You know you have a great point here. Spontaneity occurs when we have negative free energy. This is Gibbs Free Energy. The other name for it is "Available energy". So, available states is in synchronicity with available energy. The available states increase entropy and the chances for spontaneity increases. You have put your fingers on a great idea. Write a buzz on this, please. You have a wonderful mind.25/07/2017 #13 Alan Culler@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee and @Harvey Lloyd
While alignment is crucial for getting things done in organizations, extreme alignment can be the enemy of spontenaety and autonomy, both of which are required for innovation.
So how do leaders eschew the either/or world of extreme alignment?- " you're either with me or against me." How do leaders enter the both/and world that balances alignment and spontenaety - capitalizing upon the tendency of human systems to self-organize to the long term benefit of the organizations?25/07/2017 #12 Sara JacoboviciGreat perspective @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. The line which has left me thinking is: "Spontaneous reactions occur when a system loses energy to the surrounding and if the available states for the reactants increase." The part that is an eye opener for me is, "if the available states". My gut says, herein lies spontaneity; in the "if". Not knowing then is a precursor. Broken down even more, we find, "available states". This contributes to the unknown which leads to the spontaneity until the available states become known. What is interesting to explore is what makes a state available; what factors in the surround form that state? I think I will pause here Dr. Ali and wait for your feedback.25/07/2017 #11 Alan Culler@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee
So many excellent ideas on this buzz and the comments that follow:
Alignment: Much of my work in the last 37 years had been called leadership alignment- getting a leadership team "on the same page" in implementing change. The secret to it is bringing th hallway discussion into the room - getting what you call a"alternate states" and Wilfred Bion called "pairing" into general discussion and resolution.25/07/2017 #9 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeWell, @Harvey Lloyd- motivating others to work with spontaneity is a way of storing energy in others. As for energy and thriving matrix - I love this coupling and makes a lot of sense to me.
"This moment in time decays from our original view into a evolving energy draw until such time as we can influence"- there is a huge idea in this line: energy evolving. This is a superb way to look at energy. Since we our bunch of energies and the tem evolving energy is new to me, but strikes my mind with its beauty.
You never stop amazing your readers with your penetrating comments25/07/2017 #8 Harvey Lloyd#7 The second law coupled with time would state that energy not used is depleted anyway. Yesterday's energy is gone. I don't believe as humans we can store the style of energy like plants.
Time is an opportunity to act within, once the time has decayed we cant use our energy in the same way. Nature offers us an opportunity to see the matrix of time, energy and thriving.
But nature lives from day to day, finding resources that exist within the time scale and not necessarily stirring, but fortifying their survival.
So as humans we should recognize that the energy of the moment we find ourselves will begin decaying as soon as we see or understand. This moment in time decays from our original view into a evolving energy draw until such time as we can influence.
- 24/07/2017A look at the basics of #AIArtificial Intelligence: Understanding the Hype – Towards Data Science – Mediummedium.com “By far the greatest danger of Artificial Intelligence is that people conclude too early that they understand it.” — Eliezer...
Comments24/07/2017 #6 Phil Friedman#5 Milos, with all due respect, I believe it is an ontological error to overlook the emergence of sentient intelligence in such discussions of self-organization in the universe. You will note that the discussion to which you refer looks to phenomena in the non-sentient physical world for its conceptual model(s). Therefore, I submit that your view (if the reference represents your view) is actually the expression of an axiomatic assumption in your ontological outlook, rather than a supported conclusion. IMHO, of course. :-) Cheers, my friend!24/07/2017 #4 Phil Friedman#3 There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing, but don't you agree that one should take care represent correctly where the shared post originates? Of course, that requires to actually read the post one is recommending and sharing. IMO, networking is a lot more than simply clicking the share button. Cheers!
- Producer10/07/2017Dancing SensesHumans are dancing bodies- molecules in their bodies dance. The cells in their bodies dance. The molecules making up the cells dance. The atoms forming the molecules dance. The particles forming the atoms such as electrons dance. Dancing is on...
Comments12/07/2017 #36 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Magdalena-Maria GROSU started a discussion thread on this buzz on LI
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4972340/4972340-629066312575055462512/07/2017 #35 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#32 The buzz that you wrote today and linking to this buzz is more than enough for me to feel the sincerity of your words. I rarely share a buzz more than platform, but I shared your buzz o three platforms and to my followers because it is a great buzz. i invite readers of this buzz to read to the very sound buzz of Sara in the link below:
I plan to respond to your buzz in my next buzz and also elaborate more on this great comment of yours. I say that you are spot on with your comment and I shall share some proofs of its soundness.12/07/2017 #34 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#31 Dear @Sara Jacobovici- I feel from your words the degree with which you like abuzz of mine. This time I felt the warmth more than ever before. As this buzz proved to be a challenge to write, I assure you your comments relieved me more than you can imagine. I say thank you.12/07/2017 #33 Lisa Vanderburg#31 Thank you, lovely @Sara Jacobovici! I try and read the responses - usually after I've commented as I can't be trusted: a huge Scotsman in a group I was talking with once had such a strong accent, I inadvertently picked it up his accent (a natural mimic) until he got a bit miffed and said, 'R ya taakin the pis'?12/07/2017 #32 Sara JacoboviciDear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, I trust that you will not see the cliches but know of my sincerity when I say that, first, I am truly moved, emotionally and physically, by your buzz and, second, that your buzz has left me with thoughts literally moving about my head in a whirl!! I not only read your buzz but the great discussion it inspires. So I have been reading and following the links and videos and have a list of thoughts that I will add to the questions you posed in a comment in another buzz, pull it all together and see what comes out. In the meantime, I just want to add one thing that I was attaching to your ideas while I was reading and that is the concept of memory, as in cellular memory. At that level, the memory can only come from movement and so it must be with human memory. As you point out, we are made up of cells, everything moves and so memory occurs. We have discussed the concept; where there is life, there is movement, in past buzzes. I think this buzz, Dr. Ali, reinforces that concept perfectly.12/07/2017 #31 Sara Jacobovici#11 I do read the comments of the readers of an @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee buzz @Lisa Vanderburg as it never ceases to amaze me how Dr. Ali's work inspires some of the best insights into the discussion. And it is because I do get to read the comments, I was able to read yours. It definitely resonates with me. Thank you.11/07/2017 #28 Tricia Mitchell#27 my pleasure dear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I appreciate you enhancing my knowledge. It brings to mind the nights when I would blend with the music, happily lost somewhere between the lyrics, beats and memories that 'anthems' evoked. Strangers would ask what I was smiling at. I'd truly found my bliss point. Enjoy your joyful night ☺11/07/2017 #26 Tricia MitchellI love this buzz. The contrast between the peace lily & reed diffuser image and the psychedelic looking video, the calm stillness versus the kaleidoscope of colours, sound & movement; the link back to your slime buzz; the spiritual aspect - I'm working my way through the FB video... It's delightful and reminds me of the whirling dervishes discussion we had about blending spirituality heaven and earth.
"We are fractal dancers"
A truly fascinating buzz.11/07/2017 #25 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#24 Thank you for your dancing cat metaphor. I shall explore it @Jerry Fletcher. Truly, whatever new idea we may have somebody else must have thought about it. The difference is in experimenting this idea. Great and mind-provoking comment, indeed.11/07/2017 #22 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#20 You are very correct @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. If you would review the lengthy research video in the buzz (the linked one as I couldn't embed it in the buzz) you shall find that the type of dance affects differently the spiritual souls. This research by the way is done by Indian reserches in which they used thermo scanning to study the effect of type of dance on the dancers' spiritual state. Not all dances are the same.
When we affect the energy field of the earth by polluting it it shall in turn affect ours and we may end up dancing madly and deprived of human spirit.11/07/2017 #20 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#8 A nations wealth does not equate with the dance of life if that nation fracks the earth, sends chemical pollutants into the water system, emits damaging gases into the atmosphere, creates weapons for profit that enable destabilized regions, cuts down forests without thought of recycling, reducing the variety of seeds in favour of for-profit seeding, ignores soil nutrition in favour of volume, uses fear and hate as principle instruments of control, controls its working population with the drug of superficial entertainment, engages hypocrisy of laws against corruption while creating national debt as the 1% get richer, and do I have to go on and on about what can potentially get in the way of the dance of life.
The dance of life is for the beautiful souls in the world and there are beautiful souls and these beautiful souls are imprisoned in a really ugly and soul-sucking system - a system that is in need of the dance of life - a dance that takes time to form and then to live unencumbered by human foolishness and short-term thinkers - and when a nations wealth equates with the dance of life, we will all surely know it because there would be no questioning about the dance of life, for it will be as natural as air and not polluted air.11/07/2017 #19 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#18 Basically, we should trust our senses @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee. However; we have a proof to trust our senses even more when we see the invisible. The combination of senses such as seeing and hearing even serve our trust more. So, at least there is proof you are right in trusting your senses and calling others to do the same.11/07/2017 #18 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee that is amazing! Thank you so much for sharing. How wonderful to have technology to shine a light on the invisible. I don't need proof like this to sense energy, I trust my felt sense. Although other people with less developed felt sense and more highly developed sense of sight want visible proof of the unseen. Perhaps that helps some activate the felt sense. There must be so much more that is invisible to our sense of sight.
- Producer09/07/2017Can one learn to be creative?In the past few days, I have been drawn to a number of readings that focus on spirituality, creativity and the science behind both. Is the universe trying to tell me something, those who believe in the concept that we are can control what happens to...
Comments09/07/2017 #2 CityVP 🐝 ManjitI did find http://www.creativejeffrey.com/report103/index.php Report 103 interesting. I am open minded to swim in his ungodly.com site but I am cool with seeing life a bread and butter and acknowledge Baumgartner's originality. The last thing a rebel like me needs is to invest in another rebel - especially when I have begun to learn to be a socially good little boy.
I am open minded about religion also, for it has served a useful purpose in organizing civilization. For sure there has been a highly destructive use of religion which has not been a good thing but the essence of my walk here is about my creative rather than destructive response - so it is my focus here is creativity in the way I evolve in it, and certainly not creativity that may invoke the sleeping rebel more settled within me. As that great idiom expresses well "Let sleeping dogs lie" :-)
Comments06/07/2017 #1 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThank you for connecting Eduardo. I find this creative timeline of current and future technologies interesting because there are going to be many people who will not know these technologies. For many people they will see whatever is sold at the high-street level, but this graphic really brings home the incredible amount of accelerated change that is happening. It is truly astounding.
- Producer04/07/2017Emergent ThinkingIt amazes me how simple things lead to emergent thinking. I mean thinking that we didn't plan for or anticipate. Equally surprising is that emergent thinking comes from simple things such as observations and experimentation. For a reason I...
Comments07/07/2017 #77 David B. Grinberg#76 @Phil Friedman, you make excellent points, as usual, and provide important context about tagging and its history in the "Lumpy Kingdom" (credit @Jim Murray for quote). However, at the risk of disagreeing with your admirable judgment, I consider myself more infamous than "established" as a writer. Nonetheless, I appreciate your kind words. Further, I would save "established" for experts such as yourself, Phil, Jim and others. But I digress (again)...Thus, a few points about tagging IMHO:
1) Regardless of where one likes or loathes being tagged, the simple solution is to hit the delete button on your notifications. This only takes a nanosecond, thus I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.
2) As beBee continues to grow I've noticed many new bloggers on Producer. This is great, but it also means more content on Producer, which may make it less likely that all bees will see your posts, unless they specifically subscribe to your blog or specific hives where content is posted (and you actually visit those hives often).
3) I don't mind being tagged, even if it may appear annoying at times. It means a fellow bee out there thought of YOU and respects YOU enough to alert you to their content in the hope YOU will engage. That's a high compliment in my opinion.
4) If any particular bees are stinging too much with tags, you can go to their profile page to block their notifications. You can also politely message them asking to please refrain from the tags.
Therefore, due to the aforementioned reasons, I don't see any big problem with tagging.06/07/2017 #76 Phil Friedman#75 Cyndi and all, not to stomp on dead cockroaches, but for the record, tagging a group of fellow writers and users in the comments of a post began on LinkedIn as a response to the LI algorithm choking down distribution to an author's connections and followers -- who by self-election were supposed to receive notices of such posts. Most of the tagging on LI was mutual and it was an unstated understanding that nobody was obligated in any way to respond. It was not considered an offensive hack, unless you consider reasonably well-established writers like @Paul Drury, @David B. Grinberg, or me offensive. Wait! Don't answer that question.
The core point is that the technique was a response to an unreasonable policy on the part of LinkedIn to tamper with an author's distribution, notwithstanding that such distribution was supposed to go to those users who had explicitly requested to receive them.
Somehow, the practice was transferred here to beBee, where it is much less necessary since @Javier 🐝 beBee and @Juan Imaz are committed to distributing 100% of a writer's posts to 100% of his or her followers 100% of the time. As I say, not arguing the point, just filling in some history for those who might not be aware of it. Cheers!06/07/2017 #75 Cyndi wilkins#68 "It is not tagging per se that Cyndi objects to, but rather having certain people tag her."
I did not say that either, but I think I'm getting the point you are trying to make...In my original statement I said that I find excessive tagging cumbersome...however, I would not 'unfollow' someone because of it. And yes, I did state that I am open to the tag by Ali...as I know he is one that uses the option sparingly...Not a judgement of others use it more frequently...just my personal choice.
To that end your last line resonates with me..."And I see it more as a matter of to each his (or her) own. Cheers!"06/07/2017 #73 Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee#71 I think I finally have to agree. It took a while. I have people tagging me on things I have absolutely no interest in or know nothing about.. I have taken to ignoring such tags hoping they will stop. I want to support people on this site, but when my knowledge is scanty on a subject, how can I? I have nothing valid to add.06/07/2017 #72 Lada 🏡 Prkic#52 As regards promoting (sharing) without reading the whole post, we can never be sure that the post has been read all the way to the end. Many people share posts just because of the author's name. I see it many times here, within closely related groups where authors support one another.
I sometimes share a post even the topic is not interesting to me, but it might be interesting and relevant to someone else on the network. What is relevant to me may not be for other people and vice versa.
The other thing is an excessive tagging. There have been written many posts on that subject. At first, I felt uncomfortable if I didn't respond to tagging. But after a while, I decided not to feel obligated. It would be unfair to share or give a Relevant if I did not read a post, due to lack of time or subject of the post. Not to mention commenting.
Because of the rapid growth of posting on Producer, it is getting harder and harder to notice posts from people with whom I often engage and whose posts I appreciate. I'm glad if these people tagged me.06/07/2017 #71 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeYes, dear @Simone Luise Hardt and yu raise a very relevant point. Not worthy may be in my respective for several reasons. SOmetimes, I am tagged to a buzz that is completely outside my domain of interest or I have no experience to judge. If I tag you toa buzz on thermodynamics would you be interested dear Simone? Would I be honest if I promote a buzz of which I have no experience and share it by writing it is a great buzz?
So, I should have elaborated more and I thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify my thinking.06/07/2017 #68 Phil Friedman#56 #67 Thank you, Ali and Cyndi, for the clarification. If I understand you correctly, it is not tagging per se that Cyndi objects to, but rather having certain people tag her (since it is, by her own words, okay for Ali to tag her anytime). Fair enough.
And Ali seems to object to being tagged on "irrelevant" material, because he won't comment on such but feels badly because he won't. Again, fair enough -- although I'd point out that 1) it is difficult to judge what is relevant and what is not, and 2) being tagged does NOT (to my mind) create an obligation to respond.
My point is that I, like you, prefer not to be tagged by authors with whom I do not regularly interact. But it is a problem that is fully within one's personal power to correct. Therefore, I question the need to call for creation or acceptance of a general policy to deter tagging. And I see it more as a matter of to each his (or her) own. Cheers!06/07/2017 #67 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#66 Thank you @Cyndi wilkins- I totally agree with you. In fact I gave tagging as an example of the possibility of losing trust if a bee tags irrelevant materials. I intended to highlight the need to keep trust and if I am requested to share a buzz that is not worthy and I do then I lose my trust. So, I felt not very good to share because I turned down a request. I appreciate your comment and I hope that we always respect personal choices.05/07/2017 #66 Cyndi wilkins#65 I find this buzz speaks for itself in voicing one's preferences without pointing fingers or telling anyone else what to do...Personally, I would not 'unfollow' someone because it...The only thing that would prompt that for me is 'trolling' or people who just plug their name into the comment section with link bombs to their own posts without regard for the author they have intruded upon...But those are just my personal opinions and I find no need to explain it really...If I have an issue with it, then it's my problem...and it is within my power to disengage...No harm done;-)05/07/2017 #64 Phil Friedman#63 Ali, I agree that it is your prerogative to not want to be tagged and to not respond when people do so. And I reiterate that it is within your power and the dictates of social media etiquette to ask people not to tag you ... or if they won't respect your preference to unfollow them and thereby prevent them from tagging you. What I do not understand is why it bothers some people (not necessarily you) if others go about tagging each other, as long as they leave me (and you, if you say so) out of it. Cheers!05/07/2017 #63 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#61 I don't know if your experienced daily tagging for topics that are of no interest to you or slightly interesting. I feel not too good about being tagged and not acting. For me tagging is a responsibility. I tag sometimes a bee to a buzz that is of interest to him/her. I don't mind at all and in fact I am grateful to people who tag me to buzzes that they know interest me. Tagging is a responsibility for me and if I tag repeatedly a bee to content for whom he has no interest I lost trust. As I said before I don't need to tag my followers because they shall be aware of my buzz when I share it with them twice.
SOmetimes I am tagged to a buzz and when I read it I fins that it is of no interest to me. Two more tags and I lose trust for the source of the tags. Like a bee waggling dance to a food source (buzz) and find it poor. Will bees trust that bee again?
I know tat some fellows agreed with my attitude and some simply didn't. But I shall continue tagging only when necessary.05/07/2017 #62 Phil Friedman#60 Lyon, I don't think my comment in #47 below is snarky at all. It is based on philosophical views developed previously in more formal circumstances. But it is a genuine expression of my belief about the subject. Now, if you want snarky, see #61 below. :-).
BTW, if you are a fan of snarky exchanges, you should read some of the installments of my "beBee vs beBee" series or my "He Said He Said" series, co-authored with my curmudgeonly cohort @Jim Murray. Cheers!05/07/2017 #61 Phil Friedman#56 #54 Perhaps I am being obtuse, but could you explain your objection to other people "tagging" those whom they choose. I understand if you don't want to be tagged excessively or, for that matter, at all.
I don't care to be excessively tagged myself, especially by people with whom I don't interact much. But -- if being tagged annoys me, I simply ask the person involved to stop or I un-follow them so they cannot tag me.
But I don't think to tell other people what to do if it does not directly affect me. True, some of the tagging is directed at boosting the exposure and so "popularity" of some posts and/or authors... but so what? It does not affect anyone else unless we see this all as some sort of competition.
Your further thoughts on this would be appreciated. Cheers!
- 25/06/2017A great person deserves no less: Prof Benoit MandelbrotRemembering the father of fractalsphys.org Benoit Mandelbrot, the mathematics professor at Yale who coined the word "fractal," passed away on October 14 at the age of 85. His death recalls the complicated history of his life's work -- the details of which, like fractals themselves, depend on...
- 25/06/2017Beautiful fractals help solve wiggly problemsphys.org When Harry Potter first went to Hogwarts, he caught his train from Kings Cross, platform...
Comments02/07/2017 #2 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThis is the first time I have head someone describe wiggly problems so I need to think more about what the author is saying here and how this can be applied.
I have heard of "wicked problems" and this is something that has begun to be applied in the world of strategy and is highlighted in thinking such as Anti-Fragile by Nicholas Taleb.
The first question this article places in my mind is What would make wiggly problems different to wicked problems?
HBR - Strategy as a Wicked Problem
Horst Rittel had defined wicked problems way back in 1973 and this is outlined in the link below also
In other words there is now an extensive body of work exploring wicked problems but I have not heard of wiggly problems before or how they differ from wicked problems.
- Producer01/07/2017A Metaphor for Bees and BuzzesSara Jacobovici mentioned repeatedly that she is an integrator and process-oriented. I find myself more complexity-oriented. Are the integrator and process-oriented miscible with each other, or are they on opposing poles? Are they like honey and...
Comments03/07/2017 #48 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#47 May be to see what quality of coffee your clients prefer. Does that give you any clue about them @Preston 🐝 Vander Ven. I am serious and the questions that pops up is can we link what people drink with what they want? If not, why then the common phrase "he isn't my cup of coffee"? A topic that may be is worthy of further investigation.02/07/2017 #46 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#45 I like comments that I just don't know what to respond to. This one of yours @Sara Jacobovici falls under this category.
I am thinking and thinking on your statement " I am thinking that the act or process of separating is necessary only when integration kicks in. If left on its own, separation becomes divisive and gets "allocated" out of the process". I am thinking now and I am waiting for an inspirational ideas to cloud my mind. This is a very thorough idea and I am thinking.02/07/2017 #45 Sara JacoboviciThanks for your last comment @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, much appreciated and very grateful for your mention of me in your buzz. As always, I am commenting after a few reads. Of course a comment can't do justice to the depth of your insight. I will make it easy on myself and use your concluding statement as my beginning. You write: "The more we understand complexity, the more we tie this complexity with adjustment of processes the more successful we shall be." The conscious awareness of what is taking place around us and its dynamic interaction with what is internally taking place is the active ingredient that will enable us to "understand", "adjust" and "succeed". Your buzz made me stop and think about the difference between separating and dividing. I am thinking that the act or process of separating is necessary only when integration kicks in. If left on its own, separation becomes divisive and gets "allocated" out of the process. Always, so much to think about and to take in. I will pause for now and look forward to our future exchanges.02/07/2017 #43 Sara Jacobovici#41 Thank you @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. All I can say is that I get so caught up in your work and the discussions it inspires that I don't even realize that I am doing it until it is brought to my attention. Thank you for the many opportunities you provide for thought provoking exchanges.02/07/2017 #42 Sara Jacobovici#29 Love your comment @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I believe your thought process is an example of "diverging into the intricate complexity". As well I appreciate your added dimension into what I call the language of creative thinking, when you write, "Metaphor helps us ground complex thought and so I see metaphor as a way of converging to what we know in comparison."02/07/2017 #39 Sara Jacobovici#17 Dear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, I am beyond words. Here I am, enjoying my "process" of reading a Dr. Ali buzz, which means also scrolling down to read the discussion. I remember a line from @CityVP 🐝 Manjit's comment and then I see it quoted in your reply, tagging me to bring it to my attention. Then I move on to read @Deb 🐝 Helfrich's comment and ask her the question if what she had said in her last line of her comment could be considered a definition of "adaptation." Then I read in your reply to Deb's comment, your perspective of her comment incorporating the idea of adaptation. I just had to share this "process" that has taken place (and I am still not finished reading). I have to confess, I did have my coffee first before I started engaging.02/07/2017 #37 Sara Jacobovici#14 Hi @Deb 🐝 Helfrich. I just finished commenting on the directions of complexity and process so insightfully described by @CityVP 🐝 Manjit, saying that I imagined that the direction for either can change depending on the interaction in the moment. Then I read your experience of the directions as being opposite in nature to that described in Manjit's comment. I also want to highlight your last line, "I dwell in complexity in order to devise a new process that suits a specific niche." I wonder if that can be one definition of "adaptation"?02/07/2017 #36 Sara Jacobovici#13 Right on it @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! I had to read @CityVP 🐝 Manjit's line a few times as it, literally, "moved" me. This definitely makes sense, but my gut reaction is that the description, "With the complexity view one has to zoom outwards and in the process view one can zoom inwards"., reflects a snapshot of a moment in the dynamic interaction of us humans in the world. The reverse can occur as a result of another interaction. I don't imagine either to maintain one direction.01/07/2017 #33 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#29 I hope that Dr. @Vincenzo De Florio and Dr. @Milos Djukic would read your line "The actual science outlined in this buzz diverges into turning the coffee cup into a fractal. In the fractal we can look for patterns that is self-similar but in the metaphor we look for meaning that a metaphor may unpack for us". Fractal coffee in which we zoom in and out on hour coffee and see what we haven't seen before.01/07/2017 #32 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#30 @Deb 🐝 Helfrich- Astonishing mind and no wonder you extracted a huge wisdom "Decide to step into the magnificent capacity of all life on Earth or stay submerged in our current world of non-organic structures". SO eloquent and I shall be surprised if you don't expand on this great idea.01/07/2017 #30 Deb 🐝 Helfrich"an hour glass where we [...] are physically the meeting point in the middle between the vast cosmos and the vast quantum."
That is an astounding metaphor, especially in conjunction with "Converge and diverge at the level of the known is as narrow a parameter as operating in visible light"
We humans have done so much to structure our world, when we look historically. But we've achieved just a tiny fragment of the infinite that truly surrounds us.
For me, right now, it all hinges on the fulcrum of one decision:
Decide to step into the magnificent capacity of all life on Earth or stay submerged in our current world of non-organic structures.
As I've decided to shout: "I DEMAND A LIFE-CENTRIC WORLD"
Comments23/06/2017 #7 CityVP 🐝 ManjitMy word Vincenzo! This resource extends to nearly 900 pages and that does not even include Steven Wolfram's notes, and the way it has been placed online is the best form of digital navigation I have seen, what a way for him to share his life's work. I am saving this link to my desktop, what a great reference source to have at one's finger tips. Marvelous !
- 28/04/2017Once we understand that we are composed of bacteria and that we cannot live without bacteria, then it is an enlightenment to understand that relationship even though science has barely begun to understand these relationships including findings related to gut-mind.
I embrace this paradox where our conceptual leaps produce within us the ability to think anew. Paradox is simply our individual ability to learn from ideas we would not otherwise think about or from people who are different to us. This ability is not in destroying an idea but building upon an idea and that is for me what is 21st Century thinking.
This does not discount those that view science as concrete fact, but allows us to imagine what science has not yet found. At a managerial level, we want to be grounded but as leadership complexity increases, the ability to abrticularly look for in a leader. @Edward Lewellen last year introduced me to forms of bacteria which introduced me to new vista's of thought
That is why I hold @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee in such high regard, because in interacting with him, I invariably begin to think at levels that I would not ordinarily allow myself to do and in that moment I transcend any of my innate command and control desires and begin to embrace open minded exploration. I am not afraid of the destructive but want more creative in a world lack of pragmatic but creative thinking.Are Bacteria Friend or Foe?www.thoughtco.com Humans and bacteria coexist in different types of symbiotic relationships. Not all bacteria are pathogenic and most are beneficial to...
Comments29/04/2017 #15 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#9 There can be no doubt about the coexistence what is surprising is how we try making being human as removed from that coexistence.
Bacteria were here billions of years before us and they will be here billions of years after us - and so in this regard the hypothesis of "panspermia" is interesting because it prompts more questions in this direction, but also that the scientific method is dependent on a hypothesis. http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/origin-of-life-on-earth5.htm
The basis we arrive at a hypothesis is itself an interesting way to think because it means brighter minds than ours require an open minded world to explore more rather than be constrained by religion or politics : http://www.statisticalmisconceptions.com/sample2.html29/04/2017 #11 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeI responded to this thoughtful buzz here:
https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/the-ripples-from-ideas-pebbles29/04/2017 #7 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeMy dear friend @CityVP 🐝 Manjit- I am totally confused by this buzz in a positive way. I have already finished the background image for my next buss on "The Ripples of Pebble Ideas".Then came this buzz and I still shall keep the same title, but with a new direction just to respond to this buzz. I am going to write it now.29/04/2017 #6 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#5 I read the linked article and it is fascinating. I enjoyed reading immensely. I poised on this part ""It's helpful to remember that each drop of seawater contains millions of bacteria and that only one of them, in theory, is needed to colonise a new habitat, says Kirchman". Our brain has more than 80% of weight water. How many bacteria live in our minds then? Dealing with the whole body requires dealing with this important findings. .29/04/2017 #5 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#4 Bacteria demand respect. Look how the destructive life-ending power of an underwater volcano is first colonized by a newly found type of bacteria, that become the first step in creating a new ecology of life. https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-find-hairy-microbes-growing-out-of-nowhere-after-a-volcanic-eruption29/04/2017 #4 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#3 Your writing "My motivation here is understanding the quality of soil that emanates from volcanoes and not simply the volcano" is indicative that you are more ten a :"whole thinker" or systemic thinker. You are a complexity thinker as you see the whole to understand the parts. Understanding the parts may not lead to the understanding of the whole. Y0u are a great thinker @CityVP 🐝 Manjit29/04/2017 #3 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#2 Dear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee My motivation here is understanding the quality of soil that emanates from volancoes and not simply the volcano.
Life becomes delectably mysterious my friend when we draw out the long-term value, and in this very example I have embraced paradox again, for all moments deposit their value, as life starts anew and whether it is about critical thinking or it is about creative thinking, there is a great heat of value to born from that continuum - http://volcanology.geol.ucsb.edu/soil.htm
The quality of soil here at beBee keeps me on a road of learning and an unequivocal assertion that if you were not here, I would feel the burning not the learning, then there would be no reason for me to be here. We all have a purpose and a way and it is best to honour that difference, so here I praise the soil, but in doing so we must also honour the volcano.29/04/2017 #2 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee@CityVP 🐝 Manjit- I know wh you wrote this buzz and your motivation. I am sure you have noticed that I have been "watching" discussions on my buzz and the buzz written by @Phil Friedman opposing my buzz. I decided to watch the discussions silently. However; your buzz here forced me to speak up a little.
I have deep respect for you and I couldn't ignore your kind words about me. I also couldn't overlook your deep statement "This ability is not in destroying an idea but building upon an idea and that is for me what is 21st Century thinking".
THis is mainly to thank you my friend for your kind words and to assure you that I have same feelings towards you.
I have to salute gere @Deb 🐝 Helfrich.for her deep understanding as evidenced by her comment here.28/04/2017 #1 Deb 🐝 HelfrichScience is really a process of asking astute questions and seeking ways to answer those questions, it is not about some 7 year old study with an understandable synopsis that the media can propagate.
We are so far from the end of knowledge that it is mind boggling.
Our microbiome and its optimal health is crucial to our capabilities to use our mind in creative ways, because pain and illness shuts down openness and exploratory thoughts until we reach homeostasis.
Talking through things in an open forum and considering each new component of information is how knowledge will move forward in the future.
Citizen science offers a great deal of power especially in the fields of biology and medicine, because we can now access large samples with virtual tools that can bring up the confounding factors much quicker than conventional studies.
- 23/04/2017A great person deserves no less: @John White, MBA
If you know him, everything is possible and good prevails.These 'Fabergé Fractals' will blow your mind ScienceAlert Beddard explains: "The 3D fractals are generated by iterative formulas whereby the output of one iteration forms the input for the next. The formulas...
Comments24/04/2017 #9 stephan metral 🐝 Innovative Brand AmbassadorYes..but you know really @John White, MBA, any ressemblance with a certain...O-beBee-Wan Kenobi ? Don't ya think I am right ? @Milos Djukic @David B. Grinberg @Juan Imaz @Javier 🐝 beBee @Matt 🐝 Sweetwood..he knows the ways of the Foooooorce.23/04/2017 #6 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeGreat sharing dear @Milos Djukic. I enjoyed watching tremendously. The description of the video says "The fascinating aspect is where combinations of parameters can combine to create structural 'resonances' of extraordinary detail and beauty". SImple approach, but amazingly wonderful.23/04/2017 #1 John White, MBA"The 3D fractals are generated by iterative formulas whereby the output of one iteration forms the input for the next. The formulas effectively fold, scale, rotate or flip space. They are truly fractal in the fact that more and more detail can be revealed the closer to the surface you travel.
The fascinating aspect is where combinations of parameters can combine to create structural 'resonances' of extraordinary detail and beauty—sometimes naturally organic and other times perfectly geometric. But then like a chaotic system it can completely disappear with the smallest perturbation." Mind blown! "Whoa" - @Gerald Hecht
- Producer01/04/2017Simple Rules Are the Anchors for EmergenceWhile reading a quote by David O. McKay my mind started nagging me. The quote reads: We sow our thought>>>> we reap our actions We sow our actions>>> we reap our habits We sow our habits>>> we reap our...
Comments03/04/2017 #66 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#65 This comment of yours @Savvy Raj reflects your depth and maturity. I don't want to interrupt the dialogue between you and @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I want to register my appreciation of your comment and to give a promise to read your two buzzes very soon.03/04/2017 #65 Savvy Raj#63 Thank you @ CityVP Manjit for bringing me here and for the kind mention and share of my todays buzz on Subtlety Consciousness Although it has yet to receive some views if it has a purpose as to why I must have created it it certainly it will fulfill it in time! Like through your kind share of it here for instance 😊
@ Ali Anani thank you for inviting me here in your very purposeful buzz as well as for these amazing writers who have shared their heartprints of wisdom and goodwill.It will certainly be a treat to read their comments as much as this 'successful buzz' ! It is certainly a joy to read your insights here.
Well you have essentially captured the manyessential elements towards emergence...And I do beleve that the depth of purpose is one of the paths leading to successful emergence .And success is an interesting journey and not a destination . Success is truly sensed when we find the purpose and in working towards it passionately.
The more you sense the bigger picture ... you lovingly loose yourself in something that is bigger than yourself... the greater your energy and the closer you are to where you want to be ..
Success in such an evolving emergence is within each of us ... waiting for us to make a move towards it.
And perhaps if you find time , you would like to read two of my poems that I sense an interconnect here .One on the Subtlety of Consciousness. and then Emergence. Would be happy to read your reflections to it.03/04/2017 #64 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#63 I am just "listening" now to this wonderful exchange of comments. Revolve and evolve- only one letter (r) makes so much difference. Even letters show a butterfly effect. I hope that @Savvy Raj adds her wisdom to the pile of wisdom that is building up here. Thank you @CityVP 🐝 Manjit and I have no doubt tat @Harvey Lloyd will have something to share us with.03/04/2017 #63 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#58 The world revolves and all life including human life evolves. It is not too challenging a word if we realize that there are parts of our DNA that have no apparent function, they are dormant and doing nothing - and here something is transmitted or transformed and there is new code operating within us.
What is frightening about tech and synthetic biology is how it is tampering with our inner code and trying to splice into our human code. No wonder some technologists fear that we are creating the end of our own species as we tamper with life.
Accelerated change at the individual level has allowed us to do something here that would have required much time in days of letters - which is deposit thought that is immediate and be able to draw in thoughts at a rate that human beings have never done before - and that must surely be triggering something in the dormant parts of our DNA - because our mind and body is now responding to something new, in ways I assume our DNA is already encoded to expect.
Take @Savvy Raj latest buzz "Subtlety of Consciousness" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@savvy-raj/subtlety-of-consciousness the way it is read is how we have evolved to read it or where our code is in terms of maturity and how we will evolve once new inputs permeate us. The impact of evolution here is personal, it is what evolves within us - and that is why I think revolutions have limited impact and often return us back to what we originally revolted from.03/04/2017 #61 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#60 You walk the talk my friend @Aaron 🐝 Skogen and therefore your words resonate strongly with me. You live the experience of giving service to others as testifies very well in your last buzz. So, I love your adding "May we sow gratitude, and reap the greatest of all gifts. I sow now the seeds of gratitude to your deeds for the needy and you reap the respect and hearts of all of us.03/04/2017 #60 Aaron 🐝 Skogen#20 I am humbled that you would so kindly share and reference my buzz @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee.
I absolutely love your conclusion here, "Peace in the heart starts by loving for others what you love for yourself." This implies service to others, which I believe is a gateway to living a life of gratitude. May we sow gratitude, and reap the greatest of all gifts.
I am reminded of a quote,
“Gratitude unlocks the fullness of life. It turns what we have into enough, and more. It turns denial into acceptance, chaos to order, confusion to clarity. It can turn a meal into a feast, a house into a home, a stranger into a friend.” ~ Melody Beattie
Thank you for this wonderful Buzz my friend.03/04/2017 #59 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#58 I am sure @CityVP 🐝 Manjit shall respond to your great comment @Harvey Lloyd. You both raise hugely interesting discussions and I don't want to interrupt the flow.
"Can we put the cat back in the bag"? Would love to hear the answer of Manjit.03/04/2017 #58 Harvey Lloyd#53 "Evolve". This is a very challenging word as it implies the mass change to a society in a direction. Today it would appear that we can reach a state of evolution of serving others only after we have ventured past our own right of passage. This right of passage is defined by our narrative of home, community and education. The real conundrum is when we realize that everyone is seeking this right of passage. The friction begins.
Your comments ring with truth. Our struggle to establish security within our existence comes at a cost, when we take our own we may be removing someone else's.
This would establish that each individual would need to evolve into a greater set of "rules" as @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee has presented here. This is what the 60's were all about, breaking free of these rules. Can we put the cat back in the bag?
This discussion, as with all of Dr. Ali's, are intriguing and deserve some time in the sun. Your thoughts are always illuminating.02/04/2017 #54 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#53 This is a treasure of a comment dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. I think this comment reinforces the great comments here by @Harvey Lloyd. Every line of this comment is a wisdom on its own.
I commented an hour ago on a buzz bt our friend @David B. Grinberg in which he highlighted the unfortunate practices of nations spending so much on wars, but so little on healthcare. Instead of bringing brains together we are separating them, if not killing them. This is accordance with your writing Manjit " Once we are at this point of evolution, our humanity beings to form with a new map and new means of translation and peace emerges from that. If war emerges from that, we are still using the old map and yet calling ourselves 21st century".
Your comment truly reflects your writing "What you are exploring here is at the forefront of human evolution in the full meaning of what evolve means". I can easily replace you with Manjit and this is the value of this splendid comment.02/04/2017 #53 CityVP 🐝 ManjitWhat you are exploring here is at the forefront of human evolution in the full meaning of what evolve means. This is the domain of the few and not the many because the language of buy-sell see this thinking as a cost rather than a value. The traditional buy and sell is a traditional market and trade routes and tribal culture are a part of that deep history.
I don't assume the word emergence as a form of positive thinking, after all emergence is rooted in the word "emergency". When we move to a more evolved state, we stop relating emergency to view it as a danger, but start seeing emergency as in "emerge". Once we are at this point of evolution, our humanity beings to form with a new map and new means of translation and peace emerges from that. If war emerges from that, we are still using the old map and yet calling ourselves 21st century.
Now we are beginning to see new ways of exchanging value but in systems that value the traditional ways. It is ancient and historical legacy that fuels the modern marketplace and not evolution of our core humanity. As we evolve in our collective humanity, this value will be seen by us as highly reasoned and the way things are but what is so obvious and good for the future of humanity. This is not what a vast percentage of the world has either learned to see or are still not being taught how to see.
We will eventually get there, but just because we have open forms of networks, does not mean that networks are yet evolved.02/04/2017 #50 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#49 In the draft copy of this buzz I included a corroded image of a bolt holding a ship on water. The bolt was corroded. I opted to remove this part. Now, I wish I didn't. You idea @Harvey Lloyd "We may state a value but as we move from elementary understanding to wisdom we must remove the corrosion through learning". Yes, we may deal with the corroded bolt. We learn as we act.02/04/2017 #49 Harvey Lloyd#48 Values are something that require maintenance. We may state a value but as we move from elementary understanding to wisdom we must remove the corrosion through learning. No anchor of values is fully understood by us as in the flexibility of execution we learn, we evolve.
Yes each encounter with you is one of burning synaptic challenges. I enjoy the interface as we seek wisdom in existence.02/04/2017 #48 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#47 "We cant know the future but we can enter the future with anchored values and a flexible style of executing the present". This is my gem of the day. Somehow you remind me of my experience of insulation materials. The components are the same; the application by spraying, moulding and mixing of ingredients from two containers vary with the construction being insulated, wind (no to blow off sprayed materials), heat, wind speed are variables and dictate what insulation application to employ. Yes, we may have fixed and anchoring values , but their application may differ.
One idea that pops up what id the anchor is corroded? Oh, I feel burning charcoal falling on my head.02/04/2017 #47 Harvey Lloyd#46 An anchor is designed to be inflexible and to stay rigid. The application of the anchor can be flexible or semi-flexible. Values are something that anchor our patterns of behavior in flexible situations. I have seen values that were good but inflexible in application. This is when we get that feeling of tyranny in our group.
We cant know the future but we can enter the future with anchored values and a flexible style of executing the present.02/04/2017 #46 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#45 It was your comment @Harvey Lloyd that was the spark for me to write this buzz. So, as greatly as I appreciate your writing "One of the greatest compliments one could receive is, another can quote what you would do or say in a given situation. @Ali Anani this one swung for the fences and i believe you produced a home run" You share the pride as well.
I am moved by your insight of having positive and negative anchors. Your writing " drift. This presents us with two styles of anchors. One that clearly attaches us to a set of values and doesn't change; Another that allows the drift of these values so we may meet the needs of the moment" is hair-raising. It is fixed rules of genuine advantage that we may anchor positively. Sometimes, we tend to let the values (anchors( drift for one reason or the other. Some people would rather be killed and not compromise on them. We have many examples. May be the idea of semi-fixed enter into play. Like semi-flexible materials. I need to think more on this one. You stretch my mind again with your challenging ideas and nothing pleases probably more than finding myself in tis situation. Here I miss the feedback of our friend @Sara Jacobovici. I long for her input.02/04/2017 #45 Harvey Lloyd"They are the anchors to our development and the emergence of new habits, solid characters and opening of new horizons." "Anchors" is a boring and challenging word in a fast pace society where the need of the moment is stronger than our fundamental "purpose".
I caught a post here on a new technology that would help safe large ships that have lost power. Basically it applied a Sea Anchor, an anchor that is a underwater sail, that keeps the bow of the boat into the wind and slows the drift. This presents us with two styles of anchors. One that clearly attaches us to a set of values and doesn't change; Another that allows the drift of these values so we may meet the needs of the moment. Drifting values, after a few cycles, catches up to us, as the folks in our circles begin to see the values are customized at each setting. This raises questions from the different members of our social group concerning our real motives.
Anchored values can also offer positive or negative results as your post indicates. Good anchored values offer us a fresh start with each situation that our motives can not be explained as service to others. Our motives may not be liked but non the less will be accepted as they are consistent, focused on the success of others and represent a path that all can participate.
One of the greatest compliments one could receive is, another can quote what you would do or say in a given situation. @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee this one swung for the fences and i believe you produced a home run.
- Producer18/03/2017A stillness in the eye of eternityThis buzz represents an eclectic mosaic of several of my previous articles. I have been inspired to reproduce this piece as a result of the insightful and thought-provoking articles and comments by the likes of @Ali Anani @CityVP Manjit...
Comments08/04/2017 #25 Ian Weinberg#23 Thanks for sharing your personal narrative @Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee You represent a very small minority that have achieved insight and awareness of our tarnished human condition from challenging life experiences. But derived from your insight, awareness and courage you have transcended the limiting and destructive emotions to become a great value contributor to many others. Best of wishes.08/04/2017 #24 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee@Ian Weinberg you also mention the work of David Bohm, one of the many people I deeply respect. The embodied experience of sitting in a circle and dialoguing with a group of people taps into our whole intelligence beyond words and thoughts. It is a visceral experience, and the many pauses built into the dialogue process give the space for creative ideas to emerge. I wish their were more people willing to have deep conversations in this kind of space.08/04/2017 #23 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee2) Whilst my generation, my brother and sister and me were not physically violent, we had all internalised violence against ourselves in our thoughts and beliefs of ourselves to not be worthy enough. I now have a strong sense of inner security that has nothing to do with reward and gratification or objects and I have embraced a greater context even when I was very young. I had a sense that my father's pain had to do with something that he did not understand so I had incredible compassion and love for him. My sons were not subjected to physical violence, but they did grow up and picked up my lack of self worth. Fortunately, my commitment to deep learning meant, I brought my sons up to reflective, to have conversations about beliefs, about behaviours and defensive routines. attended family therapy. they both have the capacity for deep pause and reflection and transformation. So in my lifetime, I have seen 4 generations transcend the limitation from early environments where more healthy nurturing was needed. I have also been able to guide my coaching clients to become aware of their limitations and self-heal. None of this has anything to do with AI. I apply methods to access intelligence from my whole bodied intelligence. I am left with great optimism for the future.08/04/2017 #22 Deb🐝 Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBeeAnother intriguing post @Ian Weinberg I agree, "we individually control very little of our environments and indeed, our lives. Most of our choices are determined by our unique individual history, our nature-nurture heritage." - yes, and yet, I have been dedicated to overcoming the limitations from my childhood. And help others to do so.
"The challenge for each one of us is to be able to transcend this common, collective homogenate of functioning mediocrity as well as our personal heritage constraints (limiting beliefs) and contribute our unique co-creativeness." - I can share that in my family of origin there was a history of domestic violence. Well, I only know about 4 generations. My grandfather fought in WW1 and was in an era when women were subservient and "men" often relieved their pain by being angry with their wives. My father, when he was young and controlled by his father, mirrored this behaviour, but, only when he had drunk too much alcohol. He drank too much alcohol as he was in WW2 and came back with trauma which he did not know how to heal. When his father died, my father stopped drinking and stopped being violent. I had conversations about this with him. In my generation, I was dedicated to healing my trauma from my early childhood. I did to some extent early on in life, but then as you said in a previous post, at about 40 there can be a collapse. So, in mid-life I suffered a set back when I was in a relationship with a controlling partner who demeaned and repressed me psychologically, emotionally and financially. Fortunately, I did much emotional, energetic, psychological healing and became strong enough to move away from the narcissist and misogynist. TBC in next post.20/03/2017 #21 Ian Weinberg#20 Interesting perspective @CityVP 🐝 Manjit I would propose an expanding consciousness growing through the expansion of each individual consciousness. And so each unique one of us, connected in space-time as well as in the energy equivalence thereof, have a heritage which determines our comfort zone and from where we will co-create. The obvious consequence is that we can never define with certainty what it's all about because through Heisenberg's Uncertainty and continual collapsing of Shrodiger's Wave, we are continually changing reality! Unless of course this was all factored into the source files ....20/03/2017 #20 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#19 Ian, the interesting choice of picture accompanies a very elegant title. "A Stillness in the Eye of Eternity" raises what you write to the poetic level and I think it is very important for people who think at abstract levels to have a poetic rather than prosaic expression.
After all the fundamental nature of mathematics is beauty and in mathematics we have the language that gets closer to comprehending to a humble degree, the actual cosmos. The picture of the cosmic eye shown in the buzz actually reminds me of our human limitation, which is an inbuilt one that provides us an anchor against uncertainty and accompanied us when we were born and that is the desire to create meaning and patterns, which in turn relieves us of the anxiety from the unknown.
Yet the cosmos will always in its unlimited vastness absolutely remain a place of the unknown, so I pay attention to how we anthropomorphize the cosmos or the larger than life dimensions of our comparative existence. Your words do describe our fundamental reality that we came from cosmos and not a cosmos made by us.
In this humility exists a massive liberation of our being for we are then not attached to mortality and discover cosmos is not mortal either - that the big bang may well be a never ending dance of dimensions and one day we will transmit as energy into that, which brings us to that which we can be certain, that we are made up of star dust, not just ashes to ashes, dust to dust.20/03/2017 #18 CityVP 🐝 ManjitA wonderful buzz, everything written here represents a kindred spirit. The interesting thing about this way of seeing is that once we see things this way, we never go back to the way we used to see these things. It requires patience and level-setting to recognize that this way of being and seeing is the lesser road traveled, but the chief road to a more practically wise future.19/03/2017 #16 🐝 Fatima G. WilliamsReflection + Reasoning ( Emotional prompts) = Clarify + Awareness
I'm going to keep this formula very safe and use it every single time I experience an emotion. We search for peace / calmness in materialistic things. Reward, success, money etc. The formula above not only creates calmness but to pause regularly and clear the toxic thoughts from our mind, enhance awareness, become more sensitive, gain clarity. I love the addition of gratitude which it very important fine-tune our subjective world view. Thank you @Ian Weinberg18/03/2017 #14 Pamela 🐝 Williams#13 okay so I know I'm being the pessimist today :-), but unfortunately history has taught us that critical mass is reached only after many suffer. WWI, WWII. Now we are capable of truly mass destruction and so I must ask; who would survive WWIII. Whenever I get into the negative frame of mind I think of my grandfather and his advice to my brother: Take that negative cable off your car battery and try to start your car...It takes the positive and negative viewpoints to fully appreciate all the implications.18/03/2017 #12 Pamela 🐝 WilliamsWell said Ian. I have been questioning myself of late about the US political environment in which I currently exist. As a single mother for 27 years my core that been about controlling the environment so as to create an environment of creativity, thought, growth and yet predictability (as best I could) for my daughter. For most parents we realize; these are difficult to accomplish (it takes a 'similar' village). But that need to 'control' becomes habitual so I've asked myself; are my frustrations and yes, even anger at our current 'state of the union' a result to my conditioning myself to 'control' in an environment where I have no control? A brilliant professor whose Resolving Environmental Conflict class I was fortunate enough to attend spoke often of the subjectivity of dealing with conflict. Everyone comes to the table with set beliefs and strong emotional investment in approaching environmental issues; (I appreciated your mentioning environmental science) and it was our duty to be sensitive to all views, the maintain calm when others could not be objective. Where I can achieve that calm at this time in history, to release the need to control, is an ongoing battle. The fear of loss in that situation has far reaching consequences; a butterfly, to a tornado; to a tsunami that threatens to drown humanity as it grows and spreads fear and chaos across the planet and throughout humanity.18/03/2017 #10 Harvey LloydYou have predictably created both the complexity of existence and the ability to execute free will in choosing our path. Being an entrepreneur you learn the control issues very quickly, you have none. You have influence only. Grit can carry you but so far. The challenge is to transcend into interdependence, where control is left behind.
The area of our "narrative" is what fascinates me the most. Having rode across country several times on two wheels the most exciting part was meeting the different people and their "influence". There is one destination we all seek, but many paths. The question looms large as to whether the path is shared or not.
On these journeys there always seemed to be a common thread. Those who chased money (Power, social standing, etc..) and those who chased joy. Oddly the ones who had joy had money and didn't care. The opposite was true for the money chasers, even if they had enough it wasn't. It was the path to joy i found so fascinating.
I am still convinced that we require higher authority to break our own cycles of discontent. It is difficult to break from the circular arguments of our own limiting beliefs if we cant call upon a stable and understanding higher authority.
Great read and thought provoking.18/03/2017 #6 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeePart/ 2
You wrote I n in the buzz "Well, there’s enough reason to pause regularly, find a quiet spot, clear the toxic thoughts from your mind, enhance awareness, become more sensitive, gain clarity and calmness and I would, in addition, throw in a generous helping of gratitude. Then rise with courage and contribute the value of your unique co-creativity".
In the above paragraph you build a butterfly effect. pause regularly in a quiet spot> leads to clearing of toxic thoughts> enhance awareness> become more sensitive> gain clarity> express gratitude> to rise with courage.
We fall on different points on the spacetime of this beautiful thinking fractal. Everyone of us may try to find out his position on this evolving fractal. Where do I stand? My response shall be in my next buzz in which I shall refer to this grand buzz.18/03/2017 #5 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBeeGreat thoughts @Ian Weinberg. I am honored to have a mention in this grand buzz. While reading I copied and pasted the points that thrilled me. Here they are as they weave a story on its own. The quotes are in sequence:
In absolute terms therefore, we individually control very little of our environments and indeed, our lives. Most of our choices are determined by our unique individual history, our nature-nurture heritage.
The whole process therefore conforms very much to Lorenz Chaos Theory: The life narrative is determined very much by its historical starting point but the final outcome is modified by the multiple influences that occur along the life path.
We also live in a psycho-social collective in which there are multiple inputs from many other subjective beings. Everyone gives voice and action to their subjective needs which reflect their individual origins in time and space.
The challenge for each one of us is to be able to transcend this common, collective homogenate of functioning mediocrity as well as our personal heritage constraints (limiting beliefs) and contribute our unique co-creativeness.
The hunger for reward and gratification as well as the fear of loss is subsequently diminished as we embrace a greater context.
What could I add to such wonderful thoughts?
- Producer12/03/2017The Hidden Paradox of PredictabilityThe weather forecast hasn't been very accurate in our region this year. Warnings of heavy snow storms were mostly false warnings. The response to the warnings was peoples started to store food supplies, fill tanks with fuel for heating homes and...
Comments13/03/2017 #17 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#16 I am not surprised at all to read your fluency and flow of ideas dear @Tausif Mundrawala. You are a writer and you have the seeds to be a very well known one. I look forward too to reading your buzz on senses. I have just commented on a great buzz by dear @Sara Jacobovici on the smell sense and what a great read it is!. So, you have to excel and you are up to the challenge.13/03/2017 #16 Tausif MundrawalaI think the winner would be the one who has the flexibility and adaptability towards change and that person should embrace it immediately. People are often attached to their habits where even an iota of change seems an impossible task for them. Change is constant as been said correctly. As we age we change from the core but it is upon us to maintain our physical and mental beings properly.
I couldn't resist myself to read and comment on this buzz because I have seen unknown changes in me as I was hit by the circumstances which demanded and snarled for change. I am about to publish a buzz on the topic of senses and I hope it would be liked by everyone as @Sara Jacobovici has encouraged me to pen one.
Your buzzes are an delight in themselves because it resonates with everyone well to an extent where we need to pick that flipped pages once again from our life.13/03/2017 #15 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#14 WOW! This response is a buzz on its own and a valuable one too @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. My friend you wrote "Why violet is important to me is because the power and ability of abstraction is not something everyone learns to see - at the level of abstraction we are no longer watching football but thinking how we change it". Astonishingly, I am writing a buzz based on realizing abstractions and giving them a practical sense. This buzz resulted from reading two contributions on same day by the two grand ladies. @Sara Jacobovici sharing a video on generating music from musical instruments carved from solid ice. The other contribution from @Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc., who contributed a buzz on "Freezing Your Mind". The freezing mind is the abstract ice instrumentt to generate music. You keep my soul warm dear Manjit even in the freezing ice.13/03/2017 #14 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#13 #12 My hive colour for paradox, complexity, creativity, innovation and emergence is violet - a metaphor for ultra violet. Feedback itself is not a paradox but a leadership trait, so this hive colour is blue, and if anything you have reminded me that I have been skipping my own system here ! Why violet is important to me is because the power and ability of abstraction is not something everyone learns to see - at the level of abstraction we are no longer watching football but thinking how we change it.
Now when it comes to scientific method and logic and reasoning, my colour for that is magenta (the magenta mind I like the sound of that), which is now separate from culture (yellow like sun). Of course just basic communication skills are GRAY, but it is gray which is at the foundation of learning.
It is the two end-point colours of the spectrum which are the road less traveled - the Infra-Red of entrepreneurial mindset, financial mind and mathematical thinking and of course the Ultra-Violet. It is however ultra-violet which is my starting point for thinking about creative thinking and magenta my starting point for thinking about critical thinking. Where RED features is as an economics of predictability which is a totally different beast to the economics of possibility. Ironically predictability is red but possibility is violet - but that is the paradox for me here (without diminishing my other colour hives) -
1. Possibility found through predictability [RED]
2. Predictability found through possibility [VIOLET]13/03/2017 #12 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#10 You are a unique thinker dear @CityVP 🐝 Manjit. Yes, fortunes swing and how many times the result of a game changed in the added extra time? Coaches plan and misfortunes happen like a defender scoring in his own net or a forward missing an empty goal. I love the way you put it "The chief paradox I am dealing with now is realizing that at the mass scale people are generally uncomfortable with feedback, even good feedback". I am asking myself now responding to your feedback "A mi comfortable"? May be not as much as I wanted. Why/ Because what if I misunderstood your comment? What if my response is shallow? Sometimes, the greater the comment is; paradoxicaly, the greater the discomfort is. I wonder what color you would give this paradox, Manjit!13/03/2017 #11 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#9 With all honesty I tried to remember the name of the Fermi's Paradox and it just elapsed my memory. Thank you for reminding me of it. There is a lovely reference to youR question and it is startling.
I shall be back with my personal view once I finish my pondering on your great comment dear @David B. Grinberg12/03/2017 #10 CityVP 🐝 ManjitThe chief paradox I am dealing with now is realizing that at the mass scale people are generally uncomfortable with feedback, even good feedback - there is something in the human condition which switches us into certainty mode.
In tribal settings like a football match, the irony is that the masses buy a soccer ticket for the uncertainty. It is like we give ourselves permission to suffer for our team but go back to form as soon as we have left the stadium. We bite our nails, time stops still when our team is winning and there are just minutes left, whereas the uncertainty of the supporter whose team is losing speeds up their perception of time, they notice every delay in the game, shout invective if the opposing team appears to be time wasting.
I was fascinated by the mechanics of the recent match between Barcelona and PSG where the temperature of the ground was elevated to fever pitch by the last few minutes of the game where Barcelona clawed back 3 goals to win 6-1 and thus over-turn a 0-4 deficit from the first leg. It was the look on the PSG players which did freeze as the crowd started to heat up collectively with what were essentially the Barcelona tribe clasping hands, praying for the miracle and confused PSG fans who must have sensed that something was unravelling in a weird way - all of this under awesome creation of uncertainty, that the fans paid for. The Barcelona fans went into delirium when in the 5th minute of injury time their team scored the winning goal - and the PSG fans waited for the team to arrive back home and the heat generated by the game led some supporters to damage the players cars.
Yet a simple weather report will see the same people paradoxically run for safety - stockpiling against the threat of bad weather disrupting their life - even though it is perfectly sunny outside and they have a nagging sense that the weather people can get prediction wrong.12/03/2017 #9 David B. GrinbergNice buzz, as always, Ali. My favorite probability models related to -- you guessed it -- space. My favorite is The Drake Equation which posits the number active advanced intelligence civilizations within our own Milky Way Galaxy (a range from a low of 1,000 to a high of 100,000,000. The antithesis of this model would be Fermi's Paradox (which can be disputed/argued per "Ancient Astronaut Theory" and UFO reporting starting from the dawn of human civilization to the present).
YOUR thoughts?12/03/2017 #8 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#7 Great thoughts dear @Sara Jacobovici. I appreciate your differences with me. Yes, local supporters can be of help. Yet; I have watched matches in which the supporters got so furious with the performance of their team and chanted for the opponent. What is assumed to be an asset turned into a liability. Despairing audience may turn their team into a bunch of runners.
As for the prediction Almanac- it is an astonishing example and I wonder if predictability gets better, same or less. It is a striking example of trying to predict the future.
In trying to predict, sometimes we increase unpredictability. Is the a behavior of complex systems? I need to think more.
Thank you Sara for provoking my mind with your astute feedback.12/03/2017 #7 Sara JacoboviciYour buzzes push at my mind to expand and make connections. Thank you @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. You write: "But football is a game and so is life." It fascinates me how we look to sports and games to understand ourselves and our world. Brilliant economists design games and Einstein was quoted as saying, "God does not play dice with the universe." Now that we can simulate the image of 2 black holes (before they merge), it looks like "bowling" may be the game of the universe. https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/LA/image/ligo20160211d
You write very powerfully: "We prison ourselves in determinism." Although your statement reminds me of what can happen when we take our need to predict to its negative side of the spectrum, it also reminded me of this: "The original Farmer's Almanac founded in 1792, Old Farmer's Almanac is a reference book that contains weather forecasts, tide tables, planting charts, astronomical data, recipes, and articles on a number of topics, including gardening, sports, astronomy, and farming. The Almanac also features anecdotes and a section that predicts trends in fashion, food, home décor, technology, and living for the coming year. Released the first Tuesday in the September that precedes the year printed on its cover, The Old Farmer's Almanac has been published continuously since 1792, making it the oldest continuously published periodical in North America."
And finally, you write: "The closed clusters of supporters can't change the result of the match." As a sports fan with a firm belief in hometown advantage, I beg to differ with you ;-) Thanks for another provocative post Dr. Ali.12/03/2017 #6 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#3 Thank you for making such profound reflection @Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.12/03/2017 #4 Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee#1 You remind me @Harvey Lloyd of the weather forecast that about 20 years ago predicted the weather in Brazil would be unusually frosting. It turned out to be and the price of brazilian coffee beans shot up.
I fully concur with your lines "...Or am i a part of a much larger environment whereby i have to learn to be successful within"? Yes, I believe this is the better choice and you put your view firmly on ground with your sound explanations. I feel like saying we progressively live in a world of decreasing predictability.12/03/2017 #3 Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. Brand Ambassador beBee, Inc.inspiring @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee with much playroom for personal reflection, thank you for your creation!12/03/2017 #2 Mohammed A. JawadOftentimes, we cast off realities and carry on with our own ways; we sometimes take predictions to heart and come up with our own shuddering assumptions and stay behind with still hopes. Presumably, betwixt sheer conjectures and true happenings we miss matters of priorities with our vain miscalculations.12/03/2017 #1 Harvey LloydTwo questions or one concept comes to mind in reading your post this morning. Do i make my environment; Or am i a part of a much larger environment whereby i have to learn to be successful within?
How you answer the question determines your reliance of predictions. I have always thought that the latter was the question we needed to affirm. By assuming this answer we realize that we are all adrift inside a ever changing environment where we all experience the unpredictability together.
I like predictions weather and others. But reliance on any prediction is Russian roulette. Our ability to understand the biases in predictions gives us the foresight to read the unfolding events into our own evolving predictions.
Our weather here has become a off Broadway production. They seem to sell you the weather with great actors. Its great for the milk and egg industry locally. One mention of snow and the local groceries have a field day of sales.
- 21/02/2017Are Cyborgs In Our Future? 'Homo Deus' Author Thinks Sogpbnews.org The human species is about to change dramatically. That's the argument Yuval Noah Harari makes in his new book, Homo Deus: A Brief History of...
Comments11/03/2017 #13 Rahel Sivan#5 Dr. Hecht.: Thank you for fulfilling all of my fantasies. Now, armed with some fresh, new ideas, I will NEVER sleep, again.! Lol. I am only half teasing, too. This is the kind of thing I could spend the rest of my life looking into., and NEVER tire of looking. Thanks, again. Don't be surprised if I follow you forever! :)23/02/2017 #12 Gerald Hecht#11 @Phillip Hubbell yeah; I think that what bothers me about some of these newer "thingies"...like the silicon/carbon merge ...and (even more) the application of crispr to make deme edits that become inheritable ("gene drive") is that (unlike the historical endeavor known as eugenics) for the first time in human history --socioeconomic disparities can (will) very quickly turn into a true "bloodline/breeding type, permanent, biological caste system."
The previous notions of that type of thing...were silly, and based on false assumptions --this isn't.23/02/2017 #11 Phillip HubbellBack in the dark ages, at the beginning of fax machines, protocol converters and basic data communications, we used to joke about how we had invented all this technology to give ourselves more leisure time but used the technology to order in sandwiches so we could work at our desks. Soon we will be sending the cyborgs out for sandwiches. We should only worry when they stop coming back.23/02/2017 #9 Gerald Hecht#7 @Devesh 🐝 Bhatt I think the safest rejoinder for me to offer up at this time is ...steal Neo's last line from the first "Matrix" (the only one --but that's a different discussion) : "I'm not here to tell you how this will end...I'm here to tell you how will begin...."23/02/2017 #6 Gerald Hecht#3 @Melissa Hefferman oh ...this stuff is WAY PAST THAT...
... IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD TIME TO BE ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED!!!
If you are still still curious about (it's already been opened anyway) this PANDORA'S BOX 3.0 --just Google around for things like "CRISPR" + "GERM CELL EDITING + GENE DRIVE.
WARNING ⚠️: Don't do this before bedtime (if you had actually planned on sleeping).23/02/2017 #5 Gerald Hecht#4 @CityVP 🐝 Manjit and wait until desktop crispr cut and paste germ line editing is available for Windows...THE DAY WHEN DESKTOP (EASILY HACKABLE) GENE DRIVES replace METH LABS in mobile homes in a neighborhood near you and near me...Then it's more like the original (1960's) Star Trek episode of "Khan"...
... (although Ricardo Montelban [sic] was awesome in that)23/02/2017 #4 CityVP 🐝 Manjit#3 I am having the Hecht-7000 model transplanted into my brain when I am 80 years old, so for me as a cyborg this will be an improvement.
Unfortunately due to Louisiana being mostly under-water by the time Gerald reaches 80, only the cheaper Manjit-DX100's cyborg brains will be available in his region, so when Gerald gets it he will have to say goodbye to his far superior organic one.
Unfortunately neither of us will be able to afford the Javier-Super7, we can barely afford an i-Phone7 now never mind contemplating that one.