Introvert or Extrovert- which is better?
We are living in the age of increased tension. This is manifested in many facets of our lives such as:
· Less time
· Less employee loyalty
· Less employee engagement
· Less passion for work and increased turnover rates
· Leadership of control and more control and less room for creativity
· Less tolerance
· Less owning of a technology and more throw-away of fairly recent products to buy new ones
· Less stability at work
· Less ‘durable” marriages and increased cases of divorce that exceeded marriages in few countries.
· Less focusing and increased interruptions
Increased tension brings us nearer to the bifurcation point and we find ourselves progressively moving towards more bifurcation that eventually leads to chaos.
Which path to take among the available ones? The “tension of choice” is increasing at an alarming rate. Not only that, but also the “tension of unpredictability” is also increasing.
In these turbulent circumstances- would it be better to be an extrovert or introvert? What brought this question and even the idea of this buzz is the extraordinary quality of comments exchanged on a previous buzz of mine between the brainy Harvey Lloyd and Louise Smith. In one of her comments Louise wrote:
5 Myths
1.Extroverts get energy from social interaction while introverts get energy from privately reflecting on their thoughts and feelings.
2. Introverts are plagued by public speaking anxiety
3. Extroverts are better leaders than introverts
4. Extroverts are better networkers than introverts
5. Extroverts are better salespeople than introverts
Louise cited the link for further elaboration:
https://www.quietrev.com/5-myths-about-introverts-and-extroverts/
The above comment came as a response to an earlier comment by Harvey in an answer to a question I addressed to him. Harvey wrote “Introverts focus their energy in the subsystems of social activities, seeing the people, relationships and the story behind the story. Extroverts focus their energy on the next thing or activity while working in groups. The details of the group are not typically thought of by extroverts, they see the whole and its journey. Introverts expel energy within the activities while extroverts get energy from the activities”. Harvey is stating that introverts are exothermic whereas extroverts are endothermic. This is a paradox which I haven’t thought of before. Introverts release energy to the environment. Self-organizing reactions get energy from the environment to release it. Do we need more introverts so that our chaotic lives may self-organize?
A new thinking is emerging. Hearing the word introvert might give the false feelings of passiveness. If all people were extroverts and take energy from the environment then introverts are the balancing factor by releasing energy to the environment.
May be the answer is not being an introvert or extrovert- more it is being both by bifurcating from one to the other as situations unfold. It is being BOTH extrovert and introvert. This reminds me of using the left mind (logical mind) or the right mind (creative mind). Why not both?
I shall enjoy your comments on above issues.
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Fay Vietmeier My good friend- I have the same issue with the home button. That little house-like icon. I want to scroll for fear I am missing a grand post, but there are now few of them.
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Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I will confess my dear Professor that I rarely look at "Discover" ... so if there are ads this bee has no interest ;~) ... in one way a genuine post should shine ... stand out from That is my hope ... "if you build it ... they will come" ~ the field of dreams ... non-professional ... self-promotion posts reflect poorly on the writer posting them and on this platform for allowing it
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منذ 3 سنوات #259
Fay Vietmeier You don't give up my friend. I adore your persistence. With honesty I say that I was glad that I couldn't publish! So many ads were then published that I felt embarrassed to publish on this platform. One good post and twenty ads. I am not sure this is not a good estimate.. Let us hope for better things to come.
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Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee ... I swear ;~) the devil plays with us in ways that are unique ... to each Try with text only to temporarily publish ... ... then use the edit button to add in the images I'll still look for you on LI my dear Professor ;~)
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #257
Dear Fay Vietmeier Many thanks for commenting and for your reference. My dear friend- I managed as per your suggestion to add one image to my post this noon. It worked. Then as everything was ready I pushed the publish button. It doesn't click. I tried in vain for few times. No success!!!I ended up publishing on LinkedIn.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 3 سنوات #256
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I'm glad what I suggested worked ... my dear Professor Reinforces your recent posts about "simplicity" ;~) I shall look for your post on beBee later today ... I have appointments first and Your LI post on Truth "Is Truth Difficult to find?" ... have had it pulled up for awhile ... along with Edward Lewellen post "How we decide what Truth is" ... I have had lengthy comments regarding "Truth" recently with Steve Anthony on LI (speed&motion/"Being Tuned")
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #255
Fay Vietmeier Again, I agree with you. These irrelevant comments are excessive luggage and I wish we could unload them (delete them). I wish Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR would enable writer bees to delete such comments.
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #254
Dear Fay Vietmeier I tried copy and paste instead of insert and it worked. You are amazing. I shall share a post tomorrow on beBee. It asks a question why governments keep procedures comples such as filling tax forms? Why many businesses prefer complexity over simplicity and even chaos over simplicity? The answer to both questions is the same. I hope that the copy and paste shall work tomorrow and not fail me again like the insert did.
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #253
Fay Vietmeier Thank you and you are a source of inspiration for me and sure for many others as well. I normally post by linking the image to beBee. Now, I shall try to see if copy and paste shall do. I am going to try now. Thank you for your concern my good friend. You are absolutely caring.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 3 سنوات #252
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee You are most welcome on the share ;~) As I type, I notice the number of comments ... 300 While I've been on beBee (about a year now) ... thought reaching 100 was good ... drives home decreased engagement Anyway, we must always do the best we can with what we have ... this is a LIFE principle Note my comment to the spell caster below ;~) ... one of the many bee-predators and bee-promoters I share your frustration about the challenges you are experiencing with beBee ... presume this relates to images? Have you tried copying the images 1 at a time ? (this is what I do) Can't (for example) ... if working from a Word document (which I do) ... select "all" ... then copy to beBee ... I copy the images within the text ... one at a time ... where they belong ... review ... then publish I think I'm both: exothermic or endothermic How about you mt dear Professor?
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 3 سنوات #251
Ann Earnis Dear Ann ... this is not the appropriate place to share the casting of "spells" I'm glad you "got your husband back" .. but if was was by a spell cast ... how long will that last? You are unknowingly cooperating with dark forces "casting spells" is witchcraft ... I would encourage you to come into the Light “Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise. Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” ~ Ephesians 5 ~ ... We choose darkness or light ...
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #250
Fay Vietmeier My dear friend- I greatly appreciate your beautiful reshare of the post. Thank you
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #249
Fay Vietmeier Oh dear- you remind me of one of my commented on posts. Yes, Harvey Lloyd is a great thinker. I am glad you highlighted his comment. I tried to publish a post today on beBee, but in vain. I published a brief of it on LinkedIn. It is about fractals. I plan to publish next week as a full post. To be natural is to be fractal. This is the theme.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 3 سنوات #248
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 3 سنوات #247
Ali Anani
منذ 3 سنوات #246
Deborah Levine Nothing pleases my heart as reading a comment like yours. If a post of mine maybe of help to you or others than I am genuinely satisfied. I deeply thank you for sharing your feeling post to your reading this article.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #245
Appreciate your feedback and I am happy with the work you do as outlined in your link. Keep healthy.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #244
I agree and I add it is better to be both
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #243
My pleasure Luke Visser Chappaqua
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #242
So nice dear Bill to remind me of the buzz that ranks No. 2 in number of comments among my more than 260 buzzes for beBee.
Bill Stankiewicz
منذ 4 سنوات #241
Bill Stankiewicz
منذ 4 سنوات #240
great job on e book too
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #239
Absolutely correct. This is the reason I added the chaotic bifurcation image in the buzz.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #238
Great point Preston \ud83d\udc1d Vander Ven- it is not always better to be one; more is to be both as needed. Good point
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #237
My genuine pleasure Pepper Rutland. Your comment is special one for me because it is the first from you and it reminds me of a buzz that I wrote a while ago and I enjoyed tremendously writing it.
Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #236
That is very kind of you Jennifer. I shall read the book and give my feedback very soon. I appreciate your kind words and faith.
Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #235
Thank you dear Jennifer Leach-Trask. Could you please provide the link to your e-book?
Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #234
Thank you Larry Boyer, \ud83d\udc1d Brand Ambassador. I am encouraged by your comment to re-discuss this topic again taking into consideration the valuable comments here. I also appreciate your sharing the buzz.
Larry Boyer
منذ 5 سنوات #233
Larry Boyer
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Larry Boyer
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Harvey Lloyd
منذ 5 سنوات #230
#265. The archetypal intro/extrovert in very basic terms describes where you draw energy. Introverts draw energy from deep thinking and understanding. Where extroverts gather energy from social settings where ideas are openly discussed Both are each if they have balance. But for me introvert long discussions in large groups drains me. Where my wife is only getting warmed up at hour four. Take some time and look up he two from the Myers Briggs perspective For me it helped me a lot my time more effectively. Also it helped in who should direct the situations.
Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #229
I add my voice to yours
Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #228
It is an amazing coincidence that the comment of Jerry Fletcher coined in her comment on that buzz the term negative love. That brought in some very interesting comments. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/coming-out-stronger So, Anti-vert is a challenging term. I invite Harvey Lloyd to comment on this for he made great comments here.
Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #227
Great point Lyon Brave
🐝 Fatima G. Williams
منذ 5 سنوات #226
cc Federico \ud83d\udc1d \u00c1lvarez San Mart\u00edn Can you tell me how I can view the rest of the 200 plus comments I don't see them below. Is there a way for one to download an article they produced with all the comments so such errors don't occur please advice!
Lyon Brave
منذ 6 سنوات #225
Joel Anderson
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Joel Anderson
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Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #222
balanced view
Lyon Brave
منذ 6 سنوات #221
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #220
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #219
thank you dear Randall Burns and it is great to read your comments again.
Randall Burns
منذ 6 سنوات #218
Randall Burns
منذ 6 سنوات #217
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #216
Thank you Paul \. you are correct. The discussions are in conformity with your comment. But it amazes me how simple questions may lead to so many discussions. Linking communication style with the purpose of a meeting, a customer or team member must be based on the understandings derived from your comment.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #215
"Over my lifetime I have now developed ways that I gain much energy being in my own company and with Nature and spend much time alone"- by Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee. My published buzz of today addressed the theme of your comment. It is amazing as if you read my mind. Be Natural is the theme and I believe the buzz addresses your comment even before you published it.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #214
Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee- the discussions here are in great conformity with your comment and mainly " along the introversion extroversion continuum". The discussions focussed greatly on the need to understand the style of communication and to appreciation the identity of all persons involved. I go along with your comment.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #213
so we have very close profiles Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. I am 51% E. Amazing
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #212
I love your engagement and the free flow of expressing your feelings towards others openly and honestly my dear Lisa Vanderburg. You are a great human.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #211
I am too touched by your words to see what I'm typing, most adorable Cyndi wilkins: just look at what your creation has allowed - take comfort and praise from all your hard work! We are all so different, from so many different walks and phases of life, yet here - we are free to be companions and friends that will last! Gobsmacking, eh?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #210
how about intent plus purpose combined dear Lisa Vanderburg? You say faith and yes we need to include this as well.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #209
thank you Cyndi wilkins offer the magic formula.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #208
Amen brother ! Faith (not religion) is something....possibly the only thing I think can bring forth permanent and solid change!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #207
with all honesty I was hoping you would noin the discussions Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. I am so glad you did. I am like you mixed. You may do an online test if you wish.I gave the link in one of my recent comments. I am so happy to say that the discussions are ao rich that I am tempted to write a buzz on this buzz.
Cyndi wilkins
منذ 6 سنوات #206
I think Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, what you do for others as a result of your experience with your husband is a testament to a woman of enormous strength and and an endless capacity to love;-)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #205
you do what you say and very truthfully Harvey Lloyd. Look how you carry discussions forward. You are amazing.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #204
It is comments from the initiator of beBee that fuel us. Thank you Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. No other platform gives attention to the bees as much as beBee. My devotion to beBee is unquestionable my friend. I have not written for any other platform since joining beBee. The truth is that beBee is the one who is irreplaceable. Together we move forward. I am totally touched by your kind words. My gratitude also extends to all bees who turned this buzz into minfdul discussions.
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
منذ 6 سنوات #203
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #202
It has been stated that the formula really applied to infinity, but the word had not been coined yet. I believe the context is we should look for ways to open dialogue and not always throw up the stop sign. It is not to say the stop sign should go away, but rather reserve the sign for when it's appropriate.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #201
nust wonder my good friendwhy seventy times seven. Why not 55 five times five? Why these numbers- well zi remembered the cigarette brand Yes I am like you I could go maximum of five times but then...
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #200
This is the attitude we speak of as we try and understand our own profiles. You are a good man. I believe i read a book, a bestseller of all time that referenced we should forgive seventy times seven. I am good for three or four, but i tend to strain the system after that:) Nobody's perfect i guess.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #199
that is a positive signal Harvey Lloyd. To express themselves without asking them means they may be ready to change. I don't mind giving them a third chance in this case.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #198
Given our gift for the auto response can wisdom dictate we give them a second chance by not sharing our own? Many new relationships have formed because i gave someone a second chance of expressing themselves. Not sure if i triggered but certainly gave the opportunity to see me differently.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #197
so you triggered them to change from within Harvey Lloyd. You convinced them and it eas their decision to change. Do you agree?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #196
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #195
extrrnal forces bring transitory changes dear Lisa Vanderburg. Afterwards revert to type. Unlike changes from within. They stsy for long.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #194
When we think no one cares we develop a pov that we exact on others. So in our travels throughout life when someone acts this scenario out, we can call poor customer service, or we can let them know we care. I always enjoyed managers that did reviews or interventions from the perspective of witnessed poor performance. I handled a few for them in the hopes to inspire them to empower our employees, some got it some didn't. I always engaged in these setting with discussions about our values, goals and roles. Then asked the individual how they felt they fit and their performance to date. Some were rougher on themselves, some thought they were perfect. I would alway return with what are some areas you would like to tell me about at our next meeting that you have improved. I would get the feedback set up meetings that helped them achieve that goal. They left fired or empowered. No in-between. My managers had a hard time breaking from the traditional professional seek and destroy and motivation by fear. This required a POV that everyone is worthy of the opportunity of my faith in them. I could not give it if i communicated fear.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #193
For me i find it difficult to find character change through what man presents. Bias is ever present. That being said i would say that a faith journey offers a way to change our life patterns. The term external force is confusing. Life is moving between external forces in one context and in another life can find external forces of change. If you seek change though, leave no stone unturned. Seek and ye shall find.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #192
Makes sense...I can agree with that. So your saying basically that you adapt your POV depending on circumstances; a transient sniffing of the air, if you will. Do it myself (but not as well as you, I suspect!). Now in #219 Ali says, 'We shall not change unless we change ourselves. No external force can do that.' Is that all encompassing? Is that 'true'...for all of us? I'm not sure. Look at 'prison faith-conversions'. Not all of those are fake - makes sense that a lot are real changes. It is an external force that wrought change, aided albeit by actions of our own making. Of course, I'm now leaning far outside the boundaries of I & E......
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #191
We can adapt with fear to the shark or fish. Or get the grill ready. This is the choice.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #190
I believe we are able to meet challenges on the river of life in one of two ways. Adapt our profile to the change or adapt the change to our profile. One involves the review of change and determining where you fit and executing, the latter is forcing the change to go by your rock. Our character can evolve but our response to situations can change with merely acquiring a new POV. My character is the same but my response has changed. You enter an establishment with a purpose. The sales person looks at you like you just crawled out from under a rock and says may i help you? Now my auto response is to educate the person on the finer points of sales and how they must have missed the class. But lets look at this with a perspective instead of auto response system. 1.The clerk has just left the boss's office and has lost insurance. 2.They are sick and had to come to work because they are hourly. 3. They just got grades for how to be an ass class and they failed. Give these three potential POVs does it change how you would respond? For me it does. I can't know the right one without speaking first to what i saw and seeking understanding. My opening comment in this scenario would be "rough day today"? The next answer should give me what i need to act on the right POV. None your _____business would reinforce my auto response system. But just maybe i could get them to see the error of their salutation.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #189
dear @li!a v I am giving you a short answer because I believe firmly in it. We shall not change unless we change ourselves. No external force can do that.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #188
Yessir...you are right, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee below may address some of that. So, a question for you my friend: do/can we instinctively wrought change in order to change ourselves, or is it just random. So are able to 'change their minds' with a solid and long-living ability, most are not so successful. I used to think I could do/be anything; I know different now. Love to hear from Harvey Lloyd about that too...?
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #187
Thanks delightful friend Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich; your candor is disarming...it gives me pause. It makes me think deeper of how our 'view' can gradually (or quickly in rare circumstances) can lose it's hue over time and experience. I think some of us wrestle with ourselves - certainly, I do, almost all the time. Trying to contain the very dilemma of one's own life within the text of I or E or DiSC for that matter, is impossible. As a HSP (which frankly, I feel I should be, but ain't), what would life be like say, 100 years ago? Even 50. Has the www. 'enabled' some freedom for both I's & E's equally? I suspect no. Does it even have a bearing here? Web aside, I know that the 'closing of many gates' personally will lead to loneliness eventually. I suspect my 'behavior' will too. Worse, I can see me becoming as complicated, overbearing, insufferable (at worst-case) in my dotage. I hope not, but how much choice do we really have.... Great mind you have there, lady Deb!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #186
may be a fish or a shark? The experience and challenges shall be different.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #185
our perspective changes as well. Is there any real change without chaning thinking? Our thoughts lead to our actions. Now the question is how deep the change is? Going back to your previous comment Lisa Vanderburg your eye balls are the same , but now you use them (action) for different purposes. A mi right?
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #184
Good point Harvey Lloyd! What's in the water with us...that changes over time...scary..
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #183
unfortunately we got connected.too late. Fourty years ago would have been a different story Lisa Vanderburg. I doubt if I could have run away from your eyes. To admire is to stand for what one admires.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #182
#204 Yeah...funny that, John: why did ours say I and others say E? Curious....
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #181
Perhaps the question is, 'what changes?' Expect the answer is life and longevity. If you lose a limb, that will effect things for a while - 2 limbs, a lot longer, etc. But that's just physical stuff. Rolling over the psychological as well as the physiological...the possibilities are endless, no?
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #180
First of all, I absolutely promise not to burn you with my eye-balls Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee - EVER. That said, I understand fully that if...say, dogs smell fear, humans do too (at some base level), so as a small child I decided to fear nothing. This worked for at least 40 years. Now I do the eye-ball thing just to stop complete strangers from running across the street to tell me their life-stories. I've always attracted them. More irritatingly, they always go away happy! Tsk!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #179
I agree without any reservation. Thank you Harvey Lloyd
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #178
Time is the water upon what we sit. We may not move but it does. So yes change is coming whether you wish it or not. Accepting the challenge that life is fluid changes how we approach the unknown. When we feel life is unfair and we can't keep up then the fluid dynamics works against us.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #177
you hit the "targrt". You scored
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #176
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #175
I am sorry John Rylance. I stored your result in my mind as 24% I and not E. I am so sorry.
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #174
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #173
This is an interesting point Harvey Lloyd "The idea is not to change but rather engage on this river we cant stop more effectively". But if we engage we might change. Is this true? So, change is coming any way.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #172
I wonder John Rylance have few things in common. Lisa is 28% I and you 24% I. Would close Is (eyes meaning introverts and not physical eyes) have few things in common?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #171
I wonder if any body has taken the test over the years and tell us how his test changed. You know Lisa Vanderburg we may this way have an idea about people and how they changed. if people change, the results would then at least partially reflect where they changed. I have noticed some of my colleagues who were extrovert, but then "the wisdom of life" changed them to introverts.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #170
Your say you are 28% I and so you are more of an E. I think this is reflected in your desired answer " 'I ALWAYS made eye contact to recognise friend or foe. If foe, I'll set fire to them.' You make eye contacts first and so you are observant. However; observation is followed by action and this is the E part of you. Your writing style is also consistent with these observations. I tend to find your test reliable. I feel you are looking me in the eyes dear Lisa Vanderburg. Ready to wear my safety glasses!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #169
Did you do the test Harvey Lloyd? I agree it's all down the river - fluidity. If I had taken that test in say, my twenties, the results would have been quite different - same with every other decade. There again; ALL my doctors say I'm crazy :)
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #168
LMAO at that test... I got: 28% introvert! But the range of answers were too narrow for me. Like this one: 'How does making eye contact makes you feel?' I had to answer 'really nice - I like to smile at people.' What I really wanted to answer was 'I ALWAYS made eye contact to recognise friend or foe. If foe, I'll set fire to them.'
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #167
Love the link Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich...but what about 'surf n' turf'? :) I totally get your drift and I can see where your coming from; particularly relating to the world of sales! I couldn't do it either, it would take more that a big fat E to allow me to be successful in that field. I'm musing....maybe because my I and E have altered over the years, that could be a reflection of perception and not necessarily reality? You make me use my noodle....VERY good thing!
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #166
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #165
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #164
You and i share some commonality (introvert). But the reality of this post and thoughts surrounding DiSC. is the fact we must, will engage socially/professionally, in our efforts to provide food clothing shelter. If we could see life and time as a river and we float upon the surface. The river never stops moving. We will encounter life. The idea is not to change but rather engage on this river we cant stop more effectively. This was a tough lesson for me to learn. This did not fix everything but did help me find boundaries, directions and most importantly stop taking natural things personally. And...be able to separate natural developments from manipulated ones. By no means an exact science. But does help us get on the other side of crap happens.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #163
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #162
please do read the comments. If compiled they shall make a great document in bettering our understanding of human behavior. The fact your comments show is your engagement Melissa Hefferman. I am truly happy to observe this.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #161
thank you Melissa Hefferman. Believe me that my mind expanded because of these lovely discussions. ~ learnt by experience when to be an introvert by listening and thinking before opening my mouth.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #160
I did mention the same in some of my comments Melissa Hefferman. Adaptability is a key factor. I must add that the adaptability range lies within being very introvert to being very extrovert. This is the available swing range. Now in between those extremes we may adapt as needed. Rigidity is not the solution. I concur with you and I truly appreciate your comment.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #159
a gun with two eyes is better than a gun with one eye. I agree with you Tony Delorto. Yyou remind me of scissors as they only work in pairs.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #158
Back to you, darlin' Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich! I was intrigued by your answer here....takes me AGES to work out what or why. I think is was this: 'I physically cannot quickly jump to conclusions, I can feel the reluctance in my body.' I leave the essential and obvious (firefighters, police, ER staff) out of it - the 'immediate-action' ones. Do you think this dictates one's future course in life for a HSP? Is that a 'bent' like an E may be? We are all products of...whatever we're made of, but you are the most flexible person I know; even in 'reaction', it's with wisdom.
Tony Delorto
منذ 6 سنوات #157
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #156
Would lovee a summary kof the talk once finished with it.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #155
I'm only a few minutes into that Ted talks with Susan Cain, and I can't wait to hear the rest! That our institutions are designed for stimuli is then difficult for extroverts, yet that what we need! We very much need that time for introspection, and are rarely granted it as young'uns...that very pivotal juncture.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #154
@I am still bewildered by the quality of these comments my friend Lisa Vanderburg. I shall respond as soon as I have digested them fully.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #153
WOW and #151 WOW...again! I think you may have been granted the answers you seek Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #152
#146 John Rylance, this is a great point (sorry - been away a bit so I hope it's not out of context). No matter and I or E, you HAVE to listen if you want to understand anyone's POV. Those you listen best and leave gaps for the person to respond further, gain greater insight of the POV or problem.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #151
haha....I've seen those :)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #150
I suggest then that you read comment #102 by Edward Lewellen. I appreciate your openess.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #149
I challenge if this isn't the way? Complex life dictates that we learn by trial and error.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #148
yourvsimple and eloquent sanswers are amazing. Are youu mostly classified as introvert for your answerd are short, but thoughful ones?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #147
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #146
' the happy emotion chooses
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #145
for me you have nailed it dowm with a great maturity Yolanda \u00c1vila M\u00e1rquez. Bravo. Very valuable comment
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #144
agree; however it is also the reacting in due time. Procrastinating action or a premature one may have adverse effect. I believe having a sense for proper timing is important.
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #143
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #142
having followed these discussions thoroughly here I must say I am in full approval of your comment Yolanda \u00c1vila M\u00e1rquez. I am listening and being an introvert cabable of converting to an extrovert when necessary is very rewarding.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #141
this is an interesting comment John Rylance mentioned that she is almost an introvert exclusively. I wonder what Deb would comment. Please correct me if I am wrong.
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #140
#151 I agree with the I E continuum idea. Like the Autistic Continuum we are all at some point on the continuum. There are times when we are nearer one or other of the ends dependent on the situation we find ourselves, hopefully we react in the right way. Yes we will tend by nature to be more introverted than extroverted or vice versa. However being a believer that in this case there are no absolutes, none one is either a total introvert or a total extrovert.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #139
absolutely. I am thinking on how to amalgamate your comments Harvey Lloyd. I sense good ideas shall emerge. At work now, but shall do later this evening.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #138
if i combine this great comment dear Edward Lewellen #151. Then we have a great communication ideas emerging. Wow as we are truly making great advancements. I need to be an introvert and digest your comment fully my friend. Thank you for broadening our scope. We need you around.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #137
This is an awesome explanation of how we process differently. Very effectively you demonstrated these processing differences. The I and E is a macro look at these micro process. Knowing these differences can help us as leaders adjust our style of communications to be heard. Great stuff.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #136
great and I defer my comment till John Rylance has responded.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #135
I agree with your sentiments but would suggest that when we speak of such things as character, profiles or the I E continuum we must add context. To be objective as we possibly can within this discussion thread. The I E continuum is discussed inside our choice of style within communications that have a purpose. This has been well discussed under this and other posts presented by Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee so i won't elaborate here. But what may deserve some attention is the contextual part of speaking of I and E. Sociologically we look at these two differently than we do within the psychological context. We also extend the context as we look at the strengths and weaknesses of each, polarize if you will. For myself when i hear discussions about the character/personal profiles i think about journeys of understanding how to communicate effectively within your purpose. Now, for sure i hear some who wish to place competition within the stereotypes and this is not what i sense was being researched. Using these labels to better our communication styles is the context that is for the masses of young leaders who are honing their skills. The profile is not a professional diagnosis of psychotic features. Although the same labels are used to describe the individual with psychotic features. From sales, to family dynamics we have a purpose that we wish to communicate. I want to learn the most effective way to obtain my purpose. Higher sales, children ready to face the world or maybe just relaxing in the backyard with family and friends. Purpose is the reason to communicate more effectively.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #134
yes and I am in full agreement with you. Your comment deserves attention because it works and answers the why.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #133
you are very observant John Rylance. I find that when I leave space to the readers to add their comments I get far more comments than those buzzes with little room for the reader. Asking questions is a great way to do this. I may have not done it intentionally, but I understand better now why.
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #132
John Rylance
منذ 6 سنوات #131
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #130
thank you for your elaboration and confirmation Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris. These discussions taught me a lot. Sometimes I reffrain from responding till I gauge other replies and seek for more information. Soon I am publishing a buzz on the lessons I learnt from these discussions.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
منذ 6 سنوات #129
Indeed! I'd argue that communication would be impossible without some introverted behavior from both parties. Otherwise, you'd have a situation like a Greek debate show, where everyone talks at the same time and no-one listens to what other people say...
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #128
great insights Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris in which he liked acting introvert or extrovert should be done purposefully. I gave an example of negotiations. An introvert would observe, gather information, observe body language, pause and think. The purpose is to understand the position of the other side snd his intentions. Would you agree?
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
منذ 6 سنوات #127
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #126
great advice
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #125
Thanks for the link, Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich - I fall into the 'insensitive' category :) I owe you a much better response...so much to say! But I have to dash....back later, my friend!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #124
The good thing about the hashtag Kevin Baker is: I'm responding directly to you, so once this posts, your related comment will highlight of you hover your cursor over it - you'll see your own question. Saves an enormous amount of time trying to locate to whom your conversing with!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #123
but your comments show you are thinking hard dear Lisa Vanderburg. I am certain that you read all the comments.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #122
thanks. The introvert part of you is reading and digesting the comments Louise Smith. I shall not be surprised to read thorough comments from you soon.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #121
Well howdy there Louise Smith thought-tank :) My head would explode if I had to think that hard! You're a love!!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #120
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #119
the issue is not with you but with the system. I draw the attention of this issue to Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #118
#122 #122 #123 #124 #125 #126 Again reply to a comment brings replies to earlier commentd. Dear Tausif Mundrawala- yes and I agree. Just think how often you walk into a lift and you see stern people who eye you with anger sometimes because you interrupted their journey. They make you feel unwanted. This observation will call for actions different thsn if you were felt welcome. We need first to probe the situatio6n no matter if we are E or I. Some people if they walk in the lift and find an important person inside will try to talk to him because they know their time limited to seconds. Either they talk or lose the opportunity. An I would not bother as an E would.
Louise Smith
منذ 6 سنوات #117
Cheeky !
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #116
#122 #122 #123 #124 #125 I don't know why clicking reply brings so many comments numbers and not only the one I am rresponding to. Thank you my friend Edward Lewellen. I fully understand your clarifications. I need thojugh further clarifications. Do you consider a person who responds without observing or listening as an extrovert? What value this person adds? I believe now that both I and E share the same starting point. It is what happens next that makes the difference. An I will take longer times to respond or till requested to respond. An E is ready to ready to respond much sooner. In negotiations and to understand the intentionss an I would be a great asset in the team. Would you agree my friend?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #115
Joanne Gardocki I add my voice to yours. Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee has broadened the scope of these discussions
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #114
I would respond to your comment Lisa Vanderburg. I am thinking of drawing a heatmap of all the opinions here. I think the discussions have been so illuminating.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #113
Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich- these great discussions are truly interesting. Whay you say observe first. Haste leads to misjudgement. Whether I or E this is valid. I don't differ with you at all. Where the difference occurs is what follows next. An I would not voice opinion till after or if asked. They give themselves enough pausing time to search and study all perceptions. An I would speak soon after listening. As for those people who are talkative and don't observe and listen are not truly E. They are interruptors and use their energy in chaos. I often write as I did before responding to Edward Lewellen some breathing time to think. Iam I in these cases, but with shorter silence times than in your case. The intensity of my I color is less than yours.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #112
Kevin Baker- very interedting comment is binding selection with perception Harvey Lloyd called for the linkage of I or E with purpose. On LI Xavier gave a simple example. For summary of meetings select I. For engaging the meeting select E. Yes, you have supporters. I agree with you that that it is not who is better; more it is who fits the perception or purpose.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #111
Wow....it's a powerful tool for you then Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich - I am not at all surprised, because you think deeply before you respond. This is not our of any hesitancy or ambivalence, but out of respect to the question and how your answer will serve it best. That separates you from most introverts; or am I possibly apportioning sense of self with introversion? I have so much more to say but must be a-bed or my leg will fall off :) Looking forward to more of your wisdom tomorrow, lovely friend!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #110
coming back to your comment dear friend Edward Lewellen after taking a pause period with myself. Studies say that the ratio of extroverts to introverts is in the range of 70%-50%. I don't know the reason why this range is rather wide. This is if we believe that introverts are not born, but are the results of life experiences. During my pause I focussed on kids who sprang in my head and who are devoid of significant life experiences being so young. Few names stood out. They all share same body language. They look with their eyes down when asked a question. They talk in low voice and give very brief answers. They hate open-ended questions. However; they are very gifted. They enjoy drawing and some of these are truly creative. They consume their energy in hobbies they enjoy. I am keen to read your response. I also address the same comment to Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #109
first I thank Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich. This is to acknowledge your comment for now. I wish to read the feedback on it. I have my own thoughts which I shall share in less than an hour.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #108
you are most welcome and thanks for sharing the link to your lovely poem having the same theme as this buzz dearvDebasish Majumder
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #107
famous for focusing our thoughtd- to this I say yes Lisa Vanderburg
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #106
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #105
Debasish Majumder
منذ 6 سنوات #104
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #103
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #102
Harvey Lloyd- for me your comment is a roadmap. It is so illuminating. It is a treasure. Leaders should all use this map. How to bifurcate between being an introvert and extrovert is greatly explained in your comment. More you answer the why, how and what to do and where to do it at the right time. You give a new meaning to DiSC profiles. I dare say that even though you wrote the comment you learned from it. That these discussions resulted in such a great comment honors us all. This is the comment of the day.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #101
I believe as we start a journey of self discovery we need to see the graph and placement is personal. A personal perspective if you will. Given time to emerge from thinking about that placement we should look at others and see how they would fit on the graph. Placing others allows us to form a perspective. Not good or bad. But for the first time we get to evaluate our environment from our own perspective and now with speculation of others. The third step is to try and see a event, situation or "Dilemma" from the others position. Again we are still in the introspective mode. We have not said a word. In the end what we are attempting to do is connect feelings and emotions with our executive functioning part of the brain, and disconnect them from the current limbic auto response system. In working with folks i usually get negative feedback as they sense i am cutting them off from engagement. This is not the goal. The goal is to get them to expand their ability between stimulus response. If we tie to our executive functioning brain we can now add purpose to our engagement which is always the goal. If the limbic system responds then i can't add purpose until i have been satisfied within that system. Which i am not sure that satisfaction is ever achieved. Clearly though purpose is never forwarded.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #100
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #99
it is the both the quality and quantity my dear Lisa Vanderburg. Thank you and I shall be willing to share whatever is shareable with you. You are an outstanding person. I hope you would respond to the comment of Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #98
at least to have the energy to travel 33% more of the distance to collect the nutrions in your very valuable comment Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich. Thank you do m\ch for commenting and enriching these discussions as well as providing the link to a very important buzz.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #97
Honestly? Have no idea how you do all this...I can barely save a spider...that can take ALL DAY! But it's most interesting you say that you reckon you're 40 %intro & 60% extro. Not surprised that you know you own mind. If you find mine, I can be contacted at Web 8.90 where I keep my arachnids :) Well done, Ali! I'm up to my max: 26 comments to my latest, and here you are; over 100 again. If you ever need a brain-massage, I'll siphon off any detritus.... :)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #96
thank you Lisa Vanderburg. I voiced who I am and I hope you still be connected. Your sense of commenting with others show your combination of I and E Now you bring to my mind another issue. Do you recall my graph in a previous buzz linking I/E on the DiSC profile. I have new thoughts now on using these profiles. That you are both will place you on the graph quite differently from sombody who is very much tilted towards I or E. I wonder what Harvey Lloyd would comment.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #95
,efore reading your comment i posted my comment #98. I like so much your point of view linking E or I with purpose. I read my comment again after reading yours Harvey Lloyd and I surely agree with you. I am I when the purpose is imagination and coming up with creative ideas. I am E when it is socializing with the purpose to learn and exchange knowledge and experiences. Well-said my friend.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #94
Faith: pure, simple and intuitive. Most important; respect and love. It may have been a bumpy road (certainly for me) these past couple of weeks, but now I'm seeing something that we all can equate to Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, me and Ralph are content!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #93
:))))
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #92
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #91
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #90
sorry for the typos in my previous comment such as misspelling nutritional.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #89
amazing your comment is dear Debasish Majumder. Today Lisa share a link that Deb shared before on exactly carbon dioxide. In one way this gas increases crop producrion because plants use this gas in photosynthesis. On the other side this is on the expense of nutrients such as iron. So we have more crops, but with less nutrional value. I hope Lisa would share the link with us here. I am using mobile and it is not easy to share the link myself. You are a great thinker my friend.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #88
he's under the desk with me...there's a really big spider called Ralph.....
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #87
We can not expose ourselves as I or E until we understand the purpose. Before purpose i am neither and both. I don't get to deep into my label except as it applies to purpose. If it is date night with the wife then it is E event and i know the purpose. If we are in a meeting i can bring the inside the wave view and lien on those who surf well to provide their perspective to the purpose. The surfer and the wave are inseparable. One has no purpose without the other. Good leaders will always answer your question, i am both. But as we look at young budding leaders we need to help in separating the two while explaining the symbiotic relationship between both. To allow the media to describe the two is travesty. E environments are where we sell products and services. Its not where we live.
Debasish Majumder
منذ 6 سنوات #86
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #85
you win Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. You are human and professional. Imean it by sayin human and not personal. For me as of now it is both human and professional
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
منذ 6 سنوات #84
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #83
how could I not enjoy beBee Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee may have different experiences and therefore differences shall emege. It is dealing with such differences in integrity, pride and passion to learn more that makes beBee a lively platform. On a personal level or on a professional level I say thank you beBee.
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
منذ 6 سنوات #82
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #81
it was an Indian thinker who wrote about the four cycles of society. Your thinking is close to him Harvey Lloyd. I shall deal with your comment in a buzz soon.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #80
You introduce a social understanding of a complex issue. I hope i can venture off the path of current discussions to comment here. Society and religion have had a symbiotic relationship since the beginning of time. If not to explain science before we new or even to draw society back into moral alignment after the gasps of death from the Roman empire. Religion in its many forms has been called out when society has run amuck and discarded once we have found firmer ground. Unfortunately as we go through these cycles, man, not religion hold onto power pieces of moral authority. Then comes the splinter groups who wish to crusade for the oppressed. Then we have Rome all over again. A challenging cycle that it appears we humans are destined to repeat. I would propose that Religion offers us a moral authority that is equal to all. The interpretations should be appropriate and not include oppressive doctrines created by power brokers, on either side.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #79
as much as I am aware how busy Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #78
your assuring comment relieved me. Thank you Cyndi Docy
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #77
thank you Joanne Gardocki. Not in my dreams I expected this buzz would draw such great comments. I am sure you shall enjoy readinh them as much as I enjoyed reading yours.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #76
but where are you "crawling now" Harvey Lloyd? You broaden the discussions too. You have a great experience on how best that introverts ane extroverts communicate with each other. I wish you would elaborate more as we all need your experiences.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #75
I believe that in some professional journeys, Coaching, consulting and professional writing beBee has a place where the whole person can exist. I also believe personal and professional don't mix well. A customer is counting on you to perform, any personal inputs that are to the contrary will be dealt with in the professional envelope. I have had an expression that has served me well throughout my small business journey. You don't poo where you eat. My customer needs what they need, my personal beliefs, journeys or understandings are not necessary for them to form an opinion. Some customers the professional and personal bonds develop. But this has to happen naturally. I believe some of the struggle with a social media site that wants to envelop the whole human experience will have to deal with conflicting views that get presented within your posts, the ability to limit viewing of various posts to a limited group with no sharing, Groups that have the ability to pre-approve posts and in essence the ability to separate posts intended for a few from the many. But this defeats the purpose. It is an experiment that i have enjoyed participating. But mine is all personal engagement.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #74
keep your fingers crossed dear -Lisa Vanderburg (if you still have them). You are a great spirit. Thank you
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #73
I have always liked to consider that the two labels have two energy needs. One private and one public. But either participates in the others activities. If you watched me you would say i have both. But what i prefer is quiet time to contemplate the the E events of the day. For me the point of discussion is our preferenced should not be inferred on others during engagement. My favorite is when E tells me, hey come on to the party and this will all blow over. I think not. The opposite is true of E's I's shouldn't invite them to their sofa of discovery, they need people around as they crawl through some events life has dealt. They want to engage and hear what others think. You have broaden the discussion.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #72
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #71
watch out for what surprise I have for you under thr desk. It shall etch your fingers so that you me hear me say you are a unique person my friend.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #70
I blieve my response to the comment of Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. Yes, no problem in venting out our concerns to be dealt with honesty.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #69
ai could not hide a concern trelating to beBee from you Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. You highlight a hugely important point. Like we can be both introverts and exoverts; likewise we can be both personal and professional. I love this idea because I don't like separation thinking being this or that. Ythis is an issue that deems our attention
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #68
Can hear you....got my fingers in my ears and I'm hiding under my desk....... :)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #67
swe have great success story and with the strong will we can be both introvert and extrovert. Thsnk you Lisa Vanderburg for sharing your experience.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #66
I could not respond better than you did dear Lisa Vanderburg. Thank you for sharing your beautiful mind.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #65
Well said Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #64
Even though it may seems we're going off-point with Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt brave statements, I know Ali, that you will respect and welcome it, for it's the nature (and intent, methinks) of this buzz: finding the change we need in our selves and collectively. Addressing my friend Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt, I think personal branding is perfectly valid if that's the true basis and creed by which they work or 'tick'. But there are too many on all these ilk of platform to all have an authentic brand. It's caused trouble by assumption,between the alleged have and have-not's. But I also thing that Bebee is stronger than it was a weak to two back, because skirmishes have made us grow, and more importantly, the management have stepped up not to 'remove' but to openly comment....finally! That said, it could be because I has a bawl-fest :)
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
منذ 6 سنوات #63
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee To be honest, I don't see any issue. On beBee you can be personal , professional or both. With an integrated personal and professional profile, you can connect with people based on shared hobbies, passions or interests. Not only does this help start the conversation, you may also find you develop a stronger, more successful business relationships by being able to bond over something outside of office talk. Every bee is free to be personal or professional or both. I always tell everybody " Don’t confuse “personal” with “private”. If we share any passion is NOT private, is something personal that can help me to connect deeper. .......because we found common interests and passions, which build rapport and deeper connection. Your are an amazing person! https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/you-are-an-amazing-person-eres-una-persona-increible
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #62
Ballsy, Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt...I admire you all the more for it!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #61
Not answering the question you address to Ali, Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt, but I'm like you, 'definitely both, an introvert and an extrovert depending on the circumstance and situation I find myself in.' As a kid I thought I was a figment of the imaginings of others, which meant I was invisible...yay! I crept out of the house barefoot and went walkabout for hours in the dark; no one knew. For me, that was a deliberate rebellion against what I thought life would have in store for me. Been a rebel forever. I suspect you and me are the albatross :)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #60
This is a serious issue Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt to respond. Are you referring to personal branding? I am keen to know from you.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #59
Wow, Debasish Majumder brought to attention yesterday: https://goo.gl/dPhjf4 That should further muck things up! Like the waves 'intensity of vibrations determine[s] our behavioral pattern', it is another much needed factor. Ultimately, you called it: to be rigid is to die to life. Thank you so much for your contribution, my friend!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #58
Thank you Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt, as you mentioned, is an example of those people. We may change the ratio between being an introvert to being extrovert. The question is to what degree. If I claim I have the answer I shall not be telling the truth.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #57
Great that you helped yourself to be both Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt. This is an astonishing achievement. Birfurcation happens when tension reaches a high level and beyond the capacity of a system to hold. It is a long story. For now, I must think about your question. Tensions of limited resources could be a significant factor. Tension of high speculations could be another factor. Tension of increasing costs could be another source of tension. You must be having something worthy in your mind to ask this question. I don't really have the data to answer your question. Do you feel the tension in general is growing? This is an issue if it is.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #56
I beg Lisa Vanderburg. I remind you of the link you sent for me today and its relevance to this comment.
Debasish Majumder
منذ 6 سنوات #55
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #54
We talk about risk tolerance level. Isn't it time to talk about Differences Tolerant Levels? When we accept people the way they are towards making better insights ion life then we shall all be in smiles (hopefully). Thank you Glenn Melcher and I am so happy that the comments on this buzz are the proof your comment is sound and truthful.
Glenn Melcher
منذ 6 سنوات #53
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #52
I add my voice to yours Lisa Vanderburg.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #51
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #50
I have so many sides, I'm actually a big ol' rubber ball, lovely
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #49
Love that - 're-parent ourselves' is a great thought Cyndi wilkins! It is a topsy-turvy life we live....always having to 're-float'.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #48
You know how to expand on ideas darling. Imagination shall take us beyond limits. Now, you shall know what I mean. There are some fishermen trying to allude us and treat us as fish into their net. The story of the buzz thrown in waters is an evolving one. Thank you Lisa Vanderburg for you added depth to the waters.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #47
Thank you Cyndi wilkins and I greatly appreciate your comment. Imagine that the plants use all sunlight energy to make their food and this energy isn't released back to the environment not necessarily as heat energy, but also other forms of energy. What would happen. On the same level if introverts soak up all energy and don't release it what would happen? It is the give and take, be a receiver and donor, be extrovert and introvert or at least if you are totally one then you know the need to seek the thoughts of the others. This brings balance and order. Like make and female they produce when they are together and not separated. The opposites bring balance to our lives. Crazy yes, but this is the fact.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #46
Exactly! The author creates an body of water that with which he wishes to make an living, thriving ocean. but must be mindful of all the components needed for life to evolve and sustain (as you mentioned in #36). Once the pH is about 8.1ish and the alkalinity of the water is correct, life will come (the commenters). Will they enrich your sea or pollute it? That is up to You - the buzzee, to remember the moon, gravity and all those other things.... :) My head's gone numb....
Liesbeth Leysen, MSc.
منذ 6 سنوات #45
so well said Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee thank you for that
Cyndi wilkins
منذ 6 سنوات #44
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #43
I love your sense " it is not a competition, being introvert or extravert"- indeed it is not. It is when we turn it into competition we dissipate our energy wastefully.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #42
I leave it to Harvey Lloyd being identified as "The Wallflower".
Liesbeth Leysen, MSc.
منذ 6 سنوات #41
Liesbeth Leysen, MSc.
منذ 6 سنوات #40
Liesbeth Leysen, MSc.
منذ 6 سنوات #39
well that is awesome to read Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, feels better than flowers!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #38
devote away, dude...LOVE the way you mind works!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #37
what...haha...okay, that helps!
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #36
The mind-stretcher and imagination-stretcher as well and surely I mean you Lisa Vanderburg. So, we have a great metaphor. I feel this buzz is thrown in an ocean with sharks, fishes, turbulent waters, algae and all sorts of diatoms living in it. The author makes the wave (writing the buzz) and by throwing it in the ocean what results would he/she expects? Can the author control or predict the outcome. There must be some sharks who makes the red ocean and there are the peaceful swimming species that create the blue ocean. WOW! Another mind-blowing possibilities.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #35
#27 Okay, so the extrovert's riding the wave, the introvert dives under the wave, political correctness is the shark. I bet the shark goes for the introvert first. Do we want to be what's expected of us or what we assume ourselves to be...I think now. The balance is in fluidity (without the blood and gore in the water :)).
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #34
Well-said Lisa Vanderburg- we may only adapt to the environment because it can change us, but we can't change it or predict it for more than short time spans.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #33
Bravo, wonderful CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit; not only because you're brilliant, but also because you understand the very forces that still shape us and (for the most part) and out of our control. OH, and I said so in my comment below...not as well though :)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #32
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #31
You too have magnets attached to your words dear Lisa Vanderburg. Your comment spurred a new idea for a buzz. What kind of magnets your words have? Are they perpetual magnets? What ironic characters get attached to your words? What is the strength of your "words magnets? What is the sustainability of your "words magnets"? How aligned are your "words magnets"? May be I devote a buzz on your magnetism!
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #30
I'm paraphrasing what I picked up in your brilliant comment Debasish Majumder; 'what are the forces that create an introvert, extrovert, hybrid, byvert or pendulum?' (me). Would that be a correct interpretations?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #29
Well Lisa Vanderburg has magnets attached to his feet and that he therefore shall not "Fall in Fall". What about summer times? He delivers his fruits.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #28
haha...both, always both Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee a wallfower...his feet are too small; he'll fall over :) He told me......
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #27
Harvey Lloyd- I love comments that keep me thinking. The energy inside a wave and the outside energy that keeps the wave moving. The potential energy of the introvert and the kinetic energy of the extroverts when they are aligned great movement keep going. Exactly like you converted your potential energy in moving my thoughts.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #26
We sometimes appreciate order when we end up in disorder CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. We tend to value what we have when we miss it. That me be the awakening we have because of the "political correctness". Is this the drive for us to try to go back to the "natural order within us"?
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #25
Harvey Lloyd. Thank you for such an eloquent way of expressing oit "An introvert sees the inside of the wave while the extrovert rides the wave. Which is more important? If the wave serves a purpose then both. If the wave serves no purpose then neither". That is another idea for a buzz.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 6 سنوات #24
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #23
An introvert sees the inside of the wave while the extrovert rides the wave. Which is more important? If the wave serves a purpose then both. If the wave serves no purpose then neither. You bring an excellent metaphor to the discussion. As humans we must serve with the energy that is needed. To bring heat to the ski slopes would not be desirable. I may not be able to ride the wave, but i can insure that the wave is sustainable so that those that do ride, can do it well.The heat for boiling water and the water that is boiled are two separate things but serve a single purpose according to how it it used in the end. Is the water better than the heat? If the water is to purify something then the heat is equal to the process. Great expansion of understanding Debasish Majumder
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #22
Thank you Debasish Majumder is a wave-reinforcer. I wonder if you are described as introvert or extrovert? If you say introvert I shall not be surprised. If you say extrovert I shall not be surprised too my friend. Your poems and buzzes show always concern for the poor people. Are you a hybrid of the two? Thank you so much for your sharing the buzz.
Debasish Majumder
منذ 6 سنوات #21
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #20
Surely i did. But the word fragrance in our house typically applies to our natural friend in the bovine world and its aromatic causings.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #19
Lovel these charts or the creator of them? In all cases I love your senses Lisa Vanderburg. Funny you are both... well, please tell us how this helped you in your life journey.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #18
You made me smile. SUrely, you know what I meant byb your perfume-like fragrance.
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #17
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #16
This fragrance I hope is of flowers and ocean salt and not of the bovine droppings as my wife sometimes refers to my musings🙃
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 6 سنوات #15
of introvert/extrovert, 'These words are amoral until we apply them as a reducing label or a choice within how to engage.' That's a brilliant redux Harvey Lloyd!
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #14
Well said with few words🗣
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #13
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #12
Great and so you a have a story to tell Pascal Derrien. Would love to hear your story and the bybrid mix of being extrovert and introvert. I am sure many shall enjoy reading it and surely I shall do.
Pascal Derrien
منذ 6 سنوات #11
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #10
Love your use of the word ambivert dear Laurent Boscherini. You are a wise man. Being on the extreme of one time is tensioning and far from equilibrium. It would be interesting to read comments from people labeled as extreme introverts or extroverts. Comments of both Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee reflect your thinking beautifully. . .
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #9
Absolutely and this is what I meant we need to be one at sometime and the other at other times. Or, at least to understand others even if they are different from us. So, being introvert by labeling you are the wallflower Harvey Lloyd. But I must add with high fragrance.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #8
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #7
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #6
There is a comment on this buzz on LI in which the commenter questioned our ability to be both. Your comment Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee is a perfect answer to his question. I agree with you and with the need to be both. SImple steps can help us a lot along the way. For our time though I wish to be more of an introvert than an extrovert.
Laurent Boscherini
منذ 6 سنوات #5
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #4
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #3
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
منذ 6 سنوات #2
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #1