Punishing the Innocent
We live in complex societies that are drifting towards chaos. In complex systems we have what we call “emergent causes” of complexity that produced drastic societal effects. Emergent means they weren’t predicted and emerged suddenly. We assume the causes and try to eliminate their effects only with the causes increasing because they weren’t addressed. The result is chaos of every person seeking his/her own well. The social structure is unstable and we need to self-organize our thinking into new structures. One example is punishment and the cure for it. The laws of punishment need to be addressed and the whole law system may need new thinking. Who is responsible for the misconducts is perplexing because factors interact and it is difficult to isolate s cause to cure it.
We are part of nature. What we find in plants and animals extends to humans. Why some plants are aggressive? Why some animals are overly aggressive? Why humans are showing increasing aggressive behaviors? Is there a common line of causes among them? It is the chemistry that controls the behavior that is disturbed by several factors that cause all species to develop aggressive behaviors.
Let me explain by examples.
It has been known for some time that, irrespective of the pathogen, the immune system uses common mechanisms of defense and clearance in plants, animals and humans.
Animal behaviors maybe affected by sensing the vibrations of incoming danger. For example, spiders feel the vibrations of a foreign species entering its web and become aggressive. Humans are indifferent. Humans have chemicals in their brains that sense the danger. A chemical known as serotonin helps human in building acceptable social behaviors and reducing aggression. So, what happens if we reduce this chemical in our brains? We shall notice a tendency in aggression. This is what we are doing humans in several ways including:
· Industrial Activities- production of chemicals from so many industrial activities that deteriorate the social health. These chemicals may act as endocrine disruptors. Endocrine is made up of glands that secrete hormones which act as regulators for cells and organs. Research indicates that endocrine disruptors are likely contributors to neurobehavioral deficits and disability, including autistic disorders. Toxic chemicals are found in household products. These chemicals affect our bodies and in turn affecting their behaviors. Are we the prey of our predating activities?
· Poor Diet may result in aggressive behaviors- recent research findings established that food maybe deprived from the serotonin because it is not produced in sufficient quantities because the food we take is poor or deprived of the components that produce this quieting-chemical. Our brains are affected by what we eat. Poor diet may result in aggressive behaviors. Yet; we rush to punish the aggressor while the causes remain intact. This is a losing battle and shall only lead to more aggression. WE deal with the effect, but not the possible emergent causes that resulted from the interactions of many factors.
· Senses Reasons- Yes, humans’ behaviors is affected by our senses. Chemosignals are chemicals that signal to our brains of something happening. This is a topic that aroused my attention upon reading “Fruit flies release a distinct chemical substance – an aggression pheromone – when provoked. In humans, personality traits related to aggression and dominance can be detected by smelling individual body odor, while competitive behavior has been seen to produce fear-inducing chemosignals”. Sometimes, our behaviors are influenced greatly by small volatile chemicals. We experience this when we see a child’s tears because these tears contain chemosignals.
· Environmental Factors- Children living in agricultural areas with poor health were found to have different levels of chemosignals in their brains than the fortunate kids who afforded to eat well
I want to say that human activities are affecting the chemicals in our brains. Big question remains- if an aggressor commits a crime and analysis established that because of deficiencies of certain chemicals in their bodies they became aggressive. Is it their fault? With children living in countries like Syria, Iran and Iraq and other countries exposed to so many chemicals that deteriorate the chemical balance of their brains combined with nasty smells and poor nutrition and increased stress are they going to be responsible for their acts when they grow up? Do we need to change our view to blame the innocent and leave the real aggressors?
Social capital is eroded because we punish the innocent.
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Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #56
WE all wish you the same dear Fay Vietmeier.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #55
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #54
Just look how people rush to stock not only food, but disinfectants that they disappeared from the market/ Yes, people need to find their balance. I add my voice to yours Lyon Brave
Lyon Brave
منذ 4 سنوات #53
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #52
Ali Anani
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Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #50
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #49
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
منذ 4 سنوات #48
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #47
Fay Vietmeier The paradox is that we pass what we call information regardless whether it is true, false, positive or negative or whatever. Worse, if information is based on false sources such as rumors. Worst, is that the longer we "export" wrong information from generation to generation. The longer we own them, the stronger we defend them. History is full of examples that people believed in something that turns out false and still we defend them. Generations may turn info into knowledge and these generations are blessed because they give the world knowledge and help the next generations.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #46
Great illumination dear Fay Vietmeier. Agreed.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #45
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Edward Lewellen (part 2) On “Time binding” this excellent point by Ralph E. Kenyon Jr Korzybski characterized mankind as a time-binding class of life because, he claimed, "knowledge" increased as an exponential rate though the use of language passing messages from generation to generation. (Manhood of Humanity, p.20, Science and Sanity, p. 364) Korzybski was flat wrong on this point. It is not "knowledge" that is passed from generation to generation but "information". "Knowledge" is the ability to use information, and that must be learned anew by members of each generation. "Information", however, does not differentiate between "good" and "bad", between "correct" and "wrong", between "true" and "false". In the context of time-binding and exponential growth, "information" includes misinformation, false theories, speculations, fiction, and anything that can be expressed in symbols. The exponential growth includes all the trash, wrong information, and everything else that has been expressed. It's possible to see individuals holding and using theories that have been disconfirmed, but continue to be passed from generation to generation. https://www.xenodochy.org/gs/timebind.html
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #44
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Edward Lewellen Edward~ What rich insight you offer As I read the thought that occurred to me is that “more is caught than taught” Seeing Social media as a “chemical” and the HUGE shift its application has brought to the world ... “Before the prevalence of Social Media, mankind had to go to great lengths to spread ideologies. When they did, people knew directly whom to attribute the ideologies, so there was responsibility and consequences for spreading ideologies.” ... “Time-binding” In its positive form, it just means that each successive generation learns from the previous generation and passes the learnings on to future generations. ... But it can be negative, as well. The hurts past generations have suffered are passed on to the current and future generations. The passing on of “hurts” from generation to generation makes me think of the “fractal state of humanity” (fractal from Latin “broken”) We are “broken” beings ... broken parents pass on to the next generation the same state of “brokenness” they were born into The Fractal State of Humanity https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/the-fractal-state-of-humanity-the-hidden-forces-at-work-for-you-against-you (part 1)
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #43
Again, I am in full agreement with your thoughts here my good friend Edward Lewellen What you say is in keeping with the butterfly effect. The 7% of people even though they are minority they may cause much than the even intended. This is because humans smell their "signals" and get worried and respond to their senses. Animals and plants are the same as they react when their pheromones secrete chemicals to alert the plant'animal to the possible coming danger. We humans react to bad news much more than we do to good news. This is the famous Negativity Bias in action. So, I am again agreeing with all your thoughts here.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #42
Dear friend Edward Lewellen So great to read a comment by you after a while. It is a worthy wait as you enrich these discussions with deep thoughts. The two main points in your comment are: "However, I also believe that what we are seeing in society today is the 'chemical' of Social Media" A second is what is called "Time Binding". I first read your second thought as "Time bonding and not binding". However; it is not a bad idea as the longer we believe in something for many reasons such as inheriting it we become bound to it and we feel we "Own" it and so we protect it. You reveal a hugely-important point in that those long-inherited thoughts are being eroded and whom defenders find their dominance eaten. There is an emerging social struggle. If those people with dominance start to lose dominance they maybe tempted to use force to defend their dominance. What comes after using force in repeating historical social cycles? It initiates the cycle of chaos and social-restructuring.The coming times are testing times. Great thoughts yours are my friend.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #41
Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador Thank you Franci ... I appreciate your expanding "good" If-when you have time I have posted a new poem: The Lines of Life"
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #40
Thank you dearMarisa Fonseca Diniz and your short comment states the sad situation we are in.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #39
Fay Vietmeier Your compass is right because it is directed in the right direction. I agree with your comments. Agrochemicals have their bad history such as the "perished" DDT. We eat agro products with chemical residues. We pollute the environment and intoxicate the agro products. We use fertilizers that have uranium. The examples are many. This issue is broad and Just my voice to yours. They all lead to the malnutrition of our minds.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #38
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #37
Fay Vietmeier I think your comment forms the basis for a great post on this topic. You have stated many great examples and I am sure you agree this topic merits more than one or two posts. Greed is growing with all the evils it brings along. I simply agree 100$ with you and every example you cited in your commanding comment.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #36
Fay Vietmeier My friend- you aren't going outside the line, but giving different examples that extend the domain of the post. My concern is yours. The household chemicals such as detergents and pesticides are "hiding criminals" as their chemicals may hurt our brains. There are enough researches who warn fro the excessive exposure to detergents and the like. Who get hurt mostly? It is the children because their brains haven't developed yet. The other examples you give such as aborted babies highlight the declining value of humans and punishing the innocent and leaving out the criminal. It is a very sad situation.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #35
Fay Vietmeier
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Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #33
Fay VietmeierThe moral compass is what you have that extends such spirituality in you.
Fay Vietmeier
منذ 4 سنوات #32
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #31
This issue I discussed in my post The Ponds in Our Mouths}. The pond of bacteria I meant. Your friend is right and I agree with him. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ponds-our-mouths-ali-anani-phd/
Cyndi wilkins
منذ 4 سنوات #30
Interesting you should mention that...I had a conversation with a 'pharmacist turned clinical nutritionist' friend of mine who alerted me to this as well. We throw off the balance of healthy bacteria in our mouths every day with the use of mouthwash...Something we presume as 'healthy and clean' can actually be contributing to ill health.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #29
That is right because individual societies are becoming chaotic and the efforts of combined and chaotic societies may bring more chaos. The individual society must be right before joining efforts with other societies.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #28
Perfectly well what you wrote "This is not the design of public service. The answer is and always be, allowing the local community to solve its own issues". Self-organizing community is the best solution. This is in agreement what I wrote in the post "The social structure is unstable and we need to self-organize our thinking into new structures". In complex systems on the edge of chaos this is the way to proceed.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #27
Thank you for the video link Cyndi wilkins. It is indeed fascinating. Your thoughts on the /gut/brain health is priceless. The two feedback to each other. The health of our brains is linked to the health of our guts. I wonder if the health of our mouth- a store house for millions of bacteria- is also linked to the health of our brains. What a delicate balance we live in.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 4 سنوات #26
#18 #21 When we look at the paradigms you suggest exist we can easily look upstream to attempt to find motivation. I believe almost across the board you can find a duality in design. Personal goals and public service. In capitalism this would be expected. But in public service it is a monster. A beast whereby each party to the solution is grappling for position at the table to feast on the power that comes with the solution. This is not the design of public service. The answer is and always be, allowing the local community to solve its own issues. Support the community, build a country. Support the country and build tyranny. In supporting the community though power is diverse and to spread out to take advantage of by brokers. Power likes to consolidate itself, its a natural underpinning of the human dynamic. But consolidated power in the wrong place hurts the community. I like the community aspect of government, you can actively participate. Its not without its own issues but the issues are owned by the community. Not far out of reach of Joe citizen.
Cyndi wilkins
منذ 4 سنوات #25
"What is a GOOD human? Can we reach a definition that is agreeable to all? This is the first step so that we may have a goal that is owned by all." This statement has jumped clear off the page and right into my consciousness...An excellent question! Perhaps we can take a closer look at what may be a major contributing factor in the creation of the 'malignant mindset'...to borrow a term from the resident neurosurgeon Ian Weinberg... More and more research keeps emerging on the 'gut/brain connection and its influence on our health. The neurotransmitters in our brains can be produced by the bacteria that resides in our 'gut'...Hence, restoring the health of the microbiome heavily influences the health of the brain. When the delicate balance of healthy bacteria in the gut is thrown off by poor eating habits and/or medications such as antibiotics, it manifests myriad 'mood disorders' that contribute to the aggressive behavior we see in those with mental illness. Many of these folks are misdiagnosed and medicated mercilessly, spawning all kinds serious mental/physical symptoms as a side effect. For a very 'unlucky lot'...there is also the possibility of a 'genetic pre-disposition'... .I found this interview with Professor Bill Sullivan of Indiana University School of Medicine fascinating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ofL0HvBME
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #24
Dear Jerry Fletcher- you aren't late to the party because I published this post hours ago. I like the paradoxes you mention. Indeed, humans are complex being and predicting their behaviors is like predicting weather. Maybe the predictions are correct for the next few days, but for longer times it is just accidental if our predictions prove right.
Jerry Fletcher
منذ 4 سنوات #23
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #22
And the balance between them
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #21
Absolutely, and this is a main message that I wished to communicate as spelled out in your great comment "that describe a society that needs to be "organized" are words that tell us some metaphysical propositions need to be fundamental". Your question is human and the answers you offer and the thoughts you present are what we need today. Back to a message by you is what is GOOD human? Can we reach a definition that is agreeable to all? This is the first step so that we may have a goal that is owned by all.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #20
All what I can say here dear Debasish Majumder replied to you in their comments.The paradox is that we think we achieve more by advancing technology, but in reality we achieve less as the poor are getting poorer. I thank you fr your support by re-sharing the post.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #19
This is a key point that I wished to highlight in this post as described well in your comment Harvey Lloyd. It is "With just a little thinking it never quite settles when we save one group by destroying another". This is consistent with what I wrote to you in a private message..
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #18
Many ideas as chemicals are have two faces- one face is good that may turn bad if exceeded beyond a limit. Our societies like here in the Middle East are living in fear for years. Fear of losing jobs, of escalating prices and taxes, of increasing poverty, of being killed by a bomb or rocket or even war chemicals, of being threatened by Corona and many more life-threatening conflicts. Not only Adrenaline, but also by a host of other chemical disorders that make people behave chaotically. ,
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #17
DEar Cyndi wilkins You grabbed my attention with your comment "and considered the very 'real' possibility that even after we leave this earth, we are all STILL responsible for our choices and the effect they've had on not only ourselves but also the environment". This is what I wished to convey in my previous reply to the comment of our friend Harvey Lloyd. I agree with you.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #16
"Again a paradoxical position that sanity would rule out the process. We have found the cure but it kills the patient reasoning seems so barbaric". In a society with big voids- and I mean in income,education levels, amusement, water quality or whatever is bound to break down. Big voids weaken the social structure and most policies make them even bigger. This is a paradox that amazes me in a negative way..Policy-makers keep saying they want to address the poverty of the big voids, but adopt policies that create an adverse effect. I believe one core reason is only thinking of the immediate effects and leaving out the mid-term ones. We treat the symptoms with over-doze that results in killing the patient.
Pascal Derrien
منذ 4 سنوات #15
Harvey Lloyd
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Debasish Majumder
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Harvey Lloyd
منذ 4 سنوات #12
Awesome concept, we have to clean up our own messes. This would reinstall the value of honor and integrity. I have witnessed Pandora's box on many occasions. I might have been the one that opened it:). It is an ugly box and once opened the destruction must take its course. I believe we are experiencing this phenomena in the US right now. I have watched folks on the same side of the isle decimate one another just to gain a vote. The honor and integrity paradigm has been cast aside in the name of "care". Pick your group. With just a little thinking it never quite settles when we save one group by destroying another. Each group has its problems that need to be sorted, but once Pandora's shows up everyone dies. But each group thinks they can wield the power. Pandora is your friend until the other half is dead. Then she splits the group in half again. This half life is short. Then once complete Pandora climbs back in the box until someone dares open it again. The 1st, 2nd and 5th amendments are under attack by Pandora. She is laying at the feet of many the power they can have in creating nirvana through reducing these basic understandings to useless.. Those with some historical understanding realize Pandora's presence. She will not get back in her box until some dramatic event occurs and draws folks into the clear and she is exposed.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 4 سنوات #11
Cyndi wilkins
منذ 4 سنوات #10
I love that you mention 'Pandora's Box' here Harvey Lloyd...All the ills of the world released when we lift that lid... Humans tend to explore 'physical reality' with a sense of fear...Of other Nations, races, religions and each other quite frankly. It would be interesting if we all embodied a more 'metaphysical mindset' of reality and considered the very 'real' possibility that even after we leave this earth, we are all STILL responsible for our choices and the effect they've had on not only ourselves but also the environment. Perhaps if we became acutely aware that we will be back to clean up the mess we've made, our choices would be vastly different.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 4 سنوات #9
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #8
had replied to your first comment before I read your second and powerful one. You caught my attention right from the first line "Much like the leader of a pack defending it's dominate role, traits of good and bad are all sidelined until they win or lose in holding their position". You remind me of animals who protect their territory and fight for their rights to be the only ones there. You wrote later "By weakness i mean those areas we tend to shy away from are all of a sudden forcefully placed in front of us and we lack any experience in managing these traits in ourselves. Our immediate response is kill (Metaphor) the cause of exposure". I am saying WOW because this part I left out from the post to keep it short. I was going to discuss the emerging and accelerating changes in our lives. Not only we fear being forced to change, but also changes that surprise us and emerge from nowhere. Such changes require calm thinking and this negates fearful minds. Emergent changes signal the onset of chaos and act as alarming signals. Either we get more scared by these signals, or we think calmly.and fast enough. I am intending to cover this issue in a post soon.
Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #7
Harvey Lloyd
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Harvey Lloyd
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Ali Anani
منذ 4 سنوات #4
The irony is that we create the issue and that search for irrelevant solutions. Thank you dear Mohammed Abdul Jawad for being first to comment.
Mohammed Abdul Jawad
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Ali Anani
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Ali Anani
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