Where to Place a Tie Pin?

Where to Place a Tie Pin?

During my lectures lately at the “Leadership Forum” in Istanbul a fellow lecturer asked me to replace my tie pin by suggesting a different place. His suggestion aroused me to find an answer to the title of this buzz. Some questions seem simple; they aren’t.

It is amazing how findings in science extend to where we should place a tie pin. The suggestion of my fellow reminded me of a similar question- where to place the dash of an F letter. What is the best place for the dash and why? You can see the dash almost in the middle of the F letter as WinWord suggests.

If we treat a tie pin as the dash in the tie, then is it best to place it in the middle? What science says?

In fact, the answer is simply no. We know from Fibonacci numbers and the resulting Golden ratio is that the most eye-appealing place should be in accordance with the Golden Ratio. It is best 0.38 and 0.62 (total of 1). The dash and tie pin accordingly should be placed at 0.38 or 0.62 from the top of the F letter and the tie pin.


                                  The original F and the modified F with the dash moved closer to the top

Which of the two Fs appear more appearing to the eye? It was interesting to Google for the term where to place the tie pin. One reference I found reads “The rule is simple: It goes between the third and fourth buttons of your dress shirt". So, the advice is to place the pin almost 0.62 from the top of the tie. I am not in fashions, but if I were a pin tie with the word leadership imprinted on it because I am lecturing on leadership and I want the pin to be visible. When I attach the buttons of my jacket during my lecture and socializing I want the word leadership to be apparent. For practical reasons I prefer to place the tie pin at 0.38 from the top of the tie because it shall always be exposed to the eyes.

The 0.38 Ratio is applied in buildings to give them a better aesthetic view. You can see this One example is the image below.


       Schematic Plant Diagrams, Human Body Diagram, Golden Angle Diagram, Fibonacci Spiral Diagram by Gillian Jose-Riz.

The interconnections between sciences is amazingly extensible to fashions and all facets of our lives.

Where do you place your tie pin?

Added after publishing:

Dear Debasish Majumder wrote a beautiful poem post to publishing this buzz. An image in the buzz attracted my attention. His use of the word dash prompted me to ask if we should be thinking 0.38% of the time of the past and the remaining).62% of the time of the future (or, vice versa). Between the two opposites where should we focus our attention? I reproduce the image with modification to illustrate my inquiry. Any thoughts on this idea?




#59 Well, then let me see the outcome of the glow dear @Debasish Majumder. Please remember that the glow receives its highest value when it happens in darkness. Brighten the lives of others my friend.

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Debasish Majumder 6/8/2018 · #59

#58 i cannot ignore that you play the pivotal role, triggering me to write poetry with immense potential of your own to ignite me! i glow out of your energy sir! i truly hats off to your sincere endeavor! you are truly great sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee!

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#57 This is the fallacy dear @Debasish Majumder. We call them small, but forget that potential. For example, a match can burn a forest. When we consider small and trivial they are guided against our attention. Yes, as human balloons who are filled with air and make the loudest noises. Size isn't true measure of value. Is this your next poem? I shall not be surprised if it is.

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Debasish Majumder 6/8/2018 · #57

#54 small to our apparent eyes sir @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! when a balloon being inflated by air, it may seem that it is great. but, actually it is small in terms of the pressure being inserted upon it to accommodate the air, not considering the volume of air being inserted on it, which can be acquired more space than it is being forced to accommodate. i guess, who are we to assess what is small? do you think you are small in terms of the buzz you produced? it unleashed a lot of opinion to percolate, which alone work as a testimony how great you are sir!

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#55 The math is very simple> if your husband was to wear a tie pin what would be the best place? I am saying it is o.38% from the neck and from the length of the tie. These golden ratio applies in many other fields in our lives such as veins in our body and the way they branch. I am calling here for the need to cater for small things that make a difference.
By the way I am so happy to see you back commenting. You know how much I value your comments.

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Lisa Vanderburg 6/8/2018 · #55

...why do you always hit me with the numbers, Doctor dear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee??? You KNOW I'm pants at them :)
The final pic is ruined by the dot that follos....ain't that life, eh? But I love the idea of the 'dash' - must check out @Debasish Majumder buzz too.....I'll be back!
Sorry for the tardiness - pesky living needs doing :)

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#53 @Proma 🐝 Nautiyal- thank you dear and for your appreciation of what I describe as "light buzz" By light I mean simple ideas to cope with the fact that people prefer light meals in hot summers. Yes, sometimes small differences make big impacts.

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Proma 🐝 Nautiyal 6/8/2018 · #53

This had never crossed my mind, earlier. It's truly amazing how the Fibonacci numbers and the position of the tie pin tie together. I am sure now I will be scanning everything around me to find this theory delivered in reality in our daily lives. Thank you for the buzz, Sir.
(The tagging feature isn't working, so I couldn't tag you. Hope you find this comment.)

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