Are the beBee waters getting choppy? Time to launch a rescue vessel?
Let me answer my own rhetorical questions: HELL NO!By my count, in the last couple of weeks, there have been a tonne of postings about bullies, trolls, meanies, trumped-up b.s. artists, love bugs, pseudo-intellectual brats, alcoholics, geezers, burnt out former dopers, ersatz writers, and cynical bastards intent only on driving the innocent from the garden of beBee.
Perhaps, since I was adorned with the beBee Ambassador ribbon (for which I am grateful and pleased and proud and enthused), my sensitivity has risen.
But, I don't think so. Because at the same time I have read some wonderful posts and comments. I have enjoyed intellectual stimulation and earnest provocation. I have laughed so hard water came out of my nose. (If memory serves it was @Randy Keho who made that happen.) I have seen a Raging Introvert do a live buzz from the shores of Lake Ontario. I have witnessed emotional vulnerability and genuine compassion. It was my great honour to be supported in a Kickstarter campaign by Bees from America, Canada, Holland, South Africa, Israel, and Spain.
So, then I thought I should do another sort of reality check because I had also come across some controversy about whether the numbers beBee was claiming to pull for writers were reflected in reality. I am so not gonna wade into the relative qualitative and quantitative value of view v. likes v. relevants v. shares v. comments. There's a whole lotta folks on beBee who can do that way better than I can and some day they may even publish something that is meaningful! (That last bit of cynicism was just for you @Aurorasa Sima!)
Anyway, based upon my experience alone here's what I learned:
I first posted to Producer on April 6, 2016. Since that time I have posted 39 times. Nowhere near as prolific as many Bees but who cares. That replicates, sort of, what I would previously have done on LinkedIn - except I joined LinkedIn YEARS ago!
I digress.
Those 39 postings on beBee generated 60,300 views or an average of 1,546 views/post. Now, this pales compares to Alan Geller cranking out 50,000 views for one post but for this old fart that was a pleasing and surprising result.
The postings received 681 relevants for an average of 17.5/post. Again, I suspect this may not hold up against many other Bees but remember - I, at this point, am interested only in what I experienced.
Now, whether or not these numbers in the great world of social media are good, bad or indifferent - the kick the shit out of anything I ever came close to on LinkedIn.
And, while I can't track comments, I will tell you this: the commentary threads and their quality have far surpassed those I ever enjoyed on LI.
AND, so far, no one here has told me to commit an impossible physical act upon myself which did happen on LI!
In summary, beBee works for me.
I view it kind of like the small town in which I grew up. There were some wonderful people and some real arseholes. There were people you loved to talk to, some you tolerated politely, and others you crossed the street to avoid. Some you just didn't get at all and consider them to be either mentally damaged or just too spaced out to engage on this plane.
My efforts to promote beBee will continue and despite concerns about the tone of some of our discourse, I would rather risk slight offense for banal indifference.
Let the waves come on. Let the rescue vessel stand ready but firmly moored.
Let's rock the beBee.
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Comments
Jerry Fletcher
7 years ago #56
don kerr
7 years ago #55
Obviously, I agree. Thanks for making the time to read and comment Migdalia Burgos
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #54
Well, Michael, I didn't know The Bard either (whether he was actually Will, Chris, or Francis), but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express in Stratford, Ontario, along the banks of the Avon River.
Michael D. Davis
7 years ago #53
Yeah yeah I've heard it all before. I was just yankin' yer literary chain. Which really does make me a wurdwanker doesn't it? You think you've got a stigma to overcome? Hey pal you may feel like your riding a dangerous beast into poetic purgatory but I literally live a dozen miles from Shakespeare Central of America. That's the Oregon Shakespearean Festival in Ashland, famous for making Shakespeare and Chautauqua nearly synonymous. Born there actually. Didn't actually know the Bard. Not quite that old... yet.
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #52
Ah, Michael, Michael, to wit: "Oh, East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet..." from The Ballad of East and West by Rudyard Kipling. I hope that by disclosing I've read some Kipling, I have not ridden into the Valley of Death on beBee. But then, if so, tis not ours to question why, tis only ours to do and die. :-)
Michael D. Davis
7 years ago #51
Twain Phil? As in "Mark Twain"? Some of us twains are just tawdry at best! Sorry, just couldn't resist being my normal smart-assed wurdwanker this lazy Sunday afternoon...before all hell breaks loose during the mega-reporting mayhem this coming Tuesday. I hope you're having a pleasant one yourself. - MDD
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #50
Lada 🏡 Prkic
7 years ago #49
Phil, I'm always for a healthy criticism which is a part of the constructive discussion, not for the criticism, which is a goal in itself. That is why I like when someone conducts a healthy discussion on his or her posts. But, like Don said, there are wonderful people and there are a...holes.
don kerr
7 years ago #48
I do agree - mostly. I have harped on and on and on about mutual respect. It is a cornerstone of productive conversation. Where I get a little nervous is with imposed definitions of what that entails. Again, I would hate to see constructive debate and exchange stifled on this platform by restrictive algorithms or policies. We're all grown ups here (most of the time!) and should be able to self police. However, to Javier beBee
don kerr
7 years ago #47
Thank you Franci
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #46
However, Lada, to be fair to what Don is saying, it is not sufficient for some bees not to have critical comments made on their posts; they want ALL critical discussion and exchange to be snuffed out.
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #45
Hiwever, Lada, to be fair to what Don is saying, it is not sufficient for some bees not to have critical comments made on their posts; they want ALL critical discussion and exchange to be snuffed out.
Michael D. Davis
7 years ago #44
Lada 🏡 Prkic
7 years ago #43
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #42
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #41
No, Jared, MY comment on not being able yet to read your comment has +5 likes. So by your standard, my comment should be read. But YOUR comment by your criterion still cannot be read, because it is at zero likes. Can you spell reductio ad absurdum? :-)
Jim Murray
7 years ago #40
Naaa it's a chumps game. They promise you the moon and then give you the Trump treatment.
don kerr
7 years ago #39
why thank you sir
don kerr
7 years ago #38
yup.
don kerr
7 years ago #37
Jim Murray can ya make any money doin' that?
don kerr
7 years ago #36
😜
don kerr
7 years ago #35
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #34
I think a comment on your comment, Jared, will have to wait until we read your comment. Unfortunately, your comment does not meet your own requirement for being read, as it does not yet have the requisite number of pluses, according to your own criterion.
Jim Murray
7 years ago #33
Jim Murray
7 years ago #32
Robert Cormack
7 years ago #31
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
7 years ago #30
Don Kerr it is the beBee redline. We will not accept scammers spammers or people that is disturbing on the platform. We will be expeditious. You can agree or disagree but Respect is a must on beBee.
don kerr
7 years ago #29
Understood and I know you're not dissing the platform.
don kerr
7 years ago #28
Donna-Luisa Eversley although that's a pretty big stretch. An 'arse' is much more accessible!
don kerr
7 years ago #27
We can kick some 'stars' to Donna-Luisa Eversley although that's a pretty big stretch. An 'arse' is much more accessible!
don kerr
7 years ago #26
Javier beBee You have a tough row to hoe on the redline front. One person's redline may be someone else's neutral zone but if we're talking the difference between clearly abusive and foul commentary and simple difference of opinion the point of demarcation becomes more clear. I still hope that we'll come to a point where this can be a self-policing function and not one which requires intervention at a corporate level.
don kerr
7 years ago #25
Michele Williams. Thanks for your commentary.
don kerr
7 years ago #24
Thanks
don kerr
7 years ago #23
Tony Rossi Indeed. Appreciate your perspective.
don kerr
7 years ago #22
A healthy perspective here Praveen Raj Gullepalli
don kerr
7 years ago #21
Apples and oranges is a prudent approach and one which I endorse. I also entirely agree on the vagaries of what constitutes a 'view'. Clearly, many views are just that - a quick click and exit to the next shiny object. Thanks for your always insightful commentary John Vaughan
Mohammed Abdul Jawad
7 years ago #20
Javier Cámara-Rica 🐝🇪🇸
7 years ago #19
don kerr
7 years ago #18
as usual you offer valid and thoughtful perspective Phil
Phil Friedman
7 years ago #17
don kerr
7 years ago #16
don kerr
7 years ago #15
D'accord.
don kerr
7 years ago #14
thanks
Graham🐝 Edwards
7 years ago #13
don kerr
7 years ago #12
merci
don kerr
7 years ago #11
David B. Grinberg
7 years ago #10
Paul Walters
7 years ago #9
Don Kerr bring your swimming gear...it's HOT here!!!!
don kerr
7 years ago #8
I am available for all functions Paul Walters especially now that the snows are threatening.
Kevin Pashuk
7 years ago #7
"Here, here!" they said as they raised their glasses in a toast to the words so eloquently spoken. Nicely said Paul
don kerr
7 years ago #6
Thanks RI Kevin Pashuk
Milos Djukic
7 years ago #5
Paul Walters
7 years ago #4
Kevin Pashuk
7 years ago #3
don kerr
7 years ago #2
don kerr
7 years ago #1