Donna Wood en Butterfly Phoenix, Lifestyle Owner @ Butterfly Phoenix: Emerge Into Your Best Self! • Butterfly Phoenix 3/3/2018 · 2 min de lectura · +800

Guns | Mentally Ill ≠ Mass Shootings


Guns | Mentally Ill ≠ Mass Shootings

For decades, at least since 1992, we have been arguing over which is the catalyst for mass shootings. Is it lack of gun control? Or, access to weapons for people suffering from mental health issues? The answer is neither.

In 2002, the FBI BAU unit (yes, it really exists) released a report on workplace violence and concluded that the root cause of workplace violence is toxic stress.

Whether you support or don't support gun control, you're right.

Whether you support mental health reform in the U.S. or not (in regard to mass shootings) you're right.

It's not necessary to argue this issue, because most of the perpetrators of mass shootings have been people who are suffering from some form of toxic stress in their lives.

Well that makes them mentally ill; right!? Wrong! If you take any human being, from anywhere in the world, from any socio-economic class, from a developed or developing country, at any age, and place them under extreme stress you will trigger the fight or flight survival mechanism.

  • Domestic violence, now known as Intimate Partner Abuse, is an example. In intimate partner abuse, one partner is abusing the other over a long period of time, until the abused partner develops a high level of toxic stress. In many cases, the toxic stress is exacerbated by drug or alcohol abuse, and usually ends with both parties suffering from toxic stress. The Battered Woman legal defense was born out of a case of toxic stress. A partner experiencing toxic stress in a relationship will eventually find themselves at the cross-roads of fight or flight. The outcome is based on environmental factors such as: available assistance in the community and retained relationships with family and friends. If these are in place, then the likelihood of extreme violence is reduced; not eliminated but reduced. If the abused partner sees no other option, then extreme violence is highly likely. (See the case of Francine Hughes; Michigan, (The Burning Bed)).
  • Schools across the country are grappling with the siege bullying has laid on them. Teenagers killing other teenagers. It's not the words themselves that hurt, although the words are the weapons. It's the result of the words: ostracizing,  loneliness, shame, and depression. Unfortunately, even home is not a safe-haven away from the abuse due to what goes on in the schools transferring to social media. The target of all this bullying, who was perfectly sane to start with, begins to experience toxic stress. If we do not start addressing bullying for what it is: peer to peer abuse, we will never resolve this issue. No one wants to believe their child is a bully, because children are a direct reflection of the primary adults in their lives - the influencers: parents, grandparents and other relatives, teachers, coaches, etc. Schools need to focus on identifying toxic stress in children and then taking the extra step to do something about it, before the child reaches fight or flight.
  • Companies and organizations are also engaged in the bullying issue. When employees are left to run amok, abusing each other over positions, promotions, recognition, power and authority, etc., toxic stress takes over the culture of the company and problems ensue. When an employee is targeted by one or more co-workers, the company has a responsibility to themselves and the community to bring down the hammer on such behavior. The workplace, like the schools, are filled with people from varying backgrounds, home lives, and sensitivities. All of whom are perfectly sane to begin with. However, once the bullying starts the workplace has approximately 12 months before tragedy strikes - an employee commits suicide or homicide - it's a roll of the dice in the case of the workplace; either one could happen, depending on the variables involved.

If you search for Toxic Stress on the internet, you will find that most of the results regard the effects on young children, but adults also experience and develop toxic stress over long periods of abuse. Francine Hughes (Wilson) was perfectly sane before her relationship with Mickey.

So, are guns or the mentally ill really the catalyst for mass shootings? No, in both cases. We need to work on reducing the amount of stress children experience in their lives, as well as reducing the potentialities for toxic stress in our own adult lives. Yet, it's easier said than done; right?


Lisa Vanderburg 5/3/2018 · #23

#22 Dang.....your kidding!! How in hell did he steal her Oscar - when I grow up, I'm gonna get a life:)

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Donna Wood 5/3/2018 · #22

#21 @Lisa Vanderburg Yep, you missed the Oscars. The ceremony was held last night. Frances McDormand won Best Actress for Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Then someone stole her trophy and oh my God, he was arrested and whew! She got her trophy back! Exciting times. LOL!!!

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Lisa Vanderburg 5/3/2018 · #21

#20 haha....@Donna Wood, I know - I 'tsk' ceaselessly when others just type the number instead of responding to it! Buzzes like @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee can have a hundred comments! BTW:This is an excellent buzz!!
I'm trying to get me some o-pinions via @Harvey Lloyd - a wealth of knowledge, that man. Like to see Trump taking guns from the mentally ill.....he'd have to give his over first (no offense, mentally ill peeps). I missed the Oscars...??

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Donna Wood 5/3/2018 · #20

#19 @Lisa Vanderburg I missed part of the conversation here. It took me a while to figure out you have to hover the #s to see the previous comment being responded too. As to the incarceration rate in the United States, the issue there is drugs. Approximately 48.6% of all Federal prisoners are those with drug related offenses. We're working on that. (I think. I don't travel in the drug circles.)

POTUS has already made is position clear as mud. Something about foregoing due process and taking guns away from the mentally ill. It was so far out there that I had no clue what he was saying.

The only thing Americans are conforming to is television and who won or lost at the Oscars last night. Ughhh...I'm going to pop over to your Buzz https://www.bebee.com/producer/@lisa-vanderburg/what-to-do-with-the-children and follow the continuing conversation there. Thanks for commenting and keeping the conversation going!

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Lisa Vanderburg 5/3/2018 · #19

#18 Ah-ha my friend! And yet your Police have far more power in the US than the UK. As of May 2017, the incarceration rate in the United States was 666 prisoners per 100,000 U.S. residents (source OECD). The thing I don't get with Americans (being one doesn't help) is their conformity and conservatism [in comparison]; you fall foul of the law in any way and you get what's coming to you. But I know what you're saying @Harvey Lloyd; let's just hope this slippery slope is not something that the current POTUS seeks to address...big trouble if he thinks of it!!

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Harvey Lloyd 5/3/2018 · #18

#17 There are many opinions here and all should be heard. I really am floating the basic tenants of how power is gained and used as rights erode. The nibbling effect has a uncanny ability to turn the heat up on us while we never notice. My diatribe here is merely a warning that the heat is being turned up.

Responsible gun ownership is coming by force, i have no doubt. My question once the door cracks i sense that other rights will also fall. We cant enact any control without a way to enforce it. Search and seizure is a right that will also have to be softened. Free speech will now be indirectly controlled because if you state something that can be construed as a mental illness then you may be subject to red flag criteria.

The slippery slope is never recognized until after we take the step. Step cautiously as we trade freedoms for safety.

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Lisa Vanderburg 5/3/2018 · #17

Excellent comments @Harvey Lloyd; I might not agree with you but I can see their excellence! Being 1/32rd's Blackfoot, I know full well why you guys like guns :)

Funny, over here in the UK they bandy about government being a 'nanny-state', but all that seems to translate to is knifing of you can't get hold of your grand-pappies 12 bore. It's also means doing any mass-killing is an awful lot of work.

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Harvey Lloyd 5/3/2018 · #16

#10 Part 4: The apology. Please accept my apologies as i have carried the discussion much deeper than the author or commentors most likely wished to go.

I also believe strongly in the freedoms and rights of an individual to pursue their happiness. When we begin to touch the absolute rights afforded our citizens we should all get very defensive very quickly. We should not allow group think, drama and poorly presented data to subject us to believing we should give up our rights.

Interestingly the folks who advocate for gun control waved the constitution when discussing the torture of enemy combatants. They wanted us to hold true to who America stands and i agreed. Now they are quite willing to sacrifice the constitution because they don't like something within our social development.

If we are to be true to American absolutes then we must also be willing to accept them when we disagree within outcomes. We seek other discourse to settle our social dilemmas.

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