Joris Plaatstaal en Fractals Forever, Writers, English ... 28/11/2016 · 1 min de lectura · +700

A comment I turned into a post. (very weird, mind you)

A comment I turned into a post. (very weird, mind you) Life is overwhelmingly present in our universe. Maybe infinite.

I think life is a game. You enter it with no knowledge, totally depending on one or more 'advanced' players. You learn to call them 'mommy and/or daddy'.

They can give you a lead or a backlog. Nothing you can do about it. There is no choice, you got to commence the game.

It is the way you play it that defines you.

You enter a game without rules. All is permitted. And at some point it will be ' game over ' .

There is no reward to win.

How you play the game defines you. You have to figure out your own reward.

I sometimes wonder, do we really want to experience freedom? Do we even know, what it is, freedom? Do good (whatever that is) people earn more freedom than bad (whatever that is) people? If good was bound to win and bad was bound to loose, it would be a rule. No freedom. At least, I can not connect freedom to any rule......

It seems a complicated game, life. How can you win, life? But it is a game. I see no living entity change the universe......

We do not set OUR rules. In this game I am completely free to set my rules. So I do, it is the way I play, and it defines me.

And the universe? What do we know? Is it different from us? Or was it born into the game as well?

I know, my idea of freedom is resentful to many. It rules out security, a handbook of how to. We, mankind are free to do whatever we like. Whatever we do, we will have little chance of destroying our playground (universe).

And still, since I seem to be a part of the mankind-team, I would love to see us make it to the end of the game. At some point team up and win.....make to the end of our game. The end of our time, the end of our universe. Will we succeed with 7 billion appointed volunteers? Likely not, but it makes the game interesting.


Max J. Carter Hace 6 d · #16

#15 OK now explain the corporations and elite who use money as as scorecard for the game?

Dictators very much see it a s a game, a game they win through oppression.

In this discussion you and i are irrelevant, unless providing experience to explain how an understanding was achieved.

In order for a game to exist there must be a winner and a loser.

Anyone deemed the loser is being labeled in a degrading fashion.

Games are very serious to those who compete to win.

Dictators are playing a game whether they know it or not.

War is a game.

Anytime one is elevating oneself to a place of authority one is making oneself the king on the chessboard and often views life form this strategic game view.

If one is truly interested in learning and growing, one does not see it as a game, fun yes, a game no. In order for it to be a game there must be competition and winners and losers. There must be a mechanism to declare a victor superior to the opponents.

Anytime one sees one as superior to others one will inflict harm based on the idea of ones superiority in the name of staying king of the proverbial mountain.

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Joris Plaatstaal Hace 6 d · #15

#14 Okay Max.

"Game playing inflicts damage when it is the view looked at for life." That is your truth, but not my truth. And therefore not universal.

Why do you insist I harm people? Why do you think I do not care? Do you confuse 'game' with the idea of 'player'?

I think you do.

How can I explain myself?
Why would I even bother? Now that is a question with no real answer..... Why do I react, why do you react?

I try it anyway.

Dictators do not see life as a game. They take themselves very serious. They have their truth. They do not play with people, they just ignore their existence.
Politicians play a game. They take themselves very serious. They appeal on the truth of the voters. They play with it.
Leaders of big companies take themselves very serious. They play with their power.

Well, the bottom line is that all the people with influence take themselves very serious and play with the rest of us.

They play. Not a game, they are very serious. They just play. Their life is not a game, it is a contest. Or an already won war.

And we seem to all envy them. We take our lives serious too. We want to be like them. And if we are there we would be not like them. No, not us, we would treat the less fortunate with respect. Yeah right.

Many revolutions in the past, despite all the suffering and sacrifice of the mob lead to just a new elite, with no care for the same mob.

I don't play, I have no truth. I don't take mankind or myself serious. Profit or power are not the objectives of my game, dear Max.

Growth is my game. I do not inflict damage. I support those who want to grow. I respect the choice of those who do not want to grow. That is not the same as not caring.

I gave you a little part of me.

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Max J. Carter Hace 7 d · #14

Here is the issues. Game playing inflicts damage when it is the view looked at for life.

It causes one to not care who they hurt or how if they are treating it as a game.

Show me who that is not universally true?

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Joris Plaatstaal Hace 7 d · #12

#11 And in what context should I regard your comment/verdict #5?

----Then you are a narcissist pure and simple and will hurt people and justify it as a game in order to win. Even if you say you only play against you, you will do things to hurt you that will impact other people. . ---- ?

6 times the word "you", I assumed you were addressing me.

That comment is a fine example of categorizing people, based on nothing more than your 'truth'. An opinion about someone you know nothing about. You are not alone, many people do that. I just don't think it makes society a better place. That is my issue.

Debate? (a formal CONTEST in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.)
Exchanging opinions is not a debate in my game. Nevertheless, I am glad I made you feel good about your win.

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Max J. Carter Hace 7 d · #11

#8 You're talking about me and not the issue. In the game of debate that means I have already won.

Didn't need to but you handed it to me anyway so thank you.

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Joris Plaatstaal Hace 7 d · #9

And do not come with one-liners this time. They are too easy.

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Joris Plaatstaal Hace 7 d · #8

#7 Your mind is set. You are not my granddaughter. You seem to have the need to win, although you resent it.

If I were you, I'd be unhappy.

I am not you.

I am peace. Do you think you want a battle with me?

Viewing your profile, in which you are the greatest man alive, I think you do.

I must confess I did not anticipate on the fact that beBee was the same as Facebook.

So be it. You resent the game and go into war? I can play that game too.

You, mate, are the one who needs to win.

Commence the game.

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