Robert Cormack

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Why Ideas Die In the Boardroom.

Why Ideas Die In the Boardroom.

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Groupthink and how it creates dromadaries with unicorn horns—not to mention the Pontiac Aztek.

I rarely get into slugging matches with other bloggers. If opinions are expressed well enough, I’ll consider even the crazier posts like “Trump Is Not An Animal!” I personally think the man’s completely feral, and known to gnaw on women’s hands. Last week, he referred to Obama’s alleged wire-tapping as McCarthyism. McCarthyism is saying things without basis and claiming they’re true. Joe died under the weight of his lies. Trump may die the same way, although he’s pretty happy being feral. He may gnaw on reporters, foreign dignitaries, women and Mike Pence before he’s done.

I only bring this up because I read a post the other day that rankled me — not in a serious way — but since I don’t use “rankled” very often, I decided to respond, since I was feeling a little feral myself or possibly hungry.

A woman named Nina, a CEO, and a good writer, posted an article, talking about today’s technology, it’s usefulness and how the group dynamic, if robust and diversified, will breed a culture of innovation. She also brought up research, showing the importance of women in groups, since they’re far better at “reading verbal and non-verbal clues” than men (no doubt true).

Ideas don’t just come miraculously from those who “have” them.

The “group dynamic” as she pointed out, is where ideas form, and choosing the right people for these groups will result in diverse teams capable of innovative and far-reaching thought. Since I’ve been in think tanks for more years than I care to admit (although I will later on), I can say with some certainty that this isn’t where ideas come from. In fact, it’s often where ideas go to die, which is another form of feralism.

As I mentioned in my response to Nina, meetings today are full of people searching for verbal and non-verbal clues — but not focusing on new ideas. This is no better than someone focusing on their FitBit instead of their breathing or core strength.

“Ideas — true ideas — come from people who HAVE ideas,” I explained, using capitals to show I was rankled or possibly hungry.

Nina was kind enough to get back to me, saying her focus is on creating high performance, diverse teams and doing so consciously and on purpose. “However,” she said, “I am not sure I agree with you on the subject of ideas. Ideas don’t just come miraculously from those who ‘have’ them. Sometimes they emerge precisely because of the diversity, friction and creativity that comes from the group and the context.”

In theory (or meetings) they sound great, but that’s how we got the Pontiac Aztek.

“Nina,” I wrote back, “ideas DO come miraculously from those who ‘have’ them. I’ve been in creative 40 years, and it’s never been the ‘group dynamic’ that created or fostered ideas. As a creative director, I always encouraged people to come to meetings with ideas. Otherwise, it was a lot of people thinking they just needed people around them to be creative.”

I went on to say that “consensus building” creates camels out of greyhounds. In fact, groups have done more to tear apart, water down, or simply destroy good ideas by throwing in their “two cents worth.” Today our airwaves, social media and print are proof that groups don’t create ideas as much as turn them into dromedaries with unicorn horns. In theory (or meetings) they sound great, but that’s how we got the Pontiac Aztek

“Ideas come from people who believe in their ideas,” I said to Nina. “It’s a passion, and I’ve always looked for people ready to fight for something. If you honestly believe ‘ideas don’t just come miraculously from those who have them,’ believe me, Nina, you aren’t getting great ideas.”

Even songs listed as Lennon/McCartney were created individually.

Someone once said “Ideas arrive in the middle of the night.” Keith Richards came up with “Satisfaction” in his sleep. So did Paul McCartney with “Yesterday.” They were both members of legendary groups. But even songs listed as Lennon/McCartney were created individually. Where The Beatles — and George Martin — came in was on the utilization of the idea. Just as groups in general should be good at utilizing ideas.

The trouble begins when groups mistake ideas for utilizing. This was proven back in the eighties with countries like Japan. They were the wonder of modern economies back then, offering employees careers for life and working on the principle of inclusion. Even shop stewards gathered with their people, forming consensus in every part of the operation.

Unfortunately, when the economy turned, as it did in the late eighties, Japanese companies were so busy forming groups, they couldn’t deal with a sustained recession. Presidents and CEOs finally begged for new thinking, even training people to have original thoughts. Only these people couldn’t think outside the group. Needless to say, having the ability to “read vocal and non-vocal clues” made about as much sense as stereos in fishing nets.

The same thing happened in communist countries where individual expression was not only discouraged, many were accused of being intellectual. To this day, steering committees avoid original thinking, lest they find themselves somewhere in Siberia. Russia probably has fewer ideas per capita today than any other country — except North Korea, which has no ideas at all.

The notion that groupthink produces ideas is a will-o’-wisp imitating a “light bulb moment.”

A few years back, one “innovation group” wrote that companies should include “black sheep” in their meetings. “These people will force new ideas and inject creativity,” they said. Some companies did just that, regretting it afterwards. The “groupies” as I like to call them, didn’t like “black sheep” or new ideas and voiced their concerns to management. The “black sheep” were fired and the groupies went back to “consensus building.”

If it’s true that we’re doomed to repeat history if we don’t learn from it, then we might very well be doomed. The notion that “groupthink” produces ideas is a will-o’-wisp imitating a “light bulb moment.” I’m not saying groups aren’t capable of having ideas. But they won’t if the individuals themselves don’t have ideas to begin with.

It’s a myth propagated by “innovation groups,” the ones saying “Ideas don’t just come miraculously from those who ‘have’ them.”

That’s the biggest myth going. Just ask Keith Richards or Paul McCartney (you might be a little late asking Joe McCarthy, though).

Robert Cormack is a freelance copywriter, novelist and blogger. His first novel “You Can Lead a Horse to Water (But You Can’t Make It Scuba Dive)” is available online and at most major bookstores. Check out Yucca Publishing or Skyhorse Press for more details.

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My response to this post and Gert Scholtz's post about Groupthink was too long so I produced some honey. I would love to have your comments. My response to - Avoiding Groupthink: Coming up with Better Team Decisions https://www.bebee.com/producer/@anne-thornley-brown/avoiding-groupthink-coming-up-with-better-team-decisions

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #26

Thanks, Graham\ud83d\udc1d Edwards. As I mentioned to someone earlier, amazon.com has reduced the hardcover price of my book to $3.17 (normally $24.95)#29

Graham🐝 Edwards

7 years ago #25

Nice buzz Robert Cormack... in my experience group think makes things "comfortable" and I don't think real ideas come from a place of comfort. I've just added your book to my reading list... thx

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #24

#26
Thanks, @Harvey Lloyd

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #23

Thanks, #25

Harvey Lloyd

7 years ago #22

I really got a chuckle out of this. Having moved from construction where ideas are generally generated by the individual, i entered the educational community. I thought that construction had kept me in a closet and all the groupthink was so easy, than working individually. The chuckle came from my own coming to grips that group think generally doesn't work. Collaboration works well after the idea is on the table. Collaborating on generating an idea seems to always spiral into "creating camels out of greyhounds". LMAO

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

7 years ago #21

Ugh...Oftentimes, even intellectuals fail to focus on or frame up any idea. Ideas that come anytime from anyone and rightly perceived to fuse with factual information and necessities is all that's worthwhile. Sometimes, during meetings, ideas are swirled, relished and forgotten. It's like be mum or b daring to question!

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #20

#18
You bring up really interesting points, Anne Thornley-Brown. Certainly developing effective groups takes more time than we think, especially if you're trying to form useful interaction between extroverts and introverts. The "normals" do tend to dominate, thinking, as the Republicans do, that there's only one way of doing things, and "might is right." Thanks for your comments.

Devesh 🐝 Bhatt

7 years ago #19

Thanks a lot :)

Ali Anani

7 years ago #18

#18
Great comment dear Anne Thornley-Brown. I shared similar views in my presentation mentioned earlier in one of my comments. Yes, this buzz is worthy of sharing to bring the attention of bees to its practicality and importance.

Ali Anani

7 years ago #17

#19
I think we now know- at least partially- the reason Anne Thornley-Brown

Bill Stankiewicz

7 years ago #16

Best Buzz of the day by @Robert Cormack in Marketing, Marketing and Communications, Business !!
#7
@ali-anani A man after my own heart. I always say they are called "bored" rooms for a reason.
#10
New research is shedding shed more light on the dynamics at play in groups. For examples, introverts can come up with great ideas but they need quiet time and individual "thinking time". With the packed agendas and pressure to do more in less time, this gets lost. If the recommended length for a programme is 3 days, the question is "can you do it in 2". One day programmes are crammed into 1/2 a day and then there is the madness called "2 hour team building". Really? We aren't making instant coffee. Ideas need time to percolate. With rushed agendas, thinking time gets lost. Even if fresh ideas are presented, they get shot down if they are different from how the rest of the group thinks. Often, they aren't even considered as the most extroverted and dominant players talk over the quieter members of the team. A trained facilitator can give the group a reality about realistic timeframes and slow down the process to provide thinking time and ensure that everyone is heard and all ideas considered before they are discarded. Great topic Robert and one that is dear to my heart.

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #13

#9
Thanks, @Ali Anani.

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #12

#8
Thanks Bill Stankiewicz, \ud83d\udc1d Brand Ambassador. I think a lot of us are in agreement (until the groupies decide we're wrong).

Ali Anani

7 years ago #11

#14
:)))))

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #10

#7
Thanks, @Ali Anani, it can get boring at times. Having been a "black sheep" for more years than I'd care to admit, there's always about four to six people who really want me out of the room.

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #9

#6
Quite true, Pascal Derrien. True "groupies" are quite offended by people coming in with ideas. It's like you're back in school "brown-nosing."

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #8

#5
Thanks, @Turatsinz Ivan. If you check out amazon.com, the book (hardcover) is a real bargain.

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #7

#2
Boy, Brian McKenzie, you can really get in trouble not being in favour of "sing-a-longs" these days.

Robert Cormack

7 years ago #6

Thanks, Anne Thornley-Brown. Not a lot of "group organizers" agree with bringing ideas. Somehow it's seen as being "individually-oriented" instead of "group-oriented.#1

Ali Anani

7 years ago #5

Now, time for more serious comment. I enjoyed reading your buzz and I love it too. I have no disagreement at all. I published two years ago one of my most popular presentations and it was about groupthink (assuming it is group think and not group unthink). I concluded the same. https://www.slideshare.net/hudali15/unequal-opposites Proudly sharing your buzz Robert Cormack.

Bill Stankiewicz

7 years ago #4

I agree with you Ali 👍😀

Ali Anani

7 years ago #3

May be we should call it "Boredom Room"!

Pascal Derrien

7 years ago #2

Thats a good one i am sitting on a few non profit boards and its very true that many ideas get shot before they even take off ☺
I always stress this when I facilitate team building or executive retreats.

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