Sara Jacobovici en Out of the Comment Box, beBee in English Owner • Creative Arts Therapies Services 13/11/2016 · 2 min de lectura · +700

Sorry, you can’t blame it on politics or politicians.

Sorry, you can’t blame it on politics or politicians.Image credit: You Tube


This “Out of the Comment Box” buzz is in response to two articles. Thank you to @Deb Lange and @ Irene Hackett for sharing and exchanging. This is the stuff that gives value to our connection and engagement.

I will start with my conclusion first.

Of course there are things which are not in our control @Ian Weinberg and of course we have blind spots OttoScharmer. But the fact that both these writers have put down their perspectives and insights in writing and distributed their articles on social media, is proof that there are many things in our control and we can see beyond our blind spots.

The only blind spot that exists is the internal, in the moment, when taking in information. But because we know there is a blind spot, it is our responsibility to compensate, strategize and adapt. In other words, while our sensory mechanism is made up of blind spots, we are built to make up for that; we can see it all, from all perspectives. What it comes down to is choice and responsibility. Scharmer quotes the German poet Goethe who “put it so eloquently when making Mephistopheles—the embodiment of the evil—say: “I am part of that force which eternally wills evil and eternally works good.” "


We are a part of this dynamic existence we call life, not passive receivers or observers. It is within the tension of what is and isn’t in our control, fighting for our individuality while living in a community and the choices we make, that moves us on our chosen paths.
Sara Jacobovici


"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -  Friedrich Nietzsche

When I was a first year graduate student, I attended Dr. Brooks’ class of developmental psychology. It was the first class of the semester and all the students were there on time and waiting for Dr. Brooks to arrive. After about 10 minutes, he enters the room and without addressing any of us wrote in huge letters across the board M A Z A L. Everyone, including me, quickly began copying these letters down in our notebooks. He turned to us and asked, “When do developmental influences begin to take place?” After a few answers suggested by the students, Dr. Brooks stated, “At the time of conception.” 

He began to list factors beginning with the genetic influences of the biological parents, their individual physical and mental health at the time of conception, the emotional and even financial circumstances under which conception took place. Once conception occurred, he added, questions like what the social environment was like, what emotional supports existed, what the physical environment was like, what experiences the mother went through during the gestation periods. These, and many other questions, were those which Dr. Brooks painstakingly covered. 

Then he discussed the various factors involved during the birth event itself for both mother and child. And so, Dr. Brooks stated, and in spite of all of these factors and all the things that can go “wrong” at anytime, it is amazing that we have so many healthy human beings in the world. He then turned to the board and said that the word he wrote represents the main reason why this is so: Mazal, in Hebrew, means luck. 

The “luck factor”, as he called it, was the most important one to keep in mind when we are learning psychological development. This doctor and professor at an internationally renowned United States teaching hospital felt it necessary to teach us that an immeasurable factor is an important influence on the measurable development of the human psyche.

Winnicott, a pediatrician and psychoanalyst, developed the theoretical concept of a “holding” environment: an environment that allows you to safely feel taken care of, protected, understood, accepted unconditionally, and held in such a way that your consciousness which, at the beginning of human development is unformed, fluid, and changeable, can grow spontaneously and naturally on its own. (Excerpt from The Holding Environment)

The paradox that is created as a result of this theoretical concept is:

In order for an infant to develop a sense of self as independent from others, it is dependent on the other to provide the environment in which to develop this sense.

We are born into a group, or at least in a relationship with another. After that, we carry into our future groups and relationships the experience of our original group or relationship; personally and professionally. In this way, our challenges and needs are the same. We don't need to reinvent the wheel, just adapt it to move us in our current environment. Hopefully, on the right path.





Sara Jacobovici 13/11/2016 · #16

#15 Great reminders @Irene Hackett. Thanks for sharing your point of view. And...the honor is all mine.

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Irene Hackett 13/11/2016 · #15

@Sara Jacobovici, it is always an honor to have a mention in your writing as it is to take part in discussion of your 'out of the comment box' buzzes! I agree we cannot blame the politicians, or anyone else for that matter. The U.S.A. is about 'we the people'. We, each individual, has the responsibility to act according to the demands we are placing on the Government. It is so important that as a nation we purposely connect with one another. Community must be revived in a much bigger and deeper way. This is where I find great value in what you have shared about " a “holding” environment": an environment that allows you to safely feel taken care of, protected, understood, accepted unconditionally, and held in such a way that your consciousness ... can grow spontaneously and naturally on its own." If we live for detached from the community; the group, dare I say-the world, will suffer. As I wrote in comment to @Deb Lange's buzz on this matter, with freedom comes responsibility. We often forget that. This election is forcing us to remember.

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Sara Jacobovici 13/11/2016 · #14

Thank you @Ian Weinberg for the continued exchange and for your link. I would suggest that a very important thread in your work is the "life narrative" you refer to. Stories are both individual and collective. They have a place in history for transmitting information across generations. Culturally, stories have been used to teach the children about who we are and the world around us. And so we internalize stories we hear. In this way our life narrative and story is formed internally. What is an important piece of work is developing the awareness of whose voices narrate different parts of our story and when and how we use our own voice. Not an easy process but definitely worth the effort.

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Sara Jacobovici 13/11/2016 · #13

#11 Thank you @Harvey Lloyd. Your perspective is always appreciated. Thank you as well for your kind and generous words.

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Ian Weinberg 13/11/2016 · #12

@Sara Jacobovici thanks for a valid and thought-provoking contribution to the subject. Based on my intervention experience, I would add that the intrinsic limiting belief bias can be a hard nut to crack ( I actually crack nuts professionally, both literally and figuratively!). It really boils down to the prevailing life narrative. There are varying degrees of receptivity ranging from not even acknowledging that there is a blind-spot through recognizing but not being able to transcend the blind-spot to the other extreme, being able to transcend with appropriate intervention and inspiration. And so my approach has always been to contribute as much value as I can to self, other individuals and to the extended environment in the hope that there's some receptivity and traction. It may be of some interest in this regard, to peruse an earlier post of mine which engaged this subject - see https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ian-weinberg/challenging-limiting-beliefs-20993

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Harvey Lloyd 13/11/2016 · #11

What an engaging post @Sara Jacobovici. I read both of the pieces you linked and was somewhat bewildered by the group think display.

Your statement "tribe vs individual" are where my interests lie. Do we reflect a core set of values in our behavior or do we react to our environment to achieve a certain reflection from our behaviors? This question is the study of many hours by great folks, yet the answer is sometimes elusive within the individual. I like the quote by Friedrich Nietzsche.

It would appear that the election process has demonstrated, on both sides, group think is a powerful force when polarized. Being an individual grants us the opportunity to grow through observation, yet moves us closer or further away from the tribes within our environment. A personal conundrum when we consider our options within social groups.

One of the "brain" shows demonstrated the strength of group think by asking a simple multiple choice question. Instead of giving an answer the subject would have to walk and stand in one of four roped off areas labeled A-D. They placed a group in the wrong answer. A large percentage of the subjects chose the group. Amazingly the few that choose the right answer looked weird standing away from the group. The ones that choose the group stated they didn't want to appear stupid and were willing to fail with the group even though they new it was the wrong answer. A few ignored the group and stood alone.

Your courage to write such a post, was encouraging and engaging. Bravo!

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Sara Jacobovici 13/11/2016 · #10

#9 Beautifully expressed @CityVP Manjit. Thank you.

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CityVP Manjit 13/11/2016 · #9

Luck and blessings are sweet movements in the paradise we can create.

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